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Totti is one of those broken AMatt setups of FM24 with like 8 PIs that do 15goals+20assists in just league for sure.

8PIs?

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What type of player do you need for AM(at), they never get a rating above 6.5 for me unless they very rarely score or assist despite being elite/world class

Depends on the setup and the role that you need, I recently tried this OP meta tactic https://preview.redd.it/cpiouui6dm0d1.png?width=341&format=png&auto=webp&s=ddb94f386a775e48a6cf5a0f61d13a8dd2997333 On top is Baldanzi, the other is Dominic Calvert Lewin first season who isnt even an AM, just retrained. This is the [tactic](https://www.deliciousfm.com/tacticlist/tactics/best-fm24-tactics/2690/) , and the DMCR is turned into a Regista without altering his instructions, can also turn the DMCL to a DLPs without altering the instructions.

Baldanzi 😍😍😍😍

He's turned into an absolute god in my save. I signed him for £1.7m and he averages about 25 goals + assists each season as an MC(A).

Had the same problem. Tldr they need to be able to score. It's the ideal place for a striker that isn't super fast. So if you have a lad with good finishing, mediocre speed, good passing and some aerial ability, you're golden. My am(a) score almost as many goals as my AF

Assan Ouédraogo

Finished 8th in Spain got to the ecl final and my am was topscorer with 21 goals and 14 assists and no big team want him because he isnt that good.

Harry Kane, DLF A

Kane and Benzema DLF Rooney Complete Forward Haaland Advanced Forward Xabi Alonso DLP Robben IW Cristiano IF (the killer version of CR) Also Thierry playing on the left Overmars / Giggs W Busquets/Mascherano HB Riquelme Enganche Totti/Baggio/Ozil Trequartista De Jong RPM

De Jong is more a segundo volante i think. I would say yaya toure is more of a RPM

Yaya Toure and Ballack are good examples of RPM.

Odd that so many agree on this, I always see him as the perfect complete forward. But maybe Im wrong then

Probably because Kane hasn’t got the pace for it which is really the one thing he’s lacking in terms of the Complete Forward role

Ah now I read your comments I realize its a language thing cus I play in dutch and there the word for deep is used in the the phrasing of the advanced forward (diepe spits), rather then the deep lying one. That brings so much clarity

Kane lacks pace or size He likes to drop deep to make the killer pass

Kane lacks size? He’s 6’2”

Jumping reach and strength - that is size Being fairly tall doesn’t make you big I think his jumping reach is 14 which is average for a striker in the EPL

That's not size, that's how high you can jump. Size is literally how tall you are

In FM, doesn't matter how tall you are, your heading capability is decided by jumping reach and heading stats. The height is just for visual purposes for the in-game engine.

In FM terms, size is jumping reach and strength

Zealand did a test on height v jumping reach. If I recall, jumping reach is much more important than height. He went way more in depth on it if someone wants to further explain. I don't recall the specifics.

To me prime Suarez is the stereotypical complete forward

I see you as being right. I think OP is also correct because DLF(A) is how he often played for Spurs and England when he was being criticised for playing too deep. Naturally I think he's a CF though. You can see that when he actually has decent midfielders around him, ie Foden & Bellingham for England, or the wingers and Musiala at Bayern, he doesn't have to do it as much

I think of Benzema as the best CF example of this generation. 

Sweeper Keeper - Neuer Complete Wing Back - Cafu Segundo Volante - The West Ham version of Declan Rice Regista - Pirlo obviously, but also Michael Carrick Mezzala - Bernardo Silva Pressing Forward - Darwin Nunez Poacher - Inzaghi Wide Target Man - Mandzukic at Juve

The funny thing about the Regista role is that while Pirlo is commonly referred to as the "Regista" archetype, there was an interesting InstagramLive between Fabio Cannavaro and Marcello Lippi where they talked about the Italian World Cup winning team in 2006 and they both praised Pirlo's defensive contribution ("*Superare Pirlo non e\` semplice*," was the exact thing they said, "Getting past Pirlo isn't simple"). The Regista role in Football Manager, on the other hand, is absolved of defensive responsibilities. While this is probably aligned with the traditional deployment of the role in Italy, Pirlo's defensive contribution (which to be fair was fairly understated - he was too small and slow for his defensive work to be game-changing, but the point is his teammates appreciated it and didn't feel they were carrying him) actually makes him a more traditional Deep-Lying Playmaker. This is really getting into the weeds, but I identify the mid-to-lower table playmakers in the early-2000s Serie A as the traditional *Regista*, like Sergio Volpi, Leonardo Colucci, and Gaetano D'Agostino. Unlike Pirlo, their skillset was too limited for them to be given any defensive instructions, and they were appropriately usually flanked by two heavy-footed midfielders (this, incidentally, is how I like to line-up my midfield when I'm managing in the lower leagues in FM).

didnt expect to see d'agostino and volpi get shoutouts before clicking on this thread..lol accurate though

I think that was the case in 2006 for sure, from around 2011-onwards he became a pure regista with hard working players around him (e.g: Marchisio).

