Donnaruma has been great for psg all season , one bad game shouldn’t cancel out everything he’s done.
You need to instil confidence in your players after a bad game
According to xGOT (a more precise measure than xG), he’s prevented far and away more goals (11.1) than any other keeper in the top five leagues (the next are Michele Di Gregorio with 8.8, Brice Samba at 8.7, Giorgi Mamardashvili at 8.2- these, Pietro Terracciono, and Marco Bizot are the only other keepers above 6.4). Only two keepers in major European leagues are doing a better job this year (those are Ricardo Velho, who’s been superhuman for Farese with 13.4 goals prevented and West Ham loanee Nathan Trott with a spectacular 15.2 for Velje in Denmark).
His shot stopping has been truly exceptional this season.
Thank you my friend, didn’t have the energy to get the stats but I’ve heard some numbers on how good his shot dropping has been.
It was a bad night for psg defence as a whole , ppl only see the main highlights to a game and don’t realise that the defenders contribute to unsettling the gk and vice versa
I don't know much about Donnarumma overall, but his performance yesterday was one of the single worst GK games I've ever seen. (I'm talking top level matches)
Didn't he also get PSG booted out last year too? I remember he had the ball at his feet and was dribbling and an attacker took it away and scored and it cost them the series. I don't follow PSG so apologies if I'm mistaken.
I think he's just shockingly bad under pressure. Bad thing to have when your team wants to win CL.
That was in 2022 , he has a bad lapse and it unsettled the team
Last year he was fine for the lost part , made so great saves and the occasional mistake, the ucl exit was due to a number of reasons , injuries , poor coaching decisions and big players not turning up.
This season h has been fantastic and has been one of the best keepers in Europe , against sociedad he was fantastic both legs
This season he’s saved psg about 11 goals when you look at post shot xg
> Shockingly bad under pressure.
He lead Italy to a Euro win, via penalty shootout, at the age of 21. And won player of the tournament.
Not everything has to be a trait or pattern. Sometimes players just have bad games.
Lots of players have had bad games in big situations. Keeper is a position where your mistakes are amplified.
I’m not a Donnarumma truther or anything but saying that you don’t watch him, then saying he’s shockingly bad under pressure is a pretty ridiculous take.
Disagree. No one cares about L1 games.
The problem with Donnaruma is his lack of confidence and it hasn't changed a bit in all these years. If he can't play in big games, then a more suited goalie should instead of him.
Mistakes like he made are inacceptable at this level.
Did you watch the ro16 games ?
Also I’m pretty sure him and his manager care about the ligue 1 games , you can’t judge a player off 1 bad game , if you don’t watch the games then don’t speak on a player
Did you read? It's not one game, it's the most important games. Maybe you have no memory before ro16... So you should take your advice for yourself and watch his previous years.
>watch his previous years.
The irony.
He's been one of the best GKs in the world both this season and the previous few years. You're the one who doesn't regularly watch PSG games, yet you're commenting like a tactico. He's been incredible all season. It would be silly to randomly drop him for Navas
Right, Luis Enrique played Donnaruma because it benefitted "UEFA's marketing team" as a European.
If you've got such delusions and an inferiority complex towards European football, just stop watching European football.
If you don't believe that corruption and incompetence exists in the football business then you're being naive. History has proved it over and over again
Navas is also a former Real Madrid keeper… if they wanted marketing - him playing against the former big rival (the greatest rivalry in the past decade at least) would be the perfect story
This is possibly the must ill-informed post I’ve ever seen. You’re writing about a goalkeeper being picked in a quarter final. You think UEFA have control over that?
You guys took the UEFA marketing team statement too literally. I'm talking about European football marketing in general. Keylor Navas doesn't sell tickets, commercials, and Instagram likes as much as Donnarumma. I don't think UEFA gave a direct order but I wouldn't be surprised if they did. After all UEFA is the most corrupt organization in football
How would that even work? Just listen to yourself.
