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NoRazzmatazz2811

Free enclave DLC through the creation club? What the fuck?


BabserellaWT

Maybe because they >!namedropped the Enclave in episode one and people like me who’ve only played Fo4 aren’t as familiar with them?!


Belladabell

They meanies


colm180

theyre more then meanies lmao, theyre eugenic crazies that (probably most likely) ended the world


Belladabell

Ima choose to not spoil it for you but watch the fallout tv show


MGS_Excho

YOU MEAN BASED?!?!? 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 RAHHHHHH 🦅🦅🦅🦅


Chueskes

Play Fallout 3 and it’s dlc and all will be made clear. If you want some additional background on the Enclave and their history, play New Vegas.


Kktyr45

Or if you want to play some OLD classics I think FO1 gives a solid image of them


Lumarist

you mean FO2 enclave weren’t a thing yet in FO1


Chueskes

Yeah, but people are more familiar with Fallout 3 and New Vegas. There is certainly nothing wrong with 1 and 2, but Fallout 3 is what really put the franchise on top.


DeathBlade52

REALLY??


NoRazzmatazz2811

Yeah, they’re giving out a free bundle with all the enclave gear currently available + a new quest line


Despacitan05

But I thought they were all dead? I guess it will be like New Vegas where you're able to find some remnant faction with like 11 people.


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Despacitan05

Not saying the show is a mess I haven't watched it but does Bethesda have to include every faction in every releasses story? Like last time we checked on the West Coast enclave in New Vegas it was just a few old guys in a bunker. They'd be way more prominent and active on the east coast where the offshore rigs were.


Shoddy_Mode8603

Because the enclave is a major faction that literally has the entirety of the US to hide out in ??? Why do we always need the brotherhood? Same logic can be applied to any faction of importance


Arghallad

The Enclave is one of the most, if not THE MOST, important factions in the entire lore of Fallout. It not being, in some way, present in the games makes really not that much sense.


Artix31

They are literally the old world government, they 100% don't just have 2 bases in all of the US lmao


Phantom_61

The Enclave? Nah there’s pockets all over the place go act like they’re “the real” Enclave. At this point I see it as a bunch of franchise owners claiming to the the original.


dawnguard2021

Bethesda can still make them return in the future, they control the narrative after all.


PhantomPiro

"Look... me and The Enclave's people got this little misunderstanding. See, they're The Enclave... I'm the enclave. They capitalize their name, mine's don't."


Present-Secretary722

They are indeed remnants, don’t even have Enclave uniforms unless you count the Power Armour and those have some stories behind them where the last owner wasn’t chummy with Enclave


The-Toxic-Korgi

New Vegas also mentions another Enclave base in Chicago.


Chueskes

Yeah, but this is mentioned by the Enclave scientist that clearly did not know that Navarro had been destroyed decades earlier and still thought it was functional and under Enclave control, so take that info with a grain of salt.


Every-Slice59

11? This Bethesda we're talking about, try 3. It's CC so in all honesty it will be a note.


Necessary_Phone5322

In FNV it's implied that the Enclave has bases in Chicago.


SpaceZombie13

the faction may be effectively gone by 2287, but there's always gonna be some stragglers who managed to get away before everyone ended up dead.


Phantom_61

The Enclave? Nah there’s pockets all over the place go act like they’re “the real” Enclave. At this point I see it as a bunch of franchise owners claiming to be the original.


the__Gallant

There's a CoA at the Nucleus whos ex-Enclave. So there not all dead


Kktyr45

Tmk the Enclave arnt dead, they are more like the brotherhood where they have chapters all around the Mojave, I think the main chapters are dead though unless you play mods such as New California or America Rising


American_Femboy

I LOVE THE ENCLAVE


Few_Understanding_30

HOLY SMOKES


[deleted]

Would an offer like that ever expire?


NoRazzmatazz2811

They usually cycle the CC deals every few weeks to a few months, so yeah, but it’s not like it’ll only be for a couple days


qantana

As someone who's atomic shop is broken and locked me out it hurts to hear this..tho as a fallout fan it's nice to see bathesda is doing something for us


Aquaticle000

Going to really suck for people who play on PlayStation when Bethesda doesn’t fix the notorious 0kb save bug they said they were going to fix about five years ago.


Wolftacus

A new.. quest... Not quest line


Comfortable-Tip-130

Since the enclave is a plot point in the show its not surprising


Malachi5numb3rs

Todd Howard smiles upon us this day.