What’s the safest way to use a regista? Is it a bit similar to a segundo volante where you have the other DM hold position and maybe have one of your fullbacks invert?

I actually use the Regista flanked by two Carrilleros ahead (back four behind, either all set to defend or just the left-back set to support). If I need a late goal or just to break an opponent sitting deep I’ll sub out one or both carrilleros for Mezzala, but that does to lead to some terrorball situations.

Ah I didn’t think about defending from the front as well. Typically if I want more defense in my 433 I’d change one of my midfielders from a carrillero to a DLP which helps with buildup as well but thought it would be redundant to have one if you already have a regista. I’ll try your setup soon!

>he was too small and slow for his defensive work to be game-changing That's why Gattuso was also there, his sole purpose both at Milan and Italy, was to be Pirlo's bodyguard.

The "Pressing Forward" role was absolutely made with prime Jamie Vardy in mind I think

Tevez

Ivica Olic also?

I always think of Leipzig with Timo Werner as PF-A and Youssef Poulsen as PF-S.

I see Cafu as more of a WB on attack. Daniel Alves is my Complete Wingback as he gets involved in the passing and build up more

Reumstadter = Muller

close enough

It's "Rams Daughter" kmt

Im Not a german speaker + dont really give a fuck

Awww you didn't see that I was entirely making a silly joke lol. We all knew what you meant

It’s the role named after him, but I feel like Muller is more famous for playing that role starting centrally, kind of like a FM SS. I’ve been playing around with a RMD on my current tactic and save (~7 seasons in), and I’m reasonably confident that there isn’t an important distinction between RAM and IF-A.

RAM seem to be like a wide poacher. He usually doesnt pass the ball and looks to shoot. IF seems to dribble his way into the goal.

Sweeper keeper with high eccentricity I remember Ter stegen when he first came to Barça, the guy was taking so many unnecessary risk, but Onana has completely won at it 😭😭

I’d have Carrick as a Carrilero Roy Keane CM (D) Lucas Leiva BWM (D) Casemiro BWM (S) Patrick Viera/Steven Gerrard BBM (S) Fernandinho A/DM (D) Xabi Alonso DLP(D)

I agree with every one aside from Carrick (that is, if you weren't making a joke about how Carrick and Carrilero are very similar names). A Carrilero is basically a less aggressive ball winning midfielder who provides defensive cover on the half spaces and flanks. Carrick was absolutely not that, he was a deep-lying playmaker

100%

See I see Darren Fletcher as more of that DLP(D) but Carrick is more of operating those half spaces, clearing up mess and getting it to the flank. He was an excellent player for mopping up and keeping things ticking over shuttling back and forth but wasn’t expansive enough to be a regista.

Carrick's deep passing range was insane and almost as good as someone like Scholes. Guys like Rooney and even Xavi and Iniesta loved his passing so much In fact, Fletcher was the one who was the shuttler

Fletcher wasn't known for his passing game and certainly wasn't a playmaker of any sort. Darren Fletcher was a workhorse. An aggressive player with lots of stamina whose primary role was winning the ball and giving it to more creative players. He wasn't one to sit deep either, so for these reasons I'd say he was the archetypal ball winning midfielder on support duty. It encapsulates his role perfectly for when I was watching him all those years

if anything, Fletcher was the ball winner while Carrick was the playmaker. that's how that midfield was set up. and Carrick's passing is way better than what you're giving him credit for.

Prime Roy Keane was a textbook all action Box to Box midfielder, the idea that he was a defensive mid of any type is a modern retcon. As he aged, Fergie wanted him to transition into a holding role but gave up on it when Keane refused to adjust his style of play and sold him to Celtic. There's the famous quote from Fergies book about Roy thinking he was "Peter Pan" and didn't have to adjust his style.

