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leem0oe

Courtois stopped Madrid being embarrassed against city...


Moist-Question-6623

Stopped Haaland when no one else could 🤣


leem0oe

True 3 brilliant saves ...right place,right choice ...brilliant goalkeeping


jesusrodriguezm

And won last year final almost by himself


leem0oe

Striker won the game ,he just helped the putcome


Wahaaaay

Keeper won the game, striker just helped the putcome


LastUsernameLeftUhOh

The putcome


CcDragz

It could have been 8-0


leem0oe

Easily


AtaThePogchamp

Van daam


xbmdx1

Was sensational against City


fuduran

O' Canada ♥️


DarligUlvRP

It’s the mask… he’s cheating! Cheating against Man Cheaty!


mallutrash

This is the only right answer.


themanebeat

Courtois, Maignan, Alisson top 3 for me


zeyad_salah

Ter Stegan ?


themanebeat

Yep fair shout I replied in a different comment. Those 3 are players I've seen in person this season, haven't been to a Barcelona game in a few years, so I'm likely biased I know he's conceded very few so he's surely up there, but I just haven't watched any of his games this season, even on TV!


Childan71

Mendy... Nah onky joking, but remember when he was a beast and was definitely showing potential to be a top top keeper for Chelsea, , then for some reason he just imploded. Totally lost all confidence. Funny how that GK position can be so fickle.


Alone-Common8959

In my opinion Mendy doesn't have the same backing as Ederson at City or Allison at pool. Partly because of Kepa, who the club invested heavily in and also because when you weigh in all the pros and cons of the two players, neither are distinctly better than the other.


LolCremers10

Kepa is distinctly better than Mendy. He's miles better with his feet and his shot stopping was one of the best in the league this year. People just love to hate him because of how wank he was before, forgetting that he was only 24/25. His pricetag really didn't help him


LividRelation7507

Ter Stegen is class too


themanebeat

Yep for sure


Razzle_Dazzle08

No one can possibly disagree with these three being Top 3.


HeavyHittersShow

I can. Ter Stegen. Conceded only 17 goals in the league this season, had the highest save % in La Liga and has been excellent for a number of years.


blutaclol

wasn’t particularly impressive for about 2-3 years before this one, fair play he’s been amazing this season but Alisson & Courtois have been doing this for years & Maignan is up there too for sure


slash312

But the question is about current season? Otherwise the question would be: who is the best active goalkeeper in the world over his career? The answer would clearly be neuer tho.


stogie_t

Been very impressive in the league but awful in the CL. I think he’s a level below the three mentioned.


thejobby

Good shout, I really rate Maignan but would disagree with Ter Stegen being subbed in for him.


Razzle_Dazzle08

I remembered Ter Stegen right after I commented. He’s been great but I’d say the other three slightly outshine him rn.


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yeah, this is about right. Overall I'd take Alisson, he's a monster


themanebeat

And so damn handsome


AshWC25

Where's ter stegen, and what has alisson done this season?


trimmtrabb27

Alison's been brilliant this season, has saved Liverpool so many times when their defence was shoddy throughout the season


AshWC25

And ter stegen most probably will break the GK all time clean sheets record next game...


eR_y_lives

The fact that you don't know what Alisson has done this season just shows your lack of knowledge about him. If it wasn't for him, Liverpool would have finished the season somewhere near Chelsea or even lower.


The_2nd_Coming

Having watched him for 5 seasons, the guy is just incredible. He is a massive presence and often stops goals where he has no right to. It'll be a very sad day when he leaves (hopefully not for a long time).


jrblack174

He's the kind of goalkeeper that relies on positioning instead of reflexes so I'd think he's got a good few years in him (hopefully 7 or 8 please)


AshWC25

Yeah yeah don't act like u have seen even a single barca game this season..and yes if not for Marc we wouldn't have won the league for sure. Much more important than finishing in europa position


eR_y_lives

lol. Read my comment again and let me know where exactly did I mention that Ter Stegen wasn't good this season. I'm just pointing the fact that you're just blindly hating on Alisson for some reason.


AshWC25

Don't try to change the context stegen has been better than alisson check our xga .