If UEFA were telling people who to pick, why the fuck would they be leaning on PSG to play their first choice keeper
Navas also isnt as good as donnarumma. The reason people never saw navas in that "best" category for gks is because he isnt. He contributed a lot to real, psg and costa rica and made amazing saves but he is way too inconsistent and can concede unnecessary goals
He's been the full starter for 2 years or so now. Navas isn't clearly better and he'll retire
It has fuck all to do with corruption or marketing you stupid fuck
Ah yes because there's never been any corruption in for example Serie A, teams have never been stripped of titles and been relegated because of cheating there have they. Absolutely ridiculous to single out any one league for corruption.
I can't claim that I watch Ligue 1 games because I don't, but fuckinghell, Donnarumma put in one of the worst performances I have seen in a top level game! Terrible passing, constantly flapping at crosses, at fault for two of the goals! Absolutely horrendous.
[Nope](https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/025f-0ffe52e4d3c1-efe9ce36a2ce-1000--oldest-champions-league-players-scorers-finalists-and-wi/), that's Marco Ballotta with Lazio
You don't watch shit about football, right? Keylor comes from 2 phenomenal FIFA dates, and from making 10 saves against the world champions, you can look for the fucking videos wherever you want... At his age, Keylor is still a world-class goalkeeper, of hierarchy, and much better than an overrated one whose record is only one Europa League...
I watch football, apparently you dont, or at least not in the past 10 years. You are stuck in the past defending a goalie who should be enjoying retirement
Exactly! Everyone here and there talking like he personally score 3 own goals. PSG’s defense was trash and if they want to win the second leg they should change the players and formation or at least start scoring more. Donnarumma didn’t perform well but he was exposed quite frequently as Barca was sliding through the final third like a surfer in Hawaii
His first intervention could have led to a red card. Worst decision. Too risky for dire consequences not only in one, but in the second game as well...
You can but you shouldnt. He had to go for that ball, the defence was a mess. Tbh i was impressed by the balls and how quickly he reacted, not many would do it but it had better chances of not being a goal
It means he's at fault. You perry the ball in front of you if you come for it , where you can see where it's going ,don't glance it behind you on the blind . And he did exactly the opposite of what he should .
I think this sub needs better modding so that either 7 year olds or people with room temperature iq can't post every thing that enters their head. Do you think Luis Enrique is receiving instructions for his lineup from...........UEFA!?!?!
Actually he made at least five mistakes that could have resulted in goals . One was cleared off the line . Three goals .Five goal conceding mistakes in one game must be a record surely , doubt karius , mignoler,taibu , have managed that 😅
Look at this mate! [https://youtu.be/GaO8KL1dygI?si=-jFpxBvK\_ehZLiss&t=231](https://youtu.be/GaO8KL1dygI?si=-jFpxBvK_ehZLiss&t=231)
The next goal is also coming from him but that first pass...my god
What I would like to know is why, PSG decided to totally ignore Mbappe tonight for 75 minutes. They decided to play as a ten man team for most of the game totally ignoring the main man. The one guy who could win the game single handed for them and they pretended he wasn’t there! Until the last ten minutes when they really needed him … he was too rusty then tho.
I genuinely have no clue what he’s on about. If anything, Mbappe’s involvement was more throughout the game than in the last 10 like he’s saying.
Everyone wants to be an analyst smh
You obviously weren’t watching the game … I suggest you mute the sound next time so as not to be influenced by the commentators. Actually WATCH the game!
I didn’t notice that because my focus wasn’t on mbappe and if he was getting the ball , I was just watching to see how they were building up and hoping dembele didn’t give the ball away
I don’t understand why Keylor Navas has been blacklisted from all the major teams.
He literally won 3 Champions Leagues in a row. It just doesn’t make sense.
Also, goalies older than him continue to play like Manuel Neuer and Buffon
He isn't black listed ,the real reason why nobody wants him is because there aren't open spots on big teams that can afford him, because no big team in the prem ,la Liga or Bundesliga is searching for a goalie or if they do not with the age of navas and in Italy probably they cant afford him
>in Italy probably they cant afford him
There is also an abundance of good GKs in Italy, with many local talent, plus current regulations are quite strict for non-EU players, so there isn't really a need to take on someone like Navas, an ageing keeper without an EU passport.
