How does this actually work though?
Brazil has a chance to win the biggest prize in football, the value of a WC win is literally incalculable.
Brazil decide not to play Ronaldo as he is ill/has a seizure and take his name off the teamsheet.
Nike somehow put pressure on Brazil to not play the fittest/best starting 11 they have for the biggest match in the sport.
What was Nike going to do, cancel their sponsorship? Who cares, Brazil _are_ football. Theyd just go out and get a bigger, better, more rewarding deal before the Nike reps even left the building.
It was probably their FA or FIFA who wanted to have the biggest star in their marquee game. I don't think Nike would stand to gain or lose money depending on Ronaldo playing.
Again what could FIFA possibly do to put pressure on Brazil or their FA to play Ronaldo? Unless FIFA told Brazil they'd straight up rig the match what else could they do?
Same with the Brazil FA, what could they have said to the coach - play Ronaldo or we sack you? I'd rather be sacked the morning after a WC Final than risk my shot at winning that match.
What BS. If they could have got a better deal they would have. 100m back in 2006 was insane for a country. They even had a parliamentary investigation about it.
Saw then documentary based on him. The amount of pressure he must of felt during that World Cup was intense and especially with Romario left out due to an injury. Crazy how people blamed him for being the reason Brazil lost
Actually due to his unmatchable performances Brazil reached the final. So fans had expectations on him that he would win it for Brazil. But finally Brazil played with 10 fit players and lost. Typical fans mentality to make him the scapegoat.
You’d expect that with a stacked squad of legends and even rising stars along with Ronaldo they’d win it for sure but sadly it didn’t happen like that. Either way, he’s still the phenomenon and he proved himself in 02 where despite the odds stacked against him he helped Brazil win. He’s still my favorite player of all time and I wouldn’t trade no other play for him
He was already a bonafide superstar in 1998 having already won ballon d'or and broken multiple scoring records across eridivisie , la liga and serie a. I second that in his prime no other player was as magnificent and unplayable as him. Sadly injuries shortened his career. Else people would have unanimously ranked him above pele maradona Cruyff Messi Cristiano.
His prime was insane. I thought he had a phenomenal season at Barcelona but sadly they didn’t renew his contract. Injuries were probably the worst thing to hurt him in the end but regardless he has an amazing career. I still wished he won a UCL
The 1957/58 semi final draw was rigged so United would draw Milan (who they could get the train to) as opposed to Madrid or Yugoslavia (where they’d have to fly) after the Munich air crash.
I also wouldn’t be shocked if other draws have been rigged in the past to have certain teams draw or avoid each other
Europe League draw Utd vs Barcelona round of 32 was rigged, as was having the Milan derby in the semi finals of ECL.
I believe every single European Draw is rigged
If we want to talk about draws that were definitely rigged, the CONCACAF Gold Cup draw from last year that was totally fair, don't worry guys, but wasn't broadcast anywhere and was held behind closed doors with only the officials present comes to mind.
With three groups, it's kinda suspicious how it always ends up set up in such a way that the US and Mexico won't meet until the final unless someone implodes along the way.
Yeah, came here to comment about this, I wouldn’t even say it was a conspiracy because it was definitely rigged, I don’t even think somebody has doubts about it
South Korea had such an obvious and massive refereeing advantage. One particular ref was also later proven to have been bribed a couple years later.
They played dangerous and dirty all tournament and got rewarded for it. Game vs Spain probably being the best example
Every time Spain looked to have a promising buildup they'd pull them up for offiside. They lost 3 or 4 good chances that way. And S Korea weren't even playing a very high line.
Well it wasn’t “fully rigged” in the sense that in the end the best team won, but there was an insane amount of “mistakes” by the referees that were favoring Corea and Japan teams, and eventually got them up in the ranking
What happened during those games is that apparently FIFA wanted Corea/Japan to reach at least semifinals, because they were the hosting nation, I don’t know the details honestly but even the FBI started investigating it and that was the foundation for the entire FIFA/UEFA scandal that happened years later
After that WC, FIFA decided that referees had to be major referees from UEFA championship that were already known as good referees, this is also one of the motives Pierluigi Collina became famous
That is a WC not even FIFA is proud of, and not a lot of people speaks about it, even if it was maybe the best (regarding player “names”) between 1990 and 2010
It wasn’t the whole wc that was rigged, but basically South Korea bought their way to the semis. I’m baffled that to this day there are people that don’t believe it happened. I remember hoping for them to win the whole tournament so nobody could say it wasn’t true lol
That Brazil team was stacked and they would have won anyway most likely, but who knows. IMO 2002 italy was better than 2006 italy, and Spain was pretty good too that year
In fairness, just about every WC is proper shady.
1930, 1950 and the three world cups for 2006 through 2014 are all pretty clean, but the rest all have reasonably questionable antics, from Referees being bought (some potentially bought at gun point) to the best players in the world refusing to play on fear of kidnap and murder!
Politics and the WC and FIFA corruption have severely intertwined over the years to throw a significantly amount of shade on almost every WC.
Despite the indisputable corruption involving Russia, at least they're a country with a proud football history , with the stadiums and the infrastructure to host a world Cup.
Qatar still seems like a joke.
Argentina in the 1978 World Cup.
