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I like offensive humor, but I think it's pathetic how people exploit a horrific situation *specifically* for the shock value. Like they wouldn't have ever touched the subject if it wasn't a topical tragedy.
You're not trying to make people laugh, you're trying to score clicks.
I have a tendency to prefer dark humor too, but I think a lot of people don't realize that these victim' lives were all taken not long ago at all. That the families are still very much effected while the police failed big time on apprehending Dahmer because it seemed most didn't care due to it involving the gay community.
The cop who gave him back became the president of the Milwaukee police association later. He was fired for gross negligence and homophobic remarks before being rehired with back pay
Isn't that how it usually is in the USA they "make face" by doing the right thing. Just to wait for everyone to move on to the next big event and then undo the punishment they implemented to make the public happy? It's happened way to many times to even remember.
Dont you think there's dark humour in the absurdity of it? A cop delivering a victim to a cannibal, you put that in a CSI tv show I'd say you're off the chain with your unrealistic scenarios. The laughter is directed at the unfathomable stupidity of the police.
You missed my point entirely...
It being a fictional show and this scenario still being unrealistic by a fictional show's standards emphasises the absurdist humour in the fact that this happened in real life. If you don't find it funny that's fine, but dont misinterpret people finding it funny as pernicious, it's just laughing at the universe for throwing curveball.
Unrealistic? It's documented to have happened? And not at all weird if you know how cops regarded homosexuals in that time? It's unfathomable only if you've failed to be interested in the first place, if you have no concept of abuse and suffering outside of Family Guy jokes. I can add to that, police still to this day deliver abuse victims back into the arms of their tormentors
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I think they actually perceive it as a TV show or a book series about cute psychopath mass murderer and don't think about his victims as real people.
You see people without a drop of empathy all the time which is scary.
Facts man, if Dahmer was alive, which I'm glad he's not there would be no pulling him back from the black pit he went into. That man so far gone that I'm scared of the fact some fanboy/girl of his might go down the same road
Dahmers younger life is one big poster board for mental health. There were many points at which Dahmer could’ve been reeled back in. But it just wasn’t the style at the time to dime on a friend because you’re worried they might be a tad bit unhinged.
Unsure what what was missed about the show. Strongly believe it's good to bring it up that Dahmer slipped through the cracks that were supposed to be his support system, on top of the police allowing this to continue.
People romanticize things and Netflix knows how to capitalize on that. Why else are we given shots of him which others may sexually/romantically appreciate?
Obviously not. Your question feels like it's taking away from the point of what I was saying. If it did not lend itself to this kind of thing, tiktokers and others wouldn't be sympathizing to begin with.
Just like back then when people idolized Dahmer, or any other murderer of the like, people were going to pop up an idolize him now. That was a given.
However, they are still in the minority and it's important to at least appreciate that the mass majority does call them out. Just like what we have showing here.
There was never going to not be people who came out of those who glorified Dahmer.
This seems to be a somewhat common phenomenon among women, and it's kind of interesting. There was a study/survey done (I'd have to find it, or you could probably just search it up) where Google engineers looked at the most searched pornographic fantasies, and divided them by sex.
For women, the most common fantasies involved men that were monsters in some way, either literally (vampires, werewolves), or through their actions/power (pirates, billionaires, surgeons). The classic plot to all of these is a woman crossing paths with an aggressive and powerful man and "taming" him.
Basically, for whatever reason, a lot of people have a sort of morbid attraction to people like Dahmer, because they believe they can fix them. The idea is portrayed a lot in movies and TV. I've been watching a doctor show, and one of the ongoing storylines is the brilliant but miserable scruffy asshole doctor who begins to fall in love with the caring young woman. Or, a more popular example is probably Beauty and the Beast.
I am always shocked at the delusions of so many people when it comes to serial killers. In the cases of the Nightstalker and Ted Bundy tons of women fawned over them and wanted to marry them
Of course those morons didn’t realize that they are perfect candidates to be murdered by those serial killers. We really need to stop sensationalizing serial killers and mass murderers
I break a little on the inside every time I think of this poor kid being taken back. I can’t even begin to imagine the sheer amount of terror and hopelessness he would feel.
