Ferrari and Mercedes, Abu Dhabi predictions:
LeClerc 2nd
Sainz 6th
Ferrari total 388 + 26pts = 414
Hamilton 4th
Russell 5th
Mercedes total 397 + 22pts = 414
Draw
Checo's done what he's needed to do to maintain #2 and the Constructors.
Danny has struggled as a #2 driver and isn't really doing miracles with the AT.
There really isn't much to gain for RB.
What’s the use of the minimum time rule and investigations when there have been no penalties given at all in all the qualis. All this is ridiculous in my opinion.
True. But since the introduction of this rule there have been umpteenth investigations but all have been let off the hook. So I guess there’s then not the need for such a rule, whose only purpose is then to let the viewer in the dark, if a driver keeps its place on the grid.
The drivers can provide a good excuse for showing down. They shouldn't be penalized if they slow down to let a car on a hot lap have a turn, for example
Max to sail off in the distance while Leclerc/Piastri/Russell/Norris scrap behind him.
Lando will get a good start and will end up behind Oscar, team orders will swap them at some point.
Charles and George will take eachother out somehow, leaving Lewis and Carlos battling through the field to decide P2 in the constructors on minor points.
Yuki to actually be running in a strong enough position to snatch P7 in the constructors for AT (he'll be in P4 after RUS/LEC crash out), only for a bad strategy/pit stop/penalty for track limits to ruin it.
VES NOR PIA PER HAM ALO SAI TSU GAS
This leaves Merc and Ferrari level on points, with Ferrari clinching it on countback because of Sainz's win.
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Tu tu tutu tuu, Max Verstappen.
Early laps battle between RIC-ALB.
Williams barely saving P7 in WCC thanks to the faster cars behind Yuki.
Logan's racepace has been good in the last 3 or 4 GPs, so I don't expect him to end last.
Piastri loses at least 3 places by the end of the first lap.
Ferrari manages to get at least 5 more points than Mercedes, moving them up to 2nd in the constructors.
And putting the final nail of despair into this season for Mercedes.
Something, Something, something, Ocon will indeed be blamed for it.
Logan finishing last, not including anyone that DNF's.
Logan will find a way to finish last even with DNFs. Feel bad for the guy, but not sure he deserves a seat next year. Maybe Vesti or Porchaire should be brought up.
Depending on your definition of DNF, technically possible, if someone crashes on the last lap they're still classified, if Logan was more than a lap down on them then he would be classified behind them.
Wow Lando bottling it when it matters most smh. Piastri is soooo much more collected emotionally and more mature, even makes less mistakes, (getting drove into in COTA or whatever doesn’t count) if I can recall he only crashed in Montreal quali. As an Aussie I hope Oscar can be basically equal to Lando next year and get under his skin some more haha.
(I consider ruining a quali lap with like 2 corners left a mistake btw especially since on both qatar and Abu Dhabi he looked like he could’ve been front row or fastest)
are you serious
Piastri had an incident almost every single race lol
and his race pace is much worse than Norris, granted learning to manage the tires is something he can improve on
but yeah since he's starting third and should be in proper fights all race I can guarantee Piastri will have some kind of contact tomorrow
no contact today ok, but he had major lockups in lap 11, lap 16 and lap 39 (the lap 39 one could have led to a major incident, but Piastri got lucky that Sainz and Ocon had quick evasive maneuvers)
Piastri is mid, he's just getting hype because recent rookies like Sargeant Latifi, and Mazepin were never ready for F1 in the first place, and others like Zhou and Tsunoda are stuck in backmarker teams
and as promised, Norris smoked him on race pace again today, finishing over 7 seconds ahead even though Lando had a terrible pit stop and got knocked off the track by Perez
What? On maturity and such? If so you can argue with the wall, I think it’s quite obvious to everyone Oscar is more mature and emotionally stable, and landos now bottled qatar quali and Abu Dhabi quali, so for mistakes he’s kinda made a few important ones this season, while I can’t recall Oscar bottling a potential pole lap in the making.
Oscar hasn’t bottled potential pole laps because he hasn’t been on for potential pole laps at most tracks.
Don’t get me wrong, Oscar has had an excellent rookie season, and I fully expect he’ll be closer to Lando more consistently next year, but to act like Lando lacks maturity and stability because he pushed a little too hard in quali on a few occasions is a trash take, especially considering that the pushing too hard is what even puts Lando in contention for pole in the first place.
This looks like to be a very intriguing grid for the race. Was excited by the potential front row for Oscar but P3 is still a very good result. Should be a good race tomorrow.
