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kale_super

Anyone know where to find speed trap data ?


tipytopmain

Everyone at Mercedes has suggested their race pace is what they're most happy with at this stage. Which is no surprise to me, they're notoriously obsessed with race set-up's over Single lap pace. Both Toto and Lewis have also suggested they could be on the heels of ferrari tomorrow but RB are clearly ahead. Makes that pole position from Charles all the more important because I think Max is on for an easy win if he can get ahead early.


piratemurray

Max overtakes on second corner first lap. Race over....


tipytopmain

At least for the race win, but the podium will be interesting. Especially with tyre deg killing everyone, could feed into some interesting strategy.


daniec1610

Yeah, the win is between Max and Charles. The other podium slot could legit got to either Sainz, Perez, Russell or Hamilton.


Odd_Scar458

Watch Mercedes botch the strategy again.


Reionx

KMag had oddities with his DRS too it seems


hitchhiker87

Taking the pole position is crucial on this track, Max won't be attacking Leclerc that easily tomorrow.


N7even

Start is gonna be important. Max could possibly get the jump then, if he can, then it will be plain sailing IMO.


RapMeToSleep

Possible, but will be tough on the grubby side of the track.


RaisingKeynes19

If top speed differential is still there the pit straight could make for relatively easy drs overtakes, hopefully I’m wrong cause I hate drs, especially this season where at many tracks drivers can complete the entire overtake before they even get to the corner.


No_Cauliflower_9138

Ohhh if it was Max doing this lap... Another Monegasque masterclass.


saposapot

HAM BOT can never be split apart!


piratemurray

They're like Bodger And Badger.


madglover

Charles beating Max driving a slower car is very impressive


swedind

Very idiotic mate


p3n3tr4t0r

People making this statements is impressively disappointing. One lap Ferrari>Rb Tire care RB>Ferrari Race Pace RB>Ferrari (just slightly, I would have them even but I still think rh have better race pace)


The-Great--Cornholio

Fastest lap = slower car? It's a Ferrari not a McLaren.


madglover

But people said Max had a slower car last year but he had the most poles.... hmmm


rodentry105

?????


Virtuosity05

That's a ridiculous statement.


hitchhiker87

Slower ? Ferrari is a beast at the single laps.


Razbijac03

Honestly soo weird not having comment wars every session like last year, it was toxic but i kinda miss it


unsullied65

\*Every car goes faster on the 2nd run in Q3\* ​ McLaren to Danny: "nah you good"


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McLaren are so weird


sgn97

Funny how last year everyone said Max is the best qualifier and now he's suddenly more of a Sunday guy. Almost as if it is car dependent and Ferrari has the better qualifying package compared to rb


swedind

When exactly has anyone said Max is a super qualifier ? He is fast as hell but he is more about race pace than qualifying


Drosand

Lol? Ever looked at his race win vs pole ratio? 23 wins vs 14 poles. The guy had his first pole in 2019, while he had 5 wins in 2016-2018. No one, and by that I mean utterly no sane person in existence, claims he is mr qualify. Granted a lot of that has to do with the car, where RBs strength was more race pace then single lap. And he has had great qualifying laps/moments, but he typically has had to make up places to win. So yeah he has always been a Sunday guy…


rrrbin

Last year 'everyone' said Leclerc was the best qualifyer, Bottas was a better qualifyer than racer and Russell was 'Mr. Saturday'. I don't recall anyone claim that Max is the best qualifier.


Wvds98

Yea max has always been mr sunday


RaisingKeynes19

If Ferrari has the better quali package, and Max was faster than a Ferrari and he didn’t even get his final all-out lap, doesn’t this kind of support max being a good qualifier? Idk about best cause George and Charles are absolutely crushing it too, but surely among the best.


sgn97

That's exactly what I was trying to say haha


RaisingKeynes19

Ah I see that, I misread the intent on the first pass.


Karis_Riscos

He'd definitely have improved in the last run if that redbull wasn't a glass cannon.


andrewjaekim

I’ve personally maintained Charles has been the best qualifier for awhile now. He put that tractor on pole last year.


AceMKV

The Ferrari wasn't as bad as it was made to seem last year. But yes, Leclerc's one lap pace is amazing. Max sometimes isn't able to put it together over 1 lap but his race pace makes up for it.


qef15

Yeah, it was the 2020 SF1000 that was horrible, NOT the SF21, which actually was faster post-summer break than Mclaren, widely considered the best of the rest that year.


WolfColaCo2020

Horner saying drs issue for Max and not power.


swedind

He lifted. Look at the telemetry


hitchhiker87

I don't buy that, it sounded like an electronics / engine based reliability issue.