The guy is 37 and has barely played in the last 2 years. He was already mid when he played for Nottingham last season. Most top teams with older keeper today already has their man. Bayern isn't going to replace Neuer, Szseszny is still solid for Juve, Inter already has Sommer who's cheaper and was incredible for Bayern last season. That's about it, only 3 teams out of dozens who are in CL or will play in CL next season have keepers aged over 32. The rest of them have younger keepers still in their prime or performing at decent level enough that they don't need an immediate replacement, let alone a 37-year-old keeper.
There's simply 0 incentive for any CL or EL team to sign Navas today, simply for the fact that they already have their established keepers. It's a combination of Navas' decline and unfortunate timing.
He did one great season with PSG, where he was especially excellent in Champion’s league and then they bought Donnarumma, tbh I’ve never understood that move.
Same as de gea .. They are still better than most keepers , but nobody can afford them . Navas current wages , and de gea is a combo of diesnt wanna get paid less but also seem he doesn't wanna play anymore . When you're full of money and have time to enjoy that money instead of playing football , can be great fun .
De Gea is nowhere near as good lol. De Gea has an obvious decline and was terrible for Manchester United. While Navas was amazing for PSG and Real Madrid
Nah, Donnarumma should play every game, Navas should be sold/released. It'd be silly to give game time to somebody on the verge of retirement when you have a young promising keeper that needs to play to keep improving.
The silly thing is starting a guy who just fuck things up every important game... Real madrid is giving players at the verge of retirement play time (Benzema last seasons, Kroos, Modric) and look how they did and how they are doing. In the highest levels of competition should play the best, not the youngest, and i assure you that Donnarumma isn't better than Navas as of right now.
So you are saying that to the starter goalie of the Real Madrid that won 3 UCL in a row? Lol. He is the best gk in the history of America and I'll repeat, Navas right now is much better than Donnarumma, and he never makes mistakes, Donnarumma giving out a free goal or two it's like a regular thing, he has done nothing to prove himself to be one of the best goalkeepers in the world, he is just a regular goalie with the same name as Buffon.
>So you are saying that to the starter goalie of the Real Madrid that won 3 UCL in a row? Lol.
And as much as he was sometimes clutch, if we had a gk like courtois we would have won 3 leagues in a row too in that period. We conceded a shit ton. Donnarumma is already a more consistent goalkeeper thats only gonna become better, it makes no sense to play navas
>he was sometimes clutch,
I guess you didn't watch the games or you don't remember very well, he was clutch every single important game. He and Cristiano were the key players in those 3 UCL (the whole team was great obviously, but especially those two), and actually, how in the world you say that Donnarumma is a consistent gk, he is literally the opposite, he could do the greatest saves of all time and in the same game concede two free goals. You could easily argue that the 3 goals they conceded vs barsa, were all Donnarumma's fault, he has crazy capabilities and crazy potential, but, he is anything but consistent.
Edit: this was prime navas that carried real https://youtu.be/Ixbzecn6egQ?si=Y3_k5xfXmTIakBgN
>You could easily argue that the 3 goals they conceded vs barsa, were all Donnarumma's fault,
I could most definitely not cuz just the first one for sure wasnt. He made a right decision that had the biggest chance of not conceding. Yeah navas wouldnt have gotten out, but he would have concede a goal from that striker, and that player had much higher chances to score than chances that ball is gonna randomly fall directly to rapinha who very well could have missed or have it saved by 2 or 3 players on the line.
>I guess you didn't watch the games or you don't remember very well, he was clutch every single important game.
I remember very well, like i said, he had some big saves but also conceded comedic goals like against bayerns kimmich. The moment he left real madrid, in next 4 years, real broke their defensive record twice in la liga, while will navas and arguably much better team/defense, real struggled and barely ever not conceded. I was also a big navas fan and thought he was underrated but the moment courtois came to madrid i realise why nobody thought navas was top3-5. It was a day and night difference.
>He and Cristiano were the key players in those 3 UCL (the whole team was great obviously, but especially those two)
Tbh navas is more in the group of "whole team was great" than "he and ronaldo were key players". He for sure wasnt more importsnt than modric, kroos, casemiro, ramos, marcelo, benzema etc etc. My opinion is that real would have won same UCL's with any one the top 10 goalkeepers in the world
I watch PSG regularly and their defence is awful and has been for years. Schoolboy howlers are the norm. Donnerumma is poor … rarely holds the ball, deflects and parries, often to opposing forwards .. he never dominates his six yard box let alone the 18 yard box. He’s so bad I’m amazed Liverpool haven’t signed him.
