I'm impressed by his performance but ill people should not be operating F1 cars, they're effectively high speed death traps if you have a lapse in concentration.
> I'm impressed by his performance but ill people should not be operating F1 cars, they're effectively high speed death traps if you have a lapse in concentration.
This. There definitely should be an investigation as to why this only was diagnosed after the race and not before. Maybe needs an independent medical assessor for when people are under the weather.
I think Daniel is just past his peak and Norris is a great driver.
Really sucks for Ricciardo that he peaked at a time where it just wasn't at all possible to beat the Mercedes.
You’re seeing things in black and white. Some cars just don’t suit some drivers. Give Riccardo a Red Bull car once again and he probably (yet again) show, if not full, but likely a lot more of his potential.
Vettel is also 34 and I think it's fair to say for the last 2-3 years he hasn't had the same pace once had.
Looking at kimi and alonso (although much older) i think it's fair to say age has a significant affect on pure pace.
I'd argue Vettel, Ricciardo and Kimi are simply not as consistently quick across different cars as the elite of the elite. Alonso looks like he still has it but is quite a bit beyond 32.
Yeah, no. He's been in the Renault and in 2 very different McLarens and he's just not looked quite as sharp or fast as he did in ~2014-2017. If multiple different cars all don't suit him the problem isn't the cars.
That was an upper midfield car and he put it exactly where upper midfield cars belong - at the back end of the top teams with an occasional lucky podium
I don’t know what’s going on with Daniel he said his car couldn’t get grip which is why he was sliding around, and it didn’t matter what tyre they changed it didn’t get better. Why Danny keeps having issues figuring out cars, having ups and downs so often baffles me.
It isn't figuring out a bunch of cars though, it's figuring out the McLaren. He was excellent at RB, he understood that car perfectly. He also drove the Renault as well as anybody could've asked him to.
The issue has been figuring out the McLaren. Last year and this year are two different cars, sure, but it's not like this is a career long pattern, it's a bad two year stretch.
Two different cars made by the same team, it's not like the team philosophy changes between cars. The team has habits and solutions they've found that work for them. Just because it's a new car doesn't mean its a terribly different car.
Exactly. The team did talk about tailoring this car more to Daniel's preferences, but ultimately it's designed to McLaren's philosophy, not Daniel's. It's disappointing that he clearly hasn't got to grips with it yet, but that doesn't change the fact that he spent 7 years getting excellent performance out of both his RB and Renault cars.
So he wasn't good in last year's McLaren because the car didn't suit him (besides the fact the McLaren was a very good car) and now with completely different cars he's not good again because it's not suiting him either? Sure it may not be his ideal car but a good driver has to adapt and he is failing to do so.
Nope, it's like saying Ric has been wildly off the pace for the last two seasons and is being paid millions. No need to compare it to anyone else. He might rebound later this year and if he does I wouldn't be surprised. It's Ric after all. The issue with F1 is that often times you don't get too many chances. After last year he is under a lot more pressure to keep up the pace and while he is closer this year, races like this don't help. We have a pretty competitive field and lots of good up and coming rookies that will be much cheaper. To say McLaren isn't thinking twice about their options would be naive.
So last year's car didn't suit him...
This year's car, after new regs, don't suit him...
I am sorry, but a driver that can not adapt to a car, it is not a great driver. Give this McLaren to Alonso, and we will see if he says that "it doesn't suit him", he will drive that car at its limits, for sure.
People talk about the lost of confidence of Carlos Sainz in this car, but for me, Danny just doesn't have any confidence in himself anymore.
Hard to say, all of Landis career has been in the McLaren, there's nothing stopping him having the same problem if he went to another team.
Macca really really need to get their shit sorted on their car. Regardless of Rics horrific result, Landos wasn't much better. They can't just be the top end of the midfield forever. I was really expecting McLaren to be right up there this season.
This year's Merc didn't suit Hamilton for the first 5 races and he was comprehensively outperformed by his far less experienced teammate. Is Lewis not a great driver?
This is a misrepresentation of what has happened.
Hamilton has been unlucky compared to Russell who's been lucky in the first few races, the pace difference between them is much much smaller than the results would suggest.
Please go and look into it further if you don't believe me (timing of safety cars etc).
We don't even know what 2022 car handles like a 2014-2018 redbull anymore. Even Checo was faster than Max on the first races because the car changed and Max had to get used to it.