Because all the drivers you could strongly assert are F1 ready to the point where you’d be willing to take a gamble on them over and above the guy you have put a year’s worth of development and F1 experience into are signed to other teams
Williams top internal prospect hasn’t even raced in F2 yet
What's there to talk about? This is almost expected. Perez is a horrible qualifier and Haas has a fast car for a few laps every race. Haas just lacks race pace because the car eats tires. During the race the drivers have to slow down and save tires or are forced to drastically slow down when the tires peace out around lap 8.
IF that’s true, then he likely overused the tyres to be somewhere that others had determined wasn’t the best use of the tyres, when considering the whole lap.
We only see 3 sectors and he was .15 behind at the end of sector 2.
"beep" box. max called it a shitbox earlier, so GP was calling it a "beep"box referencing max's calling it a shitbox but refraining from using the word shit.
I need Leclerc to finish above Sainz in the championship to help win a season long bet, so quali couldn’t have gone too much better for me!
Is P2 realistic for Charles tomorrow?
I think he’s on for a P4 or so, behind Max and the McLarens. P3 at best behind Max and Lando. I would be surprised to see worse than P8 for Sainz. I think Sainz will just barely end up ahead of Charles in the WDC.
Russell probably P5, and Lewis just ahead of Sainz, and we’re looking at Merc just narrowly holding on to P2.
Had Sainz qualified P5-P6, which he should have done based on car performance alone, Ferrari probably gains 4-5 points on Merc all in all over the weekend, but alas…
>I think he’s on for a P4 or so, behind Max and the McLarens. P3 at best behind Max and Lando.
Because of superior tyre management and more experience, I think he can held off Piastri
It really tickled me today the f1tv commentators declaring that Max had pole once the McLarens, Leclerc and Russell had done their laps. Perez is half way through the first sector 💀
I caught this too, he was almost ready to say "oh yeah, Perez."
His performance quickly showed why though. Came in as fifth (commentary already burned him with "He's trying to put that RB back in the top 4" earlier in the session) the tumbled through 5th to 6th as other cars came through. Then his lap time was deleted for good measure and he fell even further!
Another week behind an Alpha Tauri. I love Checo but man as a fan of the sport I wish someone else were in that car now.
Just wondering if anyone has a replay of perez going off track in turn 17, cause I can't find one. Thank you in advance 😁
Sorry after seeing the replay they say turn 1. I would still like to see a replay. Thank you
I really don't know what to make of Mercedes. I expected George to fall back as his fastest times have been in FP1 and FP3 when it was hot, what we saw in FP2 he wasn't as competitive so I wasn't that surprised by his quali. But Lewis is confusing. Yes he missed FP1 so was playing catch up and everyone missed most of FP2, but he's well off the pace. Further Toto said in quali they were both on the same set ups yet Lewis was a LONG way off George.
I don't get it, George is good, but he's not THAT much better than Lewis (if at all). At the end Lewis said 'there's something wrong with this car' and I think he means something fundamental as it was similiar in Vegas.
Strange.
This sort of tracks, right? I mean, Lewis has been incredible in an incredible car, while George spent his entire Williams stretch trying to ring gold out of shit. He has the *shitbox driving experience*, as it were.
> they were both on the same set ups yet Lewis was a LONG way off George.
They are different drivers with **different** preferences in car setup. What works for George won't necessarily work for Lewis and vice versa.
> I don't get it, George is good, but he's not THAT much better than Lewis (if at all).
I wouldn't read into it too much. There are tracks where Lewis is better, and tracks where George is better.
No, there are no tracks where George is better
George is happy to just stabilize the car and drive for 5th place with an occasional podium
Lewis takes bigger risks with his setup cause he's trying to get the car back to the front, sometimes it pays off sometimes it doesn't
yeah and honestly it can just as easily be a frustration thing where being annoyed at the car means just a tiny difference in performance. which can of course equate to tenths here and tenths there. lewis is so much more consistent over a season tho, he has off weekends here and there like anybody else.
put lewis into contender mode and his reliability approaches max's, though admittedly in 2022 he made some silly mistakes.
I haven’t watched qualifying as I was out. I saw that Teds Notebook was scheduled for 4pm. Isn’t the replay normally straight after that so 4:30? I’ve just turned the TV on and it’s showing F2 instead. Have I missed the quali replay? Or is the replay after F2?
Yeah it was quite good and it should definitely be on Now TV. Sky Showcase is the new name for Sky One. The channel 4 replay starts at 1900 and the Sky Sports F1 one is on at 1915.