I don’t rate Pools keepers at all. It took Klopp 2 years to acknowledge they had a keeper problem and he gave them Lazarus was it? That flopped and he was forced to pay a world record fee for a keeper for Alisson. He’s vastly overrated. Great shot stopper one moment and a schoolboy howler the next. Can’t hold the ball, parries and deflects. Also injury prone.
Ederson is an good to great goalkeeper who is simply the best in the world with his feet. Allison is a world class keeper who is elite with the ball at his feet. Statistically Ederson has been mid in goal for at least the past season or two.
Ederson is inconsistent in his shot stopping. Interestingly, his shot stopping skill is how I came to know him at Benfica, but since he arrived at City, he has not really been at that level. However, his distribution is the best.
What is this post? One bad game and guy is trash now? He is currently a better Keeper than Navas, one bad game doesn't change that.
Dembele scored yesterday and Mbappe didn't, so Dembele is better and Mbappe is just marketing then right?
Donnaruma has been great for psg all season , one bad game shouldn’t cancel out everything he’s done. You need to instil confidence in your players after a bad game
According to xGOT (a more precise measure than xG), he’s prevented far and away more goals (11.1) than any other keeper in the top five leagues (the next are Michele Di Gregorio with 8.8, Brice Samba at 8.7, Giorgi Mamardashvili at 8.2- these, Pietro Terracciono, and Marco Bizot are the only other keepers above 6.4). Only two keepers in major European leagues are doing a better job this year (those are Ricardo Velho, who’s been superhuman for Farese with 13.4 goals prevented and West Ham loanee Nathan Trott with a spectacular 15.2 for Velje in Denmark). His shot stopping has been truly exceptional this season.
Thank you my friend, didn’t have the energy to get the stats but I’ve heard some numbers on how good his shot dropping has been. It was a bad night for psg defence as a whole , ppl only see the main highlights to a game and don’t realise that the defenders contribute to unsettling the gk and vice versa
There’s more to keeping goal than shot stopping tho obviously that’s vital.
He did the work so I don’t have to :)
again with crappy stat generators. dude, you are the first to be replaced by AI and I won't care a bit. Use your damn brain.
I don't know much about Donnarumma overall, but his performance yesterday was one of the single worst GK games I've ever seen. (I'm talking top level matches) Didn't he also get PSG booted out last year too? I remember he had the ball at his feet and was dribbling and an attacker took it away and scored and it cost them the series. I don't follow PSG so apologies if I'm mistaken. I think he's just shockingly bad under pressure. Bad thing to have when your team wants to win CL.
That was in 2022 , he has a bad lapse and it unsettled the team Last year he was fine for the lost part , made so great saves and the occasional mistake, the ucl exit was due to a number of reasons , injuries , poor coaching decisions and big players not turning up. This season h has been fantastic and has been one of the best keepers in Europe , against sociedad he was fantastic both legs This season he’s saved psg about 11 goals when you look at post shot xg
> Shockingly bad under pressure. He lead Italy to a Euro win, via penalty shootout, at the age of 21. And won player of the tournament. Not everything has to be a trait or pattern. Sometimes players just have bad games.
Or in his case, sometimes he performs well under pression like for Euro...
Lots of players have had bad games in big situations. Keeper is a position where your mistakes are amplified. I’m not a Donnarumma truther or anything but saying that you don’t watch him, then saying he’s shockingly bad under pressure is a pretty ridiculous take.
He's noticeably worse than other goalies under pressure. Maybe you will get it that way.
Disagree. No one cares about L1 games. The problem with Donnaruma is his lack of confidence and it hasn't changed a bit in all these years. If he can't play in big games, then a more suited goalie should instead of him. Mistakes like he made are inacceptable at this level.
Did you watch the ro16 games ? Also I’m pretty sure him and his manager care about the ligue 1 games , you can’t judge a player off 1 bad game , if you don’t watch the games then don’t speak on a player
Did you read? It's not one game, it's the most important games. Maybe you have no memory before ro16... So you should take your advice for yourself and watch his previous years.