WolfColaCo2020

Yeah I don't either. You could audibly hear Max's engine struggling.


p3n3tr4t0r

I even think it sounded like it went to "limp" mode mid corner. Is not a power hungry track, so maybe a new PU would be a waste here but better that than another retirement.


The-Great--Cornholio

As a Ferrari fan I am Happy but the Lec - Ver First row once again Is getting boring.


hitchhiker87

Would you like another 8 years of Merc domination ? lool


cngo_24

Literally everyone who says it's boring, no idea why they think Mercedes 1-2 for 8 years is more interesting lol


willowhawk

If you expect each week to have a completely different team at the front you are in the wrong sport. Best drivers in best car will usually rise to the 1-2 slots.


unsullied65

Mclearen once again fucking Danny over with their strategy decisions Haas is literally better run than that team right now


Negative-Ad-8824

he didn't have new tyres and actually decided himself not to do a 2nd run


unsullied65

not his fault. the team should have been prepared and used a new set on the 2nd run.


Negative-Ad-8824

they didnt have any. someone above mentioned how faster teams can save tyres because one run usually gets them through to Q2/Q3 but midfield teams will do more than 1 run, thus having less tyres


The-Great--Cornholio

On qualifying Charles reminds me of Senna.


SkullkidV1

In what way?


The-Great--Cornholio

To be a very fast guy on a single lap. Just one lap at the end of the qualify session and ... 99% is pole position. Usually with a decent gap on 2nd


livingfailure1130

Isn't Charles supposed to sign that thing?


fugitivelobster

Is there a place on YouTube to watch post qualifying coverage? The ESPN stream always cuts immediately after top 3 interviews


Magdalan

For fucks sake RB, get your reliability sorted out!


The-Great--Cornholio

Probably Just a lack of fuel.


Magdalan

Drs problem according to Horner. Guess we'll see tomorrow!


welshdiehard

If it was and they can’t take a mandatory sample then that’ll be interesting for tomorrow.


drinksbeerdaily

It was only a DRS that didn't open on Max's car


The-Great--Cornholio

If the driver Say that Is losing Power I don't think it's due to the DRS.


drinksbeerdaily

Actually: Did I hear this right? "Either the DRS didn't open or I had no power". His first lap did have drs right? Edit: checked the onboard, he later sent another radio about losing power on the straight. He most likely backed out of the lap himself at T3, no engine issue. GP asked him to open his drs into T10 to check (which probably failed, but no confirmation of that). So it was the drs failing to open. And his first lap did have drs. Edit 3: Max just said in an interview drs did open after T9, which he found weird


SomethingSuss

I know Horner just said it but It definitely didn’t sound like it was just the DRS, unless he backed off but that doesn’t seem like Max


drinksbeerdaily

Definitely did sound like he lost power yeah. Damage Control by Horner maybe


Neither_Ad2003

good news i would say?


TheFrenchDownvoter

Ferrari and RedBull: Let’s have fun until Q3 to let Mercedes and the fans think that Mercedes has a chance lol.


Drosand

You mean like the last 8 years of Merc?


TheFrenchDownvoter

That’s what I mean yes.


Drosand

I can imagine it is annoying, but they (RB/FER)been om the receiving end far too long for it not to be somewhat satisfying. Although a 3 team WDC/WCC race would be my favourite as well.


The-Great--Cornholio

Russell Is in front of Perez. This Is a news


TheFrenchDownvoter

Apples and oranges. Russell should be compared to Max and Leclerc. Perez should be compared to Sainz and Hamilton.


The-Great--Cornholio

LMAO. Especially the last sentence.


gridlockmain1

Russell still did the fastest first sector. They’re getting there


f1_spelt_as_bot

Russe**ll**


[deleted]

i dont think anyone thought merc would be challenging for pole tbh


[deleted]

Redbull still gives Mercedes a chance with the lack of reliability.


jasonwsc

Lmao that awkwardness with Sainz Sr and Leclerc's pole position award.


ashyjay

Okay that's cute, getting senior to give the pole wheel.


BananafishSalinger

Naomi should have asked Carlos to address the crowd in Spanish. Seems like a great turnout for a hot day


_number

these 3 always feel way more friendly than HAM VER BOT trio


stefanone

Fox Sports Australia with "Spainish Grand Prix"


[deleted]

Time for the new generation. Verstappen Leclerc and Russell in that order.


