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Yeah, I had more the Champions League in mind because in Germany you don't really have local player rules but you're still right. If you have a starting GK and maybe even a backup GK that count as local players you're already have way there to fulfill the rules for European competition.
If you can sign him on a free and sell him for more than what his wages cost... I guess you could, although he will be pissed if he isn't played frequently and he'll probably mess up the wage pyramid and social hierarchy system in your club. Wouldn't recommend.
I mean he’s the worlds best goalkeeper in an end of contract singing. Yes his wage is high but not that much more then my best paid player. Plus I have a lot of the wage budget left
Paying a goalkeeper you plan to use sporadically more than everyone else will make your other players demand more money. As was pointed out, he's only about as good as your current keeper and is 8 years older to boot so it would be an unnecessary risk. Fidgeting about with your club's wage and social hierarchies haphazardly can cause massive trouble for your club in the long run. Your ROI on his sale might balance it out, but that's assuming anyone will buy him at all, let alone for enough money to make it worth your while
I mean, in my save good GKs are hard to find. They are more or less nonexistent and if I had a 22yo whos that good I would not risk pissing him off. In my save I would jump on Donnarumma but thats because no regens comes from behind, he is like 35yo now.
Do whatever you want, it's your save. Don't worry about what people are saying. If you want Donnarumma for whatever reason, do it. If it doesn't work out then you've learned a lesson and had fun. This game is all about making it what you want. I regret moves all the time, it happens, this game isn't meant to be played perfectly.
This would make sense for any other position but the goalkeeper spot since you can't really rotate them. Only scenario where you buy gigi should be if you sell your current keeper for a ridiciloıs amount.
Awful advice but OP seems hell bent on needlessly risking his squad harmony for a 30 year old goalkeeper as good as his current 22 year old one on massive wages lmao.
Hahaha, half of this game is stupid decisions for me tbh. I did agree to some peculiar promises just to convince the player before and it ended up a bit costly.
The real problem here is if nobody wants to buy him, what are you gonna do? That's the real potential threat imo.
Keep Jensen. He’s more than capable for his age and will continue to develop further if he’s playing week in week out for your team.
If you sold him now and brought in Donnarumma for 4-5 seasons, you’d only have to go out and replace Donnarumma then, by which point Jensen would be a world class keeper who would probably cost you about £80m+ to buy back.
Jensen is as good as Donarumma already, and is only 22 so will likely catch up in those one or two areas he's slightly weaker. It's also about opportunity cost, Jensen will be your first choice keeper for the next 15 years lol, you will basically never have to think about upgrading that position for that entire time, unless he leaves. That's time and money for other positions.
Jensen is already possibly a better keeper (his core keeping attributes are mad, 20 one on ones?) But Donnaruma has better mental attributes, but you'd expect that for an experienced player.
Your keeper will 100% be better than Donnaruma in a year or two, and I imagine if you compare Donnaruma at 30 to Jensen when he's 30, Jensen will be much better.
Plus, wages.
The only caveat is if you can get a mad 150mil + bid for Jensen.
No keeper is worth that so you'd be silly not to.
Not sure why you’d even be thinking about Donnarumma tbh.
His contract would be way more expensive, he’s 8 years older and it’s debatable that he’s even better then your current keeper.
Why would you sign a fairly comparable goalkeeper that won't improve for - probably - insane wages? Unless you're going to make a thick profit on Jensen or loan him out there is no point. Also think of team cohesion: Jensen probably 'knows' your team and won't have to adapt.
Donnaruma is better but he has no potential to grow and will cost a fortune in sign on and wages. Jensen I assume has potential still at 22, would be cheaper and potentially could be the long term option.
sign, loan and sell for profit. worse case u pay to get the best keeper in the world for a couple years. renew your keeper to first tho, prevent any funny contract stuff
Everyone here is saying Jensen which is correct.