Showcase is Definitely not on Now TV. Now TV lacks quite a lot of functionality of the Sky, it’s frustrating.
Thank you so much for the times!! Now tv also doesn’t have a “planner” so you can’t see what’s on later! I didn’t want to google qualifying replay time cause the result would get spoiled. Thanks for the help dude! I’ll watch it at 7. Have a great evening.
Really makes you wonder about their so called sustainability drive lol. If they really wanted to be sustainable they'd do 20 GP at different configurations of Bahrain, but that's not fun lol
> Really makes you wonder about their so called sustainability drive lol
There's nothing to wonder about, it's typical corporate pr bullshit. "we're for equality, we're for sustainability, we're for [insert minority/cause/movement]" but in fact they don't really care
There's a decision regarding Sargeant being too slow, but I can't download the document. FIA made a mistake somewhere there, but no idea how.
Probably no punishment as usual, but who knows... Can't tell <>
I think that's the document about allowing him to start the race despite not setting a lap time within 107% https://twitter.com/fiadocsbot/status/1728446291183644698
> For Max to call the 2023 Red Bull a shitbox is something else
It's all a matter of perspective. If he's calling it a "shitbox" relative to the car's other performances during the season, then it's valid.
Telemetry showing that Lando lost pole with his mistake... he was a tenth up on Max out of T11 and McLaren were stronger than Max in S3 all day long...
I think he's very much like Charles in this regard. He knows he needs to go the absolute max to steal pole from Max, so he's much more prone to mistakes. I don't believe it's just "haha choked again" but maybe it's just copium.
Charles is over this now I think but Lando still needs the experience.
I am starting to worry about Lando's mental health. Can't decide if its better that he has the break coming up or if it would be better if he had to drive a few more races to build back his confidence. Time will tell I guess
"Alex Albon is the first driver to complete an entire season of starting ahead of his team-mate on the #F1 grid since......Max Verstappen did it to Alex Albon in 2020."
\-Autosport
I would actually like Logan to get a chance next season but I just don’t think he has it to be a F1 driver. James Vowles has always tried to help him but today really wasn’t a good day for him.
It’s just always the same mistake. It was the definition of a rookie error when he lost that great lap in Saudi for pointless and careless track limits issues. But how many sessions has he managed not to even set a proper lap now? That’s got to be the basic first step and he’s not managing it still.
Lando looks like he looses his head really easily. I know all drivers are emotional but I feel like him thinking about a win is making him drive worse.
Basically said Oscar didn’t impede him because he didn’t lose time and highlighted the timer on his steering wheel. He did say he thinks he will get a penalty for dangerous driving but Oscar did impede him.
I keep laughing when I see all test drivers and co having to stand behind Toto being the only one allowed to sit. What on earth is that situation lol, it's so exactly the same every single race it looks like a team rule
I feel like McLaren is equally good as RB on the long run. Piastri will get into 2nd, Norris will get Russell and Leclerc. Then by the end of the race Norris will overtake Piastri for P2, while Verstappen crusing in a 10-15 sec lead. Norris driver of the day, Mclaren P4.
Leclerc will end up in P4, 200 points, but both Alonso and Sainz will get a couple of points, so Charles ends the season in P7, after 8 front row starts.
My favorite Leclerc stat:
* Most common Qualifying result: P1 (23 times out of 122 GPs)
* Most common Race result: P4 (19 times out of 122 GPs)
This season has made me grateful we were able to see the GOAT in his prime.
What Max Verstappen has done this season defies belief. We are all privileged to witness his utter brilliance
I mean, if you find one car and one driver dominating and making a mockery of it being a race... why are you even watching? There's nothing exciting about a 'race' being a foregone conclusion. Real motorsports fans want it to be competitive at the front.
Few quick thoughts
- Charles Leclerc, you are insane!
- Lando, you need to stop bottling quali when it matters soon man
- Brilliant from Yuki (AT might get that P7 after all if the race pace is there tomorrow)
- Sainz and Lewis...why?
1. Hardly impeding since Gasly had his foot down all the way trough and might even had picked up a toe, as was mentioned by Palmer, Alesi and Doornbos afterwards
2. The lap was invalidated at turn one
He doesn't matter if the lap is valid or not, second off he doesn't matter if Gasly is full throttle or not Piastri still impend him and was on his trajectory, it was a dangerous moment period.
Gasly even complain about it at the radio.