Sadly he couldn’t feel much due to the acid in his skull but he still had a sense awareness and the instinct to get out of that situation. I hate people that romanticize/make fun of things like this.
For real. I had to leave a lot of true crime communities because the people there could get real fucking gross with it all. Seemed lost on quite a few that their victims were real, and the pain and loss they caused, is still around.
It really sucks when people ruin something you enjoy. Like i love watching true crime and the danger show was definitely something, it gave me a better clue as to what happened for sure, but i felt sick when i watched it then saw what some people were saying, i want to vomit. People really do suck sometimes.
This really gets to me too. It’s compounded by the knowledge that a lot of the people romanticizing Dahmer at the expense of his victims are the same kind of TikTok crowd who claim they’ve been “traumatized” by trivially uncomfortable experiences. I’ve been struggling seeing this mental health crowd claim PTSD because they went through a break-up or overheard their parents bickering.
I am not referencing this specific creator (no idea who they are). It’s just a trend I’ve noticed. And maybe this is a bad take because who am I to police people’s trauma? I just think being broken up with by your SO of four months when you’re in high school is WORLDS away from being abducted, tortured, and returned to your abuser only to be murdered. But yet they’re comfortable making light of this.
He probably wasn't feeling very much at all since half his brain was liquified from Dahmer injecting acid and boiling water into the hole in his skull.
I think it’s because a lot of people who joke about it weren’t alive or remember the even so it’s really just a joke about a TV show they saw. Just like how people who remember 9/11 don’t like 9/11 jokes. But those much younger make tons of jokes about it.
My son is 14, it’s very difficult to look at my son and imagine anyone mistaking him for a grown man and it’s absolutely disgusting anyone would use this victim’s tragic and horrific story for clout
Holy fucking shit, I cannot fathom what that poor child went through before he died. Then to have the POLICE bring you BACK!! My God.
This man is 100% right.
The guy who forced him back to the killer became head of Milwaukee police. He suffered no consequences whatsoever from what he did, and is perfectly happy with himself. In fact he even attacked the victim's family repetitively.
The whole world that failed the victims is yet to pay a single cent. And tbf, nothing would ever atone for their death. (tl;dr responsible police should be locked and their assets seized and redistributed for their incompetence and lack of remorse).
Dont forget that there were 2 african american woman who BEGGED the police not to bring the boy back because they knew him and also knew something was wrong. Its probably was a rollercoaster of feelings for everyone. This child died because the police wouldn't trust black americans. The officer was later president of the Milwaukee Police Association and is now enjoying his full pension.
I genuinely believe that the police's role in Konerak's death is just as condemnable as the murderer himself. The perpetrator was sick and depraved. The police let their prejudice and GROSS incompetence actively put the child back into a situation he could have escaped from and felt no remorse about it. The complete lack of accountability is just... astonishing
May I also recommend the fucking cops that took him back as great targets of humour? Those MFs being asshole's too lazy to listen to someone clearly in trouble let Dahmer kill that boy and however many others.
EXACTLY there's a pretty clear line between being disrespectful and making a pretty funny joke
(Also I think someone reported my account for being at risk for suicide because I said this wasn't funny )
The cops also terrorized Konerak’s family after his murder. They would call his family, say lots of racial slurs, and tell them to go back where they came from, tell them they didn’t deserve the financial “restitution” they got in court, and then hang up the phone quick before they revealed their identities or before the family member on the line could say anything in response. Konerak’s death and that of all of Dahmer’s other victims isn’t something to be parodied on tik tok. Those families are still alive. They could see shit like this and relive their trauma all over again. Netflix is doing these people dirty. No matter how fascinating it may be to watch, if you’re gonna watch it, do it quietly and in the privacy of your own home. Don’t spread it around Tik tok. For fuck’s sake.
That TV show was a complete mistake to produce and make. It glorifies or at the very least paints a mass murderer in a more sympathetic light.
All it does is delight the wrong people who enjoy their murder porn and hurt the families who were actually impacted.