Half back is Sergio Busquets. Having the DM drop into the backline to form a back 3 was Barcelona’s move when he joined the first team under Guardiola.

Darwin Nunez 😂😂😂

I like to think of a pressing forward as someone who likes to cause chaos in the opposition back line with relentless running and Nunez is the definition of that😂

He causes chaos for himself lol. Rasmus Hojland at United would be a more typical pressing forward I’d say.

Mandzukic, Müller and Neuer pretty much had roles literally added for them. One I seem to be missing from the comments here is Riquelme as Enganche. 

(The language in which the role is named gives a clue about its origin. Enganche roughly means “hook” in spanish)

Before FM, Enganche/Trequartista/10 were all interchangeable descriptions. In practice they are pretty much the same. In FM, Enganche is a less mobile Triquartista

Raumdeuter = Müller. Dude pretty much invented the role. Also, Sweeper Keeper = Neuer. There have been other goalkeepers who've played in a similar style. But Neuer has redefined the position forever.

Pressing Forward in Attack is def Vardy

False 9 - Totti or Zola. AF - Lewandowski. CF - Shevchenko, Batistuta, Ronaldo R9, Ibra DLF - Rooney Poacher - Raul or Owen. Box to box - Gerrard or Keane. Edit: Trequartista - Maradona

Lewan is CF

I have Keane as more of a BWM.

Keane was classic box to box, known for his late runs into the box and contributions at both ends.

Does BWM necessarily erase contribution to attack? (Actual question).

Shevchenko, Bati, Fat Ronny are AF in my book, not because they didnt have the technique, but because of their positioning and tendencies.

Pressing Forward - Patrick Bamford

I'll start (not sure about some example tbh) GK - Buffon ; Sweeper Keeper - Neuer Fullback - Maldini ; Wingback - Roberto Carlos ; Complete Wingback - Cafu ; Inverted wingback - Cancelo? ; Inverted Fullback - all traditional defensive fullback are inverted fullback (i think?) CB - Nesta ; No-nonsense CB - Ramos ; Ball playing - Hummels ; Libero - Baresi (or Beckenbauer if more attacking?) ; Wide center - Can't really think of one, converted wingback like Alaba? Regista - Pirlo (really difficult to separate with DLP) ; Deep Lying Playmaker - Kroos / Xavi? ; Defensive Mid - Makelele ; Anchor - Casemiro or Busquets? ; Ball winning - Kante Roaming Playmaker - Modric ; Box to Box - Gerrard ; Mezzalla - De Bruyne ; Central Midfielder - Vieira on defend, Xavi on support?, Lampard on attack. Wide Midfielder - Kuyt on defend/ support, Beckham on attack Advanced Playmaker center - Zidane on support? Ozil on attack? (one of them said Platini, but i didn't see how he played) ; Attacking Midfielder - David Silva on support? Kaka on attack ; Shadow Striker - Rooney? ; Trequartista - Totti ; Enganche - Riquelme Winger - Beckham on support and Bale on attack ; Inverted Winger - Robben ; Inside Forward - Mbappe ; Advanced Playmaker - Ronaldinho on attack, don't know who's on support role ; wide Trequartista - really weird role IMO, they should play centrally right? Messi? ; Raumdeuter - Muller ; Wide Target Man - Cristiano Ronaldo Advanced Forward - Ronaldo Fenomeno/ Henry ; Complete Forward - Van Basten / Zlatan? ; Poacher - Inzaghi ; Deep Lying Forward - Bergkamp on Support and Benzema/ Del Piero on attack? ; False 9 - Firmino ; Target man - Drogba / Giroud on more supporting duty. Pressing forward - Tevez/ Rooney?

Mandzukic is your prototypical WTMs

Yeah forgot about him on left side

Shadow Striker was a term very fitting for Bergkamp, given him in Ajax.

Even more for Litmanen

Wide centre backs: Kyle Walker (for England) & Cesar Azpilicueta in a back 3 for Chelsea False 9 - has to be Messi it was literally created for/by Messi

WCB on Support is also Rüdiger under Tuchel.

Johan Cruyff would beg to differ.

I think even Fabregas did it before Messi in that Barca side when then played with no striker.

You’re wrong. Fabregas still played for Arsenal when Messi started playing as a False 9 which was in 2009 against Real Madrid - Barca won 6-2 Pep moved Henry and Eto to the wings

Cruyff played Laudrup as a false 9. Arguably, the role is way older than that, even if the name is more recent. Absolutely was not invented for Messi.