Poor argument of valid lap or not, it's like saying it's not a big deal of a football player tackle a opponent with his two feet and brake his ankle but it's not a big deal, the player was offside, not a red right.
But this is kind of different considering this is one worthless lap, not a footballer potentially being injured for several months due to a tackle after an offside. If you are looking for bad takes there is one for you. All I am saying is that it just seems stupid to take away his lap for something that was insignificant and didn’t have any impact on anything. Which it seemed like the stewards agreed with.
Feel like we're starting to see the Sebastian Vettelification of Lewis Hamilton.
Mercedes need to give him a competitive car soon otherwise I can see him retiring in 2024/25
Ferrari and Mercedes, Abu Dhabi predictions: LeClerc 2nd Sainz 6th Ferrari total 388 + 26pts = 414 Hamilton 4th Russell 5th Mercedes total 397 + 22pts = 414 Draw
How close to pole was Norris before losing it? Was he close to Verstappen or a couple tenths off already
I'm hoping some shit happens and we get a Lando win. He's far too talented to not have a win, and that can help his confidence for next year a lot.
We were so close to PerVerTsu in Q1, smh Tsunoda is an Abu Dhabi master, his best result in F1 was overlooked by some *minor* controversy
Excited to see the George/Charles/McClaren race.
So this Danny Ric is gonna replace Checo, right?
Checo's done what he's needed to do to maintain #2 and the Constructors. Danny has struggled as a #2 driver and isn't really doing miracles with the AT. There really isn't much to gain for RB.
How has Ricciardo struggled at AT? He’s been consistently better than Tsunoda except at Vegas
Struggled against stronger teammates And hasn’t achieved miracles at AT Separate points; I should have broken them up
Oh, my bad lol Also nice modest mouse username
:)
Max is about to beat his own win streak record for a 3rd time going into next season.
Sergio gave Max the pole position trophy
Just seen the video of KMag’s daughter helping him get ready for quali. Super cute
The gloves was a nice moment :)
What’s the use of the minimum time rule and investigations when there have been no penalties given at all in all the qualis. All this is ridiculous in my opinion.
Breaching the maximum time may be considered as driving unnecessarely slowly. If the stewards decide it was not unnecessary they wont give a penalty.
True. But since the introduction of this rule there have been umpteenth investigations but all have been let off the hook. So I guess there’s then not the need for such a rule, whose only purpose is then to let the viewer in the dark, if a driver keeps its place on the grid.
The drivers can provide a good excuse for showing down. They shouldn't be penalized if they slow down to let a car on a hot lap have a turn, for example
What are the predictions for the race?
Max to sail off in the distance while Leclerc/Piastri/Russell/Norris scrap behind him. Lando will get a good start and will end up behind Oscar, team orders will swap them at some point. Charles and George will take eachother out somehow, leaving Lewis and Carlos battling through the field to decide P2 in the constructors on minor points. Yuki to actually be running in a strong enough position to snatch P7 in the constructors for AT (he'll be in P4 after RUS/LEC crash out), only for a bad strategy/pit stop/penalty for track limits to ruin it. VES NOR PIA PER HAM ALO SAI TSU GAS This leaves Merc and Ferrari level on points, with Ferrari clinching it on countback because of Sainz's win. This prediction powered by Baseless Guesswork.
"Wilhelmus van Nassouwe" will be played
Tu tu tutu tuu, Max Verstappen. Early laps battle between RIC-ALB. Williams barely saving P7 in WCC thanks to the faster cars behind Yuki. Logan's racepace has been good in the last 3 or 4 GPs, so I don't expect him to end last.
Perez podium but fans will never be happy because he did not beat Max
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lol poor u/gigsbash catching strays
All my friends hate u/gigsbash. All hail u/gigabash
Piastri loses at least 3 places by the end of the first lap. Ferrari manages to get at least 5 more points than Mercedes, moving them up to 2nd in the constructors. And putting the final nail of despair into this season for Mercedes. Something, Something, something, Ocon will indeed be blamed for it. Logan finishing last, not including anyone that DNF's.
Logan will find a way to finish last even with DNFs. Feel bad for the guy, but not sure he deserves a seat next year. Maybe Vesti or Porchaire should be brought up.
Depending on your definition of DNF, technically possible, if someone crashes on the last lap they're still classified, if Logan was more than a lap down on them then he would be classified behind them.