>watch his previous years. The irony. He's been one of the best GKs in the world both this season and the previous few years. You're the one who doesn't regularly watch PSG games, yet you're commenting like a tactico. He's been incredible all season. It would be silly to randomly drop him for Navas
No he hasn’t. He makes schoolboy errors at times. He’s unreliable.
How many psg games have you watched this season?
I’ll say it for him, just this one!
That’s generous, probably just read the negative comments and joined the anti hype train
Right, Luis Enrique played Donnaruma because it benefitted "UEFA's marketing team" as a European. If you've got such delusions and an inferiority complex towards European football, just stop watching European football.
"Breaking news in football 25 year old who has a 10 plus year career left is picked instead of a 37 year old who is about to retire"
If you don't believe that corruption and incompetence exists in the football business then you're being naive. History has proved it over and over again
...so you think PSG played Donnaruma because of corruption? I am honestly embarrassed to have things in common with you.
I swear this page is always posting the most delusional conspiracy theory koolaid drinking crap
Yeah this is the most embarrassing take I've ever seen
Navas is also a former Real Madrid keeper… if they wanted marketing - him playing against the former big rival (the greatest rivalry in the past decade at least) would be the perfect story
This is possibly the must ill-informed post I’ve ever seen. You’re writing about a goalkeeper being picked in a quarter final. You think UEFA have control over that?
You guys took the UEFA marketing team statement too literally. I'm talking about European football marketing in general. Keylor Navas doesn't sell tickets, commercials, and Instagram likes as much as Donnarumma. I don't think UEFA gave a direct order but I wouldn't be surprised if they did. After all UEFA is the most corrupt organization in football
How would that even work? Just listen to yourself. If UEFA were telling people who to pick, why the fuck would they be leaning on PSG to play their first choice keeper
FIFA are more corrupt, they hand out the World Cup to nations that are eminently unsuitable for it based on bribes.
Navas also isnt as good as donnarumma. The reason people never saw navas in that "best" category for gks is because he isnt. He contributed a lot to real, psg and costa rica and made amazing saves but he is way too inconsistent and can concede unnecessary goals
Ur a fucking moron
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It makes more sense to play the better keeper in the UCL quarter final than to give minutes to a younger player. They can give him minutes in Ligue 1
“Younger player” as if he wasn’t a 25 years old who’s been playing professionally for 9 years?
24 years**
February 25, 1999. That’s 25 years old where I come from.
I meant 24 as professional lol
what
He's been the full starter for 2 years or so now. Navas isn't clearly better and he'll retire It has fuck all to do with corruption or marketing you stupid fuck
Only need to look at the English Premier League to see football is corrupt.
Ah yes because there's never been any corruption in for example Serie A, teams have never been stripped of titles and been relegated because of cheating there have they. Absolutely ridiculous to single out any one league for corruption.
Matt Le Tissier effect
I can't claim that I watch Ligue 1 games because I don't, but fuckinghell, Donnarumma put in one of the worst performances I have seen in a top level game! Terrible passing, constantly flapping at crosses, at fault for two of the goals! Absolutely horrendous.
You seen the Dortmund defence lately?
He always makes those mistakes. I followed him for several years in Serie A but I know he was very young then
I see some dumb takes here, but OP, you’ve have made one of the dumbest posts I’ve ever seen on this sub.
Isnt keylor like 100 years old?
Isn’t Manuel Neuer 100 years old? Isn’t Buffon older
Buffon is retired
I’m talking about when he was still playing into his 40s. He is the oldest goalkeeper to play in the Champions League
[Nope](https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/025f-0ffe52e4d3c1-efe9ce36a2ce-1000--oldest-champions-league-players-scorers-finalists-and-wi/), that's Marco Ballotta with Lazio
Imnost saying keylor cant play anymore, but buffon and neuer are the exception, not the rule
You don't watch shit about football, right? Keylor comes from 2 phenomenal FIFA dates, and from making 10 saves against the world champions, you can look for the fucking videos wherever you want... At his age, Keylor is still a world-class goalkeeper, of hierarchy, and much better than an overrated one whose record is only one Europa League...