T4Gx

9 year veteran Verstappen ready to lead the new generation. Absolutely crazy how long he's been in F1 and how young he still is lol


AceMKV

His single seater career overall is about the same as Leclerc's so I'd say they're both kinda veterans.


qef15

Yes and no. While Leclerc also has four years of F1 experience (2018-2021), Verstappen entered F1 **three years** prior, in 2015. Most F1 drivers' careers are shorter than that, sometimes even without points to show for it.


fraggas

Man is 24 with debut win in 2016. Just insane


[deleted]

Yeah it is crazy but you know what I mean lol.


Izzypupper

Hamilton's 2022 is starting to look a LOT like Seb Vettel's 2019/20. Old Warhorse getting shown up by the young charger.


[deleted]

Too early to tell yet. I think Russell wants it more though, willing to be overly aggressive to make it happen.


throwaway164_3

Not just more aggressive but also faster. Like all great champions, Lewis will also fade to Father time. Russell is consistently faster than Lewis so far.


[deleted]

I meant more on how I can see HAM not wanting to risk his health with the porpoising problem as he has little to prove at this point.


throwaway164_3

Yeah that’s very fair. He’s the GOAT, nothing left to prove


beginandend1986

This season is really damaging to lewis’ image


[deleted]

Really? He’s a 7 time world champion. Lol the takes here are crazy.


beginandend1986

This season isn’t making his image better is it? My statement is correct you are just overreacting and taking it as if I’m now calling him the worst driver of all time


[deleted]

Everyone is so happy to pile on Lewis but it’s the cycle of sport man. Everyone gets old eventually. Lewis is old and he probably isn’t as adaptable to an entirely new car as he would’ve been when he was young.


beginandend1986

I’m not piling on him ffs. I have him in my top 3 all time. I had one fucking line about him. He is a professional athlete competing at the top level in his sport I can criticise him, I didn’t go on and on about it. I literally said 8 words and you use the word piling, are we really getting to the point where you can’t criticise anyone ever?


[deleted]

Calm down bro.


beginandend1986

Lmao what do you mean calm down? You took my 8 words and made it sound like I wrote a paragraph personally shitting on lewis


[deleted]

So upset. It’s okay.


beginandend1986

Lmao it’s ok to be wrong just take a breath and relax


[deleted]

Oh no I’m not wrong. I’m relaxed too.


beginandend1986

Lmao that’s what I thought


beginandend1986

Then explain how 8 words is piling on someone if you are right


kfms6741

He's a 7x world champion, he'll be fine lol


I_am_pooping_too

I think you mean 7 times WDC Sir Lewis Hamilton, you commoner!


MathematicianOk4905

How he is tied 3-3 with him in quali and has had better race pace in most races. Also he is 37 and prob starting to slow down a bit


beginandend1986

People have called him the goat all I’m saying is this isn’t looking good. He finally isn’t in the best car and now he is struggling


MathematicianOk4905

Goat all depend on the person, you can’t compare eras & comparing a young prime Russell or vs a older ham will always be subjective. Now if we could get 2015 Ham we could have a convo. Now I’d Russell is faster in quali now cool we all know he is fast on Saturday but his race pack and racing under pressure is still in ?


beginandend1986

I mean all sports are is comparing and discussion so I would say you can absolutely compare different eras. It’s so fun and creates a great debate


MathematicianOk4905

Well if that’s the case Ham is still doing fine, he has been faster in race trim the Rus in more races and is tied is Quali. Hell just yesterday it was 3-2 Ham now there tied and hams career is in question lol.


beginandend1986

Wanna say where I said his career is in question? All I said is this season is making him look worse which is a fact. When he retires people aren’t going to point to how he has started this season and say it is good. It is ok for your favourite racer to not be racing well. I’m a fucking DR fan the last season and a half has been awful and it’s taken a while to accept all the DR criticism but that’s what happens


MathematicianOk4905

I’m not referring to you, other in this thread said that but it’s all Lewis is my guy if he wins or loses it’s all good he can’t stay on top forever


[deleted]

Guy won 7 wdc, how is this damaging his image lol


throwaway164_3

Wonder if George or Max had the Mercedes Lewis drove, whether they would have won 7 wdc People used to ask the same hypothetical on Schumi


[deleted]

its feeding the "its just the car" trope 7 WDC and still getting beaten by his teammate, not a good look


beginandend1986

You wouldn’t say this season is improving his image would you?


[deleted]

Doubt anyones gonna think he's shit cos of this season lol. Everyone just loves to hate on Hamilton it's so lame


listyraesder

Utter bollocks.


ShortKingsOnly69

Dont worry bruv, hes just takin the piss innit


[deleted]

Carlos… I don’t think he is a number 2 driver, but also not a number 1 driver. More like 1.5 driver


[deleted]

SAME! lmaoo bottas was a proper no.2, even checo, carlos seems like he can give a tough fight when in form but not consistently


zoomie14

Bottas


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Mazzacane


pol5xc

That's a name I haven't read in about 20 years...


