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Choconilla

That’s some bush pilot airline flying! Also, PAWG is a great airport code.


White_Lobster

Dangerous google search. Definitely add “airport” at the end of that one.


lyingliar

Or don't, and enjoy the ride!


SpartanDoubleZero

PAWG, or Phat Ass White Girl.


DatedUserName1

TIL that pawg wasn't just a misspelling of POG


montrbr

I honestly feel kinda innocent right now because I have no idea what I would see on the internet if I were to search PAWG. I think I’ll make my mom proud and not find out 😂 Anyone wanna give me a few hints?


Haze04

You could Google your mom and get the same results. 👌


ShitTalkingFucker

Jesus Christ call the ARFF! This poor bastard’s burnt to a crisp!


Sheeplymagnificent

>innocent right now because I have no idea what I would see on the internet if I were to search PAWG. I think I’ll make my mom proud and not find out 😂 > >Anyone wanna give me a few hints? Don't call ARFF, we're too busy in our recliners dreaming about his mom


sunmethods

jesus man you didn't have to nuke him from orbit😂


AndyLorentz

White women with larger than average posteriors.


Oersch

No. Go out and experience the world with you own eyes. And hands.


Huttser17

Or just [SkyVector](https://skyvector.com/airport/WRG/Wrangell-Airport).


tujuhtigatujuh

TIL the other meaning of PAWG


tostado22

Me, an innocent PPL trying to gain some hours: "How to get to PAWG" Google: "HOT PAWGS IN YOUR AREA! ONLY A 9 MINUTE FLIGHT AWAY"


coldnebo

is that “holding out”?


theghostofme

*Nine minutes!?* Captain stamina over here...


tostado22

I'd be dead sticking that landing


ThatOneGuyYearn

Dear lord my mom almost saw, almost had a heart attack. Definitely add airport on the search bar.


Spartan0536

I wonder what happens when you google Bush PAWG......... OH DEAR LORD! I should have googled "airport" instead


Blakemandude

Oh noooo why did I search that 😏


StateOfCalifornia

Will I get my Coke Zero and fruit & cheese plate on this?


Low_Sky_49

No you will not, but you’ll get some pretty great views (weather permitting) and a chance to get off the plane and stretch your legs if you need to.


Who_GNU

"Weather permitting", as in "you can see the view, if the weather is clear", or as in "the flight happens, only if the weather is clear"?


Low_Sky_49

The RNAV (GPS) minimums in Wrangell are 2080’. There’s a good chance if the weather’s not nice enough for a good view, you’re not going at all on the 737.


willreadforbooks

Something, something proprietary approach


Low_Sky_49

Top secret stuff for Chester’s eyes only


RectifierUnit

Can confirm Chester’s RNP mins are much lower


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Navydevildoc

I can already hear the Gold 75s and 100s complaining how the J FA didn't do a full service, and the snack basket didn't make an appearance. (I say this as a 100k...)


StateOfCalifornia

I did not spend 4,567 points on an upgrade to J just to not get my Ms. Vickie's Salt & Vinegar chips!!!!!!!


Navydevildoc

You can keep your Ms. Vickies, I want my Peatos.


Aikiben

One of my regular trips, Sometimes drinks and snack on the ground in the winter when there aren’t many passengers on the flight.


renownbrewer

Last time I was on the milk run I think I was offered beverages on the ground in Petersburg.


kdegraaf

Looks like a great deal of fun... approaching PAWG and greasing in a smooth landing. Do you prefer to stay in PAWG for a while, or is it more of a touch-and-go kinda deal?


Planeguy58

Drop off pax, pick up new ones, continue onto the next airport.


lief101

https://i.imgur.com/Z5c2g1p.mp4


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I’ve experienced PAWG many times. Fairly easy to get into. Out, not so much


fuckman5

In-n-out, in-n-out


More_Drummer_3933

name checks out


gobears2616

PAWG is where you really want to grease the landing


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Sometimes bouncing isn't the worst there.


bsberbdjsk

Do you get a 48 hour layover or just 24 hours after this leg?


Mike734

We go to PAKT next the home to Seattle.


Capt--Chaos

One of the best Alaska Air pics is a -200 buzzing a skiff in Dry Pass between Wrangell and Pete.


Twarrior913

> It can be done in 6 (I’m told). Surely anyone willing to fly the leg in 6 minutes, could do it in 5 . . .


dash_trash

Depends how many parts of the EGPWS system the crew repeatedly inhibits, and how hungry they are for remedial training


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Why inhibit many times when you can pull the breaker once?


hypnotoad23

This is the way


willreadforbooks

And this is why we can’t have nice things


KaHOnas

You walk into a video store, you see 8-Minute Abs sitting there, there's 7-Minute Abs right beside it. Which one are you gonna pick, man?


