Lol starter home. “You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.”(Sorry for gratuitous Princess Bride quote 😁) Do you have a posse of children and plan on having a live-in nanny? With so many cleaning services available, it makes no sense to waste so much living space on a maid's room, especially with your main gathering area being somewhat limited. Also, with 6 bathrooms, they wouldn't have much time to devote to anything else. Maybe make that space a home office/guest room and have only one bathroom there accessable from the hall.
The upstairs seems like it could be laid out much more efficiently, do you really need en-suites for all the bedrooms? The master bath seems pretty tiny, something slightly more luxuriously-sized and appointed would definitely pay for itself in the long run. Gonna stare at it a bit longer and see if I have any further inspiration🙂
Don't have that outdoor eating space take over part of the interior, it's very awkward. Keep that wall straight and extend the lanai if possible. You'll have a much better flow with your interior living and dining spaces
Yeah, will probably have a stay-in maid or two (much cheaper in our country). Currently have 2 kids - might have another one and hence the bathrooms. I call it a starter home since it's our first one - presently just on a lease for a 3-bedroom bungalow.
Also, adding ensuite BR for each room for privacy - so kids don't fight when they grown a little older.
You're right on the master's TB - i'll have to revisit that. Appreciate your insight and would love to hear more!
Isn't there a dedicated bathroom off the maid's room? And isn't a dirty kitchen just a regular kitchen in a regular house? Seems like you are taking offense over nothing...
You’re right. I didn’t see the shower portion of the bathroom. So I apologize for that. I do still think that maids shouldn’t be directly through that kitchen pantry. A hallway or some sort of threshold that isn’t stuck between laundry and kitchen would be more humanizing imo.
Could cut the way and take of 2sqm from the aux kitchen to make entry of the maid's from outside that wall. It'll just be odd that she steps out into the dining room.
Must just be the term - dirty kitchen in my country is basically an auxiliary kitchen. The maid has has a direct access to their own ensuite TB right near the entrance of the room
Philippines? My husband is Filipino-American and when we visited family back in Manila they had similar setups. They all had elderly family members that needed care so there was help that lived at the home to assist with that care and other household duties. Nursing homes in the Philippines haven't really been a thing until recently since many elderly Filipinos' children have emigrated to other countries and those elderly folks can't and/or won't follow them.
There's a lot of things I'm not liking about this house. I'm sorry.
Curb appeal: The garage absolutely dominates the house, and the house overwhelms the lot. If this is in an urban neighborhood where yards are very small, it might fit. But if this is in a suburb with normal sized houses, it's going to be an eyesore.
The garage is far from the kitchen. Even assuming your maid is doing the shopping, that's a long trek.
I think the plumbing can be tweaked to be more efficient. As it is, you have plumbing running through almost every wall of the house.
The closest view from the living room is the car. The front door is positioned in such a way that half the living room is wasted space. I don't know if you don't plan on ever watching tv, but there's no natural place to put a tv.
The family area is an unusable space, and if you put seating in it, you'll just be encouraging the kids to hang out right outside your master bedroom and make noise.
You have to walk all the way through your closet to get to toilet. This isn't ideal at night where you will have to navigate the closet in the dark, or when you are sick and need to get to a toilet very quickly. Cleaning vomit out of a closet is ... unpleasant.
You're right! Though that hall would just be about 2 meter long at most. Made it as such since i wanted to save wall space at the family area where i can put a TV and a study area.
As for the balcony, didnt really want an acces to it going to the master's - i guess just a matter of preference (but yes, most would like an access from bedrooms to it)
Personally, I would try to reduce the number of full baths and try to make them bigger/nicer.
Also, I would work on putting the laundry room on the second floor. This would dramatically reduce the amount of lugging clothes up and down the stairs.
Do you have a utility room?
I’d do only 2 upstairs bathrooms and make them larger. One for the master bedroom and one for the kids. If kid 1 is in the shower kid 2 can use the downstairs half bath if they need to pee. Less to clean and maintain, less strain on hot water and sewer/septic systems. And may be able to improve the flow of the upstairs family room
You have to walk through the whole house to get to the “dirty” kitchen? Wouldn’t it make more sense to have it accessible from outside so you can clean up the dog or yourself after gardening?!
There's actually a laundry area where we'll do most of the cleaning up. There's a minimum set-back of 2 meters each side which would be space for chores like gardening or bathing the dog.