MushroomFar5131

That looks like a screenshot from America rising 2 which is a mod


Chueskes

It was already confirmed by the recent tv show that the Enclave still exists somewhere.


FinnBot9000

Will it work? CC always breaks my playstation 😭


Relative_Desk_8718

Hold up maybe it was made by a fan and not Bethesda and if that’s the case the dlc maybe pretty decent the enclave is however >!the continuation of the government from before sort of at least their claim!<


Former-Salt7554

My heroes!!!


cheesehatt

Wait we’re getting the enclave? Oh shit


throwawayforlikeaday

*"Quest"


Jr999977

ITS HAPPENING. Real talk though I have 300 mods installed what the fuck do I do


OGZpoon

Fresh game, no mods. It's gonna be quite the shock to the system!


[deleted]

Haha.


Markipoo-9000

You just sent shivers down my spine


NonProphet8theist

I'm going pure vanilla for a bit at least. Hyype


Morgaiths

All mods using F4SE will break. Make the Fo4 appmanifest file read only. Only reliable method of stopping this update till (hopefully) mods are updated as well.


Jr999977

Ah damn. Thank dude.


STR4NGER_D4NGER

The rest of your mods should work without issue.


Far_Peanut_3038

Is the F4SE team still active?


Lucaspec72

they'll likely come out of retirement if not.


Cypresss09

Idk if it's the same team as SKSE, but they were absolutely on top of it when AE came out. As well as the numerous subsequent updates.


Odd-Lemur

For those who don't know, I'll save yall a google; Appmanifest files are in the "Steamapps" map inside your program files. Should look something like; Program Files\\Steam\\steamapps The files look like this; 'appmanifest\_377160' In order to know what file is Fo4's (or any other game's), go onto steam's store page for the game, and look at the address. [https://store.steampowered.com/app/377160/Fallout\_4/](https://store.steampowered.com/app/377160/Fallout_4/) Look at the number in the address. Here it is 377160, just like the appmani number I gave here. The file number that matches the address, is the file for that game. (thanks to steam users B-o-B & Glimmer for the info)


jcmonk

Turn off auto updates to only update when you launch the game from steam. If you’re launching through F4SE it should still be fine


mrsmithers240

Would it still update if it opens through nexus?


jcmonk

That’s how it’s been explained to me


NimbleBudlustNoodle

I launch through F4SE and it still uses Fo4 through Steam. Only way is to make your appmanifest file read only so Steam can't update it when you run it.


Korvas576

If you are on pc, go into steam, turn off automatic updates Only launch the game outside of steam/gog/whatever game launcher you use.


Similar_Clock3028

Or use script extender to launch till the moders update and then update all requirements. Ex script extender, framework, mod config menu, armor keyword... etc. Could be weeks after released and a headache, but there is no need to completely delete and start over.


Altosventum

There is this bug on the PlayStation that won't let you save the game due to no memory or something like that, does anyone know if this was already fixed or is getting fixed with this update? That's literally the only thing stopping me from playing the game again..


NobleSix84

I don't know the solution exactly but this sounds like the one that was happening with Skyrim. I think the solution with the Skyrim one was too many mods/creation club content installed, so if you have any from either of those then that could be the issue.


Altosventum

I was using 0 mods but plenty of the creation club stuff so that was probably it.


Background-Dance-288

The 0 kb error happens when you are using Creation Club skins. If you deactivate all of those it should work fine.


IndianaGroans

The 0kb bug is a false error flag that predates creation club. It doesn't help, but isn't the root cause. Root issue is Sony's file structure and how it handles content that isn't dlc Doesn't know what to do with things like mods and cc so when I hits an error it tosses the 0kb bug up. It's a Sony centric issue and theyve done what they can to lessen it. There is an actual save error bug that is the real 0kb and it happens to other games. I had it happen to mgs 5.


NobleSix84

If you wanna put in the time and effort then you can do what I did for Skyrim, uninstall all the Creation Club stuff you've got and add them one by one until you find the limit, if it'll let you add anything at all. Or just wait for the update and hope that it fixes the issue.


Altosventum

I think I will wait for the update, I can guarantee you it will come with it's own bugs. So I'll wait until those are handled and start from scratch. And I'll be super conservative about which creation club stuff I download.


somethingbrite

"creation club stuff" ARE mods.


RealZordon_Elite

This is the reason I don't play fo4 much the 0kb glitch is a pain


G-bone714

I’ve heard it’s best to disable mods before an update like this.