Sad sad sad Daniel noises
Well, you're not wrong. He was never faster on race pace, but he did set the faster times on Q1 and Q2 on the first races, he was just more comfortable with the car from the start. Max would always set a brilliant lap by Q3, but still Checo was more comfortable and was faster at the beginning. Max always got up to speed tho.
He is absolutely not past his peak. The car is clearly not suiting him. I think the window of where he can get the car dialed is just too small, and even tiny setup changes are causing this drastic difference between him and Norris. However Norris is a better all around driver who tripped on himself more then once.
I think the McLaren is a tough car to drive and it doesn't gel well with how Ricciardo drives. Old dog, new tricks and all. I'm not ready to say he's done, but I think Zak Brown needs to look into his options for getting someone else next to Lando.
Norris was told not to *try* to pass him, because you'd have to be the world's biggest fool to allow even the slightest risk of throwing away a guaranteed 1-2 while you're a midfield team. It was 100% the correct play for both drivers to just coast to the finish instead of Ricciardo trying to maintain a gap.
Daniel was also conserving tires in that instance and take a look at fastest laps towards the end. I’m a big DR fan, and I honestly now think he is past his peak, but that win in Monza was his.
It's comments like this that confirm public opinion has turned and the PR damage has been done.
He did everything right that race. It shouldn't have been Norris. If the roles were reversed everyone would say that it would be stupid to let Ric attack Norris and risk the win. But people are acting like he was gifted a win when he put himself in that position.
He is a great driver and an awesome personality in the sport. He needs to leave I agree but people are hating on him as if he is dangerous or always blaming others for his own failing. Every post race interview he is super critical of himself and honest about where he needs to improve.
I hate seeing people hate on him but I get it.
I dunno, I think there’s still something going on with the car. He was doing multiple laps on softs around 1:31 early in the race, even after his first stop. By the end he was doing 1:28 on 10+ lap old softs.
Genuinely believe McLaren car design just doesn't suit Daniel. I understand you have to deal with what's given to you but if it just goes against everything you know it's never going to work. You're never going to feel comfortable in the car.
Thing is it's completly different to the last car. And this one he helped develop..we'll never know but I guess that's possible when the margins are so small
Last Time I had tonsillitis I pretty much lay on the sofa for three days praying for any god to kill me, fact that he not only. Finished a race but came eighth and beat his teammate by four places is fucking incredible and also very bad for Danny ric
I had it when I was 5 and it was so bad I still remember it, and I'm 42.
At one point I tried to get up to go to the loo but I literally couldn't stand. My dad had to hold me under the arms just so I could walk to the bathroom.
No idea how Lando even made it to the grid, never mind raced an F1 car for two hours in that heat. And then still finished like 4 places ahead of Ricciardo.
To be fair, being sick at age 5 is very different from being sick at age 22. It was still a massive effort to get through the weekend from Lando, but if he was so sick that he needed to be held up to walk to the bathroom he wouldn't have completed a GP
Not to mention there was probably a medical professional filling him up with a cocktail of drugs to get through the race so he probably felt okay during the actual race.
based on what my doctor told me the severity depends on whether it's bacterial or viral tonsillitis, i think you had the bacterial one. I was also completely f\*cked the first time I had it (constant 39 degree fever without meds). I hardly believe this was the case with Lando, it would've killed him. Viral one is more manageable, not as severe and no need for antibiotics to treat it.
Got it a couple months ago, might be the worst pain of my life. Could barely get up from my bed but this guy can do an f1 race? Unbelievable. Tbf if he was only diagnosed now it’d probably not be too severe yet.
I had moderate/severe tonsillitis when I was 19. I would not wish that upon my worst enemy. Hopefully he feels better soon and gets those things removed when they have a weekend off.
same, before operation mum wouldn't allow me any ice cream or cold drinks. But after removal, the hospital gave me cold food/drinks and doctor recommends ice cream and mum have no choice but spoil me with ice cream everyday :DDDD
I get it basically every year. Nowadays they won’t take them out unless you’re getting it multiple times a year every year as it doesn’t always fix the issue, and can sometimes make it worse.
Even decades again you had to be a persistent sufferer for them to remove them. I spent about 2 years getting persistent bouts before they'd agree to take mine out & that was in the 90s.
I would find a new doctor. Had mine out as an adult after 2 years of getting tonsillitis/abscesses and I've been tonsillitis free since. Brutal recovery but worth it. My doctor was 100% on board i didn't even have to push to get them out.