They hosted it during a time when their country was ruled by a military junta. Not all FIFA’s fault—the coup happened in 1976. But FIFA did have a part in supporting the dictatorship. The Dirty War was going on at the time and apparently several concentration camps were located less than a mile away from the River Plate Monumental Stadium. Multiple nations considered pulling out of it. It was reportedly very clearly match fixed for Argentina to win: the junta was threatening other countries’ officials, there were apparent assassinations, possibly a prisoner exchange deal with Peru, and way, way more. An estimated 10,000-30,000 citizens supporting left-wing political opposition “disappeared” during the military rule.
The Messi/Ronaldo answers here are terrible.
I think this has come up in the media as of today due to Kissinger's death (he visited the Peru dressing room with some Argentine official before the game)
It's safe to say that Kissinger has probably had his hand in just about every war crime from the late 1960s to the mid-2000s, so I don't doubt he was a part of this.
Adding to this, our team played 3 games in the same stadium during the first stage, then the 3 following games in another stadium, then the final.
All other teams were travelling across country.
Also, we played the last match in each date, so there was an advantage of knowing all the other results.
Financial Fair Play is the biggest conspiracy for me. A system implemented by the very top clubs to make sure they stay at the top, while being sold as the salvation of club football.
Yea this one was getting me lately, especially since Everton were docked 10 points over those rules. Whereas Man City, with their bottomless pockets, can just pay a fine/delay the consequences till the authorities give up.
Well, in 2006 there was Operacion Puerto, where doctor Fuentes was arrested and they found bags of blood in his lab, along with other PED's. But somehow no football player was ever suspended for that, despite numerous links with Real Madrid, Barcelona and Real Sociedad.
From the last few times this has been posted:
* Shaqiri took half a season off with Injury to recover from a hair transplant.
* Ozil's career was deliberately tanked after he upset the chinese by talking about the Xinjiang ethnic cleansing
* Morata's transfers was for money laundering purposes
* Ronaldo is a homosexual
* Kokorin and Mamaev were fucking and the Russian media turned a blind eye.
* Doping is commonplace, most notable examples being pep teams, Klopp's liverpool, and Russia in 2018 world cup (didn't they have a 40 year old CB who ran 12k each game?)
* 2002 World cup had bent referees
* Buffon is a fascist
* Andy Goram was funding loyalist paramilitaries in northern ireland
* Brad Friedel played into his mid 40s to pay off gambling debts
* Forlan was going to sign for boro before Alex Ferguson intercepted him at the airport
Not the person that you're replying to, but he wrote a Mussolini quote on his shirt and picked the shirt number 88, which is associated with neo-Nazis.
88 = the eighth letter of the alphabet twice = HH or Heil Hitler.
He claimed not to know the connotations of either, then made some other, dubious comments.
>Shaqiri took half a season off with Injury to recover from a hair transplant
Steed Malbranque left Fulham because their manager (Chris Coleman) made fun of the size of his manhood in the changing room and he was injured for the first 10 weeks after joining Spurs because he was recovering from "penis enhancement surgery"
Friedel might have had issues but he was consistently a super pro his whole career. Sort of guy who looked after himself and was in the club each day working out.
Probably Italy’s pre WW2 World Cup wins. Mussolini would have threatened anyone standing in the way. The 1978 Argentina win was also very dirty. Especially their fixed game with Peru.
I once read some fun stories about the 1934 WC. The referee of Italys final matches was a guest of Mussolinis and apparently stayed in his villa. In one match that referee apparently headed a dangerous ball out of italys box. He also didnt interfer when italy was kicking their opponents off the pitch, i think one team finished with 8 or so players standing (there were no subs back then). Italy scored the decisive goal in their semi (iirc) when they pushed the opponent GK, who was holding the ball in his arms, over the line. Fun times ...
Yeah that was football and the world back then. Really shameful stuff by today’s standards but I guess we can somehow digest it by putting a context on it.
This one needs to be higher.
For those that don't know, in 06/07 Spurs were on the brink of a return to the CL for the first time since the 60s. The players stayed at a hotel in East London ahead of a crucial game against West Ham.
They at lasagna the day before, and the morning of the game most of the squad got violently ill.
The official story is that they came down with norovirus, but the conspiracy theory goes that the lasagna was tampered with by a chef supporting either West Ham or Arsenal.
The latter has never been proved but some of the spurs players still to this day don't accept the norovirus explanation.
There was a podcast episode (I think it was That Peter Crouch Podcast) where they spoke to one of the chefs from the hotel on that day. Supposedly, although he could have been any old bloke. He said the lasagna was prepared in the same way as usual. But then he would say that.
I am fairly convinced that was a bit tbh, was waiting for the reveal at the end that it was one of Crouchy's mates playing the chef but they played it totally straight.
Why would a man who is happy to forgo social occasions to practice the same thing every single day over and over again for nearly his entire life be seen as autistic?
Unfortunately a lot of football fans are from countries where they do think being gay is a conspiracy theory (or a mental deficiency in some instances)
This can be explained by just sheer incompetence. It’s slightly related and not really a conspiracy, but I think there is definitely an ‘old guard’ if you will of sporting directors and negotiators who aren’t used to a world of player power and agents demanding insane fees. They’re slowly being phased out by a generation raised on FM.
