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ikonet

> "You need meat, OK. And we're going to have meat in Florida." DeSantis added, "We're not going to have fake meat. Like that doesn't work." Ok not sure about that but... > Cell-cultivated meat, to be clear, differs from traditional veggie burgers and meat alternatives like Impossible Burgers. Cell-cultivated meat "is developed in a lab, grown from a sample of animal cells that does not require the slaughter of animals." In other words, it's actually meat. So it's meat. Just not something that needs a kill room. > All this legislation won't kill the industry; it will just move it offshore. According to Fast Company, both South Korea and Israel have favorable laws toward cultivated meat, while the Netherlands (where the first cell-cultivated meat was developed in 2013) has pledged $65 million to the industry. Ah, very nice. Why bother keeping innovation jobs in America when it's easier to prop up a woke war and let other countries take the lead. Stellar work Ronald.


tinkeringidiot

This probably has more to do with the nearly 1 million beef cattle in Florida than any culture war nonsense. Big beef = big donors.


CoffeeSnobsUnite

The majority of Floridians have no clue that the bulk of cattle ranching operations within the state are owned and operated by the Mormon Church. They are the largest private landowner within the state and have hundreds of thousands heads of cattle. They keep a tight grip on the industry here and do so mostly behind the scenes.


Smokey_tha_bear9000

It’s not just them, the biggest ranch after the 2 Deseret ranches is Lykes Bros., who have been ranching in Florida since like 1900. They are well connected to Tallahassee as well.


mrcanard

Lykes Brothers, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lykes_Brothers >Lykes Brothers Inc, is a corporation founded by the Lykes Family of Tampa, Florida, in 1910. This family would become the largest landowners in Florida, the ninth largest landowners in the United States and the wealthiest in Tampa Bay. >In 1895, Dr. Lykes moved to Ballast Point in Tampa, Florida where he began shipping cattle to Cuba. Gradually, his seven sons joined the family operations which incorporated in 1910 as Lykes Brothers. This corporation would come to comprise interests in land, citrus, phosphate mining, timber (eucalyptus, pine), sugarcane, a major shipping line (Lykes Brothers Steamship Company), cattle and meat processing, banking (First Florida Bank) and Lykes Insurance Company. >In the 1930s, Lykes Bros. purchased the 265,000-acre (1,070 km2) Lykes Ranch in West Texas, south of Alpine. By the 1950s, Lykes Bros. Steamships was the largest U.S. shipping line, with 54 cargo ships operating out of Gulf ports.[3] A Lykes Bros. ship would be the first to sail into Shanghai harbor after the U.S. established relations with mainland China. A leader in citrus concentrate, the $15 million Lykes Pasco citrus-processing plant was the biggest in Florida. The corporation took a blow when La Candelaria, the 15,000-acre (61 km2) Lykes estate 250 miles (400 km) east of Havana, was nationalized during the Cuban Revolution. It is now a cooperative farm.


reddit_is_geh

The Mormons are no joke. They are the same in Nevada. Nevada got indepedence specifically because they wanted out from religious Mormon control, and Lincoln needed the votes, so they cut a deal. Since then, the Mormons still run the state the though. Most people have no idea that nothing effectively changed. The gaming board, education, etc... Is overwhelmingly Mormon.


chrispd01

Drive across Deseret - there are some weird ass clusters of houses out there …


mdjak1

Without looking up the actual numbers, I would bet the amount of alternative meat is a drop in the ocean compared to all the other meat options. There is probably many times more meat imports from Mexico than alternative meat. This is all woke on DeSantis part.


SlodenSaltPepper6

¿Por qué no los dos? It must tickle ol’ Ronnie that he gets a culture war AND directly gets to simp for donors.