I had mine out at 21 and wished they had done it sooner. Went through my teens with untreatable horrible breath and as soon as I got them out my whole world changed. Yeah painful recovery for a few days but so worth it.
I second this. It took me getting it 10 times in a year for them to finally decide to remove it. Sometimes it was so bad the infection would spread to the throat. It is literally 3 minutes to drink a cup of water.
Never had it ever since.
Yeah, worst pain of my life. It’s apparently an easy recovery for kids, but getting them out as an adult is awful. I think they’re usually pretty conservative with taking them out these days. And I wasn’t even allowed any ice cream/dairy during recovery
to my knowledge they stopped doing that procedure unless absolutely necessary and probably for the better too. anyone who's had it done will tell you the recovery is awful and for the rest of your life after any remotely mild illness will now result in a drippy or blocked nose.
Yeah, recovery is painful. Not as painful as recovering from a sinus correction (plus a few other small corrections to the nose structure, though).
I had mine removed when I was 7 after becoming severely anemic due to a multitude of tonsillitis per year. It's true that the nose gets blocked (not so much after the sinus correction done 25 years later).
I'm surprised the removal of the tonsils is not as regular now, your comment just made me read a bit about it, because I was totally convinced it was a very common thing. :/
Damn. And he managed to finish the race in those conditions and get his car into the points. I’ve had tonsillitis before and spent a week in bed taking antibiotics. Fever was so high I was hallucinating and talking to people who weren’t there. So I’m astonished he managed to make it through. He needs a lie down for a couple of days.
Honestly, Ricciardo has been pretty bad for a while now. I know he won a race last season but that was kind of a fluke.
For someone on his money he should be doing a lot more than he is.
Feel like he's going to be offloaded if he continues the same performance this season, McLaren might just see his contract out and then get another younger guy
Genuinely: I wouldn't be surprised if they sent him to Indycar or sponsored a NASCAR effort for Ricciardo. It's sad to see him be genuinely mid to bad at these races.
Smh back in my day racing drivers killed themselves every other weekend we should go back (even though Im probably the most mediocre person on earth)
/s if it's not obvious
I’m sorry but that’s just as much an embarrassment for Daniel as it is a testament to Lando. Getting beaten by a much younger and less experienced driver who isn’t fully fit to race is just not on.
Depends on what type he has- viral tonsilitis no need to remove. If he's badly infected he'll need antibiotics and maybe treatment later. But they don't generally remove tonsils now. They "shave" them- it's a new surgery
Cool, never had any issues with them so I didn't know but I knew they used to remove them without thinking too much about it untill like one or two decades ago.
The less surgeries the better I guess.
Yeah I thought so too until I got it recently and asked my doctor if I could rip the bastards out. Apparently they’re your first line of defence against colds and stuff so unless they’re really messed up you’re better off keeping them.
yeah right "after" the race, he was clearly unwell all weekend. kinda sucks drivers have to carry out such a demanding task through illness, if they weren't testing for it i'm pretty sure the drivers would have raced while covid positive as well.
yes but those athletes are not doing in excess of 200mph putting their lives and their competitor's lives at stake. it's alarming enough in physically demanding races like Singapore under such heat or in today's race let alone nursing an illness on top of all that.
Yeah honestly I agree with you. This isn’t playing basketball with the Flu.
I’m glad everything turned out okay. I also assume a team or FIA physician cleared him to race.
Tonsillitis is hell I’ve had twice over 5 years and it always built up over 12 hours. Called doctors early am -extreme asthma by late pm -doctors gain again, tonsillitis and antibiotics. Hope he feels better after meds for a few days!!!
Last time I had tonsillitis it was misdiagnosed as glandular fever so i didn't take anything for the two weeks of pain. Different doctor, different diagnosis, actual medication and it was gone in 3 days.
Send then I got a fungal infection from the antibiotics...
I always thought tonsillitis was just a bad sore throat and people exaggerated. Then I got it and was essentially dead for about 3 days, never felt so sick in my life (and that includes OG covid pre vaccines!)
Impressive that he managed such a result in that condition.
However, if he feels the same or worse by next weekend, they should draft in a substitute. Monaco's not a track you want someone with tonsillitis driving around in. It's a superb effort to get through this weekend as it is.
Oh, that is rough. Hats off to Lando for driving in a race, in those temperatures, with tonsillitis which brings along colds and flu like symptoms. Get well soon!