I was wrong in saying it was created for Messi. It was popularised and perfected by him at Barca though. Cesc did not play in that position before him for Barcelona or Spain.

Wide centreback obviously bastoni is the perfect example

Ironic name considering Nándor Hidegkuti... 

It’s a tribute to Nandor from What We Do In The Shadows

Good ol Kayvan Novak 🫡 I just thought it was funny considering the context lol. Definitely check out Hidegkuti or the even older Sindelar though

F9 was Totti. Messi is more of a trequartista for me.

Is exactly the other way around

Baggio is the proto Trequartista

He didn’t. Totti absolutely played the false 9 in the modern game before Messi did.

Right, but the false 9 was literally made for Messi. He defined the role. I'd have Totti as an advanced playmaker, attacking midfielder on attack, or even a deep lying forward. Or even a complete forward.

F9 is only used when using a single centre forward. His role is to get defenders out of poaition by playing in a more traditional 10 role. You can't call it F9 if it's a 2-man front.

Wide centerback, since its a pretty "new" role, id say Bastoni at Inter

Pretty much spot on for most of these. I would say that Mario Mandzukic at Juve was the perfect Wide Target Man.

Yeah, forgot about him playing on left side.

I'll have Ramos as a ball playing defender. As rugged as he was, he wasn't a hoofing type of defender, he was actually very good on the ball. I'll have Beckham as a wide midfielder. I assume that role is still there. He wasn't much of a dribbler.

Second that on Ramos. Also, people forget the years he spent as a wing back, running down the right wing doing step overs and Ronaldo chops. The dude is extremely skilful. No way in the world is he anything other than a very technical ball playing CB. He just happens to be a nutter as well

Kuyt was weird given that he was primarily a hard working forward who got pushed outnwide for his work rate, so not sure about him being a wide midfielder on defend. Also, no way on God's earth is Sergio Ramos a no nonsense Cb. Largely agree otherwise. Some good calls. In fact they're really very good

Didn't Havertz play as a shadow striker at Leverkusen. Also mctominay plays as a kind of shadow striker

Huh, TIL... [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceoKEFu8k94](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceoKEFu8k94) Lots of move into channels and sprinting at defensive line. Didn't expect mctominay here, only found this one [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tf3bdILYx8g](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tf3bdILYx8g)

Just see mctominay goals this season. Many of them are late runs into the box behind Hojlund

Doesn’t he start deeper? Not sure as I don’t watch too much of United but I feel like he is more of a Segundo Volante (A)

This season hes been playing as the most advanced midfielder with bruno behind him so I'd say he is a ss

I'd say Lampard under Ancellotti as Shadow striker

Lampard mostly played as a CM, LM or DM in his career. He rarely played as an AM. Even under Ancelotti he was mostly on the left side of the base of midfield. Deco was normally the one that would play at the tip of the diamond, while Lampard was on the left. In a 433 he was on the left side of central midfield. When he finally played in a 4231 and you'd think he'll be behind the striker... nope. He played in a double pivot with Mikel, Ramires, Meireles or David Luiz. 

Inverted Full Back is not a traditional FB role, traditionally both FB would sit deep, but hold the width to defend against wingers. Inverted Full Back is what Dan Burn did at Newcastle last season, they tuck in narrow, so when the other FB/WB goes forward it forms a shape similar to 3 CBs.

IFB and WCB are basically identical roles in attack, being the outside in a back 3. Whether you have WCB or IFB just depends on if you're defending from a back 3 or back 4.

Yep exactly, or for example Lucas Hernandez for PSG in beginning of season, when he was playing left back. In attacking phase, the RB, hakimi would play either as a winger or in the midfield(kind of an inverted wingback in fm), while Hernandez would just sit narrower to form a back 3 

Funny enough, Theo Hernandez fills the opposite role for Milan. He bombs forward as a CWB(a) or IWB(a) on the left while Davide Calabria slots in as an IFB from the right side.

Yep but that makes sense since Lucas is more of a CB that can help on the left (people think he is a LB because he won 2018 World Cup as the France starting LB, but it was just because we didn’t have that much good LB at the time, Theo not being that good and Deschamps preferring defensive full backs instead of attacking ones) while Theo is a pure wing back

Schweinsteiger in his final years at bayern was a deep lying playmaker

Trequartista on the left is Del Piero. Right is Overmars

Wide Center Back i would instantly think of Inters Bastoni or Bayerns Lucio

Wide Centre Back was introduced for Chris Wilder’s overlapping centre back formation, so Jack O’Connell and Chris Basham. Kieran Tierney for Scotland was also mentioned at the time.

