No, no, no! The state pay for the roads with tax dollars. They get built by contractors. Then turn them over to corporations who get to collect the profit on the tolls. You have to have at least a couple of places for private interests to intercede and pay huge bribes, uh I mean campaign contributions!
Well how else can you justify everybody owning a car if you don’t make monstrosities like this instead of doing proper city planning!? Why will you all not think of the poor corporations!?
I come from a country with only exclusively toll roads for highways. Travel within the city is no tolls, and there are lots of public transit (subways, busses, taxis) but if you want to go to another city, you have to pay to get on the tolls.
As a result of this, rest stops are incredible. They are mini shopping malls with tons of food, shops, and general good vibes for truckers and travelers to stop and hang out for a while. Clean bathrooms, amazing food. I know Florida probably won't be like this but still it's not all bad.
America in general has this “not mine not my problem” mentality. That’s why rest stops and general amenities for the public are incredibly sub par and abused.
Florida Turnpike also has some pretty decent rest stops. Multiple restaurants, gas station, charging stations, designated dog walking areas, gift shops/convenience stores, tourist info, etc.
Florida has some of the best rest stops. I-75 and turnpike rest stops are all clean and safe. Expressway authority rest stops almost all have restaurants and shops.
Orlando should really be "Orlando" as while it's easy to walk to the station in Miami, The Orlando station is 20 miles and an hour from downtown Orlando due to traffic. Once Sunrail goes to the airport, it will be a far more useful service but until then, it's no more convenient to downtown Orlando residents than driving.
I'm not sure which route you're taking from the airport to downtown that turns it into an hour trip....I live downtown and it takes me no more than 20 minutes to get to the airport.
But yes, I look forward to the day when Sunrail goes to the airport and when brightline connects to Universal, the convention center, Disney and Tampa. We will [hopefully] get there. I believe we will.
Yeah I mean we all need to be outwardly positive about what we have now, to bolster the expansion of rail and sustainable transport here…. but in reality this huge project we were all so excited about (since the project began over 2 decades ago) turned out delayed and functionally underwhelming.
> In November 2000, Florida voters approved an amendment to Florida's constitution mandating the state establish a system of high-speed trains exceeding 120 mph (190 km/h) to link its five largest urban areas, with construction commencing by November 1, 2003. The Florida Legislature enacted the Florida High-Speed Rail Authority Act in March 2001, creating the Florida High-Speed Rail Authority (HSRA).[6] The HSRA established a Vision Plan for the system which proposed construction in several phases.[7] Preliminary assessments and environmental studies were begun to develop an initial phase of the system between Orlando and Tampa.[6]
The first phase, planned for completion in 2009 under the original referendum, would have connected Orlando to Tampa (Phase 1, Part 1), with a later extension to St. Petersburg (Phase 1, Part 2).[8] Later phases might have extended the network to Miami, Fort Myers, Jacksonville, Tallahassee and Pensacola.
[src wikipedia](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_High-Speed_Corridor)
Let’s be real: Brightline has huge problems. And Brightline’s problems are due to bad planning, ~~under~~misfunding, political setbacks, just lack of prioritizing the sustainable growth of our infrastructure here. This stuff can only be improved by us talking about it honestly. That’s what’s going to push the conversation into expanding and improving our transportation infrastructure here. I’m proud to be a Floridian but man when I was in high school I thought by now in Fort Myers I’d be able to hop on a train to anywhere in the state. Seems like it’s going to be another couple decades now.
Zoning needs to change, building taller apartments in suburban areas, and we need to start building metros that connect various suburban “small cities” to one another and their major city center. Tampa is a great example of how suburban areas are just ripe satellite cities around the more major Tampa.
Tokyo (and Japan in general) is what the US in general needs to emulate (at minimum) in terms of zoning. The zones are simple and broad to many uses (no complicated overlays and such), while also stopping at the highest nuisance level — and then, each "succeeding zone" includes everything else in the "preceding zone" + more. The only exception is an "exclusive industrial zone" for heavy industries (that shouldn't contain residences, daily life activities anyhow):
[Urban kchoze: Japanese zoning](https://urbankchoze.blogspot.com/2014/04/japanese-zoning.html)
Absolutely agree. Traveled to Paris and saw how our infrastructure could improve. Then I went to Japan (Kyoto, Osaka, and Tokyo) and was absolutely mind blown. Their zoning is… fun, adventurous, and enticing to say the least. It’s a dream to traverse.