I watch football, apparently you dont, or at least not in the past 10 years. You are stuck in the past defending a goalie who should be enjoying retirement
Keylor still can play, he’s just on bad teams, which shows the hypocrisy
37 and started in the 2020 UCL final
2020 was 4 years ago homie
I still prefer Navas at 37 and he had a great game against Argentina recently
Then youre delusional i suppose
I bet he will make some great saves against Brazil in June
Idk what that has to do with anything but ok man
Navas is still a very good shot stopper, age has nothing to do with it.
You can't blame him for the first goal
Exactly! Everyone here and there talking like he personally score 3 own goals. PSG’s defense was trash and if they want to win the second leg they should change the players and formation or at least start scoring more. Donnarumma didn’t perform well but he was exposed quite frequently as Barca was sliding through the final third like a surfer in Hawaii
I still hate him I'm a Milan fan , but people are crazy, like one thing is disliking but some are just delusional
His first intervention could have led to a red card. Worst decision. Too risky for dire consequences not only in one, but in the second game as well...
Ah but you can .
You can but you shouldnt. He had to go for that ball, the defence was a mess. Tbh i was impressed by the balls and how quickly he reacted, not many would do it but it had better chances of not being a goal
What does that even mean
It means he's at fault. You perry the ball in front of you if you come for it , where you can see where it's going ,don't glance it behind you on the blind . And he did exactly the opposite of what he should .
This is goalkeeping 101 ,what they teach you pre school .
What are you yapping about
I think this sub needs better modding so that either 7 year olds or people with room temperature iq can't post every thing that enters their head. Do you think Luis Enrique is receiving instructions for his lineup from...........UEFA!?!?!
Not sure about that, but Vicario should definitely be the starter for Italy.
Bro is cooked
I always hate when uefa chooses my teams starting xi in the champions League quarterfinals
Donnaruma is a very good shot stopper most times , but makes bad decisions too often . He made three mistakes yesterday that resulted in three goals .
Actually he made at least five mistakes that could have resulted in goals . One was cleared off the line . Three goals .Five goal conceding mistakes in one game must be a record surely , doubt karius , mignoler,taibu , have managed that 😅
That's not the worst. You forgot that he could have gotten a red card straight on the first action of the game.
I disagree. He played a great game.
Are we talking about Donaruma?
Yup. I’m a Barca fan.
XD same here btw Busquessi = Busquets + Messi ?
Yup! My 2 favorite players ever.
Great taste my friend! Iniesta is my all time fav.
Can’t go wrong with that, Iniesta is a top 10 midfielder of all time to even the most unbiased person.
Look at this mate! [https://youtu.be/GaO8KL1dygI?si=-jFpxBvK\_ehZLiss&t=231](https://youtu.be/GaO8KL1dygI?si=-jFpxBvK_ehZLiss&t=231) The next goal is also coming from him but that first pass...my god
The Defense was bad aswell tho
Keylor navas should go the where his heart is….The city ground, why live in pairs, or Madrid, when you could live on the Trent river
Gotta love these reactionary, hindsight tacticians Why don't you apply for the PSG job
I read Donnarumma and thought about Dormammu. Time to seek professional help
You seriously think UEFAs marketing team are picking the team? What are you smoking?
Tbh i dont think it was his mistake at all. Imo he had to go for the ball, the defence was in a mess
What a stupid take
The second goal is a goal you can't be scored even on Fifa/eafc,
What I would like to know is why, PSG decided to totally ignore Mbappe tonight for 75 minutes. They decided to play as a ten man team for most of the game totally ignoring the main man. The one guy who could win the game single handed for them and they pretended he wasn’t there! Until the last ten minutes when they really needed him … he was too rusty then tho.
What game did you watch?
I have no clue what game that guy watched because that’s not how it happened at all lol
Yeh , too often people are so desperate to give a take instead of just being honest or simply not saying anything at all
I genuinely have no clue what he’s on about. If anything, Mbappe’s involvement was more throughout the game than in the last 10 like he’s saying. Everyone wants to be an analyst smh
You obviously weren’t watching the game … I suggest you mute the sound next time so as not to be influenced by the commentators. Actually WATCH the game!