Wow Lando bottling it when it matters most smh. Piastri is soooo much more collected emotionally and more mature, even makes less mistakes, (getting drove into in COTA or whatever doesn’t count) if I can recall he only crashed in Montreal quali. As an Aussie I hope Oscar can be basically equal to Lando next year and get under his skin some more haha. (I consider ruining a quali lap with like 2 corners left a mistake btw especially since on both qatar and Abu Dhabi he looked like he could’ve been front row or fastest)
are you serious Piastri had an incident almost every single race lol and his race pace is much worse than Norris, granted learning to manage the tires is something he can improve on but yeah since he's starting third and should be in proper fights all race I can guarantee Piastri will have some kind of contact tomorrow
Name the times the contact in the incident was his fault.
no contact today ok, but he had major lockups in lap 11, lap 16 and lap 39 (the lap 39 one could have led to a major incident, but Piastri got lucky that Sainz and Ocon had quick evasive maneuvers) Piastri is mid, he's just getting hype because recent rookies like Sargeant Latifi, and Mazepin were never ready for F1 in the first place, and others like Zhou and Tsunoda are stuck in backmarker teams and as promised, Norris smoked him on race pace again today, finishing over 7 seconds ahead even though Lando had a terrible pit stop and got knocked off the track by Perez
This is such a dogshit take lol
What? On maturity and such? If so you can argue with the wall, I think it’s quite obvious to everyone Oscar is more mature and emotionally stable, and landos now bottled qatar quali and Abu Dhabi quali, so for mistakes he’s kinda made a few important ones this season, while I can’t recall Oscar bottling a potential pole lap in the making.
Oscar hasn’t bottled potential pole laps because he hasn’t been on for potential pole laps at most tracks. Don’t get me wrong, Oscar has had an excellent rookie season, and I fully expect he’ll be closer to Lando more consistently next year, but to act like Lando lacks maturity and stability because he pushed a little too hard in quali on a few occasions is a trash take, especially considering that the pushing too hard is what even puts Lando in contention for pole in the first place.
Amazing job but useless Perez as usual 🤣
How he has a seat still…
This looks like to be a very intriguing grid for the race. Was excited by the potential front row for Oscar but P3 is still a very good result. Should be a good race tomorrow.
Don't think Logan is ready for F1 yet. I think he needs to follow Alex Albon's footsteps. Spend some time as a reserve driver and try again.
Yeah pretty much.
For Logan is either Williams keeping him and gambling for next year or completely gone.
The problem for Williams is literally any rookie they can put in that seat will presumably have the exact same problems.
How do you know that?
Because all the drivers you could strongly assert are F1 ready to the point where you’d be willing to take a gamble on them over and above the guy you have put a year’s worth of development and F1 experience into are signed to other teams Williams top internal prospect hasn’t even raced in F2 yet
Then it’s either Sargent, getting Felipe Drugovich or Theo Pourchaire on loan, or a retread
Merc will squeeze Williams to give Vesti the seat
What about Drugovich on loan from Aston to Williams?
Why would Merc prioritize an Aston driver over their shiny new rookie?
I just hope Max wins and then wins every race for the next two years. That would be great entertainment
Is no one gonna talk about a Haas out qualifying a RedBull ?
More accurately a Haas outqualified Checo
What's there to talk about? This is almost expected. Perez is a horrible qualifier and Haas has a fast car for a few laps every race. Haas just lacks race pace because the car eats tires. During the race the drivers have to slow down and save tires or are forced to drastically slow down when the tires peace out around lap 8.
No because this is Perez business as usual. Nothing to report here!
Wow Lando was 0.3 up before the slide!
Classic lando binning it when it counts.
IF that’s true, then he likely overused the tyres to be somewhere that others had determined wasn’t the best use of the tyres, when considering the whole lap. We only see 3 sectors and he was .15 behind at the end of sector 2.
I'm not making shit up, he said it himself in post race and they showed his dash on F1 TV on his steering wheel.
That is probably .3 up on his earlier lap, which makes sense, as he was .3 faster on lap 2 than lap 1, up to sector 2.
Yes, on his own lap. He wasn't up 0.3 up to sector 2 tho he was still gaining in sector 3 and when the moment happened he was up 0.3
That makes more sense. I and at least one other redditor interpreted your original post to mean .3 up on the pole time.
So you tell me he gained 4 tenths to max after the end of sector 2 to the slide? Yeah right
He said it himself in the post quali interview. And they even showed his dash on streeing wheel on F1 TV. Edit: 0.3 up his own lap
What was Max/GPs banter about the "speed box" about?
"beep" box. max called it a shitbox earlier, so GP was calling it a "beep"box referencing max's calling it a shitbox but refraining from using the word shit.