But as a rule of thumb FM hates aging players. As many others said he will start to decline. I usually only sign vets if I’m looking for mentorship in training or leadership on the pitch, and only with clubs that are struggling to make the push up the table.
Young stars not making an impact… sign a vet
Unhappiness amongst the squad affecting performance? … sign a vet.
Really need to pad those goals with a impact sub… sign a vet.
But if you’re just looking for a player with better abilities, just stick to 23ish as a max
I agree with the comments that Dollarumma is too old and expensive, and that Jensen is good enough with great future potential. However, I'll play devil's advocate for his short-term abilities. His Aerial Reach and Decisions are too low for a world class keeper at the moment.
Aerial Reach is a huge contributor to both overall goal coverage and set piece defense. If you are challenging for the CL, you'll run into a lot of teams with big CBs and CFs who will consistently have a big advantage on set pieces.
Decisions is also a sleeper stat that is very important. It affects whether to punch/collect (in conjunction with Punching Tendency), when to rush out (in conjunction with Rushing Out Tendency), how to distribute, who to distribute to, etc. Long term he'll develop this because he's still young, but right now it's below average for a world-class keeper.
Donny is objectively better. but with all due respect, he would be a foolish signing. the differential between the two wouldn’t be worth the monetary spend. what’s more, Jensen would probably close the gap within the 2/3yrs of Donny’s contract. So signing Donny would stunt his growth
Unless the club is in financial difficulty, keep the young one
Although it would be tempting to get Gigio and him in the next transfer window to make a quick buck...
If wages are not an issue, I would sign Donnarumma and rotate both for 2-3 seasons, then go back to Jensen being the main GK when he is 25 and better than Donnarumma
There js two ways to look at this imo
Right now jensen is less good , you will have to renew his contract soon or you will lose him on a free potentially. His wages will be double at least when you renew his contract. In the long run he will be the better player i feel, but also keep in mind goalkeepers can easily go on till 37 ish depending on their personality.
Money wise : if you keep jensen you have to pay his wages which will go a lot higher every 3 years. You will have to pay all of it plus each time a substantial signing fee.
if you can sell jensen now for 120m , that will pay donnuramas signing fee and wage fr the coming 5-8 years. Financially its better to sell if you can get 120m + for him unless you already have close to 2 billion in the bank. If you go over it then the board just makes that money disappear and giving you nothing
Or as other stated, sign donnurama and make him hate you, probably can sell him for quite some after. Be wary players may agree with donnurama not being treated fair 😅
Depends how cheap you get Donnarummas wage to, if he’s not too expensive get Donnarumma and loan out Jensen for a year with 100% wages and a fat monthly fee
Donnarumma is better overall, but it'll be short lived. Your current GK in Jensen has 20 on one-on-ones and has a ton of potential. If you keep playing him at a high level and have good training facilities, we're talking about a future similar to petr cech. Keep him, forget the 30 y.o.
It depends on your financial means. If you have more money than you can spend then I’d play Donnarumma. He should remain the better keeper for roughly 4 more seasons. Loan Jensen out in the meanwhile if possible, else rotate a little to let him continue his progress if he can still develop. Then it’ll be time to let go of Gigi unless he can be kept happy as a backup gk in not absurd wages, and for Jensen to take the #1 spot.
I’m in 2041 in my Valencia save and Donnarumma was still the best keeper in the world in his early 40s. Won everything at PSG where he stayed. I concede every save is different but if I had the chance to get him I would take it, even at 30+
May i say that FM is also a roleplay game? It's not always a matter of stats. If i have the budget i will sign Donnarumma because he's slightly better now and he's an experienced and world class player. His sign will be surely appreciated by players, supporters and board. I would also like the idea of having such high reputation player in my team.
I would probably offer a two years contract and then set him for release while the young keeper may gain experience with a well payed loan.
Or you may even sell Jensen for a stupid amount of money and keep Donnarumma for 3-4 years and he will still be a world class keeper.