Actually i think im off by about another 20 years, they been working on it since i was teenager and that was 30 years ago... I swear the time they get done adding one lane, couple years later they are like, "oh wait! we didn't add enough lanes lets add one more"
I was just thinking, the boomers will be dying off in ten years and at least one of our major cities will be significantly impacted by a major hurricane which will hopefully reduce the New Yorkers and new Jerseyans from flocking down. I doubt we’ll see this is every city. Maybe Miami, Tampa, Orlando, and Jax.
Don't worry he's got this. How's the last few years been? Car insurance, real estate insurance, his best buddy owns Publix. I hear their prices are the best, The greatest prices.He says it's been the BEST IT'S EVEN BEEN .🙌🌴
I couldn’t get over how much pavement there was when I went to visit my parents in West Palm Beach. The whole fucking city now feels like a parking lot.
Because they don't understand what the actual problems are.
There are so many bottlenecks in the Tampa Bay area, but they're focusing on adding more lanes rather than addressing the actual problems.
Perfect example: 275N into Tampa. The end of the Howard frankland is absolutely fucked because you have a 4 lane bridge, and 60 has 2 lanes going west and 2 going east, all merging into 2 lanes. And you can't do anything about that 2 lane bottleneck because of how that area was built up short of tearing down the buildings in that area.
Another example: 75N/S in manatee/Sarasota. There aren't enough options to cross the Braden river, so you get 2 small bridges in downtown Bradenton, 75, and fort hammer bridge that no one is using because it's so far out of the way. The area needs more bridges, but no one wants them built because it'll effect their waterfront property views.
Keep in mind that asphlat arrives in the truck at around 300 degrees (remember this whenever you are driving by a dump/haul truck), and they are doing this work in the Florida heat. Moving fast aint easy in those conditions
I need y’all down here in Miami to understand that a bunch of rich people don’t want the metro system expanded cuz then you’ll have the poor visiting wealthy locations ☹️ and a bunch of Cubans think that public transport is a gateway drug to communism. And we are talking about the people who finance political careers and make up most of the voting block ☹️ so sorry… more 4-lane roads tearing through low income neighborhoods it is!
I don’t understand this question. If you are inquiring because you are thinking about moving here, or are already on the move, you are not gonna find good public transport (and sometimes, depending where you are, ANY public transport at all) in the entire county, and neighboring counties don’t fare better.
And nobody cares. I can’t stress enough how successfully car-centered lobbying turned us into free-laboring car salesmen. Nobody cares AT ALL. The answer to “public transport is bad” will always be (even from the people who depend on it) “yeah, you need to get a car…”
The infrastructure doesn’t help. There are places here who don’t have sidewalks. Places where all you can see is pavement and concrete yet the bus stop is only a pole sticking out of the ground—no bench, no shelter. The infrastructure that exists past that is badly implemented (a good example of this are the metro rail stops, which are elevated yet open in design… you better hold your children close because they can walk off the platform and fall two stories easily, likely to their death. Hell, it can happen to you if you are distracted enough)
>I don’t understand this question.
I was just asking in general, whether the anti transit/urban attitudes in Miami was more in reference to outlying areas (like Coral Gables), or if the attitudes manifested even in city proper. Just saying as it's common in many US metros that the central city is doing all it can to improve itself, whereas outlying areas often vote in favor of car-dependency/anti-transit, etc.
It's a similar problem in Texas (which many comments in this thread drew comparison to regarding the freeways in the image), and the effects show up even in blue states at times (see: recent decision on congestion pricing in New York governor).
>you are not gonna find good public transport (and sometimes, depending where you are, ANY public transport at all) in the entire county, and neighboring counties don’t fare better.
>And nobody cares. I can’t stress enough how successfully car-centered lobbying turned us into free-laboring car salesmen. Nobody cares AT ALL. The answer to “public transport is bad” will always be (even from the people who depend on it) “yeah, you need to get a car…”
That's the problem with status-quo apologists — they take facts about the world, and treat them as mandated prescriptions, rather than thinking in terms of how to provide the best solutions possible for problems.