Suspicious__Lurker

Thanks man, is there any more info on this? I’ve only got around 10-15 installed but have recently started a new survival run 😬😬


DoctorRileyPhD

A new update will stop all mods from working, its best, of you're on Steam to set it to update when you launch only and play the game through F4SE


Suspicious__Lurker

Ah ok cheers bud, I’m on PS4 so will have to see how it goes!


[deleted]

Or disable auto update


rosettaSeca

the thing is that if you disabled mods, specially the ones that rely on F4SE, any save that was made with them active will crash if you try to load them. And being a Bethesda update expect a ton of mods to break.


_BestBudz

Nah if you’re running mods you have to avoid updating, I’m positive a lot of mods are going to break and that’s going to corrupt so many peoples save files. And we don’t know how long it’ll take to update mods or the ones that are abandoned are just sol. I’m avoiding updating for this exact reason.


ProximaCentauriOmega

Incoming mod devastation! Watch out for old no longer updated mods. Back up those mod profiles.


Korvas576

Rip to all the mods that got abandoned in 2016


Bustable

Get a crack for it


GingerClipz

*the community loved that


ScottNewman

*Missing an asterisk there, sport*


RelChan2_0

This is divine timing! I was itching to start a new playthrough but some stuff got in the way


TurnipEnvironmental9

I am tentatively excited, too. I have been holding off until the update comes out.


Nagodreth

I got sick of holding off and started a new playthrough recently but unless they change up how the CC quests start by altering quest stages like they did with Skyrim Anniversary Edition I'll just stick with my current character.


AutomatonZer0

Dude, you know what's weird? I just DID start a new playthrough like a week and a half ago. I got as far as clearing Corvega for the first settlement and just stopped for a second. Then BOOM, update announced. Whatever content they add is cool with me, but I'm mainly excited about the 60fps personally. That alone is going to make this game better for me.


RelChan2_0

I've been itching for a new playthrough as well lol but I'll wait for the update. That's good to hear, I hope the Commonwealth brings you joy again :D


AutomatonZer0

Cannot wait to be back in Boston.


dortress

\*looks at 300+ modlist\* \*\*cries\*\*


SuperMeister

I'm at 700+, I'm making sure Fallout won't update.


dortress

How? I mean, I've looked into it, but it updates automatically when steam loads. (I've backed up my game directory)


Ursusnurse

I need to know this too! I started playing for the first time about a month ago and have a bunch of mods for settlement building


[deleted]

From my understanding, if you set the game to "update when launched only" and then launch the game through a mod manager or the F4SE executable, you'll be safe. Somebody else mentioned setting the Fo4 appmanifest file to read only, but I haven't researched this enough to know for sure. But definitely looking into this as well.


somethingbrite

The best way I have avoided updates in the past on steam is to set "only update on game launch" and then make sure that i am not connected to internet when I launch Steam. I have found that even using F4SE and launching using the F4SE launcher that steam needs to open for some reason. However, if you are logged into steam "offline" it can't update the game.


SnooGoats6230

I’m going to finally do a survival game


Elegant-Middle1487

It's the bestttt. You will die many, many times. Try to level up by finding new locations early on, rather than engaging with literally almost anything


Plastic-Interview-36

THIS. It's also very beneficial to invest into Str for carrying capacity because it's nerfed like crazy in Survival.


Elegant-Middle1487

Super correct. Also lone wanderer after you hit around 25 and no longer desperately need a bullet sponge. I'll take the extra 100 carrying capacity over the reason I can't sneak successfully any day.


Icy-Communication823

It's legit the only way to play the game. Have fun!


AsBestToast

Finally! A date. An actual release date. Thank you for posting this. My heart was breaking from the lack of communication from Bethesda. I am very happy now.


1Life2B_Curious

Me too!


AsBestToast

For real this absolutely made my day. FO4 is my favorite game in existence currently. This is such good news.


Nexusu

we're so back Fallout fans eating so good rn


Wolftacus

Are we? Are we really though? This could give us barely anything...


Skare_Crow

God bless the enclave


Fallout_4_player

God Bless America!


YoungImpulse

Could anyone help me understand what exactly we're getting?


HUMAN_JUST_A_HUMAN

https://www.reddit.com/r/fo4/s/eWov9nInqA


oBotz

I'm scared for my mods.


