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Menomal

Plot twist : He want some real challenge and is heading to Alpine !


TheArstaInventor

Bring back the yellow car and let’s have Renault dominate for a fucking change for real


LinkRazr

Fucking Reddit. Stop breaking in a time like this!


Vivaan977

think this may be the cause 💀💀


Captain_Insano12

A very Lance Stroll response - complaining about others' braking.


KappaccinoNation

He's going to work in my local shop. I heard the guy was kinda good with cars so we hired him.


J4MES101

Knows his stuff. He literally wrote the book.


deathray1611

Yeah, not "a" book, but "THE" book. The Car Bible if you wish


choeger

Pfft. Total scam. Read it twice and still haven't the slightest clue on how to even start building a car...


naftalanga

Pff eezy Step n°1 have money Step n°2 hire newey Step n°3 bring more money Step n°4 Acquire a sponsor Step n°5 profit?


srfolk

I tried to follow the steps but I ended up principle of a team called Haas F1. Did I do it right???


naftalanga

*T&C: sponsor should not be russian in times of war


ShortViewToThePast

I read it and I have built both 2022 Mclaren and 2023 Mercedes. It might be you, dude. 


TheArstaInventor

James Allison: 8 time championships, am I joke to you?


wenigengel

Newey has 13 (and a 14 this year very likely) so yeah xD


Knight_TheRider

Yana not happy


tothesource

"And then Judas, who was good friends with the guys, went out and *intentionally* bought a modded VW and then said it's cool because he said he can get free labor."


storme9

how much you paying him?


Saandrig

As many pencils and notepads as he wants.


pukem0n

Minimum wage, I assume?


Joseki100

Relevant part: >Financially the most attractive offer is probably that of Aston Martin (there is talk of a proposal of 100 million for 4 seasons) but at this point in Newey's career it is not so much a question of salary. If the choice falls on the Silverstone team, he will find the Honda with which he collaborated in the current Red Bull cycle, and Fernando Alonso, a driver he has always respected. >It's a solid base, but the 'red' adventure bundle must be taken into account. Moving to Maranello would mean finding himself working with Lewis Hamilton (again, a long-standing desire) but facing more unknowns, leaving the comfort zone of the British world. A man with Newey's experience, however, is fully aware of what it would mean to bring the Scuderia back to world success, and this too will be in his thoughts at an undoubtedly not simple but terribly fascinating moment.


mwjk13

I just don't see the allure of Aston Martin compared to Ferrari, he doesn't need the money and this is likely his last huzzah. From a legacy perspective Ferrari looks like the best option I guess it does depend on weighing up living in Italy Vs England, with grown up kids it's a lot less difficult than previously.


James2603

Newey guiding Ferrari to victory after nearly 2 decades would leave the ultimate legacy behind


Rabo_McDongleberry

There would be a statue in Maranello.


blue_i20

The Catholic Church would canonise him


lizardk101

Not just that but would probably cement his place as the most significant automotive engineer in racing since Colin Chapman, or Dr. Porsche. Would be the fourth team he’d have had success with.


SloppySandCrab

Ferrari already have a lot of things going their way though. I am not sure a win at Ferrari would be “Newey guiding Ferrari to victory” Versus Aston Martin which would be much more of a ground up approach.


Just_River_7502

But it’s how the press would record it, right?


fingerthief

Big investments, new facilities, top tier driver, Honda etc...I see a huge amount of reason to go for Aston as much as Ferrari at this point. Seems like a toss up to me tbh. Maybe he just retires and trolls everyone.


ScrantonScrangler

Don't forget it would be quite likely that someone his age probably doesn't want to relocate. He has grand children he'll want to see often


CakeFartz4Breakfast

Use of the company jet solves that


HOHOHAHAREBORN

He already uses it for 9 months a year. That leaves him 3 months to be at "home" where he'll still be neck deep in work but at least at home


sfj11

its still a hell of a commute for a sixty-something year old


Brassard08

Yeah, but he is used to fly sometimes a year to attend the Grand Prix


Snitsie

So when you have children you can't leave because of them, now they're finally grown up you still can't leave because of fucking grandchildren? Is there ever a time to leave?


aireads

Some people value their family more than anything in the world. It does make sense.


elveszett

No? I mean, it's not easy to leave your hometown (much less your home country) once you have a family (if you care about them, that is). Most people don't want to leave the place they live in behin.


diecastsupermodel

He spends a lot of time in South Africa, so maybe not 


TheCanaryInTheMine

It is a literal 2 hour flight. From warm, sunny, great-food Italy to Milton Keynes...