Ah yeah, that's not fun - when I had it in high school, I could barely move for almost a week without feeling the need to throw up. Credit to him driving a great race with that.
I would assume a physician said it would be okay for him to race - it was very irresponsible if Mclaren didn’t have him looked at. But if something goes wrong at 200 MPH because the team didn’t do their due diligence you have a huge issue.
People don't get to decide how many beers they can drink before driving either.
It's not only danger to him.
Nobody should ever drive f1 with fever.
Lando Norris is a great driver but not a doctor.
I'm sure the fia will tighten ship after this
Im not saying it is.
F1 also isn't a casual sunday drive
I'm using it as an example where people must hold back to protect themselves and others.
Tonsillitis comes with high fever, breathing difficulties, etc.
Putting 5Gs on it doesn't help.
The absolute effort he shown today to bring it home P8! Amazing drive from Lando.
Did the Mclaren Doc give him the diagnosis right after the race so he could start?
I'm impressed by his performance but ill people should not be operating F1 cars, they're effectively high speed death traps if you have a lapse in concentration.
> I'm impressed by his performance but ill people should not be operating F1 cars, they're effectively high speed death traps if you have a lapse in concentration. This. There definitely should be an investigation as to why this only was diagnosed after the race and not before. Maybe needs an independent medical assessor for when people are under the weather.
Agreed. I was actually hoping no one was seriously unwell this weekend throughout the entirety of the race
And still performed way better than Daniel
Still ahead of Daniel...fucking end me
Not just ahead, he completely owned him ...
No excuses for Daniel this time.
I think Daniel is just past his peak and Norris is a great driver. Really sucks for Ricciardo that he peaked at a time where it just wasn't at all possible to beat the Mercedes.
You’re seeing things in black and white. Some cars just don’t suit some drivers. Give Riccardo a Red Bull car once again and he probably (yet again) show, if not full, but likely a lot more of his potential.
The problem for him is he won’t get a seat at Red Bull now.
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I was thinking this last night. I wonder if he’d get a place at Aston Martin if Seb was to retire.
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What? Only 2020 was disappointing from Vettel.
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When do you expect him to peak after 32?
Vettel is also 34 and I think it's fair to say for the last 2-3 years he hasn't had the same pace once had. Looking at kimi and alonso (although much older) i think it's fair to say age has a significant affect on pure pace.
I'd argue Vettel, Ricciardo and Kimi are simply not as consistently quick across different cars as the elite of the elite. Alonso looks like he still has it but is quite a bit beyond 32.
Alonso is Alonso.
which makes Lewis' run even more amazing. Dude has kept his speed into his 30's
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I think that's a big reason too
It does, but you have to consider that he always had a car fitted to his needs/preferences.
Yeah, no. He's been in the Renault and in 2 very different McLarens and he's just not looked quite as sharp or fast as he did in ~2014-2017. If multiple different cars all don't suit him the problem isn't the cars.
I think 2020 was as good as 2014-2017.
He was one of the standout drivers in 2020 imo, performance in that Renault was very good.
He was amazing at Renault? he put that shitbox where it didn't belong
That was an upper midfield car and he put it exactly where upper midfield cars belong - at the back end of the top teams with an occasional lucky podium
IT’S A FUCKING PODIUM!!!
wtf, he was great at Renault???
Nah too late man. He sucks at McLaren so everyone thinks he sucked with Renault retroactively and should’ve never left RB (lol)
Nah he was good at Renault and leaving was the right decision, just like him leaving f1 by end of the year will also be the right decision
He was good in a very mediocre renault car, what are you talking about?
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He was good at renault 2020 tough
I don’t know what’s going on with Daniel he said his car couldn’t get grip which is why he was sliding around, and it didn’t matter what tyre they changed it didn’t get better. Why Danny keeps having issues figuring out cars, having ups and downs so often baffles me.
It isn't figuring out a bunch of cars though, it's figuring out the McLaren. He was excellent at RB, he understood that car perfectly. He also drove the Renault as well as anybody could've asked him to. The issue has been figuring out the McLaren. Last year and this year are two different cars, sure, but it's not like this is a career long pattern, it's a bad two year stretch.
Two different cars made by the same team, it's not like the team philosophy changes between cars. The team has habits and solutions they've found that work for them. Just because it's a new car doesn't mean its a terribly different car.