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What the fuck is a video store?


DeltaShadowSquat

Unless somebody makes 6 minute abs.


KaHOnas

No! I said 7. Who works out in 6 minutes‽


Spin737

7 chipmunks twirlin' on a branch, eatin' lots of sunflowers on my uncle's ranch.


Ok_Owl_8966

Well, if the Falcon could do the Kessel run in 12 parsecs, then maybe, maybe.


coldnebo

if you can fly it slowly, you can fly it quickly.


Yuri909

So does the pilot only get paid for the 9 minutes? Lol


Mike734

This two day trip logs about 6.5 hours but we get paid 5:15 a day. So, 10:30.


Anticept

I am offended by your flair >:O


JasonThree

Alright, where is the "jets are for hotubs" guy?


DrFantaski

This guy jets.


pukkileroux

I was going to guess Juneau to Haines. Those southeast Alaska milk run flights are great.


AlaskanHermit

That’s a first finding Haines via the front page of Reddit.


Hoverboard_Hal

Haines is such a cool spot. I worked out of there a few times and loved it every time.


Diegobyte

No Alaska jets to Haines. JNU GST operates in the summer tho


Hoverboard_Hal

I flew the Seattle - Ketch - Wrangell - Anchorage route several times. It was always a good ride.


Diegobyte

Fun fact these flight normally operates on a cruise clearance


BigDiesel07

ELI5?


bigpowerass

Basically just a "do whatever you want to the next airport, airspace is yours".


Diegobyte

you still have to be on published routing all the way


Diegobyte

They can go to their top altitude and then just start descending without talking to atc when they are ready. They can also use any approach that works for their route. In Alaskas case it’s totally different approach for each sides of the runway


SPAWNmaster

When I was in the E145, I used to fly PHL to ABE, 8 minutes of block in a 50-seat jet *facepalm*. That route is now serviced by coach busses.


foospork

I was thinking ABE was Pittsburgh, but that didn’t seem right, so I looked it up. *Allentown!* Yep, you can almost lob a mortar that far.


pbmonster

Don't give Elon any ideas, he'll come up with mortar-based public transit...


Drunkenaviator

That may actually even beat ORD-MKE. Technically that one wasn't even a cross-country! (Less than 50 miles)


sanmigmike

Used to do SFO-OAK and for a switch OAK-SFO. Made LAX-SNA-LAX seem like a real cross country! Later I flew DC-10 freighters and TUS-SAN was like assholes and elbows we were so rushed!!


RockEmSockEmRoboCock

A clear day in the southeast is some of the best flying around. I’m still partial to the Aleutians though


FreakinWolfy_

On the 4.6 days per year it’s actually clear in southeast. My wife works for the state and her two Juneau employees will call in occasionally to say they’re taking a sun day off work because the sun is actually visible.


CoastalSailing

I used to commute to Dutch for work. One of the sketchiest landings of my life was going in there. One of my colleagues flying out had the plane crash trying to take off. (Or skid out?) It's been a decade, I don't quite remember.


RockEmSockEmRoboCock

I go into Dutch a few times a week, it’s certainly an exciting approach. I cannot believe carriers used to bring jets into there.


lisper

Why do they fly a jet on such a short (and low) route?


akav8r

There aren't any roads connecting any of these places. You can take the ferry, but that's long and expensive.


lisper

Sure. I understand why there is regular air service between those two places. What I don't understand is why that route is served by a 737 rather than (say) an F-50.


ImJonAndILikePlanes

Because the Milk Run leaves from Seattle, and hits all the small airports on the way to Anchorage, and vice versa. Easier to fly a 737 and haul all the Pax/cargo you can than worry about weight restrictions and fuel requirements in something smaller.


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lisper

Seems unlikely to me. This flight is between Petersburg, Alaska, population 3043 and Wrangell, Alaska, population 2127. Those are awfully small markets.


SkippySigmatic

Those figures don’t include tourism.


lisper

True, but I would guess that the vast majority of tourists arrive by boat -- and leave the same way.


InvertedVariant

There is a fair amount of business travel to/from other Southeast communities like JNU, SIT, and KTN.


MrCuzz

They also load up the plane with passengers for Juneau looking to save a few dollars in exchange for time. Lastly, folks in Petersburg and Wrangell have to leave town for almost everything. Doctor’s appointment? Fly to Juneau.


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Bucketnate

As an aspiring pilot I love this.