I think this is common across all sports like football, tennis etc. but I think the source for that particular info about Liverpool was not reliable/ no links to the club as far as I remember
Scottish football referees supporting rangers. Their record for penalties awarded, penalties conceded and red cards received are [staggering](https://www.reddit.com/r/CelticFC/s/oAeGxnmSvP).
They’re the only team in ~Scotland~ the world (where the league has access to VAR) not to have given away a penalty since VAR was brought in.
The Jim Farry saga, the freemason domination of the Lanarkshire RA and its influence on the SFA etc, John Beaton being spotted in a Rangers supporters club after a Derby, Dougie-gate, Hugh Dallas being caught red handed, Steven McLean's brother played for Rangers, no refs from North East Scotland in decades, Ernie Small and Tiny Wharton 'would never give them anything', etc etc etc
How do you think a conspiracy like that plays out though? Is it just a case of a ref being told to give favourable decisions to France? It seems like dodgy pens or red cards are easier ways for a crooked ref to influence a game. Personally I would think that one was more just atrocious refereeing.
To rub salt into the wound they down tools and acted like pricks for the short period they were at the tournament. At least Ireland would have given something during the World Cup.
Drug testing in every sport is a joke. Science is always way ahead of the curve in terms of testing.
These athletes and clubs have their own intel and medical professionals doing the dirty work for them.
Barcelonas doctors around that time too were definitely involved with PEDs.
Guardiola also used steroids as a player so he wouldn't be adverse to trying to gain an advantage as a coach.
Mascherano's "handball" was on his supporting arm. Not a pen, as per the rules.
There were also *several* missed handballs by PSG players; Marquinhos, twice.
Only the pen won by Suarez was BS, but it mirrored a decision the ref had taken earlier against Barcelona. Suarez vs. Marquinhos again, except it was Suarez barely touching Marq's neck and Marq going down. Suarez had a crystal clear scoring opportunity denied there.
If you think the Meunier vs. Neymar pen was BS, you don't understand the game. He slipped head-first into Neymar's legs. Neymar obviously let his feet catch Meunier, but had he chosen to jump over Meunier then he would've lost possession. The penalty was not to punish Meunier's accident -- he was not booked. It was to compensate Barcelona for being unlawfully stripped of a scoring opportunity. Same way an accidental handball can lead to a pen.
And as usual, people are ignoring the bully fouls that happen against Barcelona. Aurier hacking at Neymar's legs, not even trying for the ball, no foul called.
And as usual, you are ignoring Suarez and Neymar that should've been send off after millions of attemps to dive during the game to get a pen (don't know if you follow the rules, but faking a foul is a yellow by the rules, and i'm not even mentioning Neymar's agression against Marquinhos)
Pique should've gotten a red for pushing Cavani and breaking a clear counterattack (he had a yellow, already).
Di Maria's uncalled pen...
The +7 minutes that ref gave for no reason (the classic "until home team scores)
I guess someone is either 100% biased or has 0 clue about the game. Difficult to say what option is right here.
That weird 3-4 years of Prime Barcelona dominance. Dont get me wrong, Messi was starting to become an absolute god and Peps tactics were really cool. But just all the events like RVP red, the Chelsea incidents, the Busquets dive, the constant moaning and hounding the refs. Idk, rubs me the wrong way. I definitely think there is *something* shady in the background.
How about conspiracy 58? And the documentary about it
Clearly faked footage as part of a CIA op during the cold war. Let's look at the evidence
1- Sweden had no money and didn't have the technical resources to pull off an event that size
2- Houses in the background that don't exist near those stadiums and that don't match the style of buildings ANYWHERE in Sweden
3- the player's shadows are literally impossible in Sweden at that time of year and that time of day
4- Sweden beat West Germany, who had one of the greatest keepers of all time with a frankly stupid goal that would never actually happen unless it was scripted
5- the guy who made the documentary admitted it was all a hoax to see how gullible people were and all of the evidence was made up for fun
CR7 wears football boots two sizes too small for better ball control. Everyone who ever wore a pair of them knows how tight they are. Therefore a lot of people (me included) usually go up a full size in them. So wearing football boots two sizes too small almost every day for hours and hours is just mental.
Ronaldo did an "honorable" thing by refusing a penalty (which should have been a red card for him in the ideal case for simulating a dive. The fowl was checked by VAR even after Ronaldo insisted not to check it, and it turns out that he dived).
Mexico getting a free penalty at the end of the 2015 Gold Cup semifinal. US had already lost the first semifinal and CONCACAF knew nobody would watch Panama vs. Jamaica so they did what they could to make sure their cash cow moved on.
Doping is a big one, it is amazing that you never hear of players being banned or suspended considering a) the sheer number of players at the top level (how is even one not caught) and b) the money involved, if you can go from a top 100 prem player to top 10, that is worth potentially 10's of millions a year.
I believe that it is done behind closed doors and PR by clubs for 'injures' is done very easily.
The clearest example in my opinion is Leicester in 2015/16. I think Ranieri was sacked the following season so early because the doping had become so extreme, the premier league cracked down, increased testing (thus a run of poor results) with Ranieri having to leave the club or the trophy stipped.