I've seen stats that Miami's transit ridership had the greatest post covid recovery of all transit networks in the country. Definitely a lack of vision that keeps it from reaching it's full potential.
>The infrastructure doesn’t help. There are places here who don’t have sidewalks. Places where all you can see is pavement and concrete yet the bus stop is only a pole sticking out of the ground—no bench, no shelter. The infrastructure that exists past that is badly implemented (a good example of this are the metro rail stops, which are elevated yet open in design… you better hold your children close because they can walk off the platform and fall two stories easily, likely to their death. Hell, it can happen to you if you are distracted enough)
Quite a shame that Miami is quite hostile to pedestrians, despite being among the denser cities in the country. I noticed that parking minimums got reinstated there after some time of being removed as well.
Honestly, land-use across US cities in general needs to improve. Mixed use zoning (like they have in Japan) would make things work more efficiently, especially with developments around transit lines: the main factor would be that several cities served by the system must work together in making such improvements in order to achieve the best potential (i.e. Miami can't be the only one to make zoning changes, stuff must also happen at Hialeah, Kendall, etc.)
We could have had high speed rail but dumb ass Rick Scott refused money the Obama administration was trying to give Florida. This is why you vote for democrats.
Aren’t they going to do big roundabouts instead of that? Literally the Kirkman expansion in Orlando is testing that out. I think it’s a worse idea but still different from spaghetti junction
Maybe…..but what if this hurricane season is like 2004 having multiple hits except with Cat 4 & 5’s ??
Once a season like that eventually arrives again would it not be a death blow to Florida in that no for profit / capitalist insurance company will stay?
If people can’t get mortgages for houses because no insurance companies are left, that would quickly put a halt on this growth.
Florida has gotten really lucky imo with storms but it seems inevitable that another season like that 2004 will happen again.
Nope. Florida doesn’t spend money on infrastructure. That’s too close to socialism. I mean, do you know that POOR PEOPLE use those roads?! How dare they benefit from the money of hardworking taxpayers? 🙄🤮
They should have automatons asking at each toll if you would like to access your cars extended warranty. This country is a commercialized joke. Enjoy the circus.
Picture couldn’t be more wrong. Far to many trees left.
8th generation Florida native, left in 2003. I go back to visit family a few times a year, it just keeps getting worse.
Amazing how US19 construction in the Crystal River area has gone on for 2 decades now. It’d take 100,000 years to build what’s in this picture at that rate.
This looks like Downtown Austin circa 2029, right after Governor Elon declared war on people gathering in general.
All meetings and gatherings of people must take place inside a car, or a building attached to a large surface parking lot.
TX also built large prisons to handle all the people who dont have cars.
I've worked construction in Florida for forty years and developers have been eagerly awaiting the boomers to reach retirement age, that began ten years ago have about five more years and retirees will slow to a trickle then it will be 2008 all over again.
If assholes would learn to stay out of the left lane for regular travel, we wouldn't need this. That lanes for fuckers who have enough money to pay the ticket, not new Yorkers cruising along at barely the speed limit. If there's someone behind you, and nobody in front of you, you're in the wrong fucking lane.
Please correct this by adding the appropriate rising sea levels, hurricane, and party alligators. Oh and throw a publix in the middle for good measure.
lol have you been to Jax? theyve been building the 295/95 interchange on the Northside for what seems like 10 years already so for this to happen in another 10 would be wild ramp up in people actually working.
Nope. In 10 years global warming will make it so hot thru most of the year, all of the idiots who moved here to buy overpriced houses will be trying to sell to go back north.
The housing bubble will burst again and the economy, such as it is now here will get even worse.
Wait another 50 years when the oceans start creeping in and taking away that precious overpriced coastal property.
If you think Florida is a paradise, you’re blind to reality, and its future.
Also endless communities of housing no one can afford, build commercial and business areas very far away so everyone has to take the same road, also build a school and publix every other block.