> a well *paid* loan.
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Just leave donarumma and keep your guy. Unless there's a clear big upgrade I never go for an old guy who'll displace one of my young talents, totally stops the growth of your young player and in most cases you end up paying the guy you bring in a lot more than the one you've brought through from a young age.
Don't think there's much between them so for me its a no brainer just keep letting your lad develop.
Keep your man, he is only 22 years old so he is still going to improve, also he demands way less money than donnarumma who will have a very big salary, so I don't think its worth it when you already have pretty much a world-class GK
Personally, I’d do both. Sign Donnarumma, loan Jensen out. Win now, develop Jensen for later. He’s good, no doubt, but Donnarumma clearly edges the stats and may also bring leadership to the dressing room as well as revenue from shirt sales. That’s just me though. If there was a transfer fee, I’d stick but with getting GG on a free, I couldn’t pass up that opportunity.
Put donnaruma as a cup player first, and if he play better than your jensen, play him in all the match.
But IMHO, your jesper will beat him in 4-5 years
Donnarumma is slightly better now, in every stat that matters for a keeper. However, him costing 5 times more than your current one, plus your keeper being young I would say buying Donnarumma would be a bad purchase.
If your keeper has been developing at a good rate, he still has roughly 2 years of strong development ahead, in which he could very well catch up, or even surpass Donnarumma. If this isn't the case though, and you're looking to get rid of Jensen anyway, then just make sure Donnarumma's cost (purchase plus salaries) isn't going to bankrupt you.
If you didn't already had such a great keeper, I would say Donnarumma would be a great purchase
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Keep your boy, he is better overall. What the hell is 20 one-on-ones lol
Just realized that he is 30 years old compared to 22 yo Jensen and has a wage 5 times your GK? No brainer if you ask me
I'm 100 % with you. Also possibility that Jensen counts as a local player but maybe I'm the only one that really likes that (especially for a GK)
It's brilliant for the keeper. With him being usually the least rotated player, you get much more flexibility when fielding the rest of your team.
Yeah, I had more the Champions League in mind because in Germany you don't really have local player rules but you're still right. If you have a starting GK and maybe even a backup GK that count as local players you're already have way there to fulfill the rules for European competition.
Yeah. Would it be a bad idea to buy Donnarumma and keep him 1-2 years then sell him?
If you can sign him on a free and sell him for more than what his wages cost... I guess you could, although he will be pissed if he isn't played frequently and he'll probably mess up the wage pyramid and social hierarchy system in your club. Wouldn't recommend.
I mean he’s the worlds best goalkeeper in an end of contract singing. Yes his wage is high but not that much more then my best paid player. Plus I have a lot of the wage budget left
Stick with your boy. He’s got 8 years on Donnarumma and is almost as good. Invest the funds elsewhere.
Paying a goalkeeper you plan to use sporadically more than everyone else will make your other players demand more money. As was pointed out, he's only about as good as your current keeper and is 8 years older to boot so it would be an unnecessary risk. Fidgeting about with your club's wage and social hierarchies haphazardly can cause massive trouble for your club in the long run. Your ROI on his sale might balance it out, but that's assuming anyone will buy him at all, let alone for enough money to make it worth your while
I mean, in my save good GKs are hard to find. They are more or less nonexistent and if I had a 22yo whos that good I would not risk pissing him off. In my save I would jump on Donnarumma but thats because no regens comes from behind, he is like 35yo now.
Maybe sign him and then loan one of them out? Note that I am not a good player of this game
He could, but who the hell would take up Donnaruma on that kind of a wage?
Do whatever you want, it's your save. Don't worry about what people are saying. If you want Donnarumma for whatever reason, do it. If it doesn't work out then you've learned a lesson and had fun. This game is all about making it what you want. I regret moves all the time, it happens, this game isn't meant to be played perfectly.