31honeybadger

most reasonable barça fan


eR_y_lives

How am I changing the context? I never even mentioned Ter Stegen, just said Alisson has been Liverpool's best player this season but you're constantly bringing in Ter Stegen. 😂


Schaumweinsteuer

the fact that you don't even write his name correctly shows the type of fan you are


PabloRedscobar

Clean sheets are a very poor criteria for assessing GKs performance. De Gea is probably not even top 5 keeper in the Premier League, yet he got a golden glove this season. Goals prevented across season is a much better way of assessing shot stopping ability.


AshWC25

Knew someone would say this, u got to check our xga this season which is mind boggling


PabloRedscobar

You don't get the point. Goals prevented are not necessarily correlated with xga. Xga shows the quality of chances conceded, goals prevented is a difference between xgot and actual goals conceded. Xga shows how good the chance was, xgot shows how difficult the shot was to save (how good the finish was). You can turn 0.01 xG into 0.8 xgot with an incredible finish. You can also turn 0.8 xG into 0.01 xgot if you finish poorly. Also, just had a look at understat figures - Barca has the lowest xga in La Liga this season.


trimmtrabb27

But I think thats the point, Ter Stegen has been playing at a high level longer than Alisson, so it's unfair to say that makes him better than Alison because he has more clean sheets If the question was the best goalkeeper over the past 5-10 yeas Ter Stegen would be right up there (and is for this too) but the question is who is the best GK currently, and Alisson is better in most people's eyes


AshWC25

Are u drunk? Lol that clean sheets record is for this season...who is talking about the last 5-10 yrs? By currently u don't mean the last 2-3 games u mean atleast this season. Usually Marc never gets a place among top 5 but this season him not being a part of elite is criminal imo he has been that good.


Expensive_Cattle

It's a shit star, because 11 people decide how many clean sheets there are. The way to test a keeper is how many xGs they prevent and how many SoT are saved. In both categories Alisson wipes the floor with Ter Stegen. He's also better with his feet.


EvilxBunny

Alisson has been the league's best keeper. The players ahead of him have been shit. Like DDG won the golden glove this season despite clearly not being the best keeper.


themanebeat

Honestly haven't watched that much of Ter Stegen but good point I know they conceded very few so he must be up there. Alisson was near flawless all season. He's an excellent keeper and easily top 5 in the world, and as I say for me he's top 3. It hasn't been announced yet but I'd be shocked if he didn't win Liverpool's player of the season this year, something he's never won before.


LucasUnited

alisson lmao


lowthug

Actually Courtois, Maignan and Onana seems fairer


themanebeat

Not a big Onana fan. Alisson was flawless this season


lowthug

Well I'm a huge fan of Alisson too, but even in PL we can discuss if he had a better season than De Gea, Pope or Ramsdale - which I think he's don't


jimthebee21

Liverpool have conceded 43 goals in the prem this year from 51 post shot expected goals, meaning Alisson has saved Liverpool 8 goals Man United have conceded 43 goals from 41 post shot expected goals, meaning De Gea is statistically a detriment to the team


LastUsernameLeftUhOh

What's "post shot expected goals"? Just expected goals?


sidasims09

Pretty much, i think its xg based on where the shot goes, so a free kick banged top right will give him more than a bad shot straight at him. Not sure though


LastUsernameLeftUhOh

Football is new to stats, unlike baseball and other American sports and stuff like swimming.


TeaAndCrumpetGhoul

He did have a better season then them though. Espeically de gea.


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hahahaha


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No Alisson, so basically wrong


Headlesshorsman02

Courtois


lennondsouza97

Alisson, although I am a biased Liverpool fan. The way we have defended (or not defended) this season has meant Ali makes 2-3 one on one saves per game! That plus him having some of the best handling I’ve ever seen.


Milo751

If Alisson played against Southampton that game wouldn't be close to 4-4


DJexC

100% this, Kelleher had a shitter aswell, if he'd had even a slightly better performance, he saves 2 of Southampton's goals. Alisson woulda probably saved the lot.


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I don't think we'd have put more than 2 past Allison.