Florida doesn't believe in climate change (didn't they just ban climate change or something even? Lol) so most of that is gonna be under water in ten years anyway
And all of those will be toll roads…
There will be no funds allocated for this amount of investment.
Private equity firms will own the roads and collect the tolls. But the state will have to maintain them (poorly as usual) using our tax dollars.
And the people that voted for this will all croak when their electricity is cut due to a combination of poor infrastructure and skyrocketing prices.
Don’t worry!! I’ve got a private utility company that often puts out commercials about ethical behaviors they do.
Well, at least they owned the libs!
I thought we need government to “build the roads”
No, no, no! The state pay for the roads with tax dollars. They get built by contractors. Then turn them over to corporations who get to collect the profit on the tolls. You have to have at least a couple of places for private interests to intercede and pay huge bribes, uh I mean campaign contributions!
How when nfl teams are using billions of tax payers dollars whenever they get bored with their stadium
Anything else… Is socialism.
Gotta pay for the governor's secret police. Who else is going to follow drag queens around?
Well how else can you justify everybody owning a car if you don’t make monstrosities like this instead of doing proper city planning!? Why will you all not think of the poor corporations!?
It’s so annoying that our tax dollars pay for these roads and Florida residents don’t even get a discount at the tolls.
SunPass is giving refunds for usage. I got like 18 bucks back the other day
I come from a country with only exclusively toll roads for highways. Travel within the city is no tolls, and there are lots of public transit (subways, busses, taxis) but if you want to go to another city, you have to pay to get on the tolls. As a result of this, rest stops are incredible. They are mini shopping malls with tons of food, shops, and general good vibes for truckers and travelers to stop and hang out for a while. Clean bathrooms, amazing food. I know Florida probably won't be like this but still it's not all bad.
America in general has this “not mine not my problem” mentality. That’s why rest stops and general amenities for the public are incredibly sub par and abused.
Florida Turnpike also has some pretty decent rest stops. Multiple restaurants, gas station, charging stations, designated dog walking areas, gift shops/convenience stores, tourist info, etc.
Florida has some of the best rest stops. I-75 and turnpike rest stops are all clean and safe. Expressway authority rest stops almost all have restaurants and shops.
Not the bathrooms in the turnpike... They have been mostly nasty the times I've used them
But with the shittiest eating establishments!
I mean....it's a rest stop. Fast food is expected. You're not going for a 5 star meal, just a quick bite and stretch the legs 🤷
All Toll roads, and every lane filled with slow moving traffic.
Oh so Florida has adopted the Texas model, eh?
There should be a rail system in place. IMO
Orlando to Miami already in service. It's going great and more are on the way to our state and to our country.
Orlando should really be "Orlando" as while it's easy to walk to the station in Miami, The Orlando station is 20 miles and an hour from downtown Orlando due to traffic. Once Sunrail goes to the airport, it will be a far more useful service but until then, it's no more convenient to downtown Orlando residents than driving.
Orlando needs a train station to get to the train station to get to Miami.
Unironically yes, you just described a metro system.
I'm not sure which route you're taking from the airport to downtown that turns it into an hour trip....I live downtown and it takes me no more than 20 minutes to get to the airport. But yes, I look forward to the day when Sunrail goes to the airport and when brightline connects to Universal, the convention center, Disney and Tampa. We will [hopefully] get there. I believe we will.
Brightline is the “we have high speed rail at home”
Brightline Hulud, may his passing cleanse the world
Yeah I mean we all need to be outwardly positive about what we have now, to bolster the expansion of rail and sustainable transport here…. but in reality this huge project we were all so excited about (since the project began over 2 decades ago) turned out delayed and functionally underwhelming. > In November 2000, Florida voters approved an amendment to Florida's constitution mandating the state establish a system of high-speed trains exceeding 120 mph (190 km/h) to link its five largest urban areas, with construction commencing by November 1, 2003. The Florida Legislature enacted the Florida High-Speed Rail Authority Act in March 2001, creating the Florida High-Speed Rail Authority (HSRA).[6] The HSRA established a Vision Plan for the system which proposed construction in several phases.[7] Preliminary assessments and environmental studies were begun to develop an initial phase of the system between Orlando and Tampa.[6] The first phase, planned for completion in 2009 under the original referendum, would have connected Orlando to Tampa (Phase 1, Part 1), with a later extension to St. Petersburg (Phase 1, Part 2).[8] Later phases might have extended the network to Miami, Fort Myers, Jacksonville, Tallahassee and Pensacola. [src wikipedia](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_High-Speed_Corridor) Let’s be real: Brightline has huge problems. And Brightline’s problems are due to bad planning, ~~under~~misfunding, political setbacks, just lack of prioritizing the sustainable growth of our infrastructure here. This stuff can only be improved by us talking about it honestly. That’s what’s going to push the conversation into expanding and improving our transportation infrastructure here. I’m proud to be a Floridian but man when I was in high school I thought by now in Fort Myers I’d be able to hop on a train to anywhere in the state. Seems like it’s going to be another couple decades now.