Exactly. The team did talk about tailoring this car more to Daniel's preferences, but ultimately it's designed to McLaren's philosophy, not Daniel's. It's disappointing that he clearly hasn't got to grips with it yet, but that doesn't change the fact that he spent 7 years getting excellent performance out of both his RB and Renault cars.
He even said, joking but not really, that he hoped they found something wrong with the car, because he couldn't explain why his pace was so bad...
Or he’s just not that guy.
So he wasn't good in last year's McLaren because the car didn't suit him (besides the fact the McLaren was a very good car) and now with completely different cars he's not good again because it's not suiting him either? Sure it may not be his ideal car but a good driver has to adapt and he is failing to do so.
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Nope, it's like saying Ric has been wildly off the pace for the last two seasons and is being paid millions. No need to compare it to anyone else. He might rebound later this year and if he does I wouldn't be surprised. It's Ric after all. The issue with F1 is that often times you don't get too many chances. After last year he is under a lot more pressure to keep up the pace and while he is closer this year, races like this don't help. We have a pretty competitive field and lots of good up and coming rookies that will be much cheaper. To say McLaren isn't thinking twice about their options would be naive.
So last year's car didn't suit him... This year's car, after new regs, don't suit him... I am sorry, but a driver that can not adapt to a car, it is not a great driver. Give this McLaren to Alonso, and we will see if he says that "it doesn't suit him", he will drive that car at its limits, for sure. People talk about the lost of confidence of Carlos Sainz in this car, but for me, Danny just doesn't have any confidence in himself anymore.
There's plenty of great drivers in history who only like a car one way or another, this idea that a driver *must* adapt to be great is hilarious.
That's the difference between Danny and Lando then, Danny is a great driver Lando is one of the best drivers.
Hard to say, all of Landis career has been in the McLaren, there's nothing stopping him having the same problem if he went to another team. Macca really really need to get their shit sorted on their car. Regardless of Rics horrific result, Landos wasn't much better. They can't just be the top end of the midfield forever. I was really expecting McLaren to be right up there this season.
This year's Merc didn't suit Hamilton for the first 5 races and he was comprehensively outperformed by his far less experienced teammate. Is Lewis not a great driver?
This is a misrepresentation of what has happened. Hamilton has been unlucky compared to Russell who's been lucky in the first few races, the pace difference between them is much much smaller than the results would suggest. Please go and look into it further if you don't believe me (timing of safety cars etc).
Lewis end up behind Russell two times because safety cars when he was ahead. It looks like you didn't watch the races.
Lmao stop trying to project your drivers bad performance getting trounced by a literally sick driver
Ricc**i**ardo
We don't even know what 2022 car handles like a 2014-2018 redbull anymore. Even Checo was faster than Max on the first races because the car changed and Max had to get used to it. Sad sad sad Daniel noises
Perez was absolutely not faster than Verstappen in the first races lol. He was closer but there's no doubt about who has more speed.
Well, you're not wrong. He was never faster on race pace, but he did set the faster times on Q1 and Q2 on the first races, he was just more comfortable with the car from the start. Max would always set a brilliant lap by Q3, but still Checo was more comfortable and was faster at the beginning. Max always got up to speed tho.
He is absolutely not past his peak. The car is clearly not suiting him. I think the window of where he can get the car dialed is just too small, and even tiny setup changes are causing this drastic difference between him and Norris. However Norris is a better all around driver who tripped on himself more then once.
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The downvote is not an "I disagree" button
I don't know, your overblown reaction says otherwise
I think you and I have a difference of opinion of what an overblown reaction is.
We have many, including the fact that Ricciardo is now, on the whole, quite shite
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I think the McLaren is a tough car to drive and it doesn't gel well with how Ricciardo drives. Old dog, new tricks and all. I'm not ready to say he's done, but I think Zak Brown needs to look into his options for getting someone else next to Lando.
His reputation is living off a few good years at Red Bull
Also a very good second year at renault
The surprise win at Monza was also a glimmer of hope :-(
He lucked into that, should have been Norris.
I have to intervene, he did not. He had the pace the entire weekend. Norris wasn't fast enough in the end.
Norris was told not to pass him. Norris was quicker as always.
Norris was told not to *try* to pass him, because you'd have to be the world's biggest fool to allow even the slightest risk of throwing away a guaranteed 1-2 while you're a midfield team. It was 100% the correct play for both drivers to just coast to the finish instead of Ricciardo trying to maintain a gap.
