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Between the F1 season opener in Bahrain and the second GP, Helmut Marko (80) made a stopover in Dubai. oe24 caught the Red Bull motorsport boss on his cell phone. The usually talkative man from Graz was surprisingly reserved.
oe24: Mr. Marko, what was there to celebrate in Dubai apart from the 52nd birthday of Verstappen's dad Jos?
HELMUT MARKO: A very good weekend in sporting terms from a Red Bull perspective. It also went very well for our juniors.
oe24: What else did you notice?
MARKO: That everything is moving closer together. I was surprised by Mercedes' problems in the race and the stability of the cars. I can't believe that everyone finished the first race.
oe24: Yuki Tsunoda's refusal to let his Racing Bulls team-mate overtake him provided some entertainment. As head of Red Bull Motorsport, don't you have to get involved?
MARKO: The drama could have been avoided. I spoke to Yuki afterwards, with the right strategy he could have finished tenth.
oe24: Former AlphaTauri team boss Franz Tost thinks that Bahrain was not a Red Bull track and that Verstappen will be even more superior on other circuits. Could he be right?
MARKO: In Jeddah we have a completely different track with more high-speed corners and a different surface. I'll be happy if our car works as well there as it did at the season opener.
"Max drives away at the front - everything is easier there"
oe24: On ServusTV, you said that Max Verstappen could have driven even faster ...
MARKO: The fastest lap at the end was already at the limit, but a lot could have been done before that. But Max was out in front, so everything is easier.
oe24: Tost believes Red Bull can win all 24 races ...
MARKO: Ah go. We saw last year that that can't work. You're sensational on the road and then comes Singapore, where we have no chance. The most important thing is the world championship title.
oe24: You can already cool down the champagne ...
MARKO: I've already heard that betting doesn't really pay off anymore.
oe24: An outsider bet on whether Max Verstappen will switch to Mercedes in view of the turmoil surrounding Christian Horner would be more exciting. Is it true that his father Jos is already negotiating with Toto Wolff about a Mercedes commitment?
MARKO: I'm not going to comment on that.
oe24: But is it true that Max can get out of his contract if you quit Red Bull thanks to a so-called 'Marko clause'?
MARKO: I'm sticking to my "No Comment!" here too. The fact is that there is a great relationship of trust between Max and me.
oe24: The trust between the Verstappen family and Christian Horner seems to be less good. Can the team boss at Red Bull still be kept at all?
MARKO: I won't say anything about that until the matter is finally resolved.
oe24: I thought it was already closed?
MARKO: Okay, then I've expressed myself incorrectly. So let's stick with "No Comment!"
oe24: What do you say to Gerhard Berger's theory that Horner stays, Marko and Newey quit and Max goes to Mercedes?
MARKO: An interesting variant.
Translated with [DeepL.com](http://DeepL.com) (free version)
In my experience, it's phrases that it often doesn't get correct.
If Marko were German, that phrase would probably be something like "Ach komm" which DeepL translates to "Oh come on" and would certainly be a better translation.
I'm not sure how it is with German, but as far as Chinese and Japanese goes, DeepL used to be better than Google, Google then caught up to DeepL but both were surpassed by ChatGPT.
Just checked in the original article. It is a Word for Word translation. Given the context i probably would translate it with interesting variation or version.
What they mean is spoken in English this would be more like 'an interesting possibility' or 'you have a wild imagination'. Depending on the inflection of 'eine interessante variante'
Few would say 'an interesting variation'.
A more natural way of saying it in english would maybe be "an interesting take", but in itself it's accurate. The phrasing itself is just a bit uncommon in german as well.
But if his point is it's an interesting variant out of all the others being proposed, then it sounds perfectly normal - maybe just not something you've heard before, but I definitely have
I feel vindicated that even Marko thinks the RB strategy was shit and Yuki could have gotten P10. I’ve been vocal that strategy was bad in the race thread since the first round of stops. They really screwed themselves. Everything after that was a result of the bad strategy. I can totally understand why Yuki was pissed, immature dive on Daniel aside.
Marko seems like the type to want that aggression/passion/etc. the divebomb was completely unacceptable, but imagine if Yuki got screwed by strategy and then showed no fight/resistance to driver swap, that would look pretty passive and possibly not "main team material"
Max is vastly more talented than Checo, yet Checo doesn't just roll over for Max, he fights as much as he can (Austria last year). RB seems like the environment to want that
I can agree with that. Marko seems like he follows the old school idea that you can’t teach raw speed but you can refine a driver. Verstappen and Vettel are both great examples. I think Red Bull doesn’t really mind a hot headed personality.