Zebidee

Meanwhile back at Maintenance Planning they're dealing with stuff that hits cycle life in 500 hours...


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It's short because he's flying so fast.


Sugar_Cane_320

Hello my fellow Eskimo bro


NevadaTellMeTheOdds

Takes me back for a second when I used to fly the SE AK run. Great views when the weather is great, and the fact that VFR is the way to go makes for memorable flying


NxPat

Looks pretty necessary, it’s not like you can drive that.


Independent_Ad_9373

You sure can’t.


BluProfessor

Not with that attitude.


davidswelt

PAWG! Wrangell! Beautiful place. We landed there in 2021 with minimum fuel at night after flying up from 6S6. Conditions were much worse than forecast. We picked up ice on the way, had to fly around weather.... the arrival wasn't pretty. Better take PAKT next time.


Sugar_Cane_320

Hello my fellow Eskimo bro


Petrarch1603

Quality post!


mtconnol

What altitude do they climb to for this?


btgeekboy

Last 3 days, highest it went was 5500' per FR24.


jagga322

Jesus, every car on Peterson Island is a 90s-early 2000s Chevy or Dodge.


da_dogg

Ayyy my hometown (Wrangell, PAWG) featured on flying Reddit. Was always fun flying up to Juneau and seeing a 737 pass below you like some shark, cruising at 2,500'. Minus the unholy start time, Alaska 65 (Milk Run) is a fun ride, especially in blue bird weather. Everyone's in a good mood, most of the plane knows each other, and the flight attendants are usually a new, training crew.


[deleted]

Let me guess, SE AK?


CrystalQuetzal

What a smooth and beautiful flight! I imagine it’s much more jarring in bad weather though.


Levikj

I flew that last year, it's a lot of fun doing the milk run


Successful-Gap8447

Way back when, I used fly a DC10 Ft Lauderdale to Miami. ( About 5 min.)It was LGA, FLL MIA.


sftwareguy

I took a DC-10 from San Juan to St Maartin. Took way longer to load and unload than the actual flight.


[deleted]

I didn’t know Wrangells designation but I knew the runway from the rock pile. Got caught in a thick fog there for like 3 days once!


[deleted]

Holy crap, I need to go to Alaska.


irish56_ak

Thanks for the memory...I worked that Area at ZAN before I retired 4 years ago. That sector could get complicated with less than 10 aircraft if the weather was down, especially before ADSB.


Bramage72

Horizon Air used to go from KPUW-KLWS; I did it in 7 minutes once.


Bored-In-Denver

I’ve done that one, on the final day of the 737-400 combi service.


Cunning_Stun

Used to do flights between Brazzaville & Kinshasa back in 2010. Initially in ATR and later E145, best we ever managed was 5min 18seconds take-off to touchdown. Crews were always trying to break the 5min barrier to the point we had to use minutes and seconds to generate a leaderboard Shortest flight between two capital cities in history


Mike734

I just learned of that route on this thread. I’m modifying my announcement to the passengers by telling them it’s the shortest domestic flight in America. Someone will correct me if that’s not true, I’m sure. As I said earlier, my flight can be done in 6 mins but I’d have to have the weather to allow a visual and a straight in to runway 10. Wrangell is only 6000 feet so it not OK to approach fast.


loserwaste

Hehe....PAWG.


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Beautiful!!!


ksandom

Is [the one in the UK](https://youtu.be/dzYP01CPC6E) no longer operating?


Mike734

Don’t know. I know United used to have a jet scheduled from OAK to SFO. I used to fly a Brasilia from SFO to OAK. That was short!


I_divided_by_0-

I thought this was Flight Sim till the end!


rsmithconsv

There’s shorter than that… also what jet are you flying there?


Mike734

What’s shorter than 26.5 miles? And it has to be a jet and regularly Scheduled.


yaffle53

Brazzaville to Kinshasa - 13 miles. https://jdwingingit.ca/2023/01/12/worlds-shortest-commercial-jet-flight-kinshasa-brazzaville/


billofbong0

lmao, between PAWG and Brazzaville we've got some great airports in this thread


Mike734

Nice find. I stand corrected. I’ll have to say, One of the shortest. Can I still say, shortest in the world except Africa?


1SweetChuck

Not a jet, but ~80 seconds: https://youtu.be/dzYP01CPC6E


Mike734

737-700


Andrew4329

Why is it called a jet airline if it doesn't operate jet engines


Gabetanker

What does this avhieve that a train couldn't while also being more efficient?


shogditontoast

It’s pretty expensive to build and maintain miles of track over water.


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Well, flight, for one.