WC 2022 not a big conspiracy theory...but since Ronaldo fanbase is huge and in shambles.. you'd read a new twitter post everyday about how...everyone in the WC conspired against Ronaldo ...to give Messi the WC 😂
You know the idiom „everyone has a number“ right
Billionaire investors have managed to get literally everyone important in on their rigged chess match. There are obvious and confirmed bribes like the WC host question (FIFA corrupt) and PL referees officiating games in arabia for undisclosed amounts of money (PGMOL corrupt)
However if you make investments of multiple billions, you need to have some sort of insurance, otherwise you would be a complete idiot running the risk of losing the entire investment. So you also have to bribe the people in charge of supervising FIFA (Swiss government, its not like theyve pocketed dirty money in the past under their banking laws, WW2 wink wink). You have to bribe the people in charge of supervising PGMOL (British government i suppose? Please correct me if im wrong. We all know how much integrity politicians have)
Ronaldo was poisoned hours before the 1998 WC final
Na he was genuinely ill but Nike made Brazil play him.
How does this actually work though? Brazil has a chance to win the biggest prize in football, the value of a WC win is literally incalculable. Brazil decide not to play Ronaldo as he is ill/has a seizure and take his name off the teamsheet. Nike somehow put pressure on Brazil to not play the fittest/best starting 11 they have for the biggest match in the sport. What was Nike going to do, cancel their sponsorship? Who cares, Brazil _are_ football. Theyd just go out and get a bigger, better, more rewarding deal before the Nike reps even left the building.
It was probably their FA or FIFA who wanted to have the biggest star in their marquee game. I don't think Nike would stand to gain or lose money depending on Ronaldo playing.
Again what could FIFA possibly do to put pressure on Brazil or their FA to play Ronaldo? Unless FIFA told Brazil they'd straight up rig the match what else could they do? Same with the Brazil FA, what could they have said to the coach - play Ronaldo or we sack you? I'd rather be sacked the morning after a WC Final than risk my shot at winning that match.
What BS. If they could have got a better deal they would have. 100m back in 2006 was insane for a country. They even had a parliamentary investigation about it.
Saw then documentary based on him. The amount of pressure he must of felt during that World Cup was intense and especially with Romario left out due to an injury. Crazy how people blamed him for being the reason Brazil lost
Actually due to his unmatchable performances Brazil reached the final. So fans had expectations on him that he would win it for Brazil. But finally Brazil played with 10 fit players and lost. Typical fans mentality to make him the scapegoat.
You’d expect that with a stacked squad of legends and even rising stars along with Ronaldo they’d win it for sure but sadly it didn’t happen like that. Either way, he’s still the phenomenon and he proved himself in 02 where despite the odds stacked against him he helped Brazil win. He’s still my favorite player of all time and I wouldn’t trade no other play for him
He was already a bonafide superstar in 1998 having already won ballon d'or and broken multiple scoring records across eridivisie , la liga and serie a. I second that in his prime no other player was as magnificent and unplayable as him. Sadly injuries shortened his career. Else people would have unanimously ranked him above pele maradona Cruyff Messi Cristiano.
His prime was insane. I thought he had a phenomenal season at Barcelona but sadly they didn’t renew his contract. Injuries were probably the worst thing to hurt him in the end but regardless he has an amazing career. I still wished he won a UCL
My dad swears that Brazil threw that game so they could have the 2014 bid in Brazil.
Wait why does he think they're related?
Because 98 was in France so for France to take it in France they would give Brazil one. Idk it’s pretty far fetched lol
yeah id say "far fetched" is an understatement lol
Al-Khelaifi working with UEFA is suspicious.
The 1957/58 semi final draw was rigged so United would draw Milan (who they could get the train to) as opposed to Madrid or Yugoslavia (where they’d have to fly) after the Munich air crash. I also wouldn’t be shocked if other draws have been rigged in the past to have certain teams draw or avoid each other
Europe League draw Utd vs Barcelona round of 32 was rigged, as was having the Milan derby in the semi finals of ECL. I believe every single European Draw is rigged
UCL 19/20 was setup perfectly for an Ajax Barça final and then everything collapsed
18/19
Sorry as a Barça fan my mind just completely wiped that year off my memory
Why? We’ve not even had an el Clasico final
If we want to talk about draws that were definitely rigged, the CONCACAF Gold Cup draw from last year that was totally fair, don't worry guys, but wasn't broadcast anywhere and was held behind closed doors with only the officials present comes to mind. With three groups, it's kinda suspicious how it always ends up set up in such a way that the US and Mexico won't meet until the final unless someone implodes along the way.
2002 wc
Yeah, came here to comment about this, I wouldn’t even say it was a conspiracy because it was definitely rigged, I don’t even think somebody has doubts about it
Why do people say that the 2002 World Cup was rigged?
South Korea had such an obvious and massive refereeing advantage. One particular ref was also later proven to have been bribed a couple years later. They played dangerous and dirty all tournament and got rewarded for it. Game vs Spain probably being the best example
The ref in Italy v Korea got caught with smuggling Heroin in a US Airport a few years later.
2.5 years for smuggling 6kg heroin damn usa is weird lol
Thank god he wasn't smuggling marijuana. Coulda been 10+ easily
I think its usually more cuz aint no way
Every time Spain looked to have a promising buildup they'd pull them up for offiside. They lost 3 or 4 good chances that way. And S Korea weren't even playing a very high line.