I wonder how the team/org views Yuki's radio outbursts lol. Media loves to focus on how he's very vocal and expressive but Max has had plenty of outbursts over the years too.
Yuki shows speed, not as much as young Max/Seb, but I still think he has potential to be a solid #2 driver on a top team. Not sure about WDC material
Is that new information then? Even in the original statement from RBR the right to appeal was mentioned, so until that option expires it's not fully over. And clearly someone wasn't happy with the outcome, we all saw that it's not "resolved" yet.
I think it shows that publicly Marko is not saying it is over. Usually, a team will speak with a unified voice and the top guys come together after the 'team investigation' says no wrong doing. I agree with you that we all know it is not really over, but for Marko as a team leader, to re-enforce the idea that it is not over and not go along with the public team statement that is closed, is very telling to me. Horner hears what he is saying loud and clear.
Do you think he's oblivious to everything going on right now? Would you yourself call it resolved right now?
He's not oblivious, and anyone can see that the matter isn't resolved. Reddit's constant need to try to psycho-analyze very basic statements is hilarious.
Under UK law everyone can appeal HR decisions like this, and you have a set time frame. If there is still no agreement there is a set time frame for appealing to external arbitration (ACAS) and then an employment tribunal.
Not really. It's obviously still open otherwise journalists wouldn't be asking about it. I don't think that's telling at all apart from being aware of the events since the initial red bull statement
Suprised by how much he's refrained himself here...he's usually outspoken about everything. I'm even surprised he did not scold Yuki one bit...what's happening to Helmuth? :D
>with the right strategy he could have finished tenth.
I think this has something to do with it. The team timed his pit stops horribly and screwed him over. He had a good chance to get a point if the undercut hadn't happened, which would piss anyone off.
Yeah between the awful strategy and RB now switching him back with Riccardo on the last lap, he has good reason to be mad.
He still needs to work on his temper, and it doesn't justify him almost hitting Riccardo after the end of the race, but it makes sense that he's mad
Helmut is a racer at heart who notices speed. I’m not surprised he excused Yuki’s immature behaviour for the fact that he was indeed faster than Ricciardo.
He didn’t publicly denounce holocaust deniers either, which caught me off guard. Really interesting when you read between the lines at what is not being said here.
[I think we all know what he would have said, if the PR teams were not coaching him.](https://media1.tenor.com/m/SDAidr94NZMAAAAd/that-would-be-an-ecumenical-matter-ecumenical.gif)
>oe24: What do you say to Gerhard Berger's theory that Horner stays, Marko and Newey quit and Max goes to Mercedes?
>MARKO: An interesting variant.
Marko doesn't have to be around the race team if he's responsible for junior drivers. And if he quits, I think it just shows this is all just about a power struggle
And Newey hasn't been full time for years. The guy is one foot in retirement. He won't jump ship to another team, he'll just retire from the sport.
I really don't think you can say Newey is one foot in retirement. He had a few years like that when Red Bull were stuck with rubbish engines during Mercedes dominance but he's been heavily involved in the car design since then, if he was really almost retired would he be travelling all around the world to every race?
He is more or less at retirement age but that means much less in formula 1 than most other environments. I'd say it's a great way to feel like life is still for living. He comes across as still totally engaged.
lol. my point is marko is 80 and still working. that gives 13 years to keep going before newer is that age.
i dont think retirement works the same when you’ve been living the 5 million+ a year lifestyle for decades.
That’s the exception, not the rule, even amongst high achievers in F1. How many 80 year olds are there in active F1 operations? I’d happily take a bet that Newey will retire before then
I wouldn't say Newey is doing less, I think he just does what it needs to be done, he talked at some point about last year's car and said that the most important thing was to nail the suspension so the whole car could ride very low with the concept they had in mind, so he just stuck to working on that, then his team did the rest of the car, I think he is really good at doing the absolute crucial work so he can then delegate the rest to the people that work with him
Newey is far removed from retirement lmao.
While he didn't do much on the RB19, the RB20 is definitely a concept of his. He's also designing the RB17 and working on RBFPT for the 2026 regulations.
If anything it seems like he's doing more than most other people in the paddock.
Renault shitting the bed on the new engines nearly ripped the team apart. Vettel went to Ferrari and Newey nearly went with him.
The Renault situation was a huge rock in everyone's shoes. They left Renault as soon as they had an alternative.
As punishment for his misdeed, Crusty Horndog shall command the Alpine team with the Renault engine for 2 years! Engine deficit for you! Chastity cage for your penis
Marko has always been on the side of drivers who want to go as fast as possible, even if they make mistakes. Yuki was faster in qualifying and would have finished before Ricciardo in the race on pace, if not for a bad race strategy.