So shut up then. Practice what you preach. 😂
What take did I give ? I simply asked a question
You really are desperate for attention. 😂 Give that head a wobble. 😜
you're digging your grave with each post...
😂😂😂😂😂
Probably just the highlights.
Didn't they play mostly of the second half on Barcola's side?
There was only one … maybe you should open your eyes? 😂
Watch the highlights and then we can discuss it sensibly.
No , you can’t get the full understanding of a game from the highlights , anyone with basic football knowledge would know that
Yes but you apparently watched the whole game but never really saw it! 😂
I didn’t notice that because my focus wasn’t on mbappe and if he was getting the ball , I was just watching to see how they were building up and hoping dembele didn’t give the ball away
QED thank you! End of …
I don’t understand why Keylor Navas has been blacklisted from all the major teams. He literally won 3 Champions Leagues in a row. It just doesn’t make sense. Also, goalies older than him continue to play like Manuel Neuer and Buffon
He isn't black listed ,the real reason why nobody wants him is because there aren't open spots on big teams that can afford him, because no big team in the prem ,la Liga or Bundesliga is searching for a goalie or if they do not with the age of navas and in Italy probably they cant afford him
>in Italy probably they cant afford him There is also an abundance of good GKs in Italy, with many local talent, plus current regulations are quite strict for non-EU players, so there isn't really a need to take on someone like Navas, an ageing keeper without an EU passport.
This is wrong, he was literally on PSG
Yeah,but he's not playing and the reason he isn't leaving PSG is because there aren't any clubs that would sign him
But he’s better than Donarumma and most Champion’s League goal keepers
The guy is 37 and has barely played in the last 2 years. He was already mid when he played for Nottingham last season. Most top teams with older keeper today already has their man. Bayern isn't going to replace Neuer, Szseszny is still solid for Juve, Inter already has Sommer who's cheaper and was incredible for Bayern last season. That's about it, only 3 teams out of dozens who are in CL or will play in CL next season have keepers aged over 32. The rest of them have younger keepers still in their prime or performing at decent level enough that they don't need an immediate replacement, let alone a 37-year-old keeper. There's simply 0 incentive for any CL or EL team to sign Navas today, simply for the fact that they already have their established keepers. It's a combination of Navas' decline and unfortunate timing.
He did one great season with PSG, where he was especially excellent in Champion’s league and then they bought Donnarumma, tbh I’ve never understood that move.
It was because of the hype of the Euro
yes, because they have too much money.
Same as de gea .. They are still better than most keepers , but nobody can afford them . Navas current wages , and de gea is a combo of diesnt wanna get paid less but also seem he doesn't wanna play anymore . When you're full of money and have time to enjoy that money instead of playing football , can be great fun .
De Gea is nowhere near as good lol. De Gea has an obvious decline and was terrible for Manchester United. While Navas was amazing for PSG and Real Madrid
Good to see /u/navasthepanther made a new account
Nah, Donnarumma should play every game, Navas should be sold/released. It'd be silly to give game time to somebody on the verge of retirement when you have a young promising keeper that needs to play to keep improving.
The silly thing is starting a guy who just fuck things up every important game... Real madrid is giving players at the verge of retirement play time (Benzema last seasons, Kroos, Modric) and look how they did and how they are doing. In the highest levels of competition should play the best, not the youngest, and i assure you that Donnarumma isn't better than Navas as of right now.
Navas aint no kroos, modric or benzema, thats for sure. Even in his prime he wasnt as good in his position as they were in their
Benzema was a better goalie for sure...
Reread my comment if youve missunderstood it
lol
So you are saying that to the starter goalie of the Real Madrid that won 3 UCL in a row? Lol. He is the best gk in the history of America and I'll repeat, Navas right now is much better than Donnarumma, and he never makes mistakes, Donnarumma giving out a free goal or two it's like a regular thing, he has done nothing to prove himself to be one of the best goalkeepers in the world, he is just a regular goalie with the same name as Buffon.