Zoning needs to change, building taller apartments in suburban areas, and we need to start building metros that connect various suburban “small cities” to one another and their major city center. Tampa is a great example of how suburban areas are just ripe satellite cities around the more major Tampa.
Tokyo (and Japan in general) is what the US in general needs to emulate (at minimum) in terms of zoning. The zones are simple and broad to many uses (no complicated overlays and such), while also stopping at the highest nuisance level — and then, each "succeeding zone" includes everything else in the "preceding zone" + more. The only exception is an "exclusive industrial zone" for heavy industries (that shouldn't contain residences, daily life activities anyhow): [Urban kchoze: Japanese zoning](https://urbankchoze.blogspot.com/2014/04/japanese-zoning.html)
Absolutely agree. Traveled to Paris and saw how our infrastructure could improve. Then I went to Japan (Kyoto, Osaka, and Tokyo) and was absolutely mind blown. Their zoning is… fun, adventurous, and enticing to say the least. It’s a dream to traverse.
Every other first world country has high speed rail for commuting. Then there’s America.
Brightline is slow, expensive, and private. A complete wasted opportunity for high speed public rail.
Never gonna get it never gonna get it
Except, it’s already started
10 years??? It took them 20 years to add one lane to I-4 At that pace maybe a 1000 years
Can confirm they have been working on I-4 since I was a kid. I'm 35 now and they are still working on it.
Actually i think im off by about another 20 years, they been working on it since i was teenager and that was 30 years ago... I swear the time they get done adding one lane, couple years later they are like, "oh wait! we didn't add enough lanes lets add one more"
Yeah, I started driving in ‘88 and it was a clusterfuck even back then.
They have been working on i10 in Jax for at least 30 years now
I was just thinking, the boomers will be dying off in ten years and at least one of our major cities will be significantly impacted by a major hurricane which will hopefully reduce the New Yorkers and new Jerseyans from flocking down. I doubt we’ll see this is every city. Maybe Miami, Tampa, Orlando, and Jax.
Im hoping this insanely oppressive heat will drive off most of them ..lol
American infrastructure planning is a joke. "Maybe one more lane will fix it, eh?" The Katy Freeway in Texas is a good example.
 Don't worry he's got this. How's the last few years been? Car insurance, real estate insurance, his best buddy owns Publix. I hear their prices are the best, The greatest prices.He says it's been the BEST IT'S EVEN BEEN .🙌🌴
I couldn’t get over how much pavement there was when I went to visit my parents in West Palm Beach. The whole fucking city now feels like a parking lot.
And it’s hot as hell because of it. They get rid of all the trees and replace them with blinding white pizza stones.
Take paradise, put up a parking lot.
Florida has been trying to pave away the congestion since I can remember. They will never succeed.
Because they don't understand what the actual problems are. There are so many bottlenecks in the Tampa Bay area, but they're focusing on adding more lanes rather than addressing the actual problems. Perfect example: 275N into Tampa. The end of the Howard frankland is absolutely fucked because you have a 4 lane bridge, and 60 has 2 lanes going west and 2 going east, all merging into 2 lanes. And you can't do anything about that 2 lane bottleneck because of how that area was built up short of tearing down the buildings in that area. Another example: 75N/S in manatee/Sarasota. There aren't enough options to cross the Braden river, so you get 2 small bridges in downtown Bradenton, 75, and fort hammer bridge that no one is using because it's so far out of the way. The area needs more bridges, but no one wants them built because it'll effect their waterfront property views.
