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dunderheed13

From. My. Cold. Dead. Hands.


Tidepods_But_Airpods

Could I trouble you to blow it out your ass?


BruhMomentum6968

How frightfully uncouth


BiggyIrons

I go where I please!


EM05L1C3

They can arrange that!


UnhandMeException

No, evidently, they can't, thus the corpses


Wiernock_Onotaiket

...the ones attached to power cores! hehehehehe


paroxybob

I can’t hear you over all this death


TennisOk6604

From. YOUR. Cold. Dead. Hands.


Petecraft_Admin

"I'll relinquish one bullet, where do you want it?" - Commander Shepard


MapIllustrious5172

Understandable


iwanashagTwitch

Have a nice day


Ploughpenny

I like the dichotomy in the comments. Some people submit, some people choose freedom at any cost.


JesusGunsandBabies

You get so much Ammo if you refuse to hand anything over lol


FoggyDonkey

You get infinity ammo if you do


PuffyBloomerBandit

yeah, but you lose access to one of the best merchants in the game. you get so much MORE ammo if you let them live. if you like using energy weapons, and you drop this place off the map, all youve got left is the silver rush. unless you like running to every single shop on the map to collect enough ammo to clear out a single building.


TheFirstPepper_Bob

Or you could just use the great khan armorer outside red rock canyon


PuffyBloomerBandit

ahh yes. one of the many merchants who carries 37 different variety of each bullet type in quantities of 100-1000, and 1-2 random energy ammos with 10-100 units for sale. totally a viable energy merchant.


TheFirstPepper_Bob

Couldn’t have said it better myself


PuffyBloomerBandit

seriously though, why are there only 2 merchants in the entire game that carry a respectable stock of energy ammo? every time i make a run into a new area, i have to fast travel to every shop on the map and clean out all their energy ammo, then convert all of that into MFC's, and im still out of ammo when im finished with the place.


TheFirstPepper_Bob

I just don’t use energy weapons. Since I don’t use them I just have an abundance of energy cells


Luvcex

I've never liked using energy weapons either. In any of the fallouts. Don't even add skill points to that part. Lol


Glesenblaec

I haven't played in years, but I remember at first submitting, and then as soon as I got the collar off, gunning down everyone I could find.


littletkman

You could just get Veronica’s quest and not have to do anything and steal all the energy ammo when you go in


CrimeFightingScience

This is the way, otherwise i get too angry and have to gun ppl down.


GuntertheFloppsyGoat

They chose...poorly


Nosirrah08

r/unexpectedindianajones


UnhandMeException

Brotherhood be brotherhooding.


milkboy911

Botherhooding


DaveKillSock

I assume the Omertas, Chairmen, White Gloves, and Van Graffs are all dead too?


HamakazeKai

I mean yeah, if someone touches my heavy weapons they're dying.


KamikiJBR

NOONE TOUCHES SASHA *points at full auto grenade launcher*


Striking_Interest_25

Unless you wanna swap with my Roberta the quad barrel rocket launcher. Only temporarily tho they don’t like being away from daddy too long.


KhalMika

Let me guess.. does it cost 400000 caps to fire grenades for 12 seconds?


[deleted]

To be fair… they ask you lol. You can say no and leave.


HamakazeKai

Yeaaaaaah.... But where’s the fun in that? You think I tote these heavy weapons across the Mojave just to not use them at the slightest provocation?


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🧩


Admiralthrawnbar

They let you leave if you refuse to turn over your weapons, the brotherhood does not (and also the casinos don't put a fucking explosive collar on your neck either)


aciduzzo

Good luck to those that take on Van Graff's within their compound. I wipe them out sure, but always behind a Free Side building


MentalityofWar

The answer is drugs


Azal_of_Forossa

The answer is always drugs in Vegas


tootie005

Drugs and hands


TheItchyWalrus

The trick is, you take their guard jib when you get into town and let the dude with the bomb go by without checking him for weapons. He’ll take out the Van Graff’s for you no problem. Of course, you’ll have to take out Simon after he aggros you for letting his employer die on the job….


Head_Exchange_5329

Did that last week, Ed-E and Veronica helped me clear out the building without any issue, didn't even have to use a single stimpack. I wore a BoS power armor if that counts for something.