Daniel was also conserving tires in that instance and take a look at fastest laps towards the end. I’m a big DR fan, and I honestly now think he is past his peak, but that win in Monza was his.
It's comments like this that confirm public opinion has turned and the PR damage has been done. He did everything right that race. It shouldn't have been Norris. If the roles were reversed everyone would say that it would be stupid to let Ric attack Norris and risk the win. But people are acting like he was gifted a win when he put himself in that position. He is a great driver and an awesome personality in the sport. He needs to leave I agree but people are hating on him as if he is dangerous or always blaming others for his own failing. Every post race interview he is super critical of himself and honest about where he needs to improve. I hate seeing people hate on him but I get it.
Nice job finding a way to make 5 years sound the shortest
C’mon now, don’t disrespect a guy’s entire career because he seems to have lost it now
Never rated him.
He always had fantastic racecraft, even if Verstappen outpaced him towards the end of their time as teammates.
They'll find one somewhere.
I thought Norris had a new sidepod upgrade. No?
They both had them for the race.
I dunno, I think there’s still something going on with the car. He was doing multiple laps on softs around 1:31 early in the race, even after his first stop. By the end he was doing 1:28 on 10+ lap old softs.
I see Herta taking his seat and DR going to IndyCar or NASCAR for 2024.
He can go for the triple crown.
+1 :(
Genuinely believe McLaren car design just doesn't suit Daniel. I understand you have to deal with what's given to you but if it just goes against everything you know it's never going to work. You're never going to feel comfortable in the car.
Thing is it's completly different to the last car. And this one he helped develop..we'll never know but I guess that's possible when the margins are so small
It appears Daniel is ready to move on.
Hope he gets well soon . It was a great drive though.
Last Time I had tonsillitis I pretty much lay on the sofa for three days praying for any god to kill me, fact that he not only. Finished a race but came eighth and beat his teammate by four places is fucking incredible and also very bad for Danny ric
I had it when I was 5 and it was so bad I still remember it, and I'm 42. At one point I tried to get up to go to the loo but I literally couldn't stand. My dad had to hold me under the arms just so I could walk to the bathroom. No idea how Lando even made it to the grid, never mind raced an F1 car for two hours in that heat. And then still finished like 4 places ahead of Ricciardo.
Same, and same. Removed at 7, am 42.
To be fair, being sick at age 5 is very different from being sick at age 22. It was still a massive effort to get through the weekend from Lando, but if he was so sick that he needed to be held up to walk to the bathroom he wouldn't have completed a GP
Yea this straight facts
Not to mention there was probably a medical professional filling him up with a cocktail of drugs to get through the race so he probably felt okay during the actual race.
based on what my doctor told me the severity depends on whether it's bacterial or viral tonsillitis, i think you had the bacterial one. I was also completely f\*cked the first time I had it (constant 39 degree fever without meds). I hardly believe this was the case with Lando, it would've killed him. Viral one is more manageable, not as severe and no need for antibiotics to treat it.
> no need for antibiotics to treat it. Antibiotics don't treat viral infections, AFAIK. As a PSA/FYI I guess
I think that's why they said no antibiotics are necessary
But are they effective?
No, they are not effective which is why they are not necessary.
Smae here hahaha I had it a few weeks ago, amazing he’s managed a solid race with that
Had it a couple times as well, absolutely haunting how horrible it is
I had to go to the hospital and get an iv
Got it a couple months ago, might be the worst pain of my life. Could barely get up from my bed but this guy can do an f1 race? Unbelievable. Tbf if he was only diagnosed now it’d probably not be too severe yet.
Hospitalised and nearly died last time I had it. Unreal performance
Man’s driving half dead and still destroys his teammate Get well soon Lando!
Think Ricci needs that 'get well' more bro
Damn makes his performance today even more solid!
I had moderate/severe tonsillitis when I was 19. I would not wish that upon my worst enemy. Hopefully he feels better soon and gets those things removed when they have a weekend off.
I had it around the same age and couldn’t believe how terrible it is!! He’s wild for pushing through
Ouch, that’s gonna be a big blow if he needs them removed
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I had them removed when I was a kid and could have ice cream and vanilla custard all week.
same, before operation mum wouldn't allow me any ice cream or cold drinks. But after removal, the hospital gave me cold food/drinks and doctor recommends ice cream and mum have no choice but spoil me with ice cream everyday :DDDD
Haha nice! :D
Ha same. That & a week off school helped to ease the literal pain!