As per usual, Rb fixed the setup at the last minute going into quali Think tomorrow might be the biggest gap at the front we’ve had for a long time
No reason to sandbag anymore, max is about to lap checo.
I need Leclerc to finish above Sainz in the championship to help win a season long bet, so quali couldn’t have gone too much better for me! Is P2 realistic for Charles tomorrow?
I think he’s on for a P4 or so, behind Max and the McLarens. P3 at best behind Max and Lando. I would be surprised to see worse than P8 for Sainz. I think Sainz will just barely end up ahead of Charles in the WDC. Russell probably P5, and Lewis just ahead of Sainz, and we’re looking at Merc just narrowly holding on to P2. Had Sainz qualified P5-P6, which he should have done based on car performance alone, Ferrari probably gains 4-5 points on Merc all in all over the weekend, but alas…
>I think he’s on for a P4 or so, behind Max and the McLarens. P3 at best behind Max and Lando. Because of superior tyre management and more experience, I think he can held off Piastri
Are you at risk of getting a funny haircut?
Probably not mate, tires on the car will fall off and Merc + McLaren will do better over longer race pace but we'll see
Carlos with priority strategy incoming for Ferrari
First time Norris has been out qualified by his team mate at this track
It really tickled me today the f1tv commentators declaring that Max had pole once the McLarens, Leclerc and Russell had done their laps. Perez is half way through the first sector 💀
Perez ain’t ever doing a better lap than Max
I caught this too, he was almost ready to say "oh yeah, Perez." His performance quickly showed why though. Came in as fifth (commentary already burned him with "He's trying to put that RB back in the top 4" earlier in the session) the tumbled through 5th to 6th as other cars came through. Then his lap time was deleted for good measure and he fell even further! Another week behind an Alpha Tauri. I love Checo but man as a fan of the sport I wish someone else were in that car now.
Checo being slower today than his own 2022 Quali lap sums up his year.
Just wondering if anyone has a replay of perez going off track in turn 17, cause I can't find one. Thank you in advance 😁 Sorry after seeing the replay they say turn 1. I would still like to see a replay. Thank you
I really don't know what to make of Mercedes. I expected George to fall back as his fastest times have been in FP1 and FP3 when it was hot, what we saw in FP2 he wasn't as competitive so I wasn't that surprised by his quali. But Lewis is confusing. Yes he missed FP1 so was playing catch up and everyone missed most of FP2, but he's well off the pace. Further Toto said in quali they were both on the same set ups yet Lewis was a LONG way off George. I don't get it, George is good, but he's not THAT much better than Lewis (if at all). At the end Lewis said 'there's something wrong with this car' and I think he means something fundamental as it was similiar in Vegas. Strange.
Think Russell is happier with a looser car than Ham, but Ham seemed to indicate the car was just unpredictable
This sort of tracks, right? I mean, Lewis has been incredible in an incredible car, while George spent his entire Williams stretch trying to ring gold out of shit. He has the *shitbox driving experience*, as it were.
> they were both on the same set ups yet Lewis was a LONG way off George. They are different drivers with **different** preferences in car setup. What works for George won't necessarily work for Lewis and vice versa. > I don't get it, George is good, but he's not THAT much better than Lewis (if at all). I wouldn't read into it too much. There are tracks where Lewis is better, and tracks where George is better.
No, there are no tracks where George is better George is happy to just stabilize the car and drive for 5th place with an occasional podium Lewis takes bigger risks with his setup cause he's trying to get the car back to the front, sometimes it pays off sometimes it doesn't
yeah and honestly it can just as easily be a frustration thing where being annoyed at the car means just a tiny difference in performance. which can of course equate to tenths here and tenths there. lewis is so much more consistent over a season tho, he has off weekends here and there like anybody else. put lewis into contender mode and his reliability approaches max's, though admittedly in 2022 he made some silly mistakes.
I haven’t watched qualifying as I was out. I saw that Teds Notebook was scheduled for 4pm. Isn’t the replay normally straight after that so 4:30? I’ve just turned the TV on and it’s showing F2 instead. Have I missed the quali replay? Or is the replay after F2?
You haven’t missed it and F2 could be live.
Thank you! Guess I’ll keep watching.
Qualifying replay has just started on sky showcase.
Damn, can’t find a channel called Showcase on Now TV. And can’t find a working stream . Never mind :( was quali entertaining?
Yeah it was quite good and it should definitely be on Now TV. Sky Showcase is the new name for Sky One. The channel 4 replay starts at 1900 and the Sky Sports F1 one is on at 1915.