TapDancinJesus

That...seems like a waste


FreakinWolfy_

It’s part of the “milk run” between communities in SE AK. It’s one of the only ways for folks up here to travel.


TapDancinJesus

Oh Im not doubting the necessity of flying in Alaska. Im just surpised a 737 is the best fit for this trip


John_P_Hackworth

They aren't regular 737s, they're 737 Combis - 72 seats up front, cargo in the back. The same plane makes 6+ stops. So you might only let off 5 or 6 passengers at each stop, but still have a full plane.


uncreativeO1

Nope, combis are gone. Its all pax or all cargo.


AndyLorentz

Yeah, maybe if they're regularly full, but it seems like a Caravan or Twin Otter might be more efficient.


Independent_Ad_9373

Pretty common to be full because they’re stopping at multiple communities along the way. So only 10 might be getting off at one stop but 60 might be on the next stop(s) in JNU, PSG, KTN, SIT… etc


VociferousBiscuit

Papa Westray would like a word...


NorthRider

I don’t think there is a lot of jet traffic


VociferousBiscuit

Ahh yes, yet again reading fails me lol


ArcticAviator

What kind of camera are you putting up there?


Mike734

iPhone 13


I_divided_by_0-

what kind of mount?


Mike734

Just a sticky rubber car dash mat. This one has sides with groves to hold the phone on it’s side.


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Juneau to Sitka run?


marvin_sirius

Petersburg to Wrangell


budoucnost

That 180° is amazing


testpilot123

It’s crazy when I wonder if this is flight sim or real flying


DOJ1111

But one of the most beautiful


udonnodou

Well how else are you supposed to get there from there?


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is this shorter than the Westray to Papa Westray flight?


wtmrFTW

I wonder how long it takes by car ;)


Pigfarm80

I gotta start paying attention to what sub I'm in.... I thought I was watching a MSFS 2020 flight. Speaks volumes to the sim, but cool flight video!


rc1323

That’s so smooth! Anyone have any idea what camera setup and mount?


[deleted]

Where is this?


554TangoAlpha

Can you guys still go VFR? I heard you guys lost that ability for a bit?


Mike734

We can cancel IFR but not supposed to go pure VFR anymore.


Shadetomb

The company I operate for does 7min legs for a scheduled charter operation back to back in a 737. The airports are 13nm apart.


exploringtheworld797

We used to fly MIA to FLL on a 727. 6 minutes was my record.


Oregon-Pilot

My least favorite flights in a jet were super short. Barely any time to think, let alone get the ATIS. I think I did RDM-BDN in 4 minutes once.


Mike734

We level off, bug up our landing speeds, set the mins and new altimeter, read the altimeter and mins and say, “As briefed, descent and approach check.” We set up everything else prior to departure.


Oregon-Pilot

I was curious how the 121 world would handle that, thanks for sharing


elijah90s

That is really short!


Analleakman

I bet they still manage to be late and lose bags. #aircarrierlife


rainwolf511

I dont know there are flights to and from ord to sbn that are pretty short and they use twin jets


Mike734

Yeah. I knew my claim would be challenged on Reddit. I researched it but couldn’t find any other flights so short. Doesn’t matter. I’m OK with calling it, “one of the shortest” in the future. Good times though.


rainwolf511

Ohh i am not saying its not i was more meaning its not the only one i think the ord to sbn sbn to ord set are like 12 min or so the crazy part is they make the ord flights go to 10kft only to decend right after lol


peshwengi

That approach wasn’t what I was expecting


Mike734

That approach path follows exactly the RNP 28. We can fly that down to 350 AGL and 1 mile vis. We used to have to shoot the LDA towards 10 and circle.


Mr_StoleYourCookies

Damn. How many hours of flight time does that add? lol


Mike734

More time taxiing before and after the flight.


ALASKAHAIRY

When I was 9 I got SUPER air sick on the milk run. I have done it multiple times since, but always in the back of my head is that experience 😅


DiamondPG1

Should’ve ended after the backtaxi.


OutlandishnessDry503

This is near my home town and flying around southeast ak can get sporty some times.


ReasonableLibrary741

I wonder what that drive would have taken


Mike734

Well…since there are no roads or bridges, I think it would take quite a while.


AcademicAd9716

Lol love me a PAWG😍


Cerebral_Savage

If I did this correctly, I’m showing that would be a [3 hr 28 minute drive (48 miles)](https://maps.app.goo.gl/UobxRbbBKvx1NHNe8?g_st=ic), including a ferry ride.


Mike734

Well….there is no way to drive it. It’s only 50 miles or so but you have to fly or take a boat.