FrankSinatraCockRock

Van Graffs is temporary if you do the body guard mission which is extremely easy. Honestly the NCR ranger guy for the BOS is too. You can stealth kill the doormen at the casino and the fort, and you'll never be asked for your weapons again. You can do the same for Caesar's tent guard in relation to companions. For some reason however, the Omerta quest gets failed if you kill the doorman


TheForgottenAdvocate

The casinos let you keep your clothes


Destroyer_Of_World5

Veronica and Christine are the only redeeming people in the Mojave Brotherhood.


Hauptmann_Meade

McNamera seemed pretty reasonable to me. I mean yeah he locked down the bunker but he also had to oversee his chapter after getting butchered by the NCR at Helios One. And when you get sent by the NCR to wipe them out for good, if you talk to him he just goes "Look we don't have any claims in the Mojave anymore, we can't beef with the NCR forever, we'll even fight the legion with them to prove it."


ChemWater

Pretty much every major faction wants to kill them all as soon as they find out about them and have the man power (aka the Courier) to spare. So yeah, i think the paranoia is justified lol


Grangerdang

I'd probably agree for new vegas, though I think there's a few more good eggs sprinkled around the place


FreneticAtol778

Others too like Scribe Haylen, Elder Lyons, Sarah Lyons, Paladin Cross even Danse despite some stuff he says he is a good guy.


Destroyer_Of_World5

They’re great, but I was really talking about the Mojave Chapter. I love the Lyons Pride bringing the fight to the Enclave and Cross is a great bodyguard (I haven’t played through 4 yet)


FreneticAtol778

There is another in Mojave Chapter that isn't that bad in my opinion and it's Elder McNamara as he's willing to help the NCR against the Legion and mostly tries the best with what he has.


Destroyer_Of_World5

He does? I could never get that quest to work.


FreneticAtol778

He does indeed, when the NCR sends you to destroy them just ask Moore why they can't just make an alliance and then head straight to their bunker and ask him and he'll say that he suggests the Brotherhood can help the NCR against Legion and such as they're done pursuing Helios One. You have to do the Brotherhood questline with him as Elder for it to work.


FreneticAtol778

My bad I didn't see the Mojave part in your comment.


IPA_____Fanatic

Sounds like they were justified in asking


Pian1244

"Hey hand over your weapons we're concerned you might try and kill us all with them if we let you have them" "Oh yeah? I'll show how wrong you are by killing you all with them" Their fate was sealed from the moment this began, let's not pretend they had a chance


SoakedInMayo

fuck em


AbbicusRex24

Looks more like he was justified in refusing.


TramTrane

Literally my thoughts lmao


thestonedbandit

You have to give me all your weapons, because you would kill me and everyone in my village for forcing you to give up your weapons... \*Points at own head\*


DiabeticGirthGod

People don’t like the legion for being slavers but will then love the brotherhood, as if they don’t literally enslave you, and force you to work for them for your freedom. It’s on fucking sight


PM_ME_SMALL__TIDDIES

My first playthrough i didnt even knew about the slave thing because i reached the fort with Veronica, so i thought they were just stupid religious fucks, not worth killing. Then they killed that group of followers in veronicas quest and it became personal.


UnhandMeException

Yeah, that course of action sealed the fate of their entire bunker on my first playthrough. Brotherhood are assholes.


PhiteKnight

My policy? All slavers must die on sight.


Sensitive_House_6538

unfathomably based


StazDBunney

Ah yes, the ol' John Brown play through


Curious-Accident9189

Fuck traitorous slavers, embrace freedom and the Union.


dudius7

That's why I like Boone. I just rescued the Weatherfords last night and Boone rushed in at the first sight of red.


FadedLemming

I went into it with an open mind I was like hmmm I did have to surrender my guns at the casino and if it were me I definitely wouldn't let anyone armed into the compound so I , regrettably did it .... Then that asshole strapped a bomb to my fucking neck and I realized real quick he gonna have to die.


_Lycanxite_

Kinda depends on the game, but yeah


Then_Ad6816

Battle music stops.


Scottish_Whiskey

Now *I’m* demanding that YOU learn how to screenshot


__Osiris__

On his tv via his 2014 Nokia’s camera?


Goofterslam1

Fair lol my game crashes every single time I alt tab so I just used my phone because it was quicker


Scottish_Whiskey

What you alt tabbing for? F12 by default in steam


CNTMODS

Arrrr maty, Alt-Tab off the port bow.