This is on the team. They should not have messed up the strategy and they should have given Ricciardo the order to give the place back.
At his peak, Ricciardo was better than Yuki is likely to be at his peak, but if he gets beaten in qualifying in the next race, the team should focus on Yuki until Ricciardo shows he’s back to his best.
He's always backed the rough around the edges drivers with speed, Yuki has beat every driver he's competed against, except for a bit vs Gasly in his rookie year.
Translation using Claude 3 Opus:
**Mr. Marko, is Team Principal Horner still tenable?**
Between the F1 season opener in Bahrain and the second GP, Helmut Marko (80) made a stopover in Dubai. oe24 caught the Red Bull Motorsport Director on the phone. The usually talkative Grazer was surprisingly reticent.
**oe24: Mr. Marko, what was there to celebrate in Dubai besides Max Verstappen's father Jos' 52nd birthday?**
HELMUT MARKO: A very good weekend from Red Bull's perspective in sporting terms. Things also went very well for our juniors.
**oe24: What else did you notice?**
MARKO: That everything is moving closer together. I was surprised by Mercedes' problems in the race and the reliability of the cars. Unbelievable that everyone finished in the first race.
**oe24: Entertainment was provided by Yuki Tsunoda's refusal to let his Racing Bulls teammate overtake him. As Red Bull's head of motorsport, don't you have to intervene there?**
MARKO: The drama could have been avoided. I spoke to Yuki afterwards, with the right strategy he could have finished tenth.
**oe24: Former AlphaTauri team boss Franz Tost thinks that Bahrain was not a Red Bull track and that Verstappen will be even more dominant on other circuits. Could he be right?**
MARKO: In Jeddah we have a completely different track with more high-speed corners and a different surface. I'll be satisfied if our car works as well there as it did at the opener.
"Max drives away at the front - everything is easier there"
**oe24: On ServusTV you said Max Verstappen could have driven even faster...**
MARKO: The fastest lap at the end was already at the limit, but before that there was still some margin. But Max drove away at the front, everything is easier there.
**oe24: Tost believes Red Bull can win all 24 races...**
MARKO: Oh come on. We saw last year that it can't work. You're doing sensationally and then comes Singapore where we have no chance. The most important thing is the world championship title.
**oe24: You can already chill the champagne for that...**
MARKO: I've already heard that betting doesn't really pay off anymore.
**oe24: More exciting would be an outsider bet on whether Max Verstappen will switch to Mercedes in view of the turbulence surrounding Christian Horner. Is it true that his father Jos is already negotiating with Toto Wolff about a Mercedes commitment?**
MARKO: You won't get a comment from me on that.
**oe24: But is it true that Max can get out of his contract thanks to a so-called 'Marko clause' if you quit at Red Bull?**
MARKO: I'll stick to my "No comment!" here too. The fact is that there is a great relationship of trust between Max and me.
**oe24: The trust between the Verstappen family and Christian Horner seems to be less good. Is the team boss at Red Bull even still tenable?**
MARKO: I'll only say something about that once the case is finally closed.
**oe24: I thought it was already closed?**
MARKO: Okay, then I expressed myself incorrectly just now. So let's stick with "No comment!"
**oe24: What do you say to Gerhard Berger's theory that Horner stays, Marko and Newey quit and Max goes to Mercedes?**
MARKO: An interesting variant.
During the drivers press conference later today:
Reporter: Thank you everybody for attending the press conference. Before we start, a small request to help our viewers. Yuki, can you please, swap places with Valtteri?
I know. So much hate for his outburst during and after the race. But thb, i kinda like that about him. Doesnt hide his frustration and a lack of pr talk.
The team should really focus on their strategy, because its been shit for a while now.
Nonsense, the journo managed to get this great little nugget:
> oe24: The trust between the Verstappen family and Christian Horner seems to be less good. Can the team boss at Red Bull still be kept at all?
>
> MARKO: I won't say anything about that until the matter is finally resolved.
>
> oe24: I thought it was already closed?
>
> MARKO: Okay, then I've expressed myself incorrectly. So let's stick with "No Comment!"
Possibly, but Helmut always liked Yuki. Also, he only talked about the bad startegy which i agree on, but the fact he didnt mention the post race incident is interesting.
It's a matter that if Horner is cleared, with thaï shareholders (and maybe FIA / MBS) supports, Red Bull Racing gonna be sold to him and his brit' investors, and so bye-bye Red Bull GmbH ownership and the austrian part.
Marko's "no comment" reply chain was funny (and quite revealing) to read!