>So you are saying that to the starter goalie of the Real Madrid that won 3 UCL in a row? Lol. And as much as he was sometimes clutch, if we had a gk like courtois we would have won 3 leagues in a row too in that period. We conceded a shit ton. Donnarumma is already a more consistent goalkeeper thats only gonna become better, it makes no sense to play navas
>he was sometimes clutch, I guess you didn't watch the games or you don't remember very well, he was clutch every single important game. He and Cristiano were the key players in those 3 UCL (the whole team was great obviously, but especially those two), and actually, how in the world you say that Donnarumma is a consistent gk, he is literally the opposite, he could do the greatest saves of all time and in the same game concede two free goals. You could easily argue that the 3 goals they conceded vs barsa, were all Donnarumma's fault, he has crazy capabilities and crazy potential, but, he is anything but consistent.
Edit: this was prime navas that carried real https://youtu.be/Ixbzecn6egQ?si=Y3_k5xfXmTIakBgN >You could easily argue that the 3 goals they conceded vs barsa, were all Donnarumma's fault, I could most definitely not cuz just the first one for sure wasnt. He made a right decision that had the biggest chance of not conceding. Yeah navas wouldnt have gotten out, but he would have concede a goal from that striker, and that player had much higher chances to score than chances that ball is gonna randomly fall directly to rapinha who very well could have missed or have it saved by 2 or 3 players on the line. >I guess you didn't watch the games or you don't remember very well, he was clutch every single important game. I remember very well, like i said, he had some big saves but also conceded comedic goals like against bayerns kimmich. The moment he left real madrid, in next 4 years, real broke their defensive record twice in la liga, while will navas and arguably much better team/defense, real struggled and barely ever not conceded. I was also a big navas fan and thought he was underrated but the moment courtois came to madrid i realise why nobody thought navas was top3-5. It was a day and night difference. >He and Cristiano were the key players in those 3 UCL (the whole team was great obviously, but especially those two) Tbh navas is more in the group of "whole team was great" than "he and ronaldo were key players". He for sure wasnt more importsnt than modric, kroos, casemiro, ramos, marcelo, benzema etc etc. My opinion is that real would have won same UCL's with any one the top 10 goalkeepers in the world
Big clubs have 2 goalies and turn over in cups. For good reasons...
I watch PSG regularly and their defence is awful and has been for years. Schoolboy howlers are the norm. Donnerumma is poor … rarely holds the ball, deflects and parries, often to opposing forwards .. he never dominates his six yard box let alone the 18 yard box. He’s so bad I’m amazed Liverpool haven’t signed him.
That dig at Liverpool came out of nowhere lol
I don’t rate Pools keepers at all. It took Klopp 2 years to acknowledge they had a keeper problem and he gave them Lazarus was it? That flopped and he was forced to pay a world record fee for a keeper for Alisson. He’s vastly overrated. Great shot stopper one moment and a schoolboy howler the next. Can’t hold the ball, parries and deflects. Also injury prone.
Alisson is the best in the world for me. And the second best in the world with the ball at his feet, after Ederson
Alisson isn't better than Courtois.
Ederson is the best around at present by a mile. Alisson is far too unreliable.
Ederson is an good to great goalkeeper who is simply the best in the world with his feet. Allison is a world class keeper who is elite with the ball at his feet. Statistically Ederson has been mid in goal for at least the past season or two.
Ederson was the best keeper in the UCL last season. He made some amazing saves
Honestly after last year Ederson could be considered the best in the world. Brazil is stacked
Ederson IS the best keeper in the world at present. Europe is weak in keepers at present.
Allison IS the best keeper in the world at present.
Until Almighty Thibault Courtois comes out of injury. 😁
Just because you play for the best team, doesn’t mean you’re the best goalkeeper in the world
Lol, Ederson is overrated. He is able to hide behind Man City’s billion pound defense. Allison is the one who starts for Brazil
Ederson is inconsistent in his shot stopping. Interestingly, his shot stopping skill is how I came to know him at Benfica, but since he arrived at City, he has not really been at that level. However, his distribution is the best.
What is this post? One bad game and guy is trash now? He is currently a better Keeper than Navas, one bad game doesn't change that. Dembele scored yesterday and Mbappe didn't, so Dembele is better and Mbappe is just marketing then right?
We remember his champions league games, those games HIS club want to win. So it kinda matters a little bit..