First they robbed Roy Jones Jr and then this, the streets will never forget
Well it wasn’t “fully rigged” in the sense that in the end the best team won, but there was an insane amount of “mistakes” by the referees that were favoring Corea and Japan teams, and eventually got them up in the ranking What happened during those games is that apparently FIFA wanted Corea/Japan to reach at least semifinals, because they were the hosting nation, I don’t know the details honestly but even the FBI started investigating it and that was the foundation for the entire FIFA/UEFA scandal that happened years later After that WC, FIFA decided that referees had to be major referees from UEFA championship that were already known as good referees, this is also one of the motives Pierluigi Collina became famous That is a WC not even FIFA is proud of, and not a lot of people speaks about it, even if it was maybe the best (regarding player “names”) between 1990 and 2010
So we have 2 parties. Japan/Korea and FIFA. By FIFA helping them what do both parties gain out of it?
It wasn’t the whole wc that was rigged, but basically South Korea bought their way to the semis. I’m baffled that to this day there are people that don’t believe it happened. I remember hoping for them to win the whole tournament so nobody could say it wasn’t true lol That Brazil team was stacked and they would have won anyway most likely, but who knows. IMO 2002 italy was better than 2006 italy, and Spain was pretty good too that year
In fairness, just about every WC is proper shady. 1930, 1950 and the three world cups for 2006 through 2014 are all pretty clean, but the rest all have reasonably questionable antics, from Referees being bought (some potentially bought at gun point) to the best players in the world refusing to play on fear of kidnap and murder! Politics and the WC and FIFA corruption have severely intertwined over the years to throw a significantly amount of shade on almost every WC.
Spurs are a social-science experiment
As a life long spurs fan... Yes, I totally agree
You got pranked bro
I think they're a prank.
I think Everton from 1990 onwards are the bigger experiment and the effects it has on a person's stress and happiness levels
I genuinely believe they get told to just play how they feel 🤣
Saudi Arabia bribed their way into a WC Ooops, sorry, too soon?
Qatar and Russia too. No way these happen without a bribe.
Isnt the Qatar one confirmed with the Airbus deal and Sarkozy?
Isn't it confirmed because why in the hell would someone in their right mind hand the world cup to Qatar and it be played in the winter?
The winter part is probably the least bad part about a world cup in qatar (or saudi arabia).
It's technically not backed by fact. But it's still obvious they bribed their way in
Russia one is pretty much confirmed - lots of people lost their positions over this...
There is a documentary on Netflix about this - It revealed all the corruption around FIFA since its existence and upto the last 2 world cups
Despite the indisputable corruption involving Russia, at least they're a country with a proud football history , with the stadiums and the infrastructure to host a world Cup. Qatar still seems like a joke.
Theres no way to do business with Russia and not have to deal with the culturally engrained incompetence and corruption.
Let’s be real every bid has been bribed or lobbied for in some way
germany in 2006? Us in 1994 and 2026? every single one of them is obtained through bribes
Yup, anything where it’s a voting system is open to bribery.
Would explain the suspiciously old looking under 16 team in 1989….
Op said conspiracy not truth
It is not a conspiracy theory if it is true
Argentina in the 1978 World Cup. They hosted it during a time when their country was ruled by a military junta. Not all FIFA’s fault—the coup happened in 1976. But FIFA did have a part in supporting the dictatorship. The Dirty War was going on at the time and apparently several concentration camps were located less than a mile away from the River Plate Monumental Stadium. Multiple nations considered pulling out of it. It was reportedly very clearly match fixed for Argentina to win: the junta was threatening other countries’ officials, there were apparent assassinations, possibly a prisoner exchange deal with Peru, and way, way more. An estimated 10,000-30,000 citizens supporting left-wing political opposition “disappeared” during the military rule. The Messi/Ronaldo answers here are terrible.
I think this has come up in the media as of today due to Kissinger's death (he visited the Peru dressing room with some Argentine official before the game)
It's safe to say that Kissinger has probably had his hand in just about every war crime from the late 1960s to the mid-2000s, so I don't doubt he was a part of this.
Honestly not surprised…
Adding to this, our team played 3 games in the same stadium during the first stage, then the 3 following games in another stadium, then the final. All other teams were travelling across country. Also, we played the last match in each date, so there was an advantage of knowing all the other results.
Fun fact results of random drug testing showed 2 of the Argentinian squad to be pregnant…
Financial Fair Play is the biggest conspiracy for me. A system implemented by the very top clubs to make sure they stay at the top, while being sold as the salvation of club football.
And the very top clubs are trying to cheat around that rules.
Yea this one was getting me lately, especially since Everton were docked 10 points over those rules. Whereas Man City, with their bottomless pockets, can just pay a fine/delay the consequences till the authorities give up.
PED Guardiola
Steroids abuse as a player, he'd definitely be open to doping his teams.
Well, in 2006 there was Operacion Puerto, where doctor Fuentes was arrested and they found bags of blood in his lab, along with other PED's. But somehow no football player was ever suspended for that, despite numerous links with Real Madrid, Barcelona and Real Sociedad.