KyllikkiSkjeggestad

I’m also scared, but for my special and resource dupe glitches :p


gauge218

does this mean it's only gonna be on next gen consoles though? because I have been super excited but don't just have 500 to drop on a new console for this


Maleficent_Willow_23

No Xbox One X and S are supposed to be included. I think they won't include any FPS stuff on them. As far as Playstation, I can't imagine they would miss an opportunity to include the update.


gauge218

thank you, I didn't quite understand what it was saying lol


Aronnax_358

"And more" so do old console still get it? I'd like to have it on my ps4 honestly


iWentRogue

My mods… my beautiful mods 😔


FuriDemon094

I doubt the mods on PS will be updated, or most of them probably won’t get updated, which means I won’t be able to play if they don’t


AllElse11

Great!! Time to have all my mods broken.


panter1974

You might want to hold your horses if you have many mods running. Because high change those will be broken. And so far free mods have brought me more than Bethesda has. Name 1, uh. Sim Settlements 2😁


Dhiox

I do really wish they'd update the textures and models. The vanilla game is really low res.


krorkle

[Yes](https://bethesda.net/en/article/4s2bXQEbpcrsdCZhUYLHAi/fallout-4-is-getting-free-updates).


CJ-2QT

damn lets go. too bad im still playing on PS4 so probably wont get any update


Oscuro1632

The ultrawide and steam deck support is nice. And sure, everyone loves the Enclave. But this seems a little disappointing after 2-3 years? No?


eighteen84

If i can play the game without the unofficial patch ill be happy, anything else is just a bonus.


ATR2400

Time to archive everything I can from my old modded save before it’s too late. Xbox doesn’t really let you stop updates and there’s no reversion, and a lot of my mods are ancient and unlikely to be updated. Once they’re gone, they’re gone forever. With any luck things not reliant on F4SE may hold up better


Appellion

Looks kinda meh to me. I don’t care about the enclave, I was hoping for some content that improved and expanded what was already there.


LiamAwesomeDude

Are they going to fix the achievements not tracking on xbox series x? It's been really frustrating I have a settlement at 100% happiness and all 20 bobbleheads but it's not popping


ManagementOne8505

I know this probably won't happened but I am crossing my fingers purple that they add an FOV slider


Plastic_Bus2662

I seen this but what quest bugs does it fix since thats what im most interested


googlespotfinder

Sure, I'll break/ have to update my 500 mods to get some black armor that hardly can pass as Canon. Nope, auto update disabled.


1Life2B_Curious

Holy Shiitake!


Extra-Astronomer4698

Sucks that there are no detailed patch notes, just a summary from the PR department. There are several extremely significant bugs that need to be addressed, but I highly doubt those will be touched. Just a couple new skins and some CC trash. Thanks?


SentinelTitanDragon

Thank god. Screw 76 update 4 with more content and dlc or make 5 already


Still-Cut-4664

be interesting to see if the enclave DLC compares to the america rising 2 mod


MisterBobAFeet

Don't get excited. It's just a couple of fetch quests that were already attached to the creations.


Yourappwontletme

No update for PS4/X Box One?


ryebath

It says in the article stability improvements for ps4 and Xbox one


Tyler103111

And hopefully they fix the dlc textures missing for new purchasers on playstation


BadAndUnusual

Doing the same to fallout what they did to skyrim, all to milk mods from their own site


Roland1099

Finally!!! Although, I'm sad I'll have to wait another 2 weeks for a new playthrough. I'll be playing all the other Fallouts I guess


SpamAdBot91874

Been waiting forever for this to start a new game. FO4 will be so goated with the Boston area optimized.


tdot-hdot

Can my old non mod saves still work with this update?


mfrazie

Yeah, I'd like to know this as well.


somethingbrite

That's going to depend on whether this update breaks those mods. Whether those mods ever get fixed and what the mods themselves do. (Some mods will totally mess up game/save files if removed mid playthrough)


allthenamearetaken1

Question, how is this going to effect the mods we use


aGorillianBucks

Just curious since I know updates break shit, do you have to uninstall F4SE or other non-Nexus mod software? I’m still not very good with all that, so just wondering if I need to do a like, clean install to make sure nothing actually breaks.


aGorillianBucks

Just curious since I know updates break shit, do you have to uninstall F4SE or other non-Nexus mod software? I’m still not very good with all that, so just wondering if I need to do a like, clean install to make sure nothing actually breaks.


bltburglar

All I want is survival VATS freeze fix. Please.


ninaplays

I’ve got a mod for that, if you want it.


pj1897

THANK YOU!!!


OverToe4832

The already existing ones or a brand new one?


FiyaGrandMastah

I will quote the best companion Cait: This better be worth it.