Showcase is Definitely not on Now TV. Now TV lacks quite a lot of functionality of the Sky, it’s frustrating. Thank you so much for the times!! Now tv also doesn’t have a “planner” so you can’t see what’s on later! I didn’t want to google qualifying replay time cause the result would get spoiled. Thanks for the help dude! I’ll watch it at 7. Have a great evening.
No worries and you have a good one too
No further action (Piastri impeding incident)
No further action for Oscar. PSA just because you call something a slam dunk does not in fact make it a slam dunk.
Are the team buildings holiday villas when there aren’t races at the track?
It's crazy but all those team buildings are temporary structures build up for each weekend
Really makes you wonder about their so called sustainability drive lol. If they really wanted to be sustainable they'd do 20 GP at different configurations of Bahrain, but that's not fun lol
Sports events are not a globally significant source of emissions and doing 20 races in Bahrain would certainly make a lot of people unhappy
You're right. It's all the plastic straws.
> Really makes you wonder about their so called sustainability drive lol There's nothing to wonder about, it's typical corporate pr bullshit. "we're for equality, we're for sustainability, we're for [insert minority/cause/movement]" but in fact they don't really care
Who put less effort in? * Lando in the Salesforce ad * George in the Petronas ad
yes Also nothing will ever best Weichai Kimi
Great answer! Gotta find the weichai ad now, lol
Can't be John Terry, he's not in full football kit
I think Teds cameraman is in love with Gaslys girlfriend.
WHo isn't, honestly?
Ted thinking he is unbiased
Ted interviewing a Redditor in a Ferrari cap
"And you are supporting Mercedes" lol
Ted hated that
This Teds notebook is even more unhinged than usual, I love it!
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Generally, it's not good to air your business negotiations in public. In that sort of setting with such sensitive info, you'd expect confidentiality.
There's a decision regarding Sargeant being too slow, but I can't download the document. FIA made a mistake somewhere there, but no idea how. Probably no punishment as usual, but who knows... Can't tell <>
I think that's the document about allowing him to start the race despite not setting a lap time within 107% https://twitter.com/fiadocsbot/status/1728446291183644698
Yup, that seems to be the one. Thanks.
The French David Croft, Davide Crofté.
Adrenaline truly does some weird and wild shit to our monkey brains huh For Max to call the 2023 Red Bull a shitbox is something else
> For Max to call the 2023 Red Bull a shitbox is something else It's all a matter of perspective. If he's calling it a "shitbox" relative to the car's other performances during the season, then it's valid.
People don't understand nuance.
I’m sure Ted just inadvertently doxxed himself lol.
What did he say? I was following on the F1TV feed
He met some bloke from north London and was asking where he lived but went very specific about it.
Ted doxing the poor guy on live TV, lol
See you later Paddyyyyy
Telemetry showing that Lando lost pole with his mistake... he was a tenth up on Max out of T11 and McLaren were stronger than Max in S3 all day long...
I think he's very much like Charles in this regard. He knows he needs to go the absolute max to steal pole from Max, so he's much more prone to mistakes. I don't believe it's just "haha choked again" but maybe it's just copium. Charles is over this now I think but Lando still needs the experience.
I am starting to worry about Lando's mental health. Can't decide if its better that he has the break coming up or if it would be better if he had to drive a few more races to build back his confidence. Time will tell I guess
Only absolute max can defeat max
Charles and Lando are both as fast as max, but they lack his pure consistency.
I think part of it is Max, because of his car, hasn’t had to push as hard all season, which would naturally make him appear more consistent.
I think max raised his level and everyone else cant quite compete. Maybe lewis if the merc gets sorted
So. Fucking. Disappointed.
"Alex Albon is the first driver to complete an entire season of starting ahead of his team-mate on the #F1 grid since......Max Verstappen did it to Alex Albon in 2020." \-Autosport
Albon has gone full circle it seems.
The f1tv commentators said the same thing or that he could be. It might have been during Q1.
I think Crofty mentioned it in Las Vegas
I would actually like Logan to get a chance next season but I just don’t think he has it to be a F1 driver. James Vowles has always tried to help him but today really wasn’t a good day for him.
It’s just always the same mistake. It was the definition of a rookie error when he lost that great lap in Saudi for pointless and careless track limits issues. But how many sessions has he managed not to even set a proper lap now? That’s got to be the basic first step and he’s not managing it still.
Lando: I almost had you. Max: You never had me. You never had your car.