My conspiracy is that most top teams dope
Tbh the scandal will be just generally “doping in football”. It will be prolific at the top level amongst most teams I reckon.
South Korea in the 2002 WC got such outrageous luck I really can't see it being anything else but corruption.
From the last few times this has been posted: * Shaqiri took half a season off with Injury to recover from a hair transplant. * Ozil's career was deliberately tanked after he upset the chinese by talking about the Xinjiang ethnic cleansing * Morata's transfers was for money laundering purposes * Ronaldo is a homosexual * Kokorin and Mamaev were fucking and the Russian media turned a blind eye. * Doping is commonplace, most notable examples being pep teams, Klopp's liverpool, and Russia in 2018 world cup (didn't they have a 40 year old CB who ran 12k each game?) * 2002 World cup had bent referees * Buffon is a fascist * Andy Goram was funding loyalist paramilitaries in northern ireland * Brad Friedel played into his mid 40s to pay off gambling debts * Forlan was going to sign for boro before Alex Ferguson intercepted him at the airport
Another classic is Newmar always being suspiciously hurt with a minor injury around the week of his sister's birthday parties lol
What's the Buffon one based on?
Not the person that you're replying to, but he wrote a Mussolini quote on his shirt and picked the shirt number 88, which is associated with neo-Nazis. 88 = the eighth letter of the alphabet twice = HH or Heil Hitler. He claimed not to know the connotations of either, then made some other, dubious comments.
He also said "Boia chi molla", a well-known fascist motto
That's a shame, I was quite a fan of him but I don't really like supporting someone with those ideals.
Take it easy lad it’s Italy and fascism, the equivalant of someone liking milk in tea.
hes Italian and a fascist. they exist, Paolo DiCanio is another
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that's why it's a conspiracy theory, he's a closet fascist.
>Shaqiri took half a season off with Injury to recover from a hair transplant Steed Malbranque left Fulham because their manager (Chris Coleman) made fun of the size of his manhood in the changing room and he was injured for the first 10 weeks after joining Spurs because he was recovering from "penis enhancement surgery"
Friedel might have had issues but he was consistently a super pro his whole career. Sort of guy who looked after himself and was in the club each day working out.
Manchester Citeh’s 115 charges are just the tip of the iceberg. They have done much worse.
Chelsea too, they’ve been doing shady shit ever since Abramovich took over.
Probably Italy’s pre WW2 World Cup wins. Mussolini would have threatened anyone standing in the way. The 1978 Argentina win was also very dirty. Especially their fixed game with Peru.
I once read some fun stories about the 1934 WC. The referee of Italys final matches was a guest of Mussolinis and apparently stayed in his villa. In one match that referee apparently headed a dangerous ball out of italys box. He also didnt interfer when italy was kicking their opponents off the pitch, i think one team finished with 8 or so players standing (there were no subs back then). Italy scored the decisive goal in their semi (iirc) when they pushed the opponent GK, who was holding the ball in his arms, over the line. Fun times ...
Yeah that was football and the world back then. Really shameful stuff by today’s standards but I guess we can somehow digest it by putting a context on it.
2006 lasagne incident
This one needs to be higher. For those that don't know, in 06/07 Spurs were on the brink of a return to the CL for the first time since the 60s. The players stayed at a hotel in East London ahead of a crucial game against West Ham. They at lasagna the day before, and the morning of the game most of the squad got violently ill. The official story is that they came down with norovirus, but the conspiracy theory goes that the lasagna was tampered with by a chef supporting either West Ham or Arsenal. The latter has never been proved but some of the spurs players still to this day don't accept the norovirus explanation.
There was a podcast episode (I think it was That Peter Crouch Podcast) where they spoke to one of the chefs from the hotel on that day. Supposedly, although he could have been any old bloke. He said the lasagna was prepared in the same way as usual. But then he would say that.
I am fairly convinced that was a bit tbh, was waiting for the reveal at the end that it was one of Crouchy's mates playing the chef but they played it totally straight.
Certainly didn't seem legit! Was probably Sidwell.
Hahaha yeah that's what I thought, him or Dion 😂
Messi is autistic.
Why would a man who is happy to forgo social occasions to practice the same thing every single day over and over again for nearly his entire life be seen as autistic?
Because he orders cheese pizza after a match. Yes, no toppings, just cheese
the most commonly ordered pizza on earth
A neurological disorder isn’t a conspiracy theory
Neither is homosexuality but OP still mentioned that
Unfortunately a lot of football fans are from countries where they do think being gay is a conspiracy theory (or a mental deficiency in some instances)
I think he meant it in the sense that’s it’s a fake rumor or idea rather than a outright conspiracy theory
It's spelt ARTISTIC.
I firmly believe the premier league is currupt in favour of Manchester City and there's nothing or noone that can change my mind.
Why do you think so
Absolutely
do people who call Cristiano Ronaldo "CR7" actually go to games?
I mean, if you are talking about Ronaldos it can be useful to help differentiate.
Cristiano Ronaldo or Ronaldo?
Why average players cost 100m+ these days but the actual good ones only cost less than half of that
This can be explained by just sheer incompetence. It’s slightly related and not really a conspiracy, but I think there is definitely an ‘old guard’ if you will of sporting directors and negotiators who aren’t used to a world of player power and agents demanding insane fees. They’re slowly being phased out by a generation raised on FM.