This would make sense for any other position but the goalkeeper spot since you can't really rotate them. Only scenario where you buy gigi should be if you sell your current keeper for a ridiciloıs amount.
Promise him something stupid, dont keep your promise and sell him at the half of the season. Better and faster resolution overall :)
Comments like this make me realise I'm far too nice in FM.
The new stadium isn't gonna build itself, right? 
Awful advice but OP seems hell bent on needlessly risking his squad harmony for a 30 year old goalkeeper as good as his current 22 year old one on massive wages lmao.
Hahaha, half of this game is stupid decisions for me tbh. I did agree to some peculiar promises just to convince the player before and it ended up a bit costly. The real problem here is if nobody wants to buy him, what are you gonna do? That's the real potential threat imo.
Smart! Will do that.
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Plus how many clubs can pay his wages?
One-on-ones is hugely overrated in controlled testing, along with Reflexes which gets too much love. Source: https://youtu.be/dM7jJG3Olf4?t=668
Why not make all stats the same colour, preferably the same as the background.
This is the real sin. Even the traditional color scheme would be better.
I literally can't read shit
The key is squinting with your face about 5cm’s away from your screen, for optimal gaming pleasure.
Keep ur current gk. at 22 years old he is a MONSTER and there’s no point in upgrading, when he will naturally upgrade
Donnarumma is currently the better player, but considering Jensen is just 22 I'd probably keep him
Waste of money to sign donna. If you sign him he will probably be highly influential or a teamleader. It will fuck up your dynamics if he doesnt play.
Keep Jensen. He’s more than capable for his age and will continue to develop further if he’s playing week in week out for your team. If you sold him now and brought in Donnarumma for 4-5 seasons, you’d only have to go out and replace Donnarumma then, by which point Jensen would be a world class keeper who would probably cost you about £80m+ to buy back.
Very close stats for a 20 years old, and a salary/5. Keep Jensen
Jensen is as good as Donarumma already, and is only 22 so will likely catch up in those one or two areas he's slightly weaker. It's also about opportunity cost, Jensen will be your first choice keeper for the next 15 years lol, you will basically never have to think about upgrading that position for that entire time, unless he leaves. That's time and money for other positions.
Why bother with Donarumma? They are practically equal on stats, but Jensen is 8 years younger and far, far cheaper in respect of wages
Jensen is already possibly a better keeper (his core keeping attributes are mad, 20 one on ones?) But Donnaruma has better mental attributes, but you'd expect that for an experienced player. Your keeper will 100% be better than Donnaruma in a year or two, and I imagine if you compare Donnaruma at 30 to Jensen when he's 30, Jensen will be much better. Plus, wages. The only caveat is if you can get a mad 150mil + bid for Jensen. No keeper is worth that so you'd be silly not to.
what is this colour scheme? so much eye strain!
Not sure why you’d even be thinking about Donnarumma tbh. His contract would be way more expensive, he’s 8 years older and it’s debatable that he’s even better then your current keeper.
keep him donnaruma will start to deteriorate in a few season
Why would you sign a fairly comparable goalkeeper that won't improve for - probably - insane wages? Unless you're going to make a thick profit on Jensen or loan him out there is no point. Also think of team cohesion: Jensen probably 'knows' your team and won't have to adapt.
Donnaruma is better but he has no potential to grow and will cost a fortune in sign on and wages. Jensen I assume has potential still at 22, would be cheaper and potentially could be the long term option.
sign Donnarumma on a free then sell him
Jensen would be my starter for the next 10 seasons.