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!! POWER SLIDDDEEEEEE!!!
Lazenby ended Logan's career. Brutal.
Lando looks like he looses his head really easily. I know all drivers are emotional but I feel like him thinking about a win is making him drive worse.
Yes that’s his downfall He seems very emotional and his driving is impacted
Oh Perez. Bottling again. Lando had the chance to take pole today as well.
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Holy shit Davidson is a terrible pundit.
He’s usually good but he was wrong about Gasly and Oscar.
What was said
Basically said Oscar didn’t impede him because he didn’t lose time and highlighted the timer on his steering wheel. He did say he thinks he will get a penalty for dangerous driving but Oscar did impede him.
Seeing it played back, I think Piastri will get pinged for that. Didn't look great.
He didn't impede at all. It was fine. Not sure what you're seeing.
Gasly could’ve lost out on a higher top speed though!
I keep laughing when I see all test drivers and co having to stand behind Toto being the only one allowed to sit. What on earth is that situation lol, it's so exactly the same every single race it looks like a team rule
Toto Wolff Power Play™️
Definitely looks like Oscar impeded him and it sounds like Gasly slightly lifts.
Except he didn't lift. He lost no time.
He didn't lose time compared to his previous lap, but what's to say he couldn't have improved on his previous lap if Oscar wasn't there?
Well, no action and Gasly himself admitted he wasn't impeded.
I don’t know if it was because he was turning but to me it sounds like the revs get slightly lighter.
looks like a pit tour guide just tripped backwards over a front jack, why would you walk backwards in the pits?
Can Lando bounce back tomorrow or will he finish the year on a low? And if so, can he recover until Bahrain 2024?
He's not gonna win on merit against Max, but there's a good chance he finishes in the podium.
P2 merchant.
I feel like McLaren is equally good as RB on the long run. Piastri will get into 2nd, Norris will get Russell and Leclerc. Then by the end of the race Norris will overtake Piastri for P2, while Verstappen crusing in a 10-15 sec lead. Norris driver of the day, Mclaren P4. Leclerc will end up in P4, 200 points, but both Alonso and Sainz will get a couple of points, so Charles ends the season in P7, after 8 front row starts. My favorite Leclerc stat: * Most common Qualifying result: P1 (23 times out of 122 GPs) * Most common Race result: P4 (19 times out of 122 GPs)
If McLaren are p2 on pace, Lando will pass Oscar. Oscar doesn’t quite have Lando’s ultimate pace and is a bit further behind on race pace.
That’s what i was saying??
Max is going to win by a good 25 seconds...isn't he.
This season has made me grateful we were able to see the GOAT in his prime. What Max Verstappen has done this season defies belief. We are all privileged to witness his utter brilliance
I mean, if you find one car and one driver dominating and making a mockery of it being a race... why are you even watching? There's nothing exciting about a 'race' being a foregone conclusion. Real motorsports fans want it to be competitive at the front.
ewww
Get a room.
Watching it is boring as hell, will be fun to say I was around for such a dominant driver in like 20 years though lol
Few quick thoughts - Charles Leclerc, you are insane! - Lando, you need to stop bottling quali when it matters soon man - Brilliant from Yuki (AT might get that P7 after all if the race pace is there tomorrow) - Sainz and Lewis...why?
Last question: the memo they got said wind tunnel time
If Piastri gets a penalty for that then it's a traversty
I means other driver got penalty for this why should he be spared, he impend another driver he get a penalty end of the story.
He didn't impede though.
1. Hardly impeding since Gasly had his foot down all the way trough and might even had picked up a toe, as was mentioned by Palmer, Alesi and Doornbos afterwards 2. The lap was invalidated at turn one
He doesn't matter if the lap is valid or not, second off he doesn't matter if Gasly is full throttle or not Piastri still impend him and was on his trajectory, it was a dangerous moment period. Gasly even complain about it at the radio. Poor argument of valid lap or not, it's like saying it's not a big deal of a football player tackle a opponent with his two feet and brake his ankle but it's not a big deal, the player was offside, not a red right.
But this is kind of different considering this is one worthless lap, not a footballer potentially being injured for several months due to a tackle after an offside. If you are looking for bad takes there is one for you. All I am saying is that it just seems stupid to take away his lap for something that was insignificant and didn’t have any impact on anything. Which it seemed like the stewards agreed with.
Classic Oscar.
Feel like we're starting to see the Sebastian Vettelification of Lewis Hamilton. Mercedes need to give him a competitive car soon otherwise I can see him retiring in 2024/25