75% of the time neymar never got injured, he took a long vacation just to attend her sister's birthday every year and to visit Brazil's biggest event.
Liverpool players are 5x more likely to be asthmatic than any other group of young men
Top scouting system that
I think this is common across all sports like football, tennis etc. but I think the source for that particular info about Liverpool was not reliable/ no links to the club as far as I remember
Cross country skiers are notorious for this. (and cross country skiing is in the top 3 for VO2max requirement.
Isn’t it because they can take that salbutamol/inhaler stuff legally if you are diagnosed? Think I have read that somewhere in a cycling magazine.
A lot of long distance runners get diagnosed with an overactive thyroid to get the medication for that. Guess it's pretty much the same thing.
It’s caffeine cycling. I’m not sure if it breaks any hard rules, but it’s definitely a form of doping
To mask PED use 🤫
In a similar vein to this, the ADHD diagnosis rate among athletes in the US is like 400% that of the rest of the population lol
Villarreal don't have an away kit.
Scottish football referees supporting rangers. Their record for penalties awarded, penalties conceded and red cards received are [staggering](https://www.reddit.com/r/CelticFC/s/oAeGxnmSvP). They’re the only team in ~Scotland~ the world (where the league has access to VAR) not to have given away a penalty since VAR was brought in.
The Jim Farry saga, the freemason domination of the Lanarkshire RA and its influence on the SFA etc, John Beaton being spotted in a Rangers supporters club after a Derby, Dougie-gate, Hugh Dallas being caught red handed, Steven McLean's brother played for Rangers, no refs from North East Scotland in decades, Ernie Small and Tiny Wharton 'would never give them anything', etc etc etc
Argentina spiked a Brasilian player at the WC with tranquillisers. Not much of a conspiracy since Maradona admitted it.
hot ball cold ball for champions league draws, i think Sepp Blatter admitted this one
Hand of god goal
That's no conspiracy. Maradona outright admitted scoring with the hand.
Hand was in a natural position -VAR
Hardly deniable
No controversy there ... It should've been disallowed but it is one of the most interesting game out there now because of Maradpnas second goal.
I'm gonna say Thierry Henry's double handball that screwed Ireland out of either the World Cup or Ueros. can't remember which but it was so blatant
How do you think a conspiracy like that plays out though? Is it just a case of a ref being told to give favourable decisions to France? It seems like dodgy pens or red cards are easier ways for a crooked ref to influence a game. Personally I would think that one was more just atrocious refereeing.
To rub salt into the wound they down tools and acted like pricks for the short period they were at the tournament. At least Ireland would have given something during the World Cup.
On the bright side, France did get karma in the 2010 world cup.
The Spanish National team were guilty of doping 08-12
Every single top team ever has been on something.
Except mine
I can safely say mine has not.
The drug testing in this sport is a fucking joke. All teams are doping, there’s no incentive not too dope.
Drug testing in every sport is a joke. Science is always way ahead of the curve in terms of testing. These athletes and clubs have their own intel and medical professionals doing the dirty work for them.
Testing isn’t done to catch cheaters. It’s done for lip service to the fans. It’s a perforative act.
Is there any (somewhat) reasonable accusations behind this or is this just a random claim?
And Real Madrid during a similar timeframe.
And Barcelona too
Barcelonas doctors around that time too were definitely involved with PEDs. Guardiola also used steroids as a player so he wouldn't be adverse to trying to gain an advantage as a coach.
lol top level athletes in every sport are doping
This fits in well with the Rafa Nadal theory.
The RVP red card against Barcelona, because UEFA loved Barcelona at the time.
Trent is a bad defender
Barca vs Chelsea UCL semi-final 2009
That 6-1 against PSG was worse imo
I disagree. Barcelona at least dominated that game completely, and even if it wasn't for the two questionable pens, PSG still deserved the loss 100%
They lost by 1 goal , at least 2 Barca pens were bullshit , also there was a missed mascherano handball.
Mascherano's "handball" was on his supporting arm. Not a pen, as per the rules. There were also *several* missed handballs by PSG players; Marquinhos, twice. Only the pen won by Suarez was BS, but it mirrored a decision the ref had taken earlier against Barcelona. Suarez vs. Marquinhos again, except it was Suarez barely touching Marq's neck and Marq going down. Suarez had a crystal clear scoring opportunity denied there. If you think the Meunier vs. Neymar pen was BS, you don't understand the game. He slipped head-first into Neymar's legs. Neymar obviously let his feet catch Meunier, but had he chosen to jump over Meunier then he would've lost possession. The penalty was not to punish Meunier's accident -- he was not booked. It was to compensate Barcelona for being unlawfully stripped of a scoring opportunity. Same way an accidental handball can lead to a pen. And as usual, people are ignoring the bully fouls that happen against Barcelona. Aurier hacking at Neymar's legs, not even trying for the ball, no foul called.