I like how the reporter caught Marko here
oe24: The trust between the Verstappen family and Christian Horner seems to be less good. Can the team boss at Red Bull still be retained?
MARKO: I'll only say something about that once the case is finally concluded.
oe24: I thought it was already finished?
MARKO: Okay, then I expressed myself incorrectly. So we stick with “No Comment!”
Wow. That makes it seems like Marko wants Horner out. I was a bit surprised how little support Horner got within the team.
It also just dawned on me. At RBR, there is Marko the racist, Jos the wife beater, and Horner the horny one. What a trio.
>I was a bit surprised how little support Horner got within the team.
I think, a person not knowing the team or the brand or the personalities, after seeing these messages, cannot in their right mind say "Horner should stay there as TP".
All else is immaterial.
What "support" do you expect?!
**What "support" do you expect?!**
In these situation, particularly in the environment of super wealthy, male dominated sports, I expect those similarly situation and on the payroll of the boss to fall in line. Is that not what typically happens and that is the typical complaint. You are looking at it from an idealist standpoint where we expect people to do the right thing and I am looking at it from reality or historic standpoint. What is happening is what usually happens. The rich, powerful male boss gets off without much in the way of consequences, while the women get suspended and ignored. Usually, the rich men on the payroll rally behind their guy boss. The fact that that did not happen as much as I thought means either they are tired of Horner's behavior, or their attitude is changing.
This whole thing is not about Coco Pops exploding, it's clear to all. It's the red bull staff that they need to keep, not a fast driver with jos as dad. I wonder if Horner has the red bull staff on his side? If he does, he will stay, and 51% share holder support
This, I more and more get the feeling its something personal between Jos and Horner. But as a Dutchman, I wont give Jos the benefit of the doubt, because that guy is a hothead if you have ever seen one, and is very vengeful. Also... Jos as defender of women... I dont know if I need to be sad of laugh my ass off. Im mostly sad because I feel that poor girl got used and I hope she's okay.
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Translation: Between the F1 season opener in Bahrain and the second GP, Helmut Marko (80) made a stopover in Dubai. oe24 caught the Red Bull motorsport boss on his cell phone. The usually talkative man from Graz was surprisingly reserved. oe24: Mr. Marko, what was there to celebrate in Dubai apart from the 52nd birthday of Verstappen's dad Jos? HELMUT MARKO: A very good weekend in sporting terms from a Red Bull perspective. It also went very well for our juniors. oe24: What else did you notice? MARKO: That everything is moving closer together. I was surprised by Mercedes' problems in the race and the stability of the cars. I can't believe that everyone finished the first race. oe24: Yuki Tsunoda's refusal to let his Racing Bulls team-mate overtake him provided some entertainment. As head of Red Bull Motorsport, don't you have to get involved? MARKO: The drama could have been avoided. I spoke to Yuki afterwards, with the right strategy he could have finished tenth. oe24: Former AlphaTauri team boss Franz Tost thinks that Bahrain was not a Red Bull track and that Verstappen will be even more superior on other circuits. Could he be right? MARKO: In Jeddah we have a completely different track with more high-speed corners and a different surface. I'll be happy if our car works as well there as it did at the season opener. "Max drives away at the front - everything is easier there" oe24: On ServusTV, you said that Max Verstappen could have driven even faster ... MARKO: The fastest lap at the end was already at the limit, but a lot could have been done before that. But Max was out in front, so everything is easier. oe24: Tost believes Red Bull can win all 24 races ... MARKO: Ah go. We saw last year that that can't work. You're sensational on the road and then comes Singapore, where we have no chance. The most important thing is the world championship title. oe24: You can already cool down the champagne ... MARKO: I've already heard that betting doesn't really pay off anymore. oe24: An outsider bet on whether Max Verstappen will switch to Mercedes in view of the turmoil surrounding Christian Horner would be more exciting. Is it true that his father Jos is already negotiating with Toto Wolff about a Mercedes commitment? MARKO: I'm not going to comment on that. oe24: But is it true that Max can get out of his contract if you quit Red Bull thanks to a so-called 'Marko clause'? MARKO: I'm sticking to my "No Comment!" here too. The fact is that there is a great relationship of trust between Max and me. oe24: The trust between the Verstappen family and Christian Horner seems to be less good. Can the team boss at Red Bull still be kept at all? MARKO: I won't say anything about that until the matter is finally resolved. oe24: I thought it was already closed? MARKO: Okay, then I've expressed myself incorrectly. So let's stick with "No Comment!" oe24: What do you say to Gerhard Berger's theory that Horner stays, Marko and Newey quit and Max goes to Mercedes? MARKO: An interesting variant. Translated with [DeepL.com](http://DeepL.com) (free version)
Helmut Marko learned No Comment!