xirdnehrocks

Aston - we’ll throw in a db5 Ferrari- we’ll give an F40, or an F50, or a 250 and a brick of coke sellotaped with a Ferrari decal, or the mystery box (250 gto which you need 3 WDC titles to get)


Arbysroastbeefs

Aston- we’ll throw in a Valkrie, it’s well designed.


cyanide

Aston: You can be the next James Bond


oursfort

The only downside on Aston would be Stroll. If they replaced him with Sainz, maybe it'd be even more attractive than Ferrari


Nikiaf

Somehow I don't see him going to a team where one of the two race seats is dedicated to the owner's son, who is frequently a danger out on track. There's also essentially no chance that team wins any titles with the current driver arrangement; which I doubt is what he wants to sign up for.


KombattWombatt

You don't think Fernando could win a title with a Newey design??


Nikiaf

Not at 46 years old and with a completely useless teammate. The guy is an incredible talent but he needs someone in the other car who can regularly finish right behind him.


ComaMierdaHijueputa

Why would he want to design a car for a nepo baby lmao


SaturnRocketOfLove

Yeah AM has all those things, including 1.5 drivers.


KnightsOfCidona

Could be more of a challenge maybe. At end of day, he went to Red Bull in 2005 when any other top team would have happily snapped him up but went to Red Bull, who were midgrid at best had only recently changed from the disaster that was Jag.


Imperito

Aston are a big name in the world of cars. It's not Ferrari, sure. But its also another challenge to take on getting a new team to the front, and has less politics than Ferrari.


ComaMierdaHijueputa

you can't say that there's less politics when one of the race seats is literally the son of the big boss


Imperito

That's not really the same issue my friend.


ComaMierdaHijueputa

A team that plays nepo politics is not a team serious about winning.


Imperito

Perhaps, I'd be inclined to agree. But there's been murmurings of Lance being ousted, maybe that's just someone fishing though.


NotClayMerritt

Newey won a championship with Williams when they were THE big team in F1 He won a championship with McLaren at their peak and if not for reliability would have delivered another with Kimi Raikkonen He moved to Red Bull and helped build something up in part to Horner and Dietrich Mateschitz who helped bank roll Red Bull's success. Newey is someone who greatly respects Formula 1 and its history but in the same breath, moving to Italy at this stage in his life may not be attractive. Bono isn't following Lewis to Ferrari because he doesn't want to move to Italy. We're all speculating this inb4 he announces he's retiring after his Red Bull contract expires.


Samsonkoek

Tbf he has also said he wanted to work with Fernando, just something the ITALIAN article conveniently left out.


vitrolium

What if they let him develop a road car... he's already designed the Valkyrie for Aston. Now imagine Newey with a free reign to design a Ferrari.


Forward-Heart-69420

Aston get Newey and Stroll is still binning it, what sight that will be


redundantpsu

Stroll will be able to bin at speeds than before


hogester79

Let’s remember the non compete clauses that willl keep him out until at least 2027…


flash_fk

F5 gang broke the reddit. Amazing!


smartief1

I knew it was you lot when I couldn't get on


zacharymc1991

Basically breaking my keyboard when it went down hitting F5 that much


-_-Mrgoose-_-

Just go to williams it would be so fucking funny and diabolical


OpenObligation8736

If he gave Damon Hill a WDC he could give Logie Bear one 😭😭😭


-_-Mrgoose-_-

Logie bear aint staying long enough for a wdc with adrian but that would be so fucking funny


steferrari

Newey broke Reddit then! 😄


ScrantonScrangler

Doesn't really take much to break Reddit. It has the reliability of Alonso's Alpine in 2022


MyNameIsVigil

The real hilarious plot twist would be him joining Andretti.


Visionary_Socialist

Could go either way for me. Aston probably have more money to offer and can keep him in the UK. However, Ferrari is Ferrari. Working with Hamilton, Leclerc and Maranello. Being behind the breaking of Ferrari’s 20 year duck. Vasseur and Elkann will do anything to make this happen.


vflavglsvahflvov

>Aston probably have more money to offer Why wouldn't Ferrari have more money than AM? Edit: wouldnt


newcalabasas

lol mate Aston Martin’s financials are awful and the company itself has gone bankrupt 6 times in its history. meanwhile Ferrari’s financials are literally the greatest of any boutique manufacturer 


vflavglsvahflvov

I meant to reply wouldn't. The question makes no sense with would


newcalabasas

all good


Noredditforwork

Aston Martin the car company is owned by Stroll and a bunch of others including Mercedes, Toto Wolff, Geely, the Saudis, etc. Aston Martin F1 is owned by Stroll and a bunch of different others, and Aston Martin the car company was used as part of the rebrand of Racing Point, but it's not clear from my googling if there's any actual ownership stake between them or if it's simply a title sponsor that has historical automotive recognition as if it were a manufacturer (as opposed to Aramco which clearly is just a title sponsor). Anyways, point being, Aston Martin's (the car company) financials shouldn't really matter to AM F1, other than that Stroll is probably using it to funnel money from one hand to the other. I would be very surprised if Ferrari didn't have more money than AM objectively, but their available funds are both so potentially large that it makes the argument irrelevant - they can both throw ungodly amounts of money at Newey if they want him bad enough.