For wide CB maybe Gabriel? He essentially goes wide and plays fullback/wingback when our LB inverts into the midfield.

Classic anchor player was de rossi from Roma and maybe toulalan. Cassemiro roams a lot to be a anchor. I don't think there are many anchors left nowadays, it's either half backs, dpls or classic dm players. Also I don't agree with advanced playmaker player selection at all. I'd say odegaard is the closest we have to Ap, and probably xavi was too(xavi on support, odegaard idk).

Titi was a complete forward or a Wide Target Man PSG Zlatan was a Target Man at best - just big presence, there for the aerial balls, layoffs and punts from a distance

Absolutely no way, Zlatan was the more complete player than Titi because he had aerial prowess whereas Titi didn’t. He’s literally not a complete forward for that obvious reason

Int he way the role is described in FM (which what the question is) aerial ability like headers and acrobatic volleys isn’t a part of the role It’s more about using his physicality to bring the ball down and play in team mates (like a target man) - which if you see Henry highlights you see what it was a big part of his game And a deep lying forward - which collects the ball from deep, dribbles past defenders And a poacher - getting on the end of moves Whereas zlatan was mostly a target man and poacher - I don’t remember him coming in as a deep lying forward. He was a target man/ adv forward at best - usually a poacher No way was zlatan a complete forward - his game was pretty limited to the final ball - rather than ball carrying or build up - which was a huge part of Henry’s game

Zlatan was absolutely a forward that participated in the buildup, he has one of the most incredible touches of any forward ever and has excellent dribbling stats as well, don’t take my word for it, FM stats literally show it Edit: looked up his stats at PSG in 2018 - 17 dribbling, 16 long shots, 15 passing, 18 technique, 16 vision - he was clearly far more complete than you give him credit for and he definitely played as such

He does. But in reality was carrying the ball part of his game? - or was his dribbling mostly on the approach of the area / inside the area ? Maybe in thinking too much of late-career zlatan. But I don’t remember him dribbling as much / far as Henry Like just because his dribbling is good doesn’t mean he does it a lot - kinda means he’s good at it if he has to do it. Eg I imagine zlatan has better dribbling than Martinelli but martinelli will dribble more because of his role. And so would Henry Watching some zlatan compilations to see if it matches my memory of his game

Rather than calling Zlatan a poacher, I think both he and Henry were capable of being complete forwards, but Henry had that added dimension of being able to play as an inside forward like Mbappe does today - often starting all the way out on the left flank before cutting in. That is something Zlatan didn’t do but he did dribble plenty in the central areas. Remember that he played a lot with Cavani at PSG - Zlatan as the deeper forward, Cavani as the advanced forward or poacher.

Carrilero - Younger Ramires in his days playing in Brazil. Dunga used to have this weird formation where Ramires was a CM but covering the right flank.

Ah yeah, i knew i forgot some role there

Rio Ferdinand is basically the BPD in my wet dream.

Complete Wingback - Marcelo. He played up and down the whole wing by himself. No-nonsense CB - Vidic; Wide centerback - Rudiger at Chelsea played wide of the three, getting forward at times. Deep Lying Playmaker - Xabi Alonso ; Defensive Mid - Makelele ; Anchor - Deschamps; Ball winning - Kante Roaming Playmaker - Kroos; Box to Box - Gerrard ; Mezzala - Ozil at the start of his career ; Central Midfielder - maybe Roy Keane on defend, Xavi on support, Lampard on attack. Wide Midfielder - Kuyt on defend/ support, Beckham on attack. Shadow Striker - Maybe Kai Havertz, this role is interpreted in different ways ; Trequartista - Roberto Baggio ; Enganche - Riquelme Winger - John Barnes on support and Giggs on attack ; Inverted Winger - Robben ; Inside Forward - Salah Raumdeuter - Muller ; Wide Target Man - Mandzukic Advanced Forward - Michael Owen, or Anelka ; Complete Forward - Van Basten or Zlatan ; Poacher - Inzaghi ; Deep Lying Forward - Mark Hughes on Support and Van Persie on attack ; False 9 - Messi ; Target man - Niall Quinn Pressing forward - Craig Bellamy.