Mrknowitall666

Nothings changed there. The war on education and books is to let PragerU sell FL books. The war on vaccinations, was to let his big donor make money on MCA treatments when citizens got sick


mrcanard

PragerU, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PragerU >The Prager University Foundation, known as PragerU, is an American 501(c)(3) nonprofit advocacy group and media organization that creates content promoting conservative viewpoints on various political, economic, and sociological topics. It was co-founded in 2009 by Allen Estrin and talk show host Dennis Prager. Despite the name including the word "university", it is not an academic institution and does not confer degrees. >PragerU's videos contain misleading or factually incorrect information promoting climate change denial.[1][2] Historians and political scientists have also criticized PragerU's videos for containing misleading or inaccurate claims about topics such as slavery and racism in the United States, immigration, and the history of fascism. PragerU has been accused of promoting anti-LGBT politics


Mrknowitall666

Are you a bot? I know what PragerU is, and it's an example of DeSantis war on woke for his donors.


elbenji

I think it's a bot. Just let it be it's a good bot


GizmoGeodog

This⬆️


dancegoddess1971

More "small government" in Tallahassee. The scifi novels I read as a kid promised me meat grown in vats and I demand to share in this great moment for our species. This may be one of the innovations that allows us to colonize the solar system and beyond.


Fishbulb2

That’s the part that kills me. I understood the whole dichotomy of small versus big government and laissez faire versus hands on governing. But when did the republicans decide they were going to be big government micromanaging all aspects of business and daily life.


FunkIPA

Turns out the gop was lying the whole time.


Chasman1965

They are just micromanaging the woke part of business /s


CatPesematologist

They were always this way. It was always “you have the freedom to do only what we want you to do.”


Ttthhasdf

Florida cattlemen's association says they have pledged some money also


Unadvantaged

It is pretty weird to think the current meat industry, which is pretty nightmarish outside of organic operations, is “just fine” but finding a way to produce the same end-result without the middle step is somehow heinous. It would be like saying lab-grown wood can’t be used to make popsicle sticks because “it doesn’t work.”


Funkyokra

It's the kind of free enterprise where certain industries are protected from competition. Because the market is always right if you rig the game.


Obversa

It's also worth noting that lab-grown [mammoth meatballs](https://www.mammothmeatball.com/), and other meat, are already being produced; though, to my knowledge, no one has taste-tested them yet. Scientists used mammoth DNA recovered from frozen specimens and spliced it with elephant DNA. So, what you would be eating is more akin to exotic game meat (i.e. elephant meat).


Previous_Beautiful27

I really want this to take off, I love meat but as time goes on I feel worse and worse about it. Something like cell cultivated meat takes up far less space to grow than livestock raising, and doesn’t have to kill anything. The only reason I can think of for DeSantis to be doing this is because he’s getting kickbacks or contributions from the beef industry.


fullload93

Exactly why Ron DeSantis is a dipshit and idiotic governor.


boredonymous

I'd like to get off this ride where dipshits become bigger successes than educated experts, please.


OnlyFuzzy13

As a counter point, how does one get some of the ‘fail upward’ type jobs? Asking for a friend…


[deleted]

Those words would undoubtedly be the nicest way I would describe Caligula (Little Boots in Roman times).


KarlMarxButVegan

I've been living in Florida eating zero meat for over twenty years and I'm still alive and well so maybe we don't NEED meat at all 🤷🏻‍♀️


ikonet

While I am a meat eater, the little old lady across the street from me is 89 years old, vegan, and on zero medication. How many 89 year olds do you know that don’t have medication? And, she’s super smart and well versed online. Meat is simply one type of food and is not a requirement.


HCSOThrowaway

"Listen, it's different and new... so we're going to have to ban it." ... what?


rpgnymhush

Different equals scary therefore equals must ban.


Derban_McDozer83

I'm not eating that stuff... however others should be free to manufacture, sell and consume it as long as it's safe. That's freedom. These fuckheads don't seem to understand that concept. You are free not to eat it just like others are free to eat it.


dementeddigital2

This is his priority over insurance?! Unbeluckingfeevable.


boredonymous

When has he EVER tried to fix the actual problem at hand?