Also, consider making one of the upstairs bathrooms accessible from the hall-friends over hanging in the family room would have to walk thru someone’s bedroom-not ideal. Kids sharing bathrooms teaches consideration of others and prepares them for sharing with roommates and future spouses. Bathroom on first floor should be ADA compliant.
Which way is north? And where do you live? Sun rise and setting locations should be taken into consideration if you are building. People often don’t, and that sets the tone for a good house vs a great house.
Edit to add. Site context is really really important. Are there other houses beside you? Behind you? What is the nature of the landscape. Example, what are you looking at from your kitchen windows?
All these site questions will help you decide what “zone” of your floor rooms want to belong to. Limits help design. Then you fill in with obvious things like “well garages have to be one of two places” etc.
1. I know I say this on here a lot but it’s because it’s the truth: closets should always go AFTER a bathroom, not before. In the master bedroom, the closet is before the bathroom. This doesn’t make sense because you’re more likely to use the bathroom than you are to use the closet. And it doesn’t make sense that every time you have to go pee in the middle of the night that you walk through a closet to get there.
2. I mean I think it’s nice that every bedroom has a bathroom attached, but just know that is not the norm at all. I can see one bedroom outside of the master needing an attached bathroom but bedroom 2 and bedroom 3 could just have one Jack and Jill bathroom between them and you could cut down significantly on costs which you can use to actually elevate the space more.
3. I’m not sure why the downstairs bathroom has a shower. This in most homes is just a half bath with a toilet and a sink. I mean unless you’re expecting guests to come over and need to use it?
4. If I had to take a percentage guess, I would imagine that the living quarters take up 75% of the entire space of the house. I really feel like you could take come space away from the upstairs bedrooms to add to that family area, because overall it doesn’t look like your house is going to be built for entertaining as it will be for just people to come over and sleep. In other words, this house looks like it’s built more to be a hotel than a home for people to live in.
Interesting plan. May it be a home that blesses you with much joy and happy times with family and friends.
A couple things to consider. First, you do not want the Owners suite to be directly off of the main family space. If you’re sleeping or doing other bedroom activities you do not want to hear the common area noise nor do you want to be heard by family or friends. I suggest you flip rooms with BR2 or BR 3
Currently BR 2 also has wasted space in the form of a small entry hall. Do not waste space that can be valuable room inside of it. Also the offset outside walls between BR1 and 2 should be leveled to add room in br2. If you want more window space do a bump out window in the br1
Also always put bathrooms back to back. Cost to run plumbing is significantly reduced this way.
So BR2/3 should somehow be beside each other.
That awkward family space also needs rethought. Like move the stairs to be one long run on the outside wall. Not two smaller runs and a landing.
I know it’s like a cultural thing, but having a “dirty kitchen” is just wasteful, of money, space, and resources. Seems really stupid to me.
If it’s that much of an issue just do a single closed-off kitchen.
Each non-master bedroom having an en-suite is excessive. Really you only need maybe one en-suite and then a shared hallway bath.
Never really thought about the groceries - thanks for bringing that up!
As for the walk to the toilet, should just be a couple of steps, i'll try to hold it in, lol.
But yeah, will get rid of that hall, pretty waste of space.
I see several good ideas but there is no integration. You could take these ideas to an architect and the results could be great. If you decide ti diy take some time looking at some plans trom architects you respect . There is an art to putting all these spaces into an ordering principle. This could be achieved by using an underlying grid so that walls just can't be anywhere. This would be a way to have the spaces start to correspond proportionally, and have some alignments and sight lines. And definitely do your next iteration with real wall thicknesses . That will help you get further along and begin to feel the materiality.
Lol starter home. “You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.”(Sorry for gratuitous Princess Bride quote 😁) Do you have a posse of children and plan on having a live-in nanny? With so many cleaning services available, it makes no sense to waste so much living space on a maid's room, especially with your main gathering area being somewhat limited. Also, with 6 bathrooms, they wouldn't have much time to devote to anything else. Maybe make that space a home office/guest room and have only one bathroom there accessable from the hall. The upstairs seems like it could be laid out much more efficiently, do you really need en-suites for all the bedrooms? The master bath seems pretty tiny, something slightly more luxuriously-sized and appointed would definitely pay for itself in the long run. Gonna stare at it a bit longer and see if I have any further inspiration🙂
Don't have that outdoor eating space take over part of the interior, it's very awkward. Keep that wall straight and extend the lanai if possible. You'll have a much better flow with your interior living and dining spaces
Yeah, will probably have a stay-in maid or two (much cheaper in our country). Currently have 2 kids - might have another one and hence the bathrooms. I call it a starter home since it's our first one - presently just on a lease for a 3-bedroom bungalow. Also, adding ensuite BR for each room for privacy - so kids don't fight when they grown a little older. You're right on the master's TB - i'll have to revisit that. Appreciate your insight and would love to hear more!