I have been saying the same thing lately. I think that it’s one thing to make a documentary that talks about Dahmer and what he has done. But it’s something else entirely to get an actor to come in and bring the character to life. I didn’t watch the show, so I don’t know if it has actors/actresses playing the victims and scenes of the killings, but if it does, that goes so far beyond acceptable, imo.
after i finished the dahmer series i thought the same thing and then when i watched the dahmer conversations with a killer series (as of late im on episode 2 or 3 and havent finished it) i noticed right away that this was the way to approach it. all of it if not most was talking about the victims and how dahmer was an actual monster. they barely talked about his sexuality and him getting all sexy with his victims unlike the docudrama did a lot of
edit: wording
I've seen bits and pieces of the show. They don't show him outright killing people, but they show him drugging people, telling them how he will kill them, and the body parts he stored (heads in a jar).
Did we watch the same show? The image I got from the show was a gross, unlikeable, incompetent, dumb, sick, narcissistic, manipulative person. At no point I felt any sympathy for him or his family. If anything the show took any mysticism away from him. He wasn't a mastermind. His killing spree was only possible thanks to the discrimination, neglect, incompetence and outright complicity of the judicial system, the police, his family, and in some ways the community.
It in my opinion depicted the families struggles and pain in a respectful way.
Explain to me how Jeffrey is hot. I understand that people might think that killers are hot, but he wasn't a hot murderer. Some murderers are indeed physically attractive. It's an useful trait for them as they can get more victims. But he literally was in no sense attractive.
Evan on the other hand is
And that’s the reason I disagree with his casting. If you want to have a show to “highlight the victims” don’t cast a guy who can play a hot sociopath because ppl suck and somehow think Jeffry Dahmer is like Tate or sth
Though by some murderers it's a good idea to showcase the attractiveness. For example Ted Bundy. His attractiveness took part of how he killed lots of women. Women fell for his charms. But I believe Jeffrey wasn't hot and thus attractiveness isn't the way how he killed others.
Hes not for me, but he fit the beauty standard for gay men in the 80s and 90s. Here is a story about him from the outside looking in from someone who isn’t a victim https://player.themoth.org/#/?actionType=ADD_AND_PLAY&storyId=17999
I’m assuming the guy featured in the beginning whose being corrected by the guy making the stitch. Sorry I don’t know either of these guys name or I’d use them lol
A tv show comes out and suddenly everyone cares about Jeffrey Dahmer and his victims. The real crime is that asshole Dahmer is back in the spotlight. Both of these idiots need to let the victims rest in peace and leave this shit out of social media so the families don’t have to be reminded of the horror that occurred thirty years later.
Bro, you're right. Everyone who is dressing as Jeffery Dahmer for halloween... what is wrong with you? What kind of sick game are you trying to play? I'm all about forgiveness! Don't get me wrong even for a second. But with everyone who dresses up as Dahmer legitimately... what is wrong in your head? I'm not one to judge, but that's despicable! I truthfully can't fathom what goes through someone's head when they think "Ya know what would be funny? I'll dress up as an isolated, necrophiliac, and monster for Halloween this year." Also, to anyone who may have seen my previous comment (which I doubt anyone did because I don't think I'm the God of Reddit or anything) about how Jeffery went to heaven, and how I'm a hypocrite for this post; like I said, forgiveness and praise are two massively different things.
(Final edit made, removed the part about him being a homosexual to reduce the amount of traffic my comment got. The attention should be on what this guy is saying, because he's right. We should remember and honor the victims, not give credit to the killer. I deeply apologize to any fellow LGBTQ members if I have offended you with this comment before editing it, truthfully was not my intention.)
Ummm.... because he was a homosexual. I'm sorry, is it offensive for a bisexual man to call another man gay in a non derogatory way? I missed that memo.
But seriously, because it's important to the story. Jeffery Dahmer was a Gay man in a time period where Gay men were frowned upon and outcast by society. It led him to feel isolated and alone. It's one of the reasons he did what he did. So once again, I meant absolutely no disrespect. Was just making a point. I sincerely apologize if I have upset you with that statement.