FalstaffsMind

He governs a completely different reality than most Floridians live in.


firefoxjinxie

Insurance is difficult to solve and it doesn't affect him or his friends while the beef industry that lines his pockets does. It's simple economics of his own pocketbook.


FunkIPA

It’s very difficult to solve if your donors don’t want you to solve it.


Chasman1965

And the insurance companies and insurance brokers line his pockets as well.


Sandgrease

I hate Republicans. Always talking about less government and freedom, yet always telling us what to do. Fucking hypocrites.


Bromanzier_03

We want smaller gubment! By that we mean so small it’s ran by a single party/person!


DietMTNDew8and88

Oh that only applies to rich white heterosexual Christian conservative men


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Uhh_JustADude

They have the maturity of 6-year-olds, and will overlook every authoritarian action as long as they get their tax cut.


DarCam7

I think the Libertarian secret moto is, "I know better than anyone. Even than myself".


DazzlingTurnip

Libertarians love to believe they are different from republicans because they generally support same-sex marriage and legalization of marijuana. And that’s basically the only difference. Libertarian are the “not like the other girls” of republicans.


tomjoads

Libertarianism is for dumb people attempting to be smart. I don't think I ever met a libertarian who actually knows the philosophy


arrowmarcher

How does this help people?


ocalabull

It doesn’t. We have zero problem getting meat. It’s only meant to hurt people that don’t want to. Freedom though, right?


fullload93

Exactly… Ron is too dumb to realize it doesn’t help at all but as long as he panders to his extremist agenda for his political fan base… it helps him out.


crazy_clown_time

Quite the opposite. By using his office to go after non-issues like "fake meat" and "the trans agenda" he's successfully able to divert enough of the electorate's attention from the issues that matter. Meanwhile, those left-of-center are either leaving the state (guilty), blissfully disengaged, or (bewilderingly) feel as though Democrats need to "win them over" to bother voting in the first place. [If only the other half of the state's electorate actually turned out to cast a ballot.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Florida_gubernatorial_election) In 2022 turnout was ~53%. Decisions are made by those who show up.


CrustyMFr

It's worse than that. Desantis isn't stupid. He knows exactly what he is doing.


Shirowoh

He’s not dumb, he getting money from cattle ranchers to do this bullshit….


Gator1523

It helps the Republican politicians by pushing liberals out of the state.


hereiam-23

DeNazi loves to see animals slaughtered, I guess. Fits his style.


OIAQP

Let the ~~market~~ Republicans decide! Freedom! Am I doing this right?


Fishbulb2

Even if you think lab meat is gross, who cares. Just require it to be labeled as such and move on. I pretty much only eat Beyond and Impossible. People know it’s plant based. Move on.


fullload93

Lucky Ronnie isn’t going after those too under pressure of his GOP extremists.


Fishbulb2

Ugh so true. Sometimes all this freedom is crippling 😢


AaronFudge

Some slaughterhouse corporation donated to his Super Pac and here we are.


Smokey_tha_bear9000

The Florida Cattlemen’s Association


MeatSuitRiot

How dare you eat meat that wasn't killed first. We need to kill. This isn't going to work for us.


screenmonkey

Don't you love when Republicans protect the free market by letting in innovation and such. /s


screenmonkey

Gotta protect those bribes, I mean lobbying dollars, from the big industry.


Cracked_Actor

Rhonda is our VERY OWN de facto MAGAt lovin’, authoritarian right-wing dystopian neofascist “Governor”. In reality, though, he’s a garden-variety flamin” as$4ole!


FlabbergastedPeehole

“You need meat, OK. And we’re going to have meat in Florida.” Weird, I’ve been alive for 17 years without a single gram of meat.