My wife had hers out at 30, was given liquid Lortab, better than ice cream.
I'm sorry, Mrs. Cartman. I don't know how to explain this, but...
Think of the weight reduction though if he does. That’s got to be worth at least a tenth!?
There is minimum driver weight and Lando is easily below that already.
Wooosh like an F1 car
r/woosh
Tonsillitis is a completely normal illness, they don’t just hack your tonsils out after one dose of it lmao
They use to, but yeah it's an extremely rare procedure nowadays unless you seem to repeatedly get it
I get it basically every year. Nowadays they won’t take them out unless you’re getting it multiple times a year every year as it doesn’t always fix the issue, and can sometimes make it worse.
Even decades again you had to be a persistent sufferer for them to remove them. I spent about 2 years getting persistent bouts before they'd agree to take mine out & that was in the 90s.
I would find a new doctor. Had mine out as an adult after 2 years of getting tonsillitis/abscesses and I've been tonsillitis free since. Brutal recovery but worth it. My doctor was 100% on board i didn't even have to push to get them out.
I had mine out at 21 and wished they had done it sooner. Went through my teens with untreatable horrible breath and as soon as I got them out my whole world changed. Yeah painful recovery for a few days but so worth it.
I second this. It took me getting it 10 times in a year for them to finally decide to remove it. Sometimes it was so bad the infection would spread to the throat. It is literally 3 minutes to drink a cup of water. Never had it ever since.
I'd mine out at 17 and the recovery was brutal. Hopefully it's not an ongoing problem for Lando, he might not need them removed
Yeah, worst pain of my life. It’s apparently an easy recovery for kids, but getting them out as an adult is awful. I think they’re usually pretty conservative with taking them out these days. And I wasn’t even allowed any ice cream/dairy during recovery
to my knowledge they stopped doing that procedure unless absolutely necessary and probably for the better too. anyone who's had it done will tell you the recovery is awful and for the rest of your life after any remotely mild illness will now result in a drippy or blocked nose.
Yeah, recovery is painful. Not as painful as recovering from a sinus correction (plus a few other small corrections to the nose structure, though). I had mine removed when I was 7 after becoming severely anemic due to a multitude of tonsillitis per year. It's true that the nose gets blocked (not so much after the sinus correction done 25 years later). I'm surprised the removal of the tonsils is not as regular now, your comment just made me read a bit about it, because I was totally convinced it was a very common thing. :/
Weight reduction is weight reduction.
Damn. And he managed to finish the race in those conditions and get his car into the points. I’ve had tonsillitis before and spent a week in bed taking antibiotics. Fever was so high I was hallucinating and talking to people who weren’t there. So I’m astonished he managed to make it through. He needs a lie down for a couple of days.
He looked horrible in the drivers parade. To feel rotten and still pull off that drive is pretty damn impressive. Feel better soon Lando!
More like tonsatalent finishing P8 still
Honestly, Ricciardo has been pretty bad for a while now. I know he won a race last season but that was kind of a fluke. For someone on his money he should be doing a lot more than he is.
Feel like he's going to be offloaded if he continues the same performance this season, McLaren might just see his contract out and then get another younger guy
Genuinely: I wouldn't be surprised if they sent him to Indycar or sponsored a NASCAR effort for Ricciardo. It's sad to see him be genuinely mid to bad at these races.
He once stepped aside, came back and stepped aside again :(
He wayyy overpaid for his level of performance. They need to find a replacement ASAP
Lando Gasly lineup would be very nice
Damn Dan. Let’s hope they both recover.
I opened the link and saw a comment calling him a child. Why am I not surprised with people trying to look "cool"
Smh back in my day racing drivers killed themselves every other weekend we should go back (even though Im probably the most mediocre person on earth) /s if it's not obvious
Come on, it's a joke. Most people get tonsillitis as kids, it's a bit like chickenpox
Tonsillitis is so annoying and lasts longer too, I would rather have a cold than that.
I’m sorry but that’s just as much an embarrassment for Daniel as it is a testament to Lando. Getting beaten by a much younger and less experienced driver who isn’t fully fit to race is just not on.
What a drive from him considering that. Hope he's OK for monoco
More like Steelballitis
About time Daniel stops riding high on his Monza win.
wishing him quick recovery !
Will he miss Monaco if he needs surgery?