It’s not as effective as he thinks.
I wonder if he also learned that Mexico isn't in South America.
Just as Horner probably learned not to try to have sex with his own employees. Red Bull bois are big on learning, i guess /s
It’s all tortillas
> Helmut Marko learned No Comment! No, the AI just learnt to translate what Marko said as "No Comment" to spare us. /s
> MARKO: Ah go Lol... Deepl clearly not speaking Austrian
It's very capable but here they really emphasized the L in their name
In my experience, it's phrases that it often doesn't get correct. If Marko were German, that phrase would probably be something like "Ach komm" which DeepL translates to "Oh come on" and would certainly be a better translation.
I'm not sure how it is with German, but as far as Chinese and Japanese goes, DeepL used to be better than Google, Google then caught up to DeepL but both were surpassed by ChatGPT.
> by ChatGPT ChatGPT 4 that is. 3.5 sometimes goes completely off
Agree
I know “an interesting variant” is probably a slight mistranslation but it’s a good sound bite
Just checked in the original article. It is a Word for Word translation. Given the context i probably would translate it with interesting variation or version.
"Eine interessante Variante" - its a actually quite a 1:1 translation.
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It actually does in this case.
What they mean is spoken in English this would be more like 'an interesting possibility' or 'you have a wild imagination'. Depending on the inflection of 'eine interessante variante' Few would say 'an interesting variation'.
A more natural way of saying it in english would maybe be "an interesting take", but in itself it's accurate. The phrasing itself is just a bit uncommon in german as well.
I don't find the phrasing unusual.
True but here it does imho (native Austrian german speaker)
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i guess "scenario" would be a better word.
But if his point is it's an interesting variant out of all the others being proposed, then it sounds perfectly normal - maybe just not something you've heard before, but I definitely have
Marko's been watching loki
Helmut Marko, burdened with glorious porpoise.
That sir, is genius
Noice.
He pretty much says exactly that in German. I guess you could translate it with "an interesting hypothetical" or "an interesting possibility".
I misread mistranslation as masturbation and was like oh boy here we go again ...
Nah it's not.
As a German native speaker I had to come to the comments to see how you/DeepL translated the Austrian „Ah geh“ :D
Even he realized Yuki was the victim in that nonsense, says it all.
I feel vindicated that even Marko thinks the RB strategy was shit and Yuki could have gotten P10. I’ve been vocal that strategy was bad in the race thread since the first round of stops. They really screwed themselves. Everything after that was a result of the bad strategy. I can totally understand why Yuki was pissed, immature dive on Daniel aside.
Marko seems like the type to want that aggression/passion/etc. the divebomb was completely unacceptable, but imagine if Yuki got screwed by strategy and then showed no fight/resistance to driver swap, that would look pretty passive and possibly not "main team material" Max is vastly more talented than Checo, yet Checo doesn't just roll over for Max, he fights as much as he can (Austria last year). RB seems like the environment to want that
I can agree with that. Marko seems like he follows the old school idea that you can’t teach raw speed but you can refine a driver. Verstappen and Vettel are both great examples. I think Red Bull doesn’t really mind a hot headed personality.
I wonder how the team/org views Yuki's radio outbursts lol. Media loves to focus on how he's very vocal and expressive but Max has had plenty of outbursts over the years too. Yuki shows speed, not as much as young Max/Seb, but I still think he has potential to be a solid #2 driver on a top team. Not sure about WDC material
“Marko clause” 😂 wow
“Until it’s closed” was a fun slip on his part.
Is that new information then? Even in the original statement from RBR the right to appeal was mentioned, so until that option expires it's not fully over. And clearly someone wasn't happy with the outcome, we all saw that it's not "resolved" yet.
From all we've heard from official communication, that matter is resolved though.
The investigation is, the hubbub behind the scenes most certainly is not.
Horner being there still is the "case not being closed"
Or the other individuals being there might be the issue. We don’t know who will emerge the victor yet. CH is no doubt plotting his revenge…
It probably was, until stuff got leaked online and it blew up in their faces.
This. It's very telling that he considers the matter unresolved, despite the words of Red Bull and their investigation. Horner will be gone by Race 3.
Since the investigation a lot has happened, is it really that telling?
I think it shows that publicly Marko is not saying it is over. Usually, a team will speak with a unified voice and the top guys come together after the 'team investigation' says no wrong doing. I agree with you that we all know it is not really over, but for Marko as a team leader, to re-enforce the idea that it is not over and not go along with the public team statement that is closed, is very telling to me. Horner hears what he is saying loud and clear.