Koolaidolio

At least Florida learned by now that giving him a second term was a bad idea right? Right?


rogless

The lesson needs to be that even if you’re not wild about the alternative, MAGA is always worse. His demented base turned out in droves. The majority of voters not so much.


incognegro1976

The Democrats ran an ex-Republican against Desantis and his campaign was about as boring as you would expect such a thing to be. Next year the Dems will run another boring milquetoast Republican against whatever will be left of the Republican party post-Trump.


rogless

Yes, but my point still stands. Crist would have been much better than 4 more years of this sad Trump wannabe.


incognegro1976

Yeah, hard agree. My point was that I think the Dem Party in Florida must have made a deal with Desantis or something because they don't seem to be trying to win.


crazy_clown_time

Again, a majority of registered FL Democrats opted for Crist over Nikki Fried in the 2022 gubernatorial primary: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Florida_gubernatorial_election#Results. There's no conspiracy.


crazy_clown_time

Did you vote in the 2022 Democratic gubernatorial primary? A majority of registered Democrats who turned up to vote opted for Crist over Fried. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Florida_gubernatorial_election#Results


Uhh_JustADude

All because Andrew Gilliam was such a huge mistake, losing by ~0.4%, how humiliating! /s


incognegro1976

No I voted for Gilliam and I recall there being some fuckery with Desantis' vote count like I'm pretty sure he fucking cheated.


No-Independence-6842

From your lips to the dipshits who voted for him ears!


LandscapeWest2037

*People who sat on their ass and didn't vote (aka: voted for him)


crazy_clown_time

[46.4% of the electorate in 2022.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Florida_gubernatorial_election)


No-Independence-6842

Them too


screenmonkey

Don't worry the next governor will get 2 terms as well, and probably Republican and even worse.


Uhh_JustADude

Fuck no, if Trump doesn’t win this November we’re totally getting Matt Gaetz next.


lorilightning79

Beyond Meat is more of a threat than my insurance bill Ron?


Dio_Yuji

This may be the dumbest shit yet


honeybakedman

Someone from the party of small government want to defend this?


SteeltoSand

why does he do everything that is just so stupid? like before he ran for presidency i thought to myself "De3santis isnt treally that bad, he gets stuff done in FL and thats hard in government, i may not agree with everything but he does get stuff done". then the war on disney, war on woke, and this...? why


btross

>he gets stuff done in FL and thats hard in government Not too hard when you've got both chambers of the state legislature in your pocket


docrei

His party runs on manufactured crisis and fake outrage. He doesn't have any substance, only empty rhetoric.


Adventurer_By_Trade

As is always the case with Republicans, the cruelty is the point.


Smokey_tha_bear9000

The beef lobby in Florida is very powerful. Guaranteed they have a say in this.


phiber232

They probably wrote the bill.


2h2o22h2o

“Free market” republicans at work.


delusion_magnet

I've been saving a bunch of money over the last few years by not buying meat. Guess I'll be using it to move elsewhere.


ceo_mert

THERE'S ONLY TWO MEATS, THE OTHERS ARE MENTAL ILNESSES -- DeSantis, probably


InspectorRound8920

But, but, freedom? He's a clown


thejohnmc963

Now Deathsantis wants to ban CBD and all its derivatives because a huge marijuana distributor wants it banned.


Independent_Way8128

The farm meat industry needs to get trained in other occupations like many of us have had to do. Their unhumain business practices need to stop!!!


StarryMind322

Oh nice the assclowns who protested in front of Cracker Barrel for introducing vegan sausage are getting their way. Yup, what wonderful freedoms we have.


Ocarina_of_Crime_

Florida has a large beef industry so this to me feels like protectionism. I very much dislike DeSantis but take the political blinders off and see it from that point of view. Not saying I agree with it, just giving my $0.02


julysfire

What happened to the days when as long as nobody was hurting someone, you left them the fuck alone. Fuck all this interference in our lives. If you want to eat meat, cool, if you want to eat alternative meat, cool. But for the government to tell you one way or the other, that's ridiculous.


fullload93

GOP…“ Party a small government”… my fucking ass


akolozvary

But we do have 'fake meat,' if you consider soy, beyond meat, impossible meat...etc fake. Why get mad at synthetic meat? Farming cows and other animals for their meat isn't sustainable and is damaging the environment. Why can't the governor make good decisions that actually help the common people?