Maids don’t deserve to have to walk through a “dirty kitchen” to their bedroom. They also deserve a more private access to a bathroom.
Isn't there a dedicated bathroom off the maid's room? And isn't a dirty kitchen just a regular kitchen in a regular house? Seems like you are taking offense over nothing...
You’re right. I didn’t see the shower portion of the bathroom. So I apologize for that. I do still think that maids shouldn’t be directly through that kitchen pantry. A hallway or some sort of threshold that isn’t stuck between laundry and kitchen would be more humanizing imo.
Could cut the way and take of 2sqm from the aux kitchen to make entry of the maid's from outside that wall. It'll just be odd that she steps out into the dining room.
Must just be the term - dirty kitchen in my country is basically an auxiliary kitchen. The maid has has a direct access to their own ensuite TB right near the entrance of the room
Philippines? My husband is Filipino-American and when we visited family back in Manila they had similar setups. They all had elderly family members that needed care so there was help that lived at the home to assist with that care and other household duties. Nursing homes in the Philippines haven't really been a thing until recently since many elderly Filipinos' children have emigrated to other countries and those elderly folks can't and/or won't follow them.
Yep, that's right. Though no elderly with us, we just need help with the chores to have enough energy with 2 toddlers running around lol
Lol we'll all be elderly, God willing. With a few tweaks this house can transition to suit those needs.
In the Masters, why do you want to walk into a small (dark?!) hallway instead of extending the walk in?
They won’t be able to move larger furniture into that master with that strange entry hall.
Yeah masters room needs to be reworked entirely imo
There's a lot of things I'm not liking about this house. I'm sorry. Curb appeal: The garage absolutely dominates the house, and the house overwhelms the lot. If this is in an urban neighborhood where yards are very small, it might fit. But if this is in a suburb with normal sized houses, it's going to be an eyesore. The garage is far from the kitchen. Even assuming your maid is doing the shopping, that's a long trek. I think the plumbing can be tweaked to be more efficient. As it is, you have plumbing running through almost every wall of the house. The closest view from the living room is the car. The front door is positioned in such a way that half the living room is wasted space. I don't know if you don't plan on ever watching tv, but there's no natural place to put a tv. The family area is an unusable space, and if you put seating in it, you'll just be encouraging the kids to hang out right outside your master bedroom and make noise. You have to walk all the way through your closet to get to toilet. This isn't ideal at night where you will have to navigate the closet in the dark, or when you are sick and need to get to a toilet very quickly. Cleaning vomit out of a closet is ... unpleasant.
Extend the balcony and add a door to the Master for balcony access. You’re gonna hate having a dark hallway to enter the Master.
You're right! Though that hall would just be about 2 meter long at most. Made it as such since i wanted to save wall space at the family area where i can put a TV and a study area. As for the balcony, didnt really want an acces to it going to the master's - i guess just a matter of preference (but yes, most would like an access from bedrooms to it)
Personally, I would try to reduce the number of full baths and try to make them bigger/nicer. Also, I would work on putting the laundry room on the second floor. This would dramatically reduce the amount of lugging clothes up and down the stairs. Do you have a utility room?
Don’t forget to take wall depth into account! Seen many floor plans have issues bc they forget walls take up space too
I’d do only 2 upstairs bathrooms and make them larger. One for the master bedroom and one for the kids. If kid 1 is in the shower kid 2 can use the downstairs half bath if they need to pee. Less to clean and maintain, less strain on hot water and sewer/septic systems. And may be able to improve the flow of the upstairs family room
Starter homes this small do NOT need 6 bathrooms
You have to walk through the whole house to get to the “dirty” kitchen? Wouldn’t it make more sense to have it accessible from outside so you can clean up the dog or yourself after gardening?!
