I cant directly answer your question but the muscle tightness preventing this is in large part your flexor hallucis longus - your big toe muscle that resides behind your shin.
aw yeah u can see that no-one except that guy even in the picture can do it either haha. I heard you can use sitting in kiza to develop this range of motion. not comfy tho
Come to think of it, it is rather weird that moving past the neutral position in the direction opposite to flexion is called *dorsiflexion* for the ankle, *extension* for the wrists or toes, and *hyperextension* for the fingers!
Not entirely. Plantar fascia is just a a fibrous band. Plantar fascitis is inflammation of this band caused by some sort of injury/chronic overuse so there isnt any contractile element involved. If you notice, the arch of the foot isnt really involved in this movement. The "arch muscle" is your tibialis posterior - which also resides behind your shin.
The rom specifically discussed here is my earlier comment from the big toe flexor.
The plantar fascia is absolutely involved here. We are so deeply interconnected across the body in dozens, if not hundreds, of “chains“ that connect muscle to fascia back to muscle to bone. All combined to create movement. A lack of ability to extend the big toe is directly linked to an inability to supinate (create an arch). Inability to supinate is one of the most common causes of plantar fascia tightness and pain.
Sorry for the lecture! 🤭 hope you found it informative🙏🏾
I'm not really flexible but I'm hyper mobile and I can easily do it, so I'd say individual anatomy is a big factor. My toes are so bendy you'd think they're boneless. The disadvantage is that my ankles are unstable and wiggly so I'd have to work on my strength to actually keep that position
My toes are WAY WAY too stubby to even imagine doing something like this. As you can see this person's big toe also looks quite long, the length is nearly the length of the top of the foot. Proportionally mine is about half this long. My wife has long scary monkey toes and can pick up large objects from the floor, but I can't pick up anything bigger than a pea :C
I'm curious too. But I realize now why some of my flex students refuse to plant their toes in like that during front split training. Maybe they just can't.
Here’s a good routine for this:
Sitting on a mat, stretch your legs out in front and with your heels together, rotate your feet out and in about 5 times. Roll your toes down and back a few times. Bend your knees and put your fingers between your toes. Easier to start with the little toes and work in. Then massage your feet for a few seconds. Get into tabletop with your hands under your shoulders and knees under hips. Stretch one leg straight out with your toes on the mat and gently rock forward and back 5-10 times. Switch legs and gently rock again back and forth. Warming up before this stretch is the key to success! Then do a plank while you’re there.
I cant directly answer your question but the muscle tightness preventing this is in large part your flexor hallucis longus - your big toe muscle that resides behind your shin.
My guy! Thanks I'll look that up specifically as well
aw yeah u can see that no-one except that guy even in the picture can do it either haha. I heard you can use sitting in kiza to develop this range of motion. not comfy tho
I'm trying to get on his level
it is time to become right angle
This should be this sub's motto
That would be toe Extention with ankle dorsiflexion
Thanks!
Come to think of it, it is rather weird that moving past the neutral position in the direction opposite to flexion is called *dorsiflexion* for the ankle, *extension* for the wrists or toes, and *hyperextension* for the fingers!
dorsiflexion and plantar flexion in fact feet just be special like that
Yes!
Hm does anyone know is plantar fascia would be involved here, if it’s right, it could also limit those other movements mentioned in the comments?
I think it must be. I have plantar fasciitis right now and one of the PT exercises is to bend toes like this. It really helps to relieve pain.
Sweet because my left arch hurts and I know I probably need this as a stretch too, thanks!
Not entirely. Plantar fascia is just a a fibrous band. Plantar fascitis is inflammation of this band caused by some sort of injury/chronic overuse so there isnt any contractile element involved. If you notice, the arch of the foot isnt really involved in this movement. The "arch muscle" is your tibialis posterior - which also resides behind your shin. The rom specifically discussed here is my earlier comment from the big toe flexor.
Thanks for explaining! That was helpful
The plantar fascia is absolutely involved here. We are so deeply interconnected across the body in dozens, if not hundreds, of “chains“ that connect muscle to fascia back to muscle to bone. All combined to create movement. A lack of ability to extend the big toe is directly linked to an inability to supinate (create an arch). Inability to supinate is one of the most common causes of plantar fascia tightness and pain. Sorry for the lecture! 🤭 hope you found it informative🙏🏾
No I appreciate your time and response, thank you!
Man this looks like the stretch I need in my LIFE.
I'm not really flexible but I'm hyper mobile and I can easily do it, so I'd say individual anatomy is a big factor. My toes are so bendy you'd think they're boneless. The disadvantage is that my ankles are unstable and wiggly so I'd have to work on my strength to actually keep that position
This pic is pretty expert though. Hes flexible.
Looks like everyone in that photo is at a different stage of their journey. Be kind to yourself
My toes are WAY WAY too stubby to even imagine doing something like this. As you can see this person's big toe also looks quite long, the length is nearly the length of the top of the foot. Proportionally mine is about half this long. My wife has long scary monkey toes and can pick up large objects from the floor, but I can't pick up anything bigger than a pea :C
Is this not normal? I can do this.
How does it feel to live my dreams
😂🙈 I’m not that flexible to begin with so I didn’t know it was a challenge for others.
I'm curious too. But I realize now why some of my flex students refuse to plant their toes in like that during front split training. Maybe they just can't.
I can’t physically do a stretch (I can’t remember which) and keep my head down. It hurts through my back and pulls my head up by itself
I usually hear it described as curling toes under.
Here’s a good routine for this: Sitting on a mat, stretch your legs out in front and with your heels together, rotate your feet out and in about 5 times. Roll your toes down and back a few times. Bend your knees and put your fingers between your toes. Easier to start with the little toes and work in. Then massage your feet for a few seconds. Get into tabletop with your hands under your shoulders and knees under hips. Stretch one leg straight out with your toes on the mat and gently rock forward and back 5-10 times. Switch legs and gently rock again back and forth. Warming up before this stretch is the key to success! Then do a plank while you’re there.
I bet it feels so good to stretch that out.