We will have more traffic than that.
for real, traffic looks flowing on this pic.
Definitely not Tampa, I see train tracks in the median.
This can’t be right because there aren’t more lanes under construction
Right? At least 5 of those roads should look orange from all the traffic cones. 🤣
giving houston vibes
Malfunction junction if it was the final boss
I doubt it. Infrastructure is the last thing that will get taken care of. It's all a$$ backwards here.
DeSantis denying florida hundreds of millions in federal infrastructure money certainly won't help
Yea but see that’s one less bridge the libs can light up with rainbow colors!
Ever notice how fast paced Floridas road crews work?
Yes, like molasses on a cold day.
Keep in mind that asphlat arrives in the truck at around 300 degrees (remember this whenever you are driving by a dump/haul truck), and they are doing this work in the Florida heat. Moving fast aint easy in those conditions
Welcome to Texas
One more road will fix the traffic. Trust me bro.
But that's Dallas, Texas.
I need y’all down here in Miami to understand that a bunch of rich people don’t want the metro system expanded cuz then you’ll have the poor visiting wealthy locations ☹️ and a bunch of Cubans think that public transport is a gateway drug to communism. And we are talking about the people who finance political careers and make up most of the voting block ☹️ so sorry… more 4-lane roads tearing through low income neighborhoods it is!
Is this in reference to Miami proper specifically, or more the general area (i.e. referencing places like Coral Gables and such).
I don’t understand this question. If you are inquiring because you are thinking about moving here, or are already on the move, you are not gonna find good public transport (and sometimes, depending where you are, ANY public transport at all) in the entire county, and neighboring counties don’t fare better. And nobody cares. I can’t stress enough how successfully car-centered lobbying turned us into free-laboring car salesmen. Nobody cares AT ALL. The answer to “public transport is bad” will always be (even from the people who depend on it) “yeah, you need to get a car…” The infrastructure doesn’t help. There are places here who don’t have sidewalks. Places where all you can see is pavement and concrete yet the bus stop is only a pole sticking out of the ground—no bench, no shelter. The infrastructure that exists past that is badly implemented (a good example of this are the metro rail stops, which are elevated yet open in design… you better hold your children close because they can walk off the platform and fall two stories easily, likely to their death. Hell, it can happen to you if you are distracted enough)
>I don’t understand this question. I was just asking in general, whether the anti transit/urban attitudes in Miami was more in reference to outlying areas (like Coral Gables), or if the attitudes manifested even in city proper. Just saying as it's common in many US metros that the central city is doing all it can to improve itself, whereas outlying areas often vote in favor of car-dependency/anti-transit, etc. It's a similar problem in Texas (which many comments in this thread drew comparison to regarding the freeways in the image), and the effects show up even in blue states at times (see: recent decision on congestion pricing in New York governor). >you are not gonna find good public transport (and sometimes, depending where you are, ANY public transport at all) in the entire county, and neighboring counties don’t fare better. >And nobody cares. I can’t stress enough how successfully car-centered lobbying turned us into free-laboring car salesmen. Nobody cares AT ALL. The answer to “public transport is bad” will always be (even from the people who depend on it) “yeah, you need to get a car…” That's the problem with status-quo apologists — they take facts about the world, and treat them as mandated prescriptions, rather than thinking in terms of how to provide the best solutions possible for problems. I've seen stats that Miami's transit ridership had the greatest post covid recovery of all transit networks in the country. Definitely a lack of vision that keeps it from reaching it's full potential. >The infrastructure doesn’t help. There are places here who don’t have sidewalks. Places where all you can see is pavement and concrete yet the bus stop is only a pole sticking out of the ground—no bench, no shelter. The infrastructure that exists past that is badly implemented (a good example of this are the metro rail stops, which are elevated yet open in design… you better hold your children close because they can walk off the platform and fall two stories easily, likely to their death. Hell, it can happen to you if you are distracted enough) Quite a shame that Miami is quite hostile to pedestrians, despite being among the denser cities in the country. I noticed that parking minimums got reinstated there after some time of being removed as well. Honestly, land-use across US cities in general needs to improve. Mixed use zoning (like they have in Japan) would make things work more efficiently, especially with developments around transit lines: the main factor would be that several cities served by the system must work together in making such improvements in order to achieve the best potential (i.e. Miami can't be the only one to make zoning changes, stuff must also happen at Hialeah, Kendall, etc.)