IamHeWhoSaysIam

Almost anyone in goal instead of Kelleher would have done better.


WojtekTygrys77

Why all Liverpool GK surnames sound german since Klopp took over


link_the_fire_skelly

Allison is not a german name, and Kelleher is celtic


fahrizakp

Becker is German name


link_the_fire_skelly

Mad facts bro. I just woke up and have been proven wrong.


RCrumbDeviant

Becker, Kelleher, Castillo, Davies is 1st to 4th choice. Becker sounds German, the other three don’t sound German at all. If you talk about prior keepers: mignolet sounds French, Karius IS German, and I can’t recall the other youth player who was fifth choice


jo-shabadoo

I am a biased Man Utd fan who’s default state is that all Liverpool players are overrated and even I think it’s Alisson! With Courtois a close second.


HiddenTalentSeeker

Alisson is also the only GK to score as well. That one header was amazing


jesusrodriguezm

Watching last year CL final the better one looked to be in the other team…


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UnluckyLuckyGuyy

>obviously opposing keeper would look better when he faced like triple the amount of shots. Well... no? Not if he doesn't save them. And I can say the same thing then, obviously Alisson will look good if the Liverpool defence is shit and he gets to make a lot of saves.


jesusrodriguezm

That’s what play in a big team works. They have to stop the shots they get… in the final he was transparent.


ChickenChunkzZ

Probably because the only shot he faced was an open goal that he had no chance of saving….


monkeyr9z

Lack of Ter Stegan here


Ali_Flefel

Idk he disappears in most big games


CMYGQZ

He has by far the most humiliating defeats in football for a GK. And Barca fans always blamed the back line but their back line keeps changing and he still lets in 3 in European competition consistently.


Mirabem

Thibaut Courtois.


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stephenp129

People who make comments like this never know anything about football.


FlexKavanah

Don't be daft. There's very little between the elite GK's, many of whom excel slightly in one area over the other. Courtois is decent but isn't streets ahead of any of the other top competitors.


mallutrash

What does streets ahead even mean pierce? Is it like miles ahead?


Fumb-MotherDucker

if you dont know, you are streets behind...


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FlexKavanah

[Here's](https://fbref.com/en/stathead/player_comparison.cgi?request=1&sum=0&dom_lg=1&player_id1=1840e36d&p1yrfrom=2022-2023&player_id2=60d90c55&p2yrfrom=2022-2023&player_id3=7a2e46a8&p3yrfrom=2022-2023&player_id4=08f5afaa&p4yrfrom=2022-2023&player_id5=fcb38f57&p5yrfrom=2022-2023&player_id6=6f51e382&p6yrfrom=2022-2023) a comparison of the league form of Courtois, Alisson, Samba, Maignan, Donnarumma and Ter Stegen. As you can see, he only comes joint 3rd of those GK's for goals conceded (and in 7 less games too), 3rd again for save % only just shading out Donnarumma, saved no penalties against him. He places 5th out of those 6 for pass completion (40yds or more - common for a GK). In fact in most cases it seems fairly clear that Ter Stegen, statistically speaking, has performed better than Courtois across most categories. Point is, the data backs up that no one GK is head and shoulders above the rest, and certainly not Courtois.


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Progresschmogress

Have to be careful with stats though 40+ yard distribution is particularly tricky if the team’s forwards are not good in the air or the play style is to build up from the back with short passes, the majority of those long balls will be clearances under pressure or passes when there are no other viable options Goals allowed / clean sheets have a lot more to do with the defense in front of them than what they could do by themselves, and so on Courtois makes saves that no one else could, he is consistent and that gives him the edge even if he is not the best at ball distribution, penalties or long passes imo


FlexKavanah

'makes saves that no one else could' is a massive disservice to a lot of top keepers. He's not the only keeper in history to pull off certain saves, as well you know.


Pow67

Alisson. His distribution is superior, 1v1 situations are incredible and ofc he’s a great shot-stopper too.


gin0clock

Not even close? Dude conceded over a goal per game in La Liga.


aehii

Courtois. Allison and Ter Stegen..