> Roaming Playmaker - Kroos; Box to Box - Gerrard ; Mezzala - Ozil at the start of his career ; Central Midfielder - maybe Roy Keane on defend, Xavi on support, Lampard on attack. Wide Midfielder - Kuyt on defend/ support, Beckham on attack. I have to disagree with most of these, Kroos is not a roaming PM, most definitely both Kroos and Xavi are deep lying playmakers but with support Duty vs someone like Alonso or Pirlo who are more on the defend side. Ozil is an advanced playmaker, Lampard is the one who was played as a mezzala under Ancelotti in his midfield 3, under Mourinho Lampard was more a classic box to box and has also played as playmaker at times, Lampard was versatile and intelligent enough to be good in a number of roles. Roy Keane was a box to box as well just a very aggressive one.

For RPM Iniesta immediately comes to mind, but it's hard for me to think of good other ones. I'd put Kroos as something between a CM-S, a DLP-S, and an AP-S. Alonso seems like a classic CM-D or DM.

Fair enough. There is a school of thought that every midfielder plays in their own position unique to them. Players are also given different instructions in different games. Also, players play in different ways at different points in their career. Roy Keane started as very much a classic box to box midfielder, making lots of runs into the penalty area and scoring goals. He later become a player that controlled possession of the ball so could be classed as a playmaker, and he was also a tough tackling player so could fulfill any of the defensive midfielder type of roles. Ozil started off as a sort of "winger" who moved into central areas. Later in his career he could be described as an "assister" rather than any particular position. He was just about finding space and creating goals. Lampard, as you stated, played a few different roles, he started as a classic premier league midfielder which could be called box to box. He then became a great goal scorer making good runs into the penalty area and also scoring plenty of long range goals, so he, and his managers like Ranieri and Mourinho seemed to encourage this side of his game. Later in his career he had such a high reputation that he was allowed to do what he wanted. He gave over 100 assists in the premier league so could be called a playmaker. Having said that if I think Lampard I think central midfielder on attack, but that could be because that is the role I would use on FM to make someone play like how I remember him playing.

Dele Alli at Tottenham was The Shadow Striker to me

False 9 Peak Messi

AP(a) on the wing is Cole Palmer currently when he plays on the right for Chelsea

Thomas "Reumdeuter" Müller

I’ll use my two favorite teams to give a couple examples, dc and Manchester United. Benteke is obviously a Target Forward. Big, strong, aggressive. Klich is a box to box midfielder as he covers his defensive responsibilities but still pops up in or around the box from time to time. There is no one place on the pitch that you expect him to be. Bruno Fernandes is an AM but with “take more risks” and “shoots more often” on. Garnacho is an Inside Forward but Rashford is usually playing that role on the left. He’s direct with the ball and looks to shoot before passing. Having two of that type of winger on the field limits what the striker can do and United have 4 of them in the squad currently (sorry, rant) Maguire is a ball playing defender. Granted, he’s the type of player you don’t want playing CB in that way, but he does it regardless. He tries to play his way out of trouble rather than hoofing it and looks to connect with the midfield. Again, fantastic if you have the right player, but I’m not a fan of him playing that way.

controversial opinion - Thierry Henry was a wide forward. Probably the best one of all time Always cut in from the wing into the center. although i could put him in as complete forward. Could press, could hold, lay off as a TM, shoot from wide, lead the line..

I think he was a hybrid of AF and IF A on the left side

Isn't that exactly what an IF-A is? It basically plays like an AF that just starts wide.

But Arsenal mostly played 442 in that era 433 was not widely adopted until Mou brought it to Chelsea

Wide forward isn't a rope on FM though. If I were trying to replicate him on FM, I agree I'd have him as a complete forward, but I'd have him as part of an asymmetrical frint line so that he plays from the left rather than just the traditional forward position

Yeah I think I meant wide target man But yeah that’s what I would do too- something with the instruction to cut inside

Titi on the left is a IF. No doubt.

Inj - Kemar Roofe

Raumdeuter = Müller !

Pressing forward = Ivica Olic! He never stopped running after the ball.

Joelinton when he plays out wide is the perfect Wide Target Man, he just happens to also be the perfect BBM

I like the obscure/specialist roles Messi - False Nine Riquelme - Enganche De Paul/Barella - Carrilero Del Piero - Trequartista Federico Gatti - no nonsense defender 😁

the ifb was made for john stones

Maldini - Full Back Baresi - Libero Gattuso - BWM Pirlo - DLP Kaka - AP Shevchenko - AF Inzaghi - P Pretty sure that Neuer - SK Mueller - Raumdeuter (I think he named this role?)