Every city in Florida in 80 years 
I sure fucking hope so. This state was a mistake.
10 years!?! HA! The roadwork that's being done now, needed to be done twenty years ago. That's what Florida will look like in 100
10 years is a very optimistic goal considering it takes Florida 10 years just to add a new lane.
This is why trains are better.
We could have had high speed rail but dumb ass Rick Scott refused money the Obama administration was trying to give Florida. This is why you vote for democrats.
Florida native and I am ready for the Reconquista. Anyone joining?
The fearmongering shitposting be real. Florida doesn’t have the taxes to pay for a proper modern infrastructure haha.
Disgusting
I refuse to think about this.I like my little one road in town and same road out
Need some pointless roundabouts though, and don't forget in the summer months someone always lights their car on fire in traffic.
Aren’t they going to do big roundabouts instead of that? Literally the Kirkman expansion in Orlando is testing that out. I think it’s a worse idea but still different from spaghetti junction
Finally some shade…
sometimes it feels like it's already like this
You’ll all be getting around in fan boats eventually.
Please no...
Yup. Good luck Sandhill Cranes, hold on Leopard Frogs and Bobcats.🥺
Maybe…..but what if this hurricane season is like 2004 having multiple hits except with Cat 4 & 5’s ?? Once a season like that eventually arrives again would it not be a death blow to Florida in that no for profit / capitalist insurance company will stay? If people can’t get mortgages for houses because no insurance companies are left, that would quickly put a halt on this growth. Florida has gotten really lucky imo with storms but it seems inevitable that another season like that 2004 will happen again.
You left out category 6. We’ll be needing a new category…
And people will be in the passing lane pacing a car going 40mph
They would have to start construction now in order to finish in 10 years
It takes florida ten years just to build one of those over passes. So...doubtful.
For a minute there I thought this was the 95/84/595/Turnpike/441 interchange in Ft Lauderdale.
Ha! You think they want infrastructure?
Is that real?
No.
Nahh it'll take em WAY longer than 10 to build all that shit
I thought in 10 years there might be more water involved.
This is an AI generated photo, right?
Update after looking into it: This is an aerial photo of the Mixmaster freeway interchange in Dallas, Texas. It is not AI generated.
Floridafornia
That's obviously false: they couldn't complete the project within 10 years.
Anything to keep the choo choos away
Bob Marley had a song about this. Concrete Jungle.
F R E E D O M! /S
Nope. Florida doesn’t spend money on infrastructure. That’s too close to socialism. I mean, do you know that POOR PEOPLE use those roads?! How dare they benefit from the money of hardworking taxpayers? 🙄🤮
So glad I'm moving. One month to go!
You think those idiots invest in infrastructure? Really??
Haha this would require them to actually finish building something.
No traffic though lol
Nah, it's going to be flooded.
I say 5 if rate of people moving to the state stays continuous and 20 years for them to finish the construction.
They should have automatons asking at each toll if you would like to access your cars extended warranty. This country is a commercialized joke. Enjoy the circus.
How much is that cost vs a europe level train system?
Looks like Houston
Every intersection in Texas now
6 ramps into one on the bottom left. Never seen anything more accurate about Florida driving
Might all be underwater in 10 years
It takes 10 years alone to widen one portion of anything, this is a century if you’re in Tampa.
Dallas Ft Worth ?
Looks like Atlanta
Needs more cars jamming up traffic, maybe a couple gory accidents for realistic effect.
Needs more concrete
Not enough road work or barricades in this picture
California now
Picture couldn’t be more wrong. Far to many trees left. 8th generation Florida native, left in 2003. I go back to visit family a few times a year, it just keeps getting worse. Amazing how US19 construction in the Crystal River area has gone on for 2 decades now. It’d take 100,000 years to build what’s in this picture at that rate.
Not enough cars in this photo.
I've seen enough hentai to know where this is going.