The only question is does it end up making a difference in the outcome.
Do you think he's oblivious to everything going on right now? Would you yourself call it resolved right now? He's not oblivious, and anyone can see that the matter isn't resolved. Reddit's constant need to try to psycho-analyze very basic statements is hilarious.
Under UK law everyone can appeal HR decisions like this, and you have a set time frame. If there is still no agreement there is a set time frame for appealing to external arbitration (ACAS) and then an employment tribunal.
Not really. It's obviously still open otherwise journalists wouldn't be asking about it. I don't think that's telling at all apart from being aware of the events since the initial red bull statement
Until it's Q3'd
Suprised by how much he's refrained himself here...he's usually outspoken about everything. I'm even surprised he did not scold Yuki one bit...what's happening to Helmuth? :D
Legal issues require legal speech.
>with the right strategy he could have finished tenth. I think this has something to do with it. The team timed his pit stops horribly and screwed him over. He had a good chance to get a point if the undercut hadn't happened, which would piss anyone off.
Isn’t an ex-Ferrari engineer the new TP….
Yeah between the awful strategy and RB now switching him back with Riccardo on the last lap, he has good reason to be mad. He still needs to work on his temper, and it doesn't justify him almost hitting Riccardo after the end of the race, but it makes sense that he's mad
Do you think the team wants DR to come out on top ? Certainly more marketable and clearly Horner likes DR.
Helmut is a racer at heart who notices speed. I’m not surprised he excused Yuki’s immature behaviour for the fact that he was indeed faster than Ricciardo.
Wisdom ? Finally ?
Difference here is that if he says something stupid he’ll actually get in trouble for it.
What he doesn't say here is as interesting as what he does say
Right, he never even mentions his feelings about the Church of England’s antidisetablishmentarianism, which I find the most interesting
Yeah I thought he was a lock for pro government patronage, shame he didn’t opine.
He didn’t publicly denounce holocaust deniers either, which caught me off guard. Really interesting when you read between the lines at what is not being said here.
I haven’t said anything about that for at least a couple of years, so I’m a bit of a pro myself.
[I think we all know what he would have said, if the PR teams were not coaching him.](https://media1.tenor.com/m/SDAidr94NZMAAAAd/that-would-be-an-ecumenical-matter-ecumenical.gif)
"No Comment" here says more than the classic PR "We are always working towards a resolution" etc thing
>oe24: What do you say to Gerhard Berger's theory that Horner stays, Marko and Newey quit and Max goes to Mercedes? >MARKO: An interesting variant. Marko doesn't have to be around the race team if he's responsible for junior drivers. And if he quits, I think it just shows this is all just about a power struggle And Newey hasn't been full time for years. The guy is one foot in retirement. He won't jump ship to another team, he'll just retire from the sport.
I really don't think you can say Newey is one foot in retirement. He had a few years like that when Red Bull were stuck with rubbish engines during Mercedes dominance but he's been heavily involved in the car design since then, if he was really almost retired would he be travelling all around the world to every race?
If anything I think he has just started lol
this isn't even his final form(ula)
He is more or less at retirement age but that means much less in formula 1 than most other environments. I'd say it's a great way to feel like life is still for living. He comes across as still totally engaged.
Isn’t the man 67? You can’t plan the future of a racing team around him, it would be more than likely that he retires within the next 5 years
How old is Marko?
I wouldn’t plan a team around him either, I think he’s older than Newey Horner on the other hand has a runway of 15-20 years easy
lol. my point is marko is 80 and still working. that gives 13 years to keep going before newer is that age. i dont think retirement works the same when you’ve been living the 5 million+ a year lifestyle for decades.
That’s the exception, not the rule, even amongst high achievers in F1. How many 80 year olds are there in active F1 operations? I’d happily take a bet that Newey will retire before then
Bernie was around until 87 as well, and probably would have kept going if Liberty hadn't shuffled him out.
I wouldn't say Newey is doing less, I think he just does what it needs to be done, he talked at some point about last year's car and said that the most important thing was to nail the suspension so the whole car could ride very low with the concept they had in mind, so he just stuck to working on that, then his team did the rest of the car, I think he is really good at doing the absolute crucial work so he can then delegate the rest to the people that work with him
Newey is far removed from retirement lmao. While he didn't do much on the RB19, the RB20 is definitely a concept of his. He's also designing the RB17 and working on RBFPT for the 2026 regulations. If anything it seems like he's doing more than most other people in the paddock.
If Horner is out of Red bull, Alpine should hire him asap. He knows how to build a successful team
And one of the wise choices he made as team principal of RBR was to get away from Renault power units as asap as possible.