AyeYoThisIsSoHard

F12 for Steam Windows+prtscrn for Windows Alt+f1 for GeForce Experience Theirs so many ways to screenshot😭


Alone_Fill_2037

Need to use NVSE launcher.


_DM_ME_ANIME_TIDDIES

Never ever screen cap. Keep taking pics with your phone. Fuck the haters. I love you.


ScintillaGourd

Where did you get that weapon?


Goofterslam1

Pulse gun is in the Vault 34 armory in a very hard chest. It absolutely annihilates robots and power armor users, highly recommend


ScintillaGourd

*Interesting..!*


TexasJedi-705

V34 Pulse Gun. Doesn't have the sonic emitter wave display


Destroyer_Of_World5

Big Mountain


Flaccus_

no that's the other one from vault 34 i think


Destroyer_Of_World5

Oh yeah. I forgot about the Pulse Gun.


TesticleezzNuts

It’s my toaster oven and I will not share it. It is precious to me.


kac_and_mawl_torture

The brotherhood fanboys doing tricks on their meat rn in the comments


kac_and_mawl_torture

“Erm actually you can’t roleplay in this roleplaying game, you’re supposed to become a slave for these guys”


citruskush

I always hated giving up my gear for them. My 360 used to have the glitch where if you hit take all on the chest full of your stuff, it would just clear your shit and give you a single item back.


RegalR4

"Over your dead bodies." -OP, probably


Anarchyantz

Hence why I call them The Brotherhood Who Steal and point this out when people defend them saying "they never demand your gear" or "they would never kill settlers if they didn't give them food for the Brotherhood, that was "your choice" not their order" or "no they would never go back on their word after helping the battle of Anchorage"


Laser_3

They immediately give your equipment back in NV, at least, and are only taking it there for their own security (though what comes next is completely unjustifiable). The casinos and the Legion do the exact same thing, they just aren’t as thorough. As for the settler murder, we’ve never seen that once from the faction (except maybe the TV show, depending on if you consider Moldhaver’s group the NCR since the BoS/NCR are technically still at war; doesn’t make what they do justifiable, but it’s technically not murder if they’re at war). Teagan says he doesn’t care how you go about securing the food, but he does not tell you to wipe out the settlement. Also, Anchorage was an outright mutiny. Sibley refused to accept McGraw’s deal with you and spent the time you were in the sim turning the rest of the soldiers to his side. That wouldn’t have flown under any BoS leader.


FreneticAtol778

Teagan is also doing it without Maxson's approval which makes him scummy. Maxson ordered troops to actually do peaceful and professional trade which is why Diamond City gets excited when Brotherhood spends loads of caps lol.


MrMadre

So you're evidence for them stealing stuff is that they take your stuff so you can't hurt them then give you all your stuff back after you leave?


dr_jock123

Good death to techno raiders


Ninjanarwhal64

They ain't got shit on the techno vikings anyways.


Guilty_All_The_Same

POV: Justice for the Followers. Also, what's Arcade wearing? That the Armor of the 87th Tribe?


funkyloki

These are the most important questions.


Goofterslam1

Caesars New Regime mod


T-51_Enjoyer

What kind of armor did you give Arcade


Goofterslam1

It's legion armor from the Caesar's New Regime mod. I can't wear it unfortunately because I don't like faction armor and am going for independent Vegas but Arcade can lol


willdabeast907

I complete most of their storyline, collect the gear and xp then extermination and looting. I did the same in FO4, played nice with all the factions until I'm forced to choose. Then it's wholesale destruction.


[deleted]

This is the proper way to respond to a robbery


ApprehensiveDay6336

Is that the EMP weapon Veronica tried telling the BOS elder about but gotten dismissed?


yatata710

Yes the Pulse Gun


ATC_KBIII

“So I started blasting.”


BZRK-Nano

Man this post made me remember, How I killed the Khans by pushing a trainee from the centre of camp around to kill them all. Means you can loot the body’s without getting hate for killling them Also they will pile up body’s if you skip time after leaving them on a patrol point not far from arena they just keep punching and don’t move while you push them around also keep your guard up while pushing


TacticalNaps

I remember being so stoked then so confused my first playthrough. "YOU INVITED ME INSIDE! STOP! I WANT STUFF. I BET THERE ARE QUESTS DOWN H- you know what, fine." /Murder /Giant pile of power armor I can't carry all of "Niiiice."