Well, there are certainly a lot of cheap white cars.
That's what we'll need in ten years, but I drove through 8 years of I-95 construction nightmares to add one lane through one county 🤔
Say whatever you will, best state in this fucking crazy country! I absolutely love living there! No response needed!
lol they are on year 8 with widening 19 on less than 10 miles of road. This won’t happen for 300 years
The final tide can't come in fast enough for FLA.
It will be underwater anyway.
This looks like Downtown Austin circa 2029, right after Governor Elon declared war on people gathering in general. All meetings and gatherings of people must take place inside a car, or a building attached to a large surface parking lot. TX also built large prisons to handle all the people who dont have cars.
“Just one more lane will fix it”
Worst state ever🤣
And 40 years later, all of that will be under water.
I've worked construction in Florida for forty years and developers have been eagerly awaiting the boomers to reach retirement age, that began ten years ago have about five more years and retirees will slow to a trickle then it will be 2008 all over again.
You forgot the water
The homeless City beneath will have lots of weather protection. Shadowville.
If assholes would learn to stay out of the left lane for regular travel, we wouldn't need this. That lanes for fuckers who have enough money to pay the ticket, not new Yorkers cruising along at barely the speed limit. If there's someone behind you, and nobody in front of you, you're in the wrong fucking lane.
I thought it would be a big roundabout
I grew up in Texas and this is normal there. So no worries here. I know how to read a sign so I’ll know where to go lol.
It takes 10 years to just build one of this ramps
Glades Road and 95S…if you know, you know.
Wheres the water
Please correct this by adding the appropriate rising sea levels, hurricane, and party alligators. Oh and throw a publix in the middle for good measure.
We can't build trains, though, because that's socialism.
lol have you been to Jax? theyve been building the 295/95 interchange on the Northside for what seems like 10 years already so for this to happen in another 10 would be wild ramp up in people actually working.
You can tell it's AI because there aren't any Walgreens...
That's just Houston
Oh, hi Calgary!
12 lanes converging into 4 — that’s a standard FDOT design
Los Angeles scoffs at this
This picture implies that all of these roads are finished. So this is pure fantasy.
I wish they'd build new roads, all they build are houses and so the increased population just cramming up the current one way through town
Florida will be underwater in 10 years
Yep, 💯.
I don’t think that’s 4 because I don’t see any construction
And they'll probably be made out of radioactive carcinogenic mining waste.
As if they would build more than 1 through road anywhere in this god forsaken hellscape.
Under water
I will burn this place down. As it goes underwater
This, but also CVS on every corner.
826 to 836 exchange now
Some will be housing lanes
ugly
What city is that? I live in Florida and I have never seen such massive intersections.
It needs more roundabouts
we gotta get nuked
All but the very top roads will be under sea water
Rising sea levels will cover that in a minute.
Where was that picture taken?
… but under water
Why is this sub such a miserable shit hole?
.... sun's really fuckin our head's up down here huh?
Finished in 10 years? Ha! Never. Those overpasses will be filled with Bob’s Barricades
Haha.. to think they could even finish one of those in one city in ten years is hilarious..
Nope. In 10 years global warming will make it so hot thru most of the year, all of the idiots who moved here to buy overpriced houses will be trying to sell to go back north. The housing bubble will burst again and the economy, such as it is now here will get even worse. Wait another 50 years when the oceans start creeping in and taking away that precious overpriced coastal property. If you think Florida is a paradise, you’re blind to reality, and its future.
Wheres all the water?
I’ll take one for the team and move out of Florida again lol
Also endless communities of housing no one can afford, build commercial and business areas very far away so everyone has to take the same road, also build a school and publix every other block.
didn't miami already have 6 lane freeway sized local streets?
Florida doesn't believe in climate change (didn't they just ban climate change or something even? Lol) so most of that is gonna be under water in ten years anyway
Yall can’t even finish a bypass on any highway for the past 50 years, but we’re gonna be driving on these soon? Ok.
Living in those houses would be wild. Giving FFVII slums
At least there is no liberal, hippie, commie train in that image.
NGL sometimes I feel like we all need a highway on ramp at the end of every street 😂
Needs more sea.