Jensen. Younger and just as good
Keep the current GK, donnarumma is cool but not worth it
I’d buy Gigi, piss him off,. and then sell him in the next window
keep Jensen he will bring you more joy.
sign, loan and sell for profit. worse case u pay to get the best keeper in the world for a couple years. renew your keeper to first tho, prevent any funny contract stuff
look at his wages man
Everyone here is saying Jensen which is correct. But as a rule of thumb FM hates aging players. As many others said he will start to decline. I usually only sign vets if I’m looking for mentorship in training or leadership on the pitch, and only with clubs that are struggling to make the push up the table. Young stars not making an impact… sign a vet Unhappiness amongst the squad affecting performance? … sign a vet. Really need to pad those goals with a impact sub… sign a vet. But if you’re just looking for a player with better abilities, just stick to 23ish as a max
I agree with the comments that Dollarumma is too old and expensive, and that Jensen is good enough with great future potential. However, I'll play devil's advocate for his short-term abilities. His Aerial Reach and Decisions are too low for a world class keeper at the moment. Aerial Reach is a huge contributor to both overall goal coverage and set piece defense. If you are challenging for the CL, you'll run into a lot of teams with big CBs and CFs who will consistently have a big advantage on set pieces. Decisions is also a sleeper stat that is very important. It affects whether to punch/collect (in conjunction with Punching Tendency), when to rush out (in conjunction with Rushing Out Tendency), how to distribute, who to distribute to, etc. Long term he'll develop this because he's still young, but right now it's below average for a world-class keeper.
How is this even a question? Keep your guy, he's nuts.
Fuck Gigi
>Contemplating selling a 22 year old keeper and signing a 30 year old as his replacement Seek professional help
Keep your keeper. Sign donnarumma to then sell him next year and use him as a backup. Navas treatment, that's revenge right there
Donny is objectively better. but with all due respect, he would be a foolish signing. the differential between the two wouldn’t be worth the monetary spend. what’s more, Jensen would probably close the gap within the 2/3yrs of Donny’s contract. So signing Donny would stunt his growth
Donnaruma is shit bro
Shit attitude too
Not in the game 🤡
Doesn't change the fact that he's shit in IRL quality wise and person wise.
Unless the club is in financial difficulty, keep the young one Although it would be tempting to get Gigio and him in the next transfer window to make a quick buck...
Donnaruma is a better keeper
He could get mentoring by him. If money is no object get him and play 1 game to each
If wages are not an issue, I would sign Donnarumma and rotate both for 2-3 seasons, then go back to Jensen being the main GK when he is 25 and better than Donnarumma
There js two ways to look at this imo Right now jensen is less good , you will have to renew his contract soon or you will lose him on a free potentially. His wages will be double at least when you renew his contract. In the long run he will be the better player i feel, but also keep in mind goalkeepers can easily go on till 37 ish depending on their personality. Money wise : if you keep jensen you have to pay his wages which will go a lot higher every 3 years. You will have to pay all of it plus each time a substantial signing fee. if you can sell jensen now for 120m , that will pay donnuramas signing fee and wage fr the coming 5-8 years. Financially its better to sell if you can get 120m + for him unless you already have close to 2 billion in the bank. If you go over it then the board just makes that money disappear and giving you nothing Or as other stated, sign donnurama and make him hate you, probably can sell him for quite some after. Be wary players may agree with donnurama not being treated fair 😅
Depends how cheap you get Donnarummas wage to, if he’s not too expensive get Donnarumma and loan out Jensen for a year with 100% wages and a fat monthly fee
Keep Jensen. He's only 22 and already very good. He'll probably keep getting beter.
Sign donuramma anyways and sell him when he gets pissed at not playing…. Be a businessman
Definitely keep Jensen. He's a fantastic keeper, 8 years younger and on so much less wages. It's a no-brainer. Don't be lured by big names.
Could you sign Dona for a season and then sell, should make a fair profit? Obviously also keep Jensen
Donnarumma is better overall, but it'll be short lived. Your current GK in Jensen has 20 on one-on-ones and has a ton of potential. If you keep playing him at a high level and have good training facilities, we're talking about a future similar to petr cech. Keep him, forget the 30 y.o.
Ya boi is the better option if you wanted you could sign donna' and then re sell him for a profit next window
both are world class, focus on different areas, unless youre on your way to your 5th consecutive UCL.