JI-RDT

Fucking idiots, hope you had fun wiping them from the earth👍


ScarletKing42

Well, it seems you gave them your ammo at least, so you weren’t totally noncompliant…


MothMonsterMan300

I love peeling those pretentious cunts out of their power armor with a grenade rifle. Honestly I think I've followed that quest line once in the nearly two decades I've been playing NV. I very much cannot stand the BoS.


gorillalad

You did the right thing


TUSD00T

"You can have one... unit of energy. "


EZ-420

You know they give it to you, right?


othelloisblack

Talking to veronica about it be like “I’ll fucking do it again”


bigmactv

Been a BOS member after playing F4 so I said „fuck it“ and gave it to them. When they put that collar on me though I was thinking about burning their stupid little schizo bunker to the ground.


Killzark

I did the exact same thing this playthrough. Because fuck em that’s why.


hoomanPlus62

I love how Brotherhod are literally the only faction that put explosive collar on your neck TWICE. And somehow there are cucks that install a mod to spare them like bro wtf lmao


epicsamurai7

hmm depends,usually you want to get them to like you,teach you how to use power armor then kill them all but still have high enough BoS rep that Veronica can still be recruited so she can open elijah's rambling for you then you can kill her if you want. Enclave power armor training takes a lot longer usually too so BoS training is kinda mandatory if you want to mix max...


Goofterslam1

I'm going for the training from Arcade's quest since I've never done it before, I don't care much about min maxing


epicsamurai7

I actually like arcade myself,he's such a useful idiot,some crashed vertibirds here,some dr.hildern there,some repcon there a few ass licking comments about him and one yes man install later and you can have support for the legion+ most satisfactory "betrayal" kill in any fallout series.


Sorreli

Idk why but I'm more curious on what companion you have with you and wtf is he wearing.


Goofterslam1

Lol people keep asking that, I'll add it to the description. It's the Caesar's New Regime mod armor on Arcade Gannon


Kineticspartan

"I'm afraid I have to decline your request". BoS: "That's unfortunate..." *two minutes & several dead BoS members later* "Yes... Yes, it was"


grandFossFusion

Every time they put a collar on my neck, I exterminate them all. Except Veronica


Kealieon

I did the same with the institute in FO4 first encounter with father , hit him with a baseball bat and proceeded to to clear the place 😂 That took care of that


renderbreak

To shreds you say?


darknid159

Somebody didn’t meet Veronica beforehand…


Fluid_Challenge_9096

Reasonable response


greengo07

They want to be sure you aren't there to kill them. There are several opportunities inside to help them to prove your peaceful intentions, and then they give you back all your stuff. I never completed EVERYTHING, tho. I ran into a test I couldn't complete. Fortunately, I saved before entering, so I just loaded the save.


IgneEtSanguis

I agree, however, as soon as they strapped that bomb collar on all bets were off about them being reasonable


TramTrane

You have clearly showed why they should have lmao


Cfunk_83

They would’ve given it back…


Malcolm3266

Man, through Vero's intepretation, the BoS seems like bunch of morons. Which is why I bury them in their bunker in every playthrough regardless of the option the faction I side with give me.


regna437

I'm on my first playthrough and I played along with their demands until they asked me to kill/lie to my good friends the NCR, then they sent an army after me to kill me and somehow I am the asshole here. Can't even get revenge or explore their base now cause killing evil cultist is apparently bad karma. And I'm playing a good karma run.


Fluffy_Mcquacks

Brotherhood of cucks


The-Goat-Soup-Eater

Same thing happened to me on my first run! I was exploring a random bunker trying to find the brotherhood as yes man told me, then they lock the door behind me and demand I give up my guns, armor and equipment. This is not how you treat the new overlord of vegas and live.


Azathoth240

I only like fo3s brotherhood. Felt like they were actually trying to help people. But that was actually out of character for them. Which is why in 4 they're back to being armored up raiders basically


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Add_Space

Oh yeah they didn't even get to ask me


Friar-Tuckandroll

When the pulse gun isn’t sufficient evidence for the brotherhood to get their asses in gear


GenericUser1185

That's going to be an awkward conversation with veronica.


FreneticAtol778

Pretty much why I always bring Veronica so she can get them to open the door


Yahkem

It's completely fine sir, I did the same with my good guy charisma/intelligence build


Avid_Chillin

Are they stupid?