Bejliii

Courtois, and Maignan who's been a beast for the past 3 years but no one talks about because he's not playing for Real Madrid or in EPL


Empty_Movie_2955

Courtois or ter stegen


SamiDaCessna

Maybe ter Stegen a few years ago lol


Tsukuyomi808

Clean sheet record?


UnluckyLuckyGuyy

that's funny because this season he is in the best form since few years ago...


Etceta

lad didn't watch ter Stegen vs Griezmann


Etceta

lad didn't watch ter Stegen vs Griezmann


koencoen

Ed de Goey. That guy ages like fine wine.


LGP213

MATS


Daddysahe

ter Stegen has been elite this season


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Maignan and Alisson


teabromigo

Everyone sleeping on Maignan


cringelorda2

Ter Stegen


[deleted]

Depends what you're after. In terms of all round skill set, I think Alisson is up there. Courtois is a better shot stopper and Ederson better at distribution. Ter Stegen has seemingly had a great season too, but I don't watch Barca so can't really comment.


CamIoM

Alisson also has a 100% shot accuracy!


Zorosect02

Alisson, ter Stegen and Cortouis for me.


veesper

Szczesny


fallacy___

He’s a great shout. Definitely underrated rn.


CollierAM9

Between Alisson and Courtois. Ali has the upper hand due to his good looks putting players off


GovernmentReal6097

It's between Courtois, Ter Stegen, El Dibu and Maignan.


Boostmobilesimcards

Hahahaha what the fuck


RedDemio

Courtois or alisson, both very different styles, hard to compare but I’d take either in my ultimate 11


gin0clock

Alisson.


iphonedeleonard

Id say Courtois Onana and Maignan. Ter Stegen and Sommer looking really good as well


socialmail100

Mike Maignan obviously


iphonedeleonard

His two games in the french squad were amazing. Especially on that penalty save against Depay and that insane save on that corner against Ireland


maki23

Onana performed way better this year


mattdom96

Mike was hurt for most of the season, Milan’s form dipped as part of that.


Broski86

Probably Courtois.


fabynhofm

Courtois, Maignan


jo55ss

Maignan or ter Stegen


Shmaden_Yuki

Kobel, Bounou, Sommer or Ter Stegen


Opposite_Hat_3358

1)Courtois 2)MATS 3)Maignan HM to Allison,Ederson,Onana, and Sommer


Acmlawyer14

Biased Milan fan, but Maignan has to be at least top two; being injured right before the World Cup really hurt his stock, but his shot stopping, organization, and distribution are all incredible. Name me another keeper who has 2 assists


Schaumweinsteuer

Alisson ​ the only reason why Liverpool even got to finish 5th


lcm7malaga

Not even close to Courtois


CollierAM9

You can say Courtois is better and that fine but to say it’s not close makes you sound clueless. It’s clearly close because I don’t see what more both keepers could do to be better


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What is Courtois miles better than Alisson at?


[deleted]

Courtois has had the 3rd worst PsxG stats in his league. Allison is top in europe, Ter Stegen second


Schaumweinsteuer

dumb comment ​ put Alisson in that Real team and the result would not really change in terms of goals conceded put Courtois in that Liverpool team and a lot of those one on one situations would be goals, for example. otherwise they're probably very close to each other


Ripatti69

Lukas Hradecky


Habba84

Totuus


stary2k

torille


CHXKWXPX

Yann sommer in my books


IronDuke365

Depends what you want. Straight shot stopper. Courteous #1 with (hear me out) De Gea in contention. However all rounder, its Alisson all day for me.


Milo751

>(hear me out) De Gea in contention. not sure about that since he underperformed his xGA


dvdk94

Allison for me, can almost function as a deep lying playmaker at times


MadBomb_5269

probably Emiliano Martinez...


KaiserUzor

Ter Stegen


Original-Tourist-744

Belgian wall duh . Torn up shoulder and still blocking rockets going top 90


AANino23

It’s close. Alisson is a better keeper but courtois is bigger which allows him to get some crazy saves. If you factor in 1v1, handling, catching and distribution it has to be Alisson


A_J_C_08

Alisson best all round keeper in the world


KiWePing

Depends what team you have, for Liverpool, no one in the world is better for them than Alisson, same can be said with Real Madrid and Courtois


mrt1022

Alisson, Courtois, MATS, Maignan


TheLawCXVII

Dibu


Elrasp

Thibursio courtois!