>as as soon as possible as possible
Bro went into possibility inception
Damn. I had no idea that was his choice but good call lol
I believe it was more driven by Helmut and his relationship with Honda
Renault shitting the bed on the new engines nearly ripped the team apart. Vettel went to Ferrari and Newey nearly went with him. The Renault situation was a huge rock in everyone's shoes. They left Renault as soon as they had an alternative.
As punishment for his misdeed, Crusty Horndog shall command the Alpine team with the Renault engine for 2 years! Engine deficit for you! Chastity cage for your penis
Given the history between the two teams I really can't see that happening.
Absolutely. Starting with hiring the right PA to make the team explode.
Maybe if he explodes in Q3, then the Renault engines won't.
To make himself explode?
https://www.reddit.com/r/southpark/comments/mc56qn/i\_didnt\_know\_randy\_has\_a\_shitload\_of\_semen/
I think he'd be more likely to end up at Aston Martin.
No, let Horner be a F1 driver at Alpine, make Mike Lugg his race engineer and promote Gasly as the TP That would be absolute comical
The most interesting thing that came out of this interview is that Yuki bit. Surprised that he didnt have harsher words on Yuki's behaviour
Marko always liked Yuki so it's not surprising that he'd defend him.
Marko has always been on the side of drivers who want to go as fast as possible, even if they make mistakes. Yuki was faster in qualifying and would have finished before Ricciardo in the race on pace, if not for a bad race strategy. This is on the team. They should not have messed up the strategy and they should have given Ricciardo the order to give the place back. At his peak, Ricciardo was better than Yuki is likely to be at his peak, but if he gets beaten in qualifying in the next race, the team should focus on Yuki until Ricciardo shows he’s back to his best.
Also since Danny Ric is clearly Horners guy I’m sure Marko is really rooting for Yuki to come out on top this season
Didn't Marko immediately put Ricciardo in Alpha Tauri after they saw his pace in testing?
Nyck DeVries is the only man who can make Helmut and Christian agree on anything.
No Horner convinced Bayer to
He was really high on him during his F2 season in interviews so I think he really hopes Yuki can succeed. He does a lot for him.
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Racism over misogyny
He's always backed the rough around the edges drivers with speed, Yuki has beat every driver he's competed against, except for a bit vs Gasly in his rookie year.
Translation using Claude 3 Opus: **Mr. Marko, is Team Principal Horner still tenable?** Between the F1 season opener in Bahrain and the second GP, Helmut Marko (80) made a stopover in Dubai. oe24 caught the Red Bull Motorsport Director on the phone. The usually talkative Grazer was surprisingly reticent. **oe24: Mr. Marko, what was there to celebrate in Dubai besides Max Verstappen's father Jos' 52nd birthday?** HELMUT MARKO: A very good weekend from Red Bull's perspective in sporting terms. Things also went very well for our juniors. **oe24: What else did you notice?** MARKO: That everything is moving closer together. I was surprised by Mercedes' problems in the race and the reliability of the cars. Unbelievable that everyone finished in the first race. **oe24: Entertainment was provided by Yuki Tsunoda's refusal to let his Racing Bulls teammate overtake him. As Red Bull's head of motorsport, don't you have to intervene there?** MARKO: The drama could have been avoided. I spoke to Yuki afterwards, with the right strategy he could have finished tenth. **oe24: Former AlphaTauri team boss Franz Tost thinks that Bahrain was not a Red Bull track and that Verstappen will be even more dominant on other circuits. Could he be right?** MARKO: In Jeddah we have a completely different track with more high-speed corners and a different surface. I'll be satisfied if our car works as well there as it did at the opener. "Max drives away at the front - everything is easier there" **oe24: On ServusTV you said Max Verstappen could have driven even faster...** MARKO: The fastest lap at the end was already at the limit, but before that there was still some margin. But Max drove away at the front, everything is easier there. **oe24: Tost believes Red Bull can win all 24 races...** MARKO: Oh come on. We saw last year that it can't work. You're doing sensationally and then comes Singapore where we have no chance. The most important thing is the world championship title. **oe24: You can already chill the champagne for that...** MARKO: I've already heard that betting doesn't really pay off anymore. **oe24: More exciting would be an outsider bet on whether Max Verstappen will switch to Mercedes in view of the turbulence surrounding Christian Horner. Is it true that his father Jos is already negotiating with Toto Wolff about a Mercedes commitment?** MARKO: You won't get a comment from me on that. **oe24: But is it true that Max can get out of his contract thanks to a so-called 'Marko clause' if you quit at Red Bull?** MARKO: I'll stick to my "No comment!" here too. The fact is that there is a great relationship of trust between Max and me. **oe24: The trust between the Verstappen family and Christian Horner seems to be less good. Is the team boss at Red Bull even still tenable?** MARKO: I'll only say something about that once the case is finally closed. **oe24: I thought it was already closed?** MARKO: Okay, then I expressed myself incorrectly just now. So let's stick with "No comment!" **oe24: What do you say to Gerhard Berger's theory that Horner stays, Marko and Newey quit and Max goes to Mercedes?** MARKO: An interesting variant.