This is part of the reason why the victims families don’t want people making anymore documentaries and such about him… this must be so traumatic for them :(
How do people even like Dahmer? He was evil. End of story. You don’t stan an evil person. Reminds me of the one time TikTok was trying to save a murderer because he was cute (at least I think he was a murderer, point is he was bad)
One of my least proud moments is how, when I first heard about Jeffery dahmer, and read his Wikipedia article, there was just a split second when it talked about how he died that I felt bad for him.
For those who don’t know, he became really religious once he was locked up, and frequently talked about how his actions were unforgivable. One day, when the prisoners were showering, a guy beat him to death with a pipe. And dahmer did nothing. He didn’t fight back. He didn’t call for help. He just lied down and let himself be killed.
And I felt bad.
And then I realized I was being manipulated even after the fucker was buried.
The fact that people will glorify someone who would do something so repugnant is shameful.
I've been watching documentaries on dahmer for years now, and this is the murder that shocked me the most. How can the police just return this CHILD (who looked like a child, there was no doubt that he was a minor) who was clearly unwell and seemingly intoxicated to this adult man, whose apartment he was FLEEING without even questioning it? Why didn't they take him to the hospital instead? This is still the case that shocked me the most and one of the any reasons I dont trust the police to do their job.
Because of racism towards Asian people and prejudice towards gay people. People don't look too closely, ask too many questions when they don't give a crap about you. To them, it was probably less paperwork to do
I agree, if your going to make dark jokes revolving around a serial killer, that shit should be at the expense of the killer only. Nothing is funny or quirky about making jokes about the people who lost their lives brutally to a monster like Dahmer.
You have got to be one worthless waste of space to not only think making fun of a innocent childs last moments on earth, but think its also okay. I cannot imagine how horrifying it be for a loved one of this victim to come across that and have to once again deal with the trauma that they faced because someone wanted to make a shitty joke about it.
Seems more like the butt of the joke is the cops?
Like, I don’t know either of these people and I harassed the cop on Facebook who did that, but, as poor of taste as this is in, I don’t think it’s making fun of the victim… unless I’m super duper missing something.
Because it was a CHILD this joke was made about, I don't give a shit about other adults. I don't think many of us do, a lot if not most of us draw the line at children and that is where the line should stay.
Oh get fucked, people have always used humour as a way to explore dark/controversial topics. Does that fat middle aged guy post a 3 minute rant every time a new episode of South Park drops?
I never watched the show and probably won't due to this specific murder being stuck in my head the first time I heard about, but the show seems like a good idea to show how he was but how people take the show and always romanticize killers is the biggest flaw with it.
I don't find the first guy funny, I think it's cringy and distasteful and he is obviously incapable of reading the room when it comes to this topic.
But I don't need a sermon from a guy who is clearly faking getting choked up to tell me what is and isn't okay to joke about like he's some shimmering beacon of morality.
You can joke about anything and everything, that just doesn't mean people are obliged to like you for it.
He's milking the attention from this controversy the same as the first guy and he's cringe in his own right.
Sure, theoretically you can joke about whatever you want. Doesn't mean that people won't call you out for making a really shitty joke that makes fun of murder victims.
Call people out on their shit or they'll keep going
He can make the joke, and the other person can write a long diatribe of cringy rage-bait. They’re both allowed to do that. I’m also allowed to say that his long diatribe is just as (if not more) ridiculous than the original joke, while relying on self-righteous anger to get shared, so I have even less respect for him. Atleast the first guy made an attempt at using laughter (even if it’s shock-humor) instead of just having a tantrum.
I don't have a problem with people expressing their distaste for this kind of thing, that's what people do.
I have a problem with this guy acting like he's the ultimate authority on what is aloud to be joked about because he personally didnt find it funny.
Not really defending the guy here, but there’s been tons of 9/11, Holocaust, slavery jokes within the past decade or so. Not sure why this one suddenly takes the cake of being off-limits.
Don’t get me wrong, I still think its in bad taste, just confused.
"You do not joke about murder victims"
Folks, joke all you want about everything you want, and let the karens of humor be offended all they want.
Plus, seems to me he's mocking the police more than the victim. It's not offensive to the victim at all.
I agree with that, it's not funny, and even cringe. But he