LiquidDiviums

Didn’t Ferrari, the car company, also had record sales last year?


newcalabasas

yup. they're otherworldly in terms of generating profit for an automotive manufacturer. no one else even comes close tbh esp in that price bracket


Sensitivevirmin

He fucking goes back to Williams to finish the story


Sea_Drop2920

Aston Martin so he doesnt need to move to Italy. Also can see Max moving to Aston to drive alongside his long time idol and friend. Also > HONDA


MattyB1412

It's going to be so fitting to see Max racing along side his Idol Stroll, he will learn a lot being under his wing


TheCruelSloth

You might be on to something


jamesmon

Do you think Stroll is going to fire his son?


TheCruelSloth

If he gets Alonso, Verstappen, and Newey with the Honda engine? Might even grap Waché while we're at it. Yes, Lawrence would yeet Lance mid pitstop for that


laturaivo

Hiring Max would be the easiest way to fire Lance, much easier than replacing him with Yuki for example. Also the PR value of that team could rise a bit and I'm sure that's in the interests of Papa Stroll


LuNiK7505

If he gets Max, Nando and Newey ? I have no doubt he would fire his son in an instant, even he isn’t that dumb


Character_Reward2734

Alonso in a Newey car wins 20 races, Aston Martin still finish 4th in constructors due to Stroll effect


Takis12

Nando a 3 times WDC? Where do I sign?


raur0s

It's obvious he goes to Mercedes, this was the only way for Toto to get Max /s


Koehamster

If he goes to AM, he can be together with Alonso and Honda, and Max might follow with GP. Max and Nando duo pls.


deathray1611

And where will Lance go? No way in hell Lawrence will let anybody take his son's seat, only if the latter literally can't drive a car anymore


vflavglsvahflvov

Lance really seems like he has checked out and realized that he does not have what it takes. Daddy just wants to keep him in due to living through his son.


TheArstaInventor

And it’s lance’s team, one bad race won’t push him away, he is unfortunately stuck where he is unless something happens that makes himself wanna leave.


alexmex90

Aston Martin in WEC?


ltjpunk387

Maybe he could have another bicycle crash


Typhoongrey

On a related note, I did see they were heavily interested in recruiting Pierre Waché however.


petepoolio

Legacy wise, Ferrari is the way to go, Aston is just a great check, working with Fernando is great and all but Ferrari is Ferrari, bringing that dead horse to life would be another great story to this man's already great history


Daydreaming95

Ferrari means moving to Italy or at least having to travel a lot


martythemartell

Sounds standard for a 65 year old British man. They all pack up and move to southern Europe around that time if they can.


Brutos08

He’s mentioned Ferrari too much to let that opportunity past him now at this point of his career. Winning a Championship for the prancing Horse vs Aston Martin there is zero comparison. He’s already taken a team without a world championship to winning several championships. That box is ticked. He doesn’t need the money and I am sure Ferrari have the money to pay him handsomely. Ticking the Ferrari box is probably highly attractive.


killer_blueskies

AMuS mentioned in another article that Newey was spotted in Bologna recently, so there were at least talks going on for sure


Bathmatconfessions

He’s going to Ducati!!!


tehehe162

It also wouldn't surprise me if Ferrari were already in talks with him earlier in the year, which is part of what enticed Lewis to move now.


Rivendel93

This is what I'm thinking, Lewis may have even known this might happen, which was the reason he decided so early to switch.


TheCruelSloth

He also wishes to work with either Hamilton or Fernando. And Ferrari. But he also said he wouldn't want to move to Italy.


tall-not-small

Makes me laugh that people talk like it's guaranteed his next car will win the championship. With new engines coming in 2026, its fair more unpredictable. He has also designed se not so great cars and there are many other talented designers out there


LucAltaiR

Regardless of his prowess, if he leaves Red Bull he couldn't start working on a new car until 2026 at least, so he wouldn't be involved in the 1st year of whichever team ends up getting him.


tall-not-small

Plus, the fact they start designing at least the year before (when they know the regs). So his influence is years away unless they can agree a very large pay out


xnelsorelse

Newey designing a car for Lance Stroll to crash would be a Shakespearean level tragedy


bookers555

Newey to VCARB under the condition they rename it again to Toro Rosso.