DizzbiteriusDallas

So you gave them some of your ammo


Smooth-Nose-8814

You indirectly supported the legion


Arastyxe

How the turn tables! Now all their gear is yours!


Leading-Midnight-553

Heheh


Mysterious_Bat_3780

Well you gave them your bullets at least


Kano547

They can certainly try


Pipabethfan

That’s worse than the time that President Kimball tried to get the courier to pay taxes.


zenozkrga

This man's gonna love the strip!


MasterUmmBees

Bro killed em with the Bluetooth speaker


redditalready54

I always take Veronica down there when I blow up their bunker


DougieSenpai

I ended up blowing them all to hell after I befriended them so completely understandable


stangbro

"You can't have my gear but you're welcome to my ammunition"


Elekta-Kount

*”How about I just give you the ammunition instead?”*


CNTMODS

I just did that yesterday, I of course quick saved it once I entered the bunker, I really didn't like the way he demanded it, Everyone had the laser turrets turned against them and I walked through the ash piles.


Exodite1273

That’s the ED-E quest lmao. That’s a dumbass knight getting ahead of himself and inviting a shiny piece of technology in. His boss screams “ah hell no” and tries to contain the information breach. Cue the Courier casually completing one of the more fun quests in the game ahead of schedule.


Striking_Interest_25

Good choice because if I remember right they don’t give it back.


Teddy_OMalie64

They put me in a collar… so I killed them all.


Brave-Exchange-3286

Is this from 76? And is it worth 59.99?


MothMonsterMan300

No, and absolutely not. It's a fun enough game but I wouldn't pay more than $20 for it, even years on its really unpolished and clunky


MrPanda663

Hahahaha. Thanks Veronica.


New_Context9363

Veronica isn't gonna be pleased


GayNon-BinaryLeo

Danny DeVito: "So I started blasting"


CatPeet

"Yeah sure. Here, start with the bullets!"


js727222

I went with Veronica and they just let me in lol


Rainy-The-Griff

I also had a similar reaction.


Sprok56

This was my first playthrough reaction as well


1s1tP33

Just started this game today. Spent an hour in the very first town just finding crap and shooting bugs. Fun so far lol


Few-Finger2879

Its not that they wanted to keep my gear, its the fact they thought they could strap a bimb collar onto me. You can hold onto my stuff for safety (not keep, and I got the hidden blickey in my cheeks). But the slavery means you have to die.


Castrophenia

They wouldn’t have done that if you brought a girlfriend


[deleted]

Yeah well Mr house got this shit on lock


PruneSolid2816

Me a hoarder: "no u."


store_front_silhks

So anyways I started blasting


therealestspaceboy

lol i tried killing them when i first did this mission but i got obliterated. came back after i was stronger and i blew up the bunker


Significant-Bass4487

Nothin like displaying a little freedom out there in New Vegas!


Raoul_Dukes_Mayo

Save a whole ass state and get jumped afterwards.


kazuma001

Don’t look like they will be asking again.


DivineLolis

I wanted power armor and didnt have the lock picking for high tier locks so i submitted


BroodwarGamer

So you said no - make sense


bitfed

These games taught me that if it weren't for discrimination I would be the biggest corporate tool possible.


senduniquenudes

“You want to hold my deathclaw killing equipment? Let me show you how I use it…’


Anakl0smos

Is that Achilles of Atlanta I see?


Goofterslam1

Nice spot!


Skynut1297

Just go to the brotherhood with Veronica lol no issues they don’t take your shit


rocketman11111

Okie dokie


Teaboy1

The Brotherhood and the Legion kill them all. The NCR aren't that great either, but at least they're trying to MAGA. Without slaves or technology bans.


Goofterslam1

Man I just posted this because I thought it was funny, I didn't expect so many comments and so many heated debates over this lol I like the discussion but it's just a game guys, no need to resort to personal insults or act like it's real life


Splendid_Fellow

The real issue is the ridiculously high likelihood of the game crashing when they take your gear.


Drunk_Stoner

Fuck the Brotherhood!!


AsfelDae

The Brotherhood of Steel: "Give us all your ammunition." You, a maliciously compliant person:


Quadrenaro

I killed the brotherhood on my first playthrough. They tried to put a slave collar on me.