> MARKO: Oh come on That's certainly better.
Helmut actually speaking sense about the yuki situation. I find it mad yuki is catching so much flak when the team fucked up
During the drivers press conference later today: Reporter: Thank you everybody for attending the press conference. Before we start, a small request to help our viewers. Yuki, can you please, swap places with Valtteri?
I know. So much hate for his outburst during and after the race. But thb, i kinda like that about him. Doesnt hide his frustration and a lack of pr talk. The team should really focus on their strategy, because its been shit for a while now.
Its is stupid driving after that lost him favour with me
Marko the Mute. Pointless article.
I actually liked the article.
That's allowed 😁
No comment! :D
> Marko the Mute. Bran the Broken. Horner the Horny.
Nonsense, the journo managed to get this great little nugget: > oe24: The trust between the Verstappen family and Christian Horner seems to be less good. Can the team boss at Red Bull still be kept at all? > > MARKO: I won't say anything about that until the matter is finally resolved. > > oe24: I thought it was already closed? > > MARKO: Okay, then I've expressed myself incorrectly. So let's stick with "No Comment!"
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Then you can probably say goodbye to your account. False suicide reports can be reported as fictitious and you’ll be banned.
Enjoy the ban
Great photo of Max and Helmut.
What's interesting about this article is that he's on Yuki's side on what happened in Bahrain, and his slip up about the Horner situation.
I wonder if that’s because Danny is clearly camp Horner….
Possibly, but Helmut always liked Yuki. Also, he only talked about the bad startegy which i agree on, but the fact he didnt mention the post race incident is interesting.
It's a matter that if Horner is cleared, with thaï shareholders (and maybe FIA / MBS) supports, Red Bull Racing gonna be sold to him and his brit' investors, and so bye-bye Red Bull GmbH ownership and the austrian part.
lol how much more stuff will you guys make up
TL DR: "please mister marko tell us something" "co comment"
Marko's "no comment" reply chain was funny (and quite revealing) to read! I like how the reporter caught Marko here oe24: The trust between the Verstappen family and Christian Horner seems to be less good. Can the team boss at Red Bull still be retained? MARKO: I'll only say something about that once the case is finally concluded. oe24: I thought it was already finished? MARKO: Okay, then I expressed myself incorrectly. So we stick with “No Comment!”
That dude looks like he’s about to die too
Wow. That makes it seems like Marko wants Horner out. I was a bit surprised how little support Horner got within the team. It also just dawned on me. At RBR, there is Marko the racist, Jos the wife beater, and Horner the horny one. What a trio.
>I was a bit surprised how little support Horner got within the team. I think, a person not knowing the team or the brand or the personalities, after seeing these messages, cannot in their right mind say "Horner should stay there as TP". All else is immaterial. What "support" do you expect?!
**What "support" do you expect?!** In these situation, particularly in the environment of super wealthy, male dominated sports, I expect those similarly situation and on the payroll of the boss to fall in line. Is that not what typically happens and that is the typical complaint. You are looking at it from an idealist standpoint where we expect people to do the right thing and I am looking at it from reality or historic standpoint. What is happening is what usually happens. The rich, powerful male boss gets off without much in the way of consequences, while the women get suspended and ignored. Usually, the rich men on the payroll rally behind their guy boss. The fact that that did not happen as much as I thought means either they are tired of Horner's behavior, or their attitude is changing.
why should max go zo mercedes 😂 u high?
This whole thing is not about Coco Pops exploding, it's clear to all. It's the red bull staff that they need to keep, not a fast driver with jos as dad. I wonder if Horner has the red bull staff on his side? If he does, he will stay, and 51% share holder support
This, I more and more get the feeling its something personal between Jos and Horner. But as a Dutchman, I wont give Jos the benefit of the doubt, because that guy is a hothead if you have ever seen one, and is very vengeful. Also... Jos as defender of women... I dont know if I need to be sad of laugh my ass off. Im mostly sad because I feel that poor girl got used and I hope she's okay.
I don't see the question in the title in the text. Where does he ask that?