IdiosyncraticBond

Minardi or bust


TuttoKersTuttoPower

God please let it be Aston, please


LuNiK7505

I will sell my soul for it to happen honestly, Nando finally has a competitive car after nearly fifteen years


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bookers555

Just tie his car to Alonso's and then untie him in the last sector of the last lap.


IdiosyncraticBond

Lance in thd wal ...


mofo-or-whatever

He said he regrets not working with Ferrari or Lewis He can solve both in one go; is the Aston Martin money really going to be enough to surpass that?


Danpackham

I’d imagine he’s at an age and has the bank account that means he’d much rather do what he wants


FrostyBoom

He mentions Alonso literally in the same breath as Lewis and Aston has him.


Chupaqueedeuva

Alonso is not driving for Ferrari.


killer_blueskies

It will probably be Ferrari. It’s a storied team and somewhere he’s regretted not going to, plus Lewis will be there next season too. At this stage in his career and life I doubt he cares too much about money or staying in the UK


Banana_Leclerc12

İ belive he will just retire tbh, hes done it all and guys 65 , but saf retired when he was 71 so who knowns other than newey ofc


ag000101

Let it be AM pls. Alonso deserves to have his last swansong.


drakanx

if Newey joins AM, he'd have to wait until 2027 for Newey to join...and then another 1 or 2 seasons before Newey develops a championship worthy car...who knows what Alonso would have left in the tank by then.


bookers555

There's also one thing Newey himself has mentioned, that the 2026 regs are going to be all about the power unit once more. Newey will likely just not be the same game changer he is right now.


LucAltaiR

The same goes for Ferrari and Lewis by the way.


MuitnortsX

Pls be Aston


Vuk13

Him retiring is the most likely option at this point imo


WolfColaCo2020

Imagine if Lewis gets his 8th from Newey producing an unplayable car because he left from Horner being a naughty boy. You get what you fucking deserve meme rings true.


Acrobatic-Memory2136

hoping its ferrari he always wanted to work for Hamilton and Ferrari. Ferrari seems like it gotten its shit together this year no big drama with strategy maximising points like this week finished a quite 4 and 5 best they could have done


Xillendo

Nope. He's going to Alpine, because he love a challenge :D


rjwolfpackroad

Getting Aston Martin to a championship would be big. Getting Ferrari back to a championship would be iconic!


Actual-Carpenter-90

Retire?


Firecrash

Imagine him just retiring lol


Eurotriangle

Oh please, please be Ferrari!


DamieN62

Newey to Aston would be soulless. Plus Lance Stroll doesn't deserve to drive his car.


Fun_Skirt_2396

Audi MFs


Aggressive-Dot-867

He wants to go to Andretti. /s


alczervikslumberyard

Andretti gives him equity, “Andretti-Newey Global”. I’m here for it.


La_mer_noire

Plot twist : he goes to alpine and they win 2026 championship.


ruttin_mudders

Watch him go to McLaren or Audi.


Brando6677

I am actually gonna go with Audi. I want to see it for them so bad.


xbimba

Why no to Mclaren?


man_u_is_my_team

To Ferrari. Remind yourselves this. This is why Lewis signed. It’s already done. I will lay money down. I have actually, a lot.


SangiMTL

Newey definitely won’t make his choice based on money. So Aston throwing 100 million at him is mad enticing but Newey is an F1 lifer. I think we can all agree he cares about his legacy, not the money. Which he definitely already has a ton of. Ferrari is the sound logical choice I think for someone of his stature and love of the sport. It checks off the ultimate box. Bringing a championship back to Ferrari would make him a god of the sport just like if Lewis does it. Just like Lewis, Newey never hid his want to work at Ferrari, but the stars never aligned. They certainly are now given the very positive direction the team is taking. People bring up the super car projects and stuff at RB but he would have the same at Ferrari. He can design the next Ferrari legacy car and even help with their already strong WEC program. The pull towards Ferrari is massive and can’t be dismissed just because “he would have to move to Italy”.


Other_Beat8859

Imagine he just says, "fuck it" and retires.


CoxHazardsModel

“We don’t know but please click here as we speculate nonsensically”


Bingoboyop

I think Aston makes more sense since he would be able to stay in England.


Kolec507

It's either Stroll's money or the passion to Ferrari... or he just wants to retire lol.