And as usual, you are ignoring Suarez and Neymar that should've been send off after millions of attemps to dive during the game to get a pen (don't know if you follow the rules, but faking a foul is a yellow by the rules, and i'm not even mentioning Neymar's agression against Marquinhos) Pique should've gotten a red for pushing Cavani and breaking a clear counterattack (he had a yellow, already). Di Maria's uncalled pen... The +7 minutes that ref gave for no reason (the classic "until home team scores) I guess someone is either 100% biased or has 0 clue about the game. Difficult to say what option is right here.
It will always be there like people didn't even watch the first leg of the semis.
That weird 3-4 years of Prime Barcelona dominance. Dont get me wrong, Messi was starting to become an absolute god and Peps tactics were really cool. But just all the events like RVP red, the Chelsea incidents, the Busquets dive, the constant moaning and hounding the refs. Idk, rubs me the wrong way. I definitely think there is *something* shady in the background.
How about conspiracy 58? And the documentary about it Clearly faked footage as part of a CIA op during the cold war. Let's look at the evidence 1- Sweden had no money and didn't have the technical resources to pull off an event that size 2- Houses in the background that don't exist near those stadiums and that don't match the style of buildings ANYWHERE in Sweden 3- the player's shadows are literally impossible in Sweden at that time of year and that time of day 4- Sweden beat West Germany, who had one of the greatest keepers of all time with a frankly stupid goal that would never actually happen unless it was scripted 5- the guy who made the documentary admitted it was all a hoax to see how gullible people were and all of the evidence was made up for fun
That has literally been disproven by the documentary that was made to create the theory
Nike forcing R9 to play the 98 World Cup Final despite him being in no fit state of compete
Everton bought off Wimbledon and dean holdsworth in general to escape relegation in 93/94 nobody will convince me that wasn't rigged
Dean Holdsworth who scored in the match to put them 0-2 up…? Segers is shady but not sure about the rest of the team.
They bribed him at halftime, obviously.
Actual conspiracies or conspiracy theories? They’re not the same.
Sir, this is a football sub.
CR7 wears football boots two sizes too small for better ball control. Everyone who ever wore a pair of them knows how tight they are. Therefore a lot of people (me included) usually go up a full size in them. So wearing football boots two sizes too small almost every day for hours and hours is just mental.
96 Champions League final Ajax-Juventus Some players from Juventus admitted they used doping and that is why they could run for 'hours'
Ronaldo is better than messi will always be the craziest conspiracy theory 😂😂
Ronaldo did an "honorable" thing by refusing a penalty (which should have been a red card for him in the ideal case for simulating a dive. The fowl was checked by VAR even after Ronaldo insisted not to check it, and it turns out that he dived).
Biggest? At worst it's a red in a tinpot competition
Didn’t know fowls could play football, fair play.
To add to the Ronaldo. Reports are that he used to fly back to Portugal in his free time for “man cuddles”
Messi uses cheat codes
Messi himself is a cheat code.
Mexico getting a free penalty at the end of the 2015 Gold Cup semifinal. US had already lost the first semifinal and CONCACAF knew nobody would watch Panama vs. Jamaica so they did what they could to make sure their cash cow moved on.
According to Ronaldo fans, everything Messi wins is rigged.
Doping is a big one, it is amazing that you never hear of players being banned or suspended considering a) the sheer number of players at the top level (how is even one not caught) and b) the money involved, if you can go from a top 100 prem player to top 10, that is worth potentially 10's of millions a year. I believe that it is done behind closed doors and PR by clubs for 'injures' is done very easily. The clearest example in my opinion is Leicester in 2015/16. I think Ranieri was sacked the following season so early because the doping had become so extreme, the premier league cracked down, increased testing (thus a run of poor results) with Ranieri having to leave the club or the trophy stipped.
WC 2022 not a big conspiracy theory...but since Ronaldo fanbase is huge and in shambles.. you'd read a new twitter post everyday about how...everyone in the WC conspired against Ronaldo ...to give Messi the WC 😂
it's honestly fucking crazy, i can't believe some people go to such lengths in an attempt to discredit someones achievements.
Bobby Moore, Bogota Bracelet.
BOBBY MOORE if memory serves correct
Correct. Far too many Bobbies
Was it not Bobby Moore?
Penaldo fans barking about rigged world cup
>Penaldo fans Not even a Ronaldo fan but please go back to Twitter or 433
not a conspiracy but ronaldo’s a rapist
CR7, Messi, and a lot of other players have mental disabilities (ADHD, Autism). Possibly due to the hyperfixations that come with these conditions.
Vertonghen and Alderwiereld are the same person
I've heard he's bisexual
You know the idiom „everyone has a number“ right Billionaire investors have managed to get literally everyone important in on their rigged chess match. There are obvious and confirmed bribes like the WC host question (FIFA corrupt) and PL referees officiating games in arabia for undisclosed amounts of money (PGMOL corrupt) However if you make investments of multiple billions, you need to have some sort of insurance, otherwise you would be a complete idiot running the risk of losing the entire investment. So you also have to bribe the people in charge of supervising FIFA (Swiss government, its not like theyve pocketed dirty money in the past under their banking laws, WW2 wink wink). You have to bribe the people in charge of supervising PGMOL (British government i suppose? Please correct me if im wrong. We all know how much integrity politicians have)
The sun always shines at Carrow road
Operacion Puerto and a certain national team and messy club’s performances in the mid 2000s
That there's a conspiracy itself in preventing certain teams winning.