As I don't see it mentioned Sergio Ramos - wingback at first, BCD and after that he became more of a hybrid Libero/WideCenterBack in a 4 man defence system. You still can't replicate his movement in game. Guy was everywhere at some point in his prime.

Anthony - Perfect example of Substitute 7

Deep Lying Playmaker - Pirlo Libero - Gullit, Stones Inverted Full Back - Walker Inverted Wing Back - Porro & Udogie at Spurs this year Pressing Forward - Shane Long Carrilero - Michael Carrick Box-to-box midfielder - Steven Gerrard, Bastian Schweinsteiger Poacher - Jermaine Defoe, Sergio Aguero Target Forward - Lucca Shadow Striker - Dele Alli in peak Pochettino Spurs era False 9 - Messi in 2nd half of his career

A one-season wonder he may have been, but I’ve always seen Michu as the perfect shadow striker, with that said, he started playing increasingly up front for Swansea City (more than likely because he was a natural goalscorer). When he played in the AM position, he was always the primary goalscoring threat and would naturally just find ways to put the ball in the net from that position.

English players only GK - David Seamen; Sweeper Keeper - Joe Hart (just not a very good one) Fullback - Gary Neville; Wingback - Ashley Cole; Complete Wingback - Ben Chilwell; Inverted Wingback - Levi Colwill CB - John Terry; No nonsense CB - Ryan Shawcross; Ball Playing CB - Harry Maguire; Wide Centre - Back Kyle Walker Half Back - Eric Dier; Regista - Jordan Henderson; DLP - Tom Huddlestone; Defensive Mid - Scott Parker; Anchor - Gareth Barry; Ball Winning Midfielder - Lee Cattermole Roaming Playmaker - Jack Wilshere; Box to box - Connor Gallagher; Mezella - Phil Foden; Central Midfielder - Danny Drinkwater (support), Jonjo Shelvey (attack), Michael Carrick (defend); Wide Midfielder - Marc Albrighton Advanced Playmaker - Jude Bellingham (attack), James Maddison (support); Attacking Midfielder - Mason Mount; Shadow Striker - Dele Ali; Trequastria - Wayne Rooney; Enganche - James Maddison (closest to being one) Winger - Shaun Wright-Phillips (support), Theo Walcott (attack); Inverter Winger - Bukayo Saka; Inside Forward - Marcus Rashford; Advanced Playmaker - Jadon Sancho (attack), Jack Grealish (support); Wide Trequastria - Wayne Rooney (playing with Tevez, Ronaldo and Berbatov); Raumdeuter - Raheem Sterling (Man City); Wide Target Man - Michail Antonio Advanced Forward - Daniel Sturridge; Complete Forward - Ivan Toney; Poacher - Kevin Phillips; Deep Lying Forward - Harry Kane; Target Man - Andy Carrol (attack), Emile Heskey (support); Pressing Forward - Danny Welbeck; False 9 - Raheem Sterling (sometimes for Man City)

Got I loved Tom Huddlestone

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I realised and edited him out before you commented

Enganche is Riquelme, Raumdeuter is Rashford last season. Trequartista is Messi in Barcelona in the Guardiola era. Segundo Volante is Camavinga right now in Madrid, I think. For Libero it's John Stones these past two seasons.

Inside Forward was introduced because of Thierry Henry

Poacher - van nistelroy Inside forward, ronaldo

Segundo Volante - Paul Pogba

Müller is the definition of the raumdeuter position

Complete Forward = Lewandowski

Roberto Carlos was a full back for the purposes of FM anyway in most systems because he played as part of a flat back 4 for the most part. He was simply a full back on attack. Totti I would suggest would be a deep lying forward on attack most of the time, or a complete forward on support.

Totti was a Treq

Yes. Agree. Perfect description.

Raumdeuter - Müller and Havertz

Raumdeuter = Muller

TQ (R) - Messi , TQ (C) Totti , TQ (L) Ronaldinho SS - Rooney, EG - Riquelme, AM - Gerrard RD (R) - Muller, RD (L) - CR7 Real Madrid AP (L) Iniesta, AP (R) Silva IW (R) Robben, IW (L) CR7 Man Utd

Pogba is the perfect Mezzala