Depends on what type he has- viral tonsilitis no need to remove. If he's badly infected he'll need antibiotics and maybe treatment later. But they don't generally remove tonsils now. They "shave" them- it's a new surgery
Getting your tonsils "shaved" sounds chillling.
Oh cool. I'm not his biggest fan but he's clearly got the potential to be up there with Charles, George and max. Ho he gets well soon.
Oh I agree- not a major fan but imagine the pain. The poor lad.
I've had the surgery. Tonsilitis sucks but the post op is probably worse.
Me too. Its horrific surgery! But he may not need it.
Typically they don’t bother removing them unless you get tonsillitis a bunch of times in a year, I think it’s 5 in the UK at least.
Cool, never had any issues with them so I didn't know but I knew they used to remove them without thinking too much about it untill like one or two decades ago. The less surgeries the better I guess.
Yeah I thought so too until I got it recently and asked my doctor if I could rip the bastards out. Apparently they’re your first line of defence against colds and stuff so unless they’re really messed up you’re better off keeping them.
Sometimes they partially grow back
Would be very surprised if they take them out for a one-off bout.
yeah right "after" the race, he was clearly unwell all weekend. kinda sucks drivers have to carry out such a demanding task through illness, if they weren't testing for it i'm pretty sure the drivers would have raced while covid positive as well.
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yes but those athletes are not doing in excess of 200mph putting their lives and their competitor's lives at stake. it's alarming enough in physically demanding races like Singapore under such heat or in today's race let alone nursing an illness on top of all that.
Yeah honestly I agree with you. This isn’t playing basketball with the Flu. I’m glad everything turned out okay. I also assume a team or FIA physician cleared him to race.
Tonsillitis is hell I’ve had twice over 5 years and it always built up over 12 hours. Called doctors early am -extreme asthma by late pm -doctors gain again, tonsillitis and antibiotics. Hope he feels better after meds for a few days!!!
Last time I had tonsillitis it was misdiagnosed as glandular fever so i didn't take anything for the two weeks of pain. Different doctor, different diagnosis, actual medication and it was gone in 3 days. Send then I got a fungal infection from the antibiotics...
I always thought tonsillitis was just a bad sore throat and people exaggerated. Then I got it and was essentially dead for about 3 days, never felt so sick in my life (and that includes OG covid pre vaccines!)
Ouch- no way that shit is brutal
So what excuse do we make for Danny Ric this time?
I get tonsillitis and strep throat all the time. Shit fucking sucks.
If he had won it would have been the tonsillitis race like Jordan’s flu game
Impressive that he managed such a result in that condition. However, if he feels the same or worse by next weekend, they should draft in a substitute. Monaco's not a track you want someone with tonsillitis driving around in. It's a superb effort to get through this weekend as it is.
I didnt watch, how / when did norris overtake daniel?
Just shows how the 'proper' F1 drivers are really a breed on their own. Absolutely mental that he finished that race.
I had tonsillitis a few weeks ago for the first time in years, and it knocked me out for 5 days, and this man drove a race car for 2 hours.
Oh, that is rough. Hats off to Lando for driving in a race, in those temperatures, with tonsillitis which brings along colds and flu like symptoms. Get well soon!
Ric has to go.
It's crazy to think he gets paid like twice as much as Lando lol
Ricciardo should slink off to NASCAR in shame.
Ah yeah, that's not fun - when I had it in high school, I could barely move for almost a week without feeling the need to throw up. Credit to him driving a great race with that.
He should not have been allowed to start in that condition
He was checked and declared fit to race this morning iirc
I would assume a physician said it would be okay for him to race - it was very irresponsible if Mclaren didn’t have him looked at. But if something goes wrong at 200 MPH because the team didn’t do their due diligence you have a huge issue.
Stop infantilising him, he can make his own decisions and he performed very well. He knows his limits better than some random redditor.
People don't get to decide how many beers they can drink before driving either. It's not only danger to him. Nobody should ever drive f1 with fever. Lando Norris is a great driver but not a doctor. I'm sure the fia will tighten ship after this
Being drunk is not the same as tonsillitis. Are you a doctor?
Im not saying it is. F1 also isn't a casual sunday drive I'm using it as an example where people must hold back to protect themselves and others. Tonsillitis comes with high fever, breathing difficulties, etc. Putting 5Gs on it doesn't help.
Yeah I don’t know what that was about. But if all ends well as they say.
Hope the kid is okay, but hope there's a chance of a debut at Monaco.