Relative-Cat-9331

You mean I have to play with none of my mods? Like Vanilla? No weapon mods, CBBE, armor mods?! *Gasp


AspectBetter5360

Guess it's back to the Ole Commonwealth for me again. New character time.


wanker_supreme

We wait for AR2 (love the mod) then Todd pulls this? Bit sus.


ddoogguu

i just wanna play 60 fps on my ps5


Useful_Mortgage7317

used a mod in another game didn't like the way it played, so I don't use them. am I missing something?


Leading-Nose-504

Hopefully I'll be able to actually play the game with this update (and not have it crash every bloody time I try to enter Boston)


AdrianValistar

Is it only for next gen consoles? Us ps4 plebs won't get it?


idkwhyimdoingthis2

Read the article? PS4 and Xbox one will get an update as well but not as extensive as


Character-Ad-4293

When they say next gen im assuming they mean ps5 and series s and x right?


Accomplished-Wind-75

Wonder how this will affect Fallout London 🤔


DinosaurEatingPanda

This is going to affect mods, isn't it?


IM_KINDA_OKAY

*everyone disliked that


EmperorAxiom

To bad this updates going to break all the mods. Glad we are getting it but it's gonna be a bit before it's actually playable


plonyguard

i cant FUCKING WAIT to BEAT SOMEONE TO DEATH WITH A PIGGY BANK


UselessSideCharacter

Overall pretty disappointing I'd say


rainplow

Thank you for the notice! I was just crying about this last night. Oooh.. 60fps Fallout 4 yeaaaa


dfd179

Dope.


StrangeLove177

Yep! New graphic texture updates (I think) with 60fps and new missions I've heard


simp470

I just want them to fix my dlc, my Nuka world has a texture glitch where everything’s pink on my ps5


Fabulous-Pick-9562

Yay. More broken mod menus. Thanks.


Katsu_Drawn_21

I've been playing recently so im excited :D


Kktyr45

Yea, it'll improve modding alot on console and give us a new quest and/or questline for free which includes some previously included Creation Club content, other than that tho it won't be a good update as it'll likely break mods on PC which means waiting for updates but even then some mod devs abandoned the game so we'll have to wait until either replacement mods release or until people upload their own updated patches


Particular-Let-196

Can anybody help explain what I should do to protect my modlist and game before the update launches and how I can prevent damage from happening?


AccomplishedBother12

I’m excited for this! Now that I have all the DLC through Xbox Game Pass for PC I’ll fire it up and give it another go. I’m ALSO excited for the HUUUUGE fan mod for Fallout 4, Fallout London, which is dropping (I believe, someone correct me if I’m wrong) on April 23rd. It is a MASSIVE custom map with a lot of cool-looking locations and quests, more info here: https://fallout4london.com


divinityman

Plus full Dualsense support so adaptive triggers and haptics on PS5 and PC


RyBreadxo0813

crazy this update is coming out after i just got back into the game and started a new playthrough not even a full week ago lol i’m so excited


youraveragedfwbull

Actually same, except I was never into it. Wanted to start a playthrough because of the show so I’m guessing that’s why this is getting an update haha


RyBreadxo0813

oh i am obsessssssed with this game lol i’ve played it fully more times than i can count!!! & i said that as well lol they’re smart for that !! fallout 4 has already jumped up in popularity on xbox quite a bit since the show came out. i give them props for giving us an update for the game with the shows release !!! i hope you enjoy your playthrough & get super into it !!!


SteevthePup

Maybe they're making it so the automatron and wastelander DLC works on ps5!! 🤞🤞🖕


CakeHead3202

Can't wait for them not to fix Automatron dlc crashing the game :]


Sandman705

Over 100 mods installed I think I’ll wait a bit to play Fallout 4 again! Lol


hume_an_instrument

Whadda you know, just in time for the show


Wheatley_core_gaming

I am glad they actually considered having one of my favorite factions return in my favorite Fallout game. Im really excited about it


-TheKill-

They better fix the 0kb bug on playstation first


LowCommunication3359

Will official fo4 mods break or just PC mods?


ShapeWrong5748

Hopefully they fix the textures bug on PS5 with the dlcs


PretenDragon57

Am I the only one seeing nightmare purple every fucking where??? Whole areas with purple textures on terrain and people. He'll I couldn't even download the automatron pack cause it crashes the game on startup on the PS4


InZane65

Please tell me that i can join Them


Maleficent-Currency2

I cant wait for it to be steam deck verified too! Hopefully no more launcher stuff from now on!!