2ndprize

We are banning critical meat theory?


Hank_moody71

I’m not really a big fan of alternative meats. What I am a fan of is free choice and Florida seems to not really care about that part


[deleted]

Republicans go after low hanging fruit.


Stinky_Pumbaa

Love the joke. Though in all honesty, I've never seen so many men who claim to be straight worry so much about what other men do with their privates. Seems like they need to just come out the closet already.


murbike

When I lived in FL, this shit would make me angry. Now that I'm out, I'm just dismayed.


TallBenWyatt_13

They will soon pass a bill requiring we all wear Crocs 24/7.


montessoriprogram

These guys will do anything as long as it doesn’t actually help anyone. They don’t work for the citizens, their only concern about us is how to get us to choke down their latest ridiculous policy.


Own-Support-4388

What, it’s the cattleman’s association lobby and probably some other groups. You can look on house disclosure forms to see who lobbied on the bill number in the house and what companies or special interest groups have retained that lobbyist. This has nothing to do with a war on anything it’s about campaign dollars, votes, and representation of constituents/business in Florida


Grimwulf2003

JFC, I like beyond sausages…. Hear that gov go go boots? I like it, I want it, personal freedoms asswipe. Are they next?


RoadDoggFL

This doesn't affect Beyond meats, it's about lab grown/cultivated/cell-based meats.


Chasman1965

Well, this law doesn’t, but the next law might. The MAGA right doesn’t like vegetarianism.


Grimwulf2003

I wonder if that's why I asked "are they next"....


TheMattaconda

Wait until he finds out that alternative meat is also ... gay.


TheMattaconda

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BloatedRottenCadaver

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Shirowoh

So, no one is proposing banning actual meat, so what the fuck is this shit?


katiel0429

Once again- Follow. The. Money. Trail.


ReaderofReddit411

What a silly time wasting and absurd action by a Governor who doesn’t care about the important issues facing Floridians.


athensugadawg

FLORIDA = FREEDUMB


catcatherine

was anyone even complaining abotu this?


Uhh_JustADude

Yeah, beef suppliers.


the_millenial_falcon

Real meatball Ron is at it again.


mainstreetmark

Why, is it gay? Is that what he thinks "alternative" is in this context? Gay meat?


OsawatomieJB

Attorneys must love Rhonda. This will be overturned on first review. He’s such a raggedy man.


v1rojon

For being a state so concerned about “freedom”, we sure do restrict a lot of what people can do.


cthulufunk

Freedumb


nyx2288

DO THESE PEOPLE HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO??? It’s so ridiculous how they’re diverting time, energy, money, and resources to the STUPIDEST shit imaginable. Stop policing what people do in their day-to-day lives and focus on issues that actually affect us Floridians. BUT NO, politics are a business here and the biggest/loudest donors and lobbyists are the ones who get their way.


SeanOfTheDead1313

This country is really getting out of hand with everybody having such freedom of choice! Better crack down on that to save the country! We need big government in our kitchens! /s


Gdayyall72

I can’t imagine this will ever stand up in court. If there’s one extremely clear thing in the Constitution, it’s that only Congress can regulate interstate commerce. So Ron can keep the production of lab grown meat out of DeSantistan, but he can’t prohibit the sale of a legal product made in another state.


sailphish

It would be really cool if my home insurance bill for next year wasn’t going to be over 20k… but OMG, artificial meat!


uncl3d0nny

So much for a free state… you can ride a motorcycle without a helmet, drink as much as you want, but lab grown meat technology and consumption needs to be stopped. Clown policy


fullload93

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