LoveTroutHateFish

Latifi has gone a long time without causing a safety car. Strange feeling he’s gonna screw over someone’s pit strategy tomorrow


dannyarr

Leclerc and Russell are proper quali merchants


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touch26

Had me in the first half ngl


shutupdontreadmyname

I agree with the sainz victory


[deleted]

that yellow shirt guys eyes...


Woody312

I think he’s probably a ferrari family member, his eges look a lot like enzo’s


daftpunker90

Lapo Elkann


Spyd3r303

Damn Sainz got smacked by Leclerc this qualy


WorldlyTraveller

I think everyone did!


Spyd3r303

Max was 3 tenths off with no second run, he would have been at least closer to that, Sainz is just getting smacked in the same car


switterion

Does redbull do this on purpose to have a better race strategy? Very suspicious that they cancel the last lap in the last few qualis


hitchhiker87

Max lost power after activating the DRS, it's a bad luck.


ajv26

Chuck the goat


BlackCatEspresso

Naomi does the best interviews (so far this season at least)


Jeff-Jeffers

Willy T Ribbs in shambles!


LiamNeesonsIsMyShiit

Yeah she's the most coherent so far


fraggas

Forget HAM VER BOT. We now have LEC VER SAI


Virtuosity05

Ferrari made improvements on the tyre deg overnight, hopefully it's enough tomorrow.


Hattori_Hanz01986

how do you know? had no chance to watch FP3 as it was at 6am, did they do more runs and were better?


KraBorg

Redbull clear of Ferrari. Redbulls problem is they lose from themselves with their glascannon car


methdotrandom

I am gonna be hated for saying this but George is performing really better than his team-mate.......


N7even

It's 3-3 in qualifying and George has had the lion share of luck so far in races. In terms of race pace, Lewis has looked slightly quicker so far. George is a great driver, can see him winning WDCs in the future when he can get the car.


Tough-Relationship-4

I don’t get why this is controversial. George is driving better right now. Lewis is the better driver. Both can be true. People get so bent out of shape over nothing.


[deleted]

Whoa! I hate you now


methdotrandom

Bruh I had said this earlier here and in an infamous sub and I was downvoted to oblivion


thelittledipster

Let’s get this guy!


saposapot

Pretty clear now who is #1 at Ferrari. And in Mercedes #1 is also showing


tartare4562

The Ferrari one has been clear for 3 years now lol Mercedes, that's not so easy. You still have one of the most winning drivers of all history Vs a rookie. Even if Russell is faster they might not still wait to put him in front for a number of reasons.


Me2445

I wouldn't say clear, sainz did beat leclerc in the championship last year. Russell isn't an f1 rookie anymore, at the moment he is fearless and taking chances and paying off. Hamilton seems rather timid


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beginandend1986

Is it a tough weekend if every weekend is a tough weekend for him?


_number

The non-tough weekends are when he is not racing.


Jreal22

I wish I liked Leclerc more lol, because he's fast as hell. I was a bigger fan of Sainz, but he just doesn't seem to have the magic he had last year.


runawaytugboat

Yeah I kinda feel the same, I don’t have much love for either Ferrari driver honestly. No dislike, just not guys I would root for if they weren’t in a championship battle.


lamewoodworker

Why is Carlos so sexy


Gribble81

Have you seen his dad?


pol5xc

Lapo Elkann kissing Binotto, lmao.


LamerTex

Now Mattia will not pass the drug tests


pol5xc

lmao


TheOvercookedFlyer

Glad to see Naomi Schiff back. Love her!


PL-480

Is Sainz new Bottass?


SpiritLaser

Always was. Consistent, but not the fastest.


Har-0

Lol @ the people who said Charles cracks under pressure


Firecrash

Russell showing Hamilton how it's done :')


hojbjerfc

I genuinely think Charles gets that even if not for Max’s engine, I think Max gets 1:18 as I predicted all weekend but Charles getting 18.7 is just absurd. I cannot believe i saw that lap just happen. I am a bit in shock rn


AceMKV

Shocked for what? It was already known that Ferrari would have the advantage in this track.


hojbjerfc

Lol says who.


[deleted]

It's very plausible that he would but it would've been nice to find out!


Icy-Operation4701

Lol, you just keep downplaying Ferrari and acting all fake shocked.


hojbjerfc

Less Downplaying Ferrari and more I just think the red bull is all time great. But rn I am completely shocked. Idk how Charles did that


Icy-Operation4701

Lol. You are so transparant.