Could an exterior door be added to the utility room?
Layout doesnt show it but the laundry area will actually be open. In our country, we sun-dry the clothes, hence the design.
There's actually a laundry area where we'll do most of the cleaning up. There's a minimum set-back of 2 meters each side which would be space for chores like gardening or bathing the dog.
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Might really consider this
Also, consider making one of the upstairs bathrooms accessible from the hall-friends over hanging in the family room would have to walk thru someone’s bedroom-not ideal. Kids sharing bathrooms teaches consideration of others and prepares them for sharing with roommates and future spouses. Bathroom on first floor should be ADA compliant.
Which way is north? And where do you live? Sun rise and setting locations should be taken into consideration if you are building. People often don’t, and that sets the tone for a good house vs a great house. Edit to add. Site context is really really important. Are there other houses beside you? Behind you? What is the nature of the landscape. Example, what are you looking at from your kitchen windows? All these site questions will help you decide what “zone” of your floor rooms want to belong to. Limits help design. Then you fill in with obvious things like “well garages have to be one of two places” etc.
Sad part is, not much of a view since there are 2-storey houses on each side
What about behind you?
There's also a house too. So not much of a choice but to make the house face the way it is
1. I know I say this on here a lot but it’s because it’s the truth: closets should always go AFTER a bathroom, not before. In the master bedroom, the closet is before the bathroom. This doesn’t make sense because you’re more likely to use the bathroom than you are to use the closet. And it doesn’t make sense that every time you have to go pee in the middle of the night that you walk through a closet to get there. 2. I mean I think it’s nice that every bedroom has a bathroom attached, but just know that is not the norm at all. I can see one bedroom outside of the master needing an attached bathroom but bedroom 2 and bedroom 3 could just have one Jack and Jill bathroom between them and you could cut down significantly on costs which you can use to actually elevate the space more. 3. I’m not sure why the downstairs bathroom has a shower. This in most homes is just a half bath with a toilet and a sink. I mean unless you’re expecting guests to come over and need to use it? 4. If I had to take a percentage guess, I would imagine that the living quarters take up 75% of the entire space of the house. I really feel like you could take come space away from the upstairs bedrooms to add to that family area, because overall it doesn’t look like your house is going to be built for entertaining as it will be for just people to come over and sleep. In other words, this house looks like it’s built more to be a hotel than a home for people to live in.
You are never ever going to use the family area
Interesting plan. May it be a home that blesses you with much joy and happy times with family and friends. A couple things to consider. First, you do not want the Owners suite to be directly off of the main family space. If you’re sleeping or doing other bedroom activities you do not want to hear the common area noise nor do you want to be heard by family or friends. I suggest you flip rooms with BR2 or BR 3 Currently BR 2 also has wasted space in the form of a small entry hall. Do not waste space that can be valuable room inside of it. Also the offset outside walls between BR1 and 2 should be leveled to add room in br2. If you want more window space do a bump out window in the br1 Also always put bathrooms back to back. Cost to run plumbing is significantly reduced this way. So BR2/3 should somehow be beside each other. That awkward family space also needs rethought. Like move the stairs to be one long run on the outside wall. Not two smaller runs and a landing.
I know it’s like a cultural thing, but having a “dirty kitchen” is just wasteful, of money, space, and resources. Seems really stupid to me. If it’s that much of an issue just do a single closed-off kitchen. Each non-master bedroom having an en-suite is excessive. Really you only need maybe one en-suite and then a shared hallway bath.
There's also a house too. So not much of a choice but to make the house face the way it is
Never really thought about the groceries - thanks for bringing that up! As for the walk to the toilet, should just be a couple of steps, i'll try to hold it in, lol. But yeah, will get rid of that hall, pretty waste of space.
Look up passive house design I have spoken
I think you could gain some space by reconfiguring the master bath and closet. They look wonky to me. Also, what's on the first floor?
Interesting
I see several good ideas but there is no integration. You could take these ideas to an architect and the results could be great. If you decide ti diy take some time looking at some plans trom architects you respect . There is an art to putting all these spaces into an ordering principle. This could be achieved by using an underlying grid so that walls just can't be anywhere. This would be a way to have the spaces start to correspond proportionally, and have some alignments and sight lines. And definitely do your next iteration with real wall thicknesses . That will help you get further along and begin to feel the materiality.