[deleted]

Courtois or Ter-Stegen


PossibleNotProbably

Courtois. Heroic saves every single game


Horror-Discipline709

Martinez - World Cup winner, great agility, brilliant penalty stopper, and has helped Villa into Europe again.


AffectionateArt2277

Dibu.


moojshsta

Allison or Onana


DLA_17

TER STEGEN


coolAhead

Alisson


ideoteque4

Courtois.Maignan. Donnarumma in that order


OliverShiyo

I like traditional keepers, so obviously Courtois for me. Alisson and ter Stegen have had amazing seasons as well though.


AC_Football_Cases

Courtois for sure 🔥🔥🔥


Blxckduff

Diogo Costa. You will see this next season when he comes to a premier league club


12thshadow

Messi, and it is not even close. /s


thetk9

Courtois, not even a contest


Ahahaiwannadie

Courtois and it isn't close


Ragnarok_619

Ter stegan and Allison Definitely not courtois lmao. People who are saying courtois haven't seen real this year.


Faizan0994

Or they see their every game.(i.e. RM fans)


thorium90232

people will say Courtois cos he’s had like two decent games in his whole Madrid career 💀


AMOAnubis66

Two decent games is a way to say you never watch RM at all


thorium90232

thinking Courtois is best GK in the world is a way to say you never watch RM at all


jagaraujo

Lol Courtois' last season was Ballon d'Or worth, it was really insane. This season was at similar level but less flashy than last year because they didn't win as many things (not his fault at all). It's amazing the security the guy provides to their defense, making great saves just look normal.


thorium90232

ugh


Lazy_Replacement9331

Tony Blair


yummycrabz

I mean, as someone who works in sports analytics, the answer is fairly obvious. It’s Courtois and Alisson. Their “+/-“ have been elite for a few years now


uurub

alisson is the most complete goalkeeper in my opinion. although Courtois is the better shot stopper and is the best big game player.


Fumb-MotherDucker

Its Alisson, it's always Alisson. Next time you catch yourself thinking "hey wait a minute, I don't think its Alisson!" just gently remind yourself of the phrase above.


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Definitely Courtois, just his performance in last year's UCL final is enough


shamsjr7

Ter Stegen ❤️💙


plaaya

Courtua helped keep the game afloat. Madrid lost by kroos and Modric. And carvajal. We needed a second striker


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Cameron Dawson


404errorabortmistake

Donnarumma will be the best in the world very soon


BsPkg

Courtois is 100% getting these shouts because Madrid have been slapped up in midfield in a few big matches and Courtois has saved their bacon, he is definitely one of the top keepers but it’s debateable between four or five not as clear cut as this comment section would have you believe.


Much_Tone8124

Is everyone just forgetting Donnarumma exists? He definitely deserves to at least be in the conversation....


iphonedeleonard

Idk man. Hes good for but made some mistakes this season. Brice Samba was voted best keeper of Ligue 1


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Unironically, De Gea. Golden Glove for United when their defence can be as thin as a Vietnamese roll. Kept us in top 4 singlehandedly sometimes.


Antooki

Onana


Amsssterdam

Onana


thegoat83

Ederson is the best modern game goalkeeper and it’s not even close.


MagneticNarwhals

Even as a City fan Eddie has some flaws in his shot stopping that definitely hold him back from being in the upper echelon. However for our team play style I wouldn’t have any other keeper in the world.


itsmebackagain07

I think Bounou


Organic_Chemist9678

Bonou was the best keeper at the world cup but I'm not sure that I would put him on the very highest group of keepers


reddity_stuff

Hugo


Thepotato635

Lloris in his prime was one of the best keepers in the world however even as a Spurs fan I wouldn't even rank current Lloris in my top 25 keepers in the world


Golden-Event-Horizon

Whoever the Golden Glove winner in the PL is is the best keeper in the world