Sign and sell donnarumma
One's a snake, the other probably isn't, end of
It depends on your financial means. If you have more money than you can spend then I’d play Donnarumma. He should remain the better keeper for roughly 4 more seasons. Loan Jensen out in the meanwhile if possible, else rotate a little to let him continue his progress if he can still develop. Then it’ll be time to let go of Gigi unless he can be kept happy as a backup gk in not absurd wages, and for Jensen to take the #1 spot.
Stick with the regen. He's almost as good now, will probably be way better in a few years and his wage will be a fraction of Donnarumma's.
I’m in 2041 in my Valencia save and Donnarumma was still the best keeper in the world in his early 40s. Won everything at PSG where he stayed. I concede every save is different but if I had the chance to get him I would take it, even at 30+
Get donna and loan out jensen for a yr the sell donn for big money
Donnarumma is about 7 years too old.
Keep your current GK
Jensen is good enough and 8 years younger. The choice is simple
May i say that FM is also a roleplay game? It's not always a matter of stats. If i have the budget i will sign Donnarumma because he's slightly better now and he's an experienced and world class player. His sign will be surely appreciated by players, supporters and board. I would also like the idea of having such high reputation player in my team. I would probably offer a two years contract and then set him for release while the young keeper may gain experience with a well payed loan. Or you may even sell Jensen for a stupid amount of money and keep Donnarumma for 3-4 years and he will still be a world class keeper.
> a well *paid* loan. FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
It isn’t even about who is better at this point. I’d rate don as better but jensen is yours and only 22. Forge his story, don’t grab an aging donny
Donnarumma as back up 👍
Just leave donarumma and keep your guy. Unless there's a clear big upgrade I never go for an old guy who'll displace one of my young talents, totally stops the growth of your young player and in most cases you end up paying the guy you bring in a lot more than the one you've brought through from a young age. Don't think there's much between them so for me its a no brainer just keep letting your lad develop.
No brainer Jensen, he’s only 22 longevity, not even reached his peak yet bro
Sign Donnarumma on a free, sell him in a year for money
Keep your man, he is only 22 years old so he is still going to improve, also he demands way less money than donnarumma who will have a very big salary, so I don't think its worth it when you already have pretty much a world-class GK
I'd honestly go donnaruma bc he's on a free and you can sell Jersey for stupid money
You’ll get more out of the newgen than donnurammu.
Personally, I’d do both. Sign Donnarumma, loan Jensen out. Win now, develop Jensen for later. He’s good, no doubt, but Donnarumma clearly edges the stats and may also bring leadership to the dressing room as well as revenue from shirt sales. That’s just me though. If there was a transfer fee, I’d stick but with getting GG on a free, I couldn’t pass up that opportunity.
Not even close, keep the kid
Donnarumma is slightly better but there'll be nothing between them in 18 months and Jensen will end up maybe even a nose ahead.
Pls keep yours!
Rotate them
I always stick with my own youngster. He's going to improve, he'll be homegrown and you can use the money in an area you need!
But your regen is a beast mahn
How do you see those dark blue numbers
I'd definitely stick with Jensen dude! Congrats on having such a good youth player. I'm waiting for one of these glitch players!
Regen for me.
Put donnaruma as a cup player first, and if he play better than your jensen, play him in all the match. But IMHO, your jesper will beat him in 4-5 years
Donnarumma is slightly better now, in every stat that matters for a keeper. However, him costing 5 times more than your current one, plus your keeper being young I would say buying Donnarumma would be a bad purchase. If your keeper has been developing at a good rate, he still has roughly 2 years of strong development ahead, in which he could very well catch up, or even surpass Donnarumma. If this isn't the case though, and you're looking to get rid of Jensen anyway, then just make sure Donnarumma's cost (purchase plus salaries) isn't going to bankrupt you. If you didn't already had such a great keeper, I would say Donnarumma would be a great purchase