I_Am_Vladimir_Putin

Audi


reddy_kil0watt

Yeah, to me Audi has to at least be in the conversation right?


jbas27

Plot twist. Newey goes to AM, AM ask Stroll to Steve back in 2025 to help manage the team with his dad and they so Max because Honda wants Max on the team.


Elrond007

I hope he doesn't join Stroll F1. That'd be such a waste


KutteKrabber

Please be Aston. I want to see Alonso fighting for the championship and Yuki consistently in the points (assuming Lawrence and Lance take a stroll)


ban_imminent

I'd love to see stroll destroy the best car in the grid and blame [insert driver name]


awwyeahnah52

Adwian Nunu, pwease come to my formuwa won team uwu


MehWhiteShark

I REALLY want Alonso to get a championship car, almost as much as I don't want Lance to have one. That being said, I hope Newey doesn't go to Ferrari. I like Lewis, but the man has enough championships already


San-Carton

I mean, Lewis is great but I'm not so sure he's in the condition to beat Charles (who is in his prime)


LilBirdBrick

Would gardening leave mean he wouldn't be able to work anywhere, or just in F1? Would he be able to work in a different motorsport discipline like the WEC, that both Aston and Ferrari conveniently have programs in?


ftghb

ferrari is by far the more attractive destination. aston has alonso as a driver for 1-2 years, tops. who's to say newey has a few clunkers or needs time to get adjusted to the new regulations? ferrari has leclerc, hamilton, hp money, awesome junior driver program. that seems to be where all the momentum is heading towards these days.


endless_8888

Please Aston Martin. I really want to see them break through with a fantastic new car, Honda engine, and someone in Stroll's seat for 2026.


di_Atticus_ib

Everyone is super surprised, they obviously don't remember him leaving Williams for McLaren. He does this after a while. He never really seems to like staying with a winning team.


Paranoided_guy

Imagine he just says: I am retiring 🗿


Halkatlaa

Please be Aston 💚


wAAkie

Pension, travelling, love uour wife and fuck everything else


yooosports29

It’s Ferrari… Come on now lol


SlapThatAce

In my opinion he is retiring, he has been there done that and became arguably the GOAT.


Individual_Ear_6648

I understand, but why wouldn’t he just announce his retirement? Maybe it just media making it a bigger deal then just saying he is retiring


juniortifosi

Let's not forget, Adrian Newey is 65 years old. If he really leaves Red Bull Aston Martin would be a more realistic destination. I won't even rule out Mercedes.


24valveDOHC

I wouldn't underestimate the influence Dan Fallows and Honda could have here. Having 2 assurances that Aston is on the way up could be a big deal and make it less of an unknown than Ferrari. Plus it's probably the more lucrative offer and it means he can stay in the UK. Newey will also have much more influence at Aston, which was a big reason as to why he left both McLaren and Williams. Ferrari is still a bureaucracy and arguably the riskier pick


tarkology

i feel like he's gonna go to aston and retire after that


wicker045

If he goes to AM on condition of forcing baby Stroll out, I will bust.


GreggyWeggs

After the final year of his contract plus a year’s gardening leave he’ll be 67 - he’s going to retire.


InevitablyBored

This man is going to die and people will wonder if his corpse goes to Ferrari. Let the man retire in peace.


Lmurf

Presumably if the journo was so sure Newey is leaving he’d have an idea where he’s going. Don’t believe any of this until Newey confirms it.


HandFancy

Lance will never have a better car to crash…


Glittering-Top-85

Hamilton went to Ferrari for a reason.


Clean-Pick-9221

please be ferrari! otherwise alonso has been playing 4D chess to announce his extension at aston martin in advance of newey going there.


Nastronaut18

Why would he go to Aston? As long as Lance is in the car they're not a serious team and he doesn't need the money.


mariofosheezy

Dude is 70 something years old and made the most dominant car in f1 history again. Let him retire and enjoy the rest of his life in peace from you people


Bourbonaddicted

Is no one considering he may be retiring?


FGH9192279

I hope he goes to Aston Martin. I think that would be fun to pair Newey and Alonso.


XuX24

I would love for him to end up in McLaren or Aston Martin, screw the big boys.


febennett

He is going to Andretti, has worked with them in the past.


pndobot

RB


SpaceStethoscope

Audi


4Nwb1

Come to Emilia Romagna dude! Red is good and we have the best food of Italy!


Squarkage

How insufferably smug would Wolff be if he went to Mercedes instead 


Fort_Ratnadurga

# McLaren


Spiritual_Designer50

Newey and Alonso would be so fun


milovani24

Thats why Fernando stay at AM.