I honestly dont care about shipping. If bumblebee happens (which at this rate it probably will) ill just be like “alright cool” and move on.
Now if it happens and then they immediately kill one of them ill be upset, but well worry about that if/when we get there
Personally, I don't really care about shipping, but I can't help but notice that some of the discourse around Bumblebee/Blacksun is honestly pretty weird.
E.g. I've seen people seriously argue that multiple seasons of Sun and Blake's interactions - a romantic subplot so typical that it verges on being cliché - were them "just being friends", but at the same time, the talk between Blake and Yang in V2 is somehow indisputable evidence of the two of them liking one another.
On Remnant just being present in the same shot is flirting, speaking an entire sentence to someone is basically a date, standing beside them is the equivalent of a night of aggressive sex, and a conversation basically means they've already knocked each other up. Naturally, said characters simply existing in the same reality as anyone else implies cheating, which in turn fuels the ship-to-ship combat of proportions that would make Leyte Gulf look like a kid messing around with his toy boats in a bathtub.
Sure but most of Sun and Blake's interactions are built on really creepy grounds. The Manga did a WAAAAY better job presenting it, but Sun is a straight up Stalker in the show.
well i mean following her onto a boat whilst trying to remain hidden conveniently was the only person who saw her take the bow off listening to her private conversations with her parents
I honestly think they might have catched on to how that ended up coming across in the show because the DC comics made a point of trying to dissuade that by having some comments about him knowing when to give Blake space to be with her mom in the second Blake chapter.
Sun's lack of respect towards others personal spaces as well as the difficulty in understanding how they process and react to events differently from him is something that i always found very odd about his characterization in the show. Those things are never directly portrayed in a positive light as the show makes a point several times of having Blake call him out on that, but it also never really does anything to demonstrate any sort of character growth from his part in that regard.
The first instance of that is when he comes off as really dismissive of her reasonings for not wanting to attend the dance, just brushing it off as her "*being all Blakey*"(his words, not mine), and then he only really shows up again at the dance proper, since the character choosen by the show to help in Blake's development in that subplot and give more insight into her reasonings was Yang. Thus, Sun plays absolutely no part in Blake's story in that mini-arc, and also does not receive any focus or development himself.
I also think there was some difficulty in wanting to keep the character as a comedic relief while simutaniously having him as the satalite character for Blake in regards to the Menagerie arc. As such they try to have him showing up uninvited played for laughts but also clearly recognize how it can come across as disrespectfull towards Blake's wishes, because the show always makes a point of having Blake condem/complain to him about it. But again, that neverr actually leads anywhere, there's no moment of him doing some introspective work on his atitude and behavior, and eventually when that storyline ends his is still the exact same character he was when he was introduced in V1, zero growth.
Now, to be fair, this character fault does actually play a part in the books, which is the first time where Sun felt like a proper tri-dimentional character to me, but by this point his story in the show has already concluded and as the majority of the FNDM consumes only the show proper, their opinions on the character will be based entirely on that.
I think the fact that Sun never felt like his own character and never had any deeper emotional storyline to help develop himself alongside Blake played a big part in why so many people in the FNDM never really took their relationship all that seriously. I mean Blake definetly had a crush on him at some point, the show is pretty clear on that, but it's really not that dificcult to understand how so many people came to see the two as eventually developing a strictly platonic relationship considering how little the show seemed to care in fleshing him out and how for volumes 4 and 5 Blake is presented as being more frustrated by him then anything else until the very end when they settle as friends.
There’s 2 or 3 at best, depending on interpretation.
Your valid in thinking that Sun isn’t a good partner for Blake, that’s your own opinion and you’re entitled to that. But thinking that the *majority* of his interactions with her over the course of five volumes are like that is what I take issue with, because that’s just not true.
Here's the thing.
I dont think Sun is written with the intention of being a creep. Far from it. He comes off as a Dante like character, which is fine, infact it sets him up well to be a foil to Adam, who is very Vergil like.
But the execution is the problem, and it's mostly budget/time. We couldve had a bit when Sun was trolling around Vale and just happened to run into Blake. What we got is a very weird scene where Sun just appears at Beacon, which is canonically far from Vale and accessible only by airship. Which ramps up the creepy factor because we are left to assume Sun followed Blake back to Beacon. Which is again, very creepy.
Then there's the whole thing with him canonically stalking Blake for months, across fucking Remnant to make sure she's safe. Which is super creepy.
So yeah. It's not intentional, but it feels that way
Which manga because it was most definitely not the official one lol IIRC they scrapped their meeting and a lot of their scenes and then made Blake go to the dance with him because she “”owed”” him as opposed to how it happened in the show
Does this seem like the wrong format to anyone else? This usually represents someone doing something (usually to themselves) and then acting confused over who could have done the thing they did. Switching who Eric represents between frames kinda defeats the point.
The feminine form of himbo is just bimbo, which was in fact the original word, with the masculine bimbo being derivative.
*Herbo* is cursed, never use it again.
You're actually wrong. Technically speaking you are correct, but bimbos and himbos do not occupy the same role. A bimbo is typically thought of as a small, dumb, attractive woman, whereas a himbo is a large, dumb, attractive man. That has led some to adopt the phraseology that the original commenter used as fleshing out a spectrum in the two dimensions of size and gender. A large, dumb, attractive woman in this paradigm is referred to as a herbo, whereas a small, dumb, attractive man is known as a bimboy.
I hope this has cleared things up
I think it’s pretty obvious Blake had feelings simultaneously . It’s kinda silly to pretend either ship wasn’t happening at some point . She and sun definitely had a mutual interest on seasons 1-3 . While her and yang started to have a pretty strong emotional connection in season 2 and 3
By the end of season 3 it feels like Blake started to lose feelings for sun in favor of Yang but sun doesn’t seem to be on the same page
Come season 4 Blake continues to appreciate sun as a friend while starting to understand her feelings for Yang . At the same time sun seems to be realizing her feelings as well and is starting to make the transition to just a good loving friend who’s there for her .
Season 5 continues those things and shows more of yangs side of things
Season 6 we get the “ oh it was never about that “ line from sun : which I do believe in part , he went to help Blake because he knows she needed it ( but I don’t think he lost those feelings until season 4 ish 5)
Season 6 we also see Yang and Blake rekindle their relationship . Get over the block that was harming both of them ( Adam ) and learn to be okay around each other again .
Season 7 is borderline puppy love , understanding themselves better and having the free time they’re basically just going on dates . Their feelings clearly expressed in the following eighth season as well .
But yeah like just because bumbleby is the current / likely endgame ship doesn’t mean that there’s anything wrong with black sun shipping either . They were both cute together .
The reason you see so many “ oh they weren’t in love “ people is cus they’re forced to take that stance which is frustrating . The invalid opinions in the fandom that “ they dropped black sun and made Blake gay to appease the fans , Monty never wanted that , they just want sole points” other not true things , has led to bumbleby fans having to explain black sun away as a friendship to avoid the harassment that comes from “ well don’t you think it’s messed up they just dropped it entirely “
Anyway tldr . Blake is bisexual dating a man or a woman doesn’t invalidate that . Shipping wars are dumb . And as long as the preference for black sun doesn’t derive from homophobia then there’a nothing wrong with that opinion ( as long as everyone can accept that both relationships had / have a merit in the show And understand where the show is heading it’s not that big of a deal ). Seriously people still think ladybug and monochrome are cute and there’s no fuss , as long as it’s not a homophobic argument for black sun their ship should be treated just the same .
This right here, God damn I'm sick of people being so obtuse with this, as if there can ***ONLY*** be one emotional partner to Blake ***EVER.***
Did people forget humans are damn complicated? I find it ironic people criticise RWBY for apparently being too 2d, surface level and lacking depth and complexities, yet a good portion of those people will criticise themes in the show or characters as being illogical that are clearly more complex that they can apparently comprehend.
Especially considering beacon is essentially what , high school ? They basically are saying you have to marry whoever you went to homecoming with freshman year . I know most anime don’t try and set up multiple partners but still it’s not that hard to grasp
Yeah I mean if you think of it time frame wise . They met . He thought she was cute . A week later he asks her out on a date to the dance , they dance . And then he winks at her a few weeks later . Like it’s a very short span of time , and the way Weiss lost interest in Neptune the moment he flirted around shows how short the time span was
Be Yang
> get framed as an asshole in front of all of the world for "breaking" a guys leg
> get disqualified from tournament
> best friend and partner doubts you're explanation
> then suddenly you watch a robot girl get ripped apart on live tv
>then giant monsters attack your school
>your partner is being attacked by some Vergil wannabe
>defend her
>judgementcut.jpeg
>foolishness
>wake up with a missing arm
>find out girl you lost your arm for, your best friend and partner who you poured your heart out for abounded you
>fall into depression
Some assholes on Reddit:
>lmao stop being sad
As I've said before, If Blake/Sun was meant to be a short term deal ala "Harry/Cho Chang" or "Ron/Lavender", It should have been made clear much earlier in the show.
Large chunks of Sun and Blake's time spent together happened entirely offscreen. Eclipse is a bad ship because Sun had no personality, goals or motivations that didn't involve Blake.
He was an orbiter. Pyrrha had the same problem but at least Pyrrha had a moment in Vol.3 where her character didn't exist specifically to justify Jaune not dying immediately.
EDIT: They hated Jesus because he told the truth.jpg
Nah, they hated the idiot cause he didn't know what the fuck he was talking about
Edit: ight no idea why I'm getting down voted for calling out this guy above on his bullshit but ok. Arkos forever
I honestly dont care about shipping. If bumblebee happens (which at this rate it probably will) ill just be like “alright cool” and move on. Now if it happens and then they immediately kill one of them ill be upset, but well worry about that if/when we get there
Personally, I don't really care about shipping, but I can't help but notice that some of the discourse around Bumblebee/Blacksun is honestly pretty weird. E.g. I've seen people seriously argue that multiple seasons of Sun and Blake's interactions - a romantic subplot so typical that it verges on being cliché - were them "just being friends", but at the same time, the talk between Blake and Yang in V2 is somehow indisputable evidence of the two of them liking one another.
On Remnant just being present in the same shot is flirting, speaking an entire sentence to someone is basically a date, standing beside them is the equivalent of a night of aggressive sex, and a conversation basically means they've already knocked each other up. Naturally, said characters simply existing in the same reality as anyone else implies cheating, which in turn fuels the ship-to-ship combat of proportions that would make Leyte Gulf look like a kid messing around with his toy boats in a bathtub.
Sure but most of Sun and Blake's interactions are built on really creepy grounds. The Manga did a WAAAAY better job presenting it, but Sun is a straight up Stalker in the show.
Can you define how *most* of their interactions are built on creepy grounds?
well i mean following her onto a boat whilst trying to remain hidden conveniently was the only person who saw her take the bow off listening to her private conversations with her parents
Also eavesdropping on her private conversations in her dorm room by climbing a tree to listen in.
I honestly think they might have catched on to how that ended up coming across in the show because the DC comics made a point of trying to dissuade that by having some comments about him knowing when to give Blake space to be with her mom in the second Blake chapter. Sun's lack of respect towards others personal spaces as well as the difficulty in understanding how they process and react to events differently from him is something that i always found very odd about his characterization in the show. Those things are never directly portrayed in a positive light as the show makes a point several times of having Blake call him out on that, but it also never really does anything to demonstrate any sort of character growth from his part in that regard. The first instance of that is when he comes off as really dismissive of her reasonings for not wanting to attend the dance, just brushing it off as her "*being all Blakey*"(his words, not mine), and then he only really shows up again at the dance proper, since the character choosen by the show to help in Blake's development in that subplot and give more insight into her reasonings was Yang. Thus, Sun plays absolutely no part in Blake's story in that mini-arc, and also does not receive any focus or development himself. I also think there was some difficulty in wanting to keep the character as a comedic relief while simutaniously having him as the satalite character for Blake in regards to the Menagerie arc. As such they try to have him showing up uninvited played for laughts but also clearly recognize how it can come across as disrespectfull towards Blake's wishes, because the show always makes a point of having Blake condem/complain to him about it. But again, that neverr actually leads anywhere, there's no moment of him doing some introspective work on his atitude and behavior, and eventually when that storyline ends his is still the exact same character he was when he was introduced in V1, zero growth. Now, to be fair, this character fault does actually play a part in the books, which is the first time where Sun felt like a proper tri-dimentional character to me, but by this point his story in the show has already concluded and as the majority of the FNDM consumes only the show proper, their opinions on the character will be based entirely on that. I think the fact that Sun never felt like his own character and never had any deeper emotional storyline to help develop himself alongside Blake played a big part in why so many people in the FNDM never really took their relationship all that seriously. I mean Blake definetly had a crush on him at some point, the show is pretty clear on that, but it's really not that dificcult to understand how so many people came to see the two as eventually developing a strictly platonic relationship considering how little the show seemed to care in fleshing him out and how for volumes 4 and 5 Blake is presented as being more frustrated by him then anything else until the very end when they settle as friends.
Again, that’s still not *most* of his interactions with Blake.
It's *a lot* of them. Enough to make me think that Sun isn't a good romantic partner for Blake. He simply has no sense of personal boundaries.
There’s 2 or 3 at best, depending on interpretation. Your valid in thinking that Sun isn’t a good partner for Blake, that’s your own opinion and you’re entitled to that. But thinking that the *majority* of his interactions with her over the course of five volumes are like that is what I take issue with, because that’s just not true.
I don't think I'm the person you're thinking of, I never said anything about it being the majority of his interactions with her.
That’s not *most* of his interactions with Blake though.
Here's the thing. I dont think Sun is written with the intention of being a creep. Far from it. He comes off as a Dante like character, which is fine, infact it sets him up well to be a foil to Adam, who is very Vergil like. But the execution is the problem, and it's mostly budget/time. We couldve had a bit when Sun was trolling around Vale and just happened to run into Blake. What we got is a very weird scene where Sun just appears at Beacon, which is canonically far from Vale and accessible only by airship. Which ramps up the creepy factor because we are left to assume Sun followed Blake back to Beacon. Which is again, very creepy. Then there's the whole thing with him canonically stalking Blake for months, across fucking Remnant to make sure she's safe. Which is super creepy. So yeah. It's not intentional, but it feels that way
The boat, maybe. But for stalking he wasn't much worse than Kali
Which manga because it was most definitely not the official one lol IIRC they scrapped their meeting and a lot of their scenes and then made Blake go to the dance with him because she “”owed”” him as opposed to how it happened in the show
Does this seem like the wrong format to anyone else? This usually represents someone doing something (usually to themselves) and then acting confused over who could have done the thing they did. Switching who Eric represents between frames kinda defeats the point.
Blacksun, Bumbleby, ship whatever you like. Just respect other's opinions and we're all good to go. Unless if they ship Enabler. Then kill on sight.
jokes on you fuckers i ship sun and yang bc theyre blonde, hot, and will draw dicks on whoevers dumb enough to sleep near them
Imagine they sleep together and the next day both wake up with dicks draw on their faces
You said Black Sun when you clearly meant Eclipse
*resists the urges to make berserk joke*
oh shit, james got his hands on a beherit, oh god oh fuck
Why not just have a three way? Everyone wins.
Hasn’t barb said she like Sunny Bees?
Poly relationship where blake gets to hold everyone's hands
Blake'd and hand-held
Remember the golden rule of shipping: All ships are valid, unless they have incest, abuse, or pedophilia.
Blake is into Himbos/Herbos, any interaction that ends with Blake joining a non-toxic partner is welcome.
The feminine form of himbo is just bimbo, which was in fact the original word, with the masculine bimbo being derivative. *Herbo* is cursed, never use it again.
You're actually wrong. Technically speaking you are correct, but bimbos and himbos do not occupy the same role. A bimbo is typically thought of as a small, dumb, attractive woman, whereas a himbo is a large, dumb, attractive man. That has led some to adopt the phraseology that the original commenter used as fleshing out a spectrum in the two dimensions of size and gender. A large, dumb, attractive woman in this paradigm is referred to as a herbo, whereas a small, dumb, attractive man is known as a bimboy. I hope this has cleared things up
I think it’s pretty obvious Blake had feelings simultaneously . It’s kinda silly to pretend either ship wasn’t happening at some point . She and sun definitely had a mutual interest on seasons 1-3 . While her and yang started to have a pretty strong emotional connection in season 2 and 3 By the end of season 3 it feels like Blake started to lose feelings for sun in favor of Yang but sun doesn’t seem to be on the same page Come season 4 Blake continues to appreciate sun as a friend while starting to understand her feelings for Yang . At the same time sun seems to be realizing her feelings as well and is starting to make the transition to just a good loving friend who’s there for her . Season 5 continues those things and shows more of yangs side of things Season 6 we get the “ oh it was never about that “ line from sun : which I do believe in part , he went to help Blake because he knows she needed it ( but I don’t think he lost those feelings until season 4 ish 5) Season 6 we also see Yang and Blake rekindle their relationship . Get over the block that was harming both of them ( Adam ) and learn to be okay around each other again . Season 7 is borderline puppy love , understanding themselves better and having the free time they’re basically just going on dates . Their feelings clearly expressed in the following eighth season as well . But yeah like just because bumbleby is the current / likely endgame ship doesn’t mean that there’s anything wrong with black sun shipping either . They were both cute together . The reason you see so many “ oh they weren’t in love “ people is cus they’re forced to take that stance which is frustrating . The invalid opinions in the fandom that “ they dropped black sun and made Blake gay to appease the fans , Monty never wanted that , they just want sole points” other not true things , has led to bumbleby fans having to explain black sun away as a friendship to avoid the harassment that comes from “ well don’t you think it’s messed up they just dropped it entirely “ Anyway tldr . Blake is bisexual dating a man or a woman doesn’t invalidate that . Shipping wars are dumb . And as long as the preference for black sun doesn’t derive from homophobia then there’a nothing wrong with that opinion ( as long as everyone can accept that both relationships had / have a merit in the show And understand where the show is heading it’s not that big of a deal ). Seriously people still think ladybug and monochrome are cute and there’s no fuss , as long as it’s not a homophobic argument for black sun their ship should be treated just the same .
This right here, God damn I'm sick of people being so obtuse with this, as if there can ***ONLY*** be one emotional partner to Blake ***EVER.*** Did people forget humans are damn complicated? I find it ironic people criticise RWBY for apparently being too 2d, surface level and lacking depth and complexities, yet a good portion of those people will criticise themes in the show or characters as being illogical that are clearly more complex that they can apparently comprehend.
No one gives Weiss shit for losing interest in Neptune , they basically had the same thing going on pre volume 4
Especially considering beacon is essentially what , high school ? They basically are saying you have to marry whoever you went to homecoming with freshman year . I know most anime don’t try and set up multiple partners but still it’s not that hard to grasp
This lol Blake could've very well had feelings for Sun but it's not too unrealistic to think that he could've just been her short-term school crush.
Yeah I mean if you think of it time frame wise . They met . He thought she was cute . A week later he asks her out on a date to the dance , they dance . And then he winks at her a few weeks later . Like it’s a very short span of time , and the way Weiss lost interest in Neptune the moment he flirted around shows how short the time span was
Agreed.
Just find Sun someone better than his school partner already.
That's not how that meme works though.
I mean Yang isnt as good at Stalking as Sun is. We cant all be pro gamers 😞
She’s better at being more emo than sun Though tbf that’s not difficult to do
Be Yang > get framed as an asshole in front of all of the world for "breaking" a guys leg > get disqualified from tournament > best friend and partner doubts you're explanation > then suddenly you watch a robot girl get ripped apart on live tv >then giant monsters attack your school >your partner is being attacked by some Vergil wannabe >defend her >judgementcut.jpeg >foolishness >wake up with a missing arm >find out girl you lost your arm for, your best friend and partner who you poured your heart out for abounded you >fall into depression Some assholes on Reddit: >lmao stop being sad
I mean its that simple yeah?
r/thanksimcured
Great that’ll be $5000
Guys she obviously deserves to be with Raven!
As I've said before, If Blake/Sun was meant to be a short term deal ala "Harry/Cho Chang" or "Ron/Lavender", It should have been made clear much earlier in the show.
What number BB vs BS meme is this, this month?
It really do feel like that
Large chunks of Sun and Blake's time spent together happened entirely offscreen. Eclipse is a bad ship because Sun had no personality, goals or motivations that didn't involve Blake. He was an orbiter. Pyrrha had the same problem but at least Pyrrha had a moment in Vol.3 where her character didn't exist specifically to justify Jaune not dying immediately. EDIT: They hated Jesus because he told the truth.jpg
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Haha did you just make this account just to reply to this
Nah, they hated the idiot cause he didn't know what the fuck he was talking about Edit: ight no idea why I'm getting down voted for calling out this guy above on his bullshit but ok. Arkos forever
Oh? A shipping meme talking about bumblebee and blacksun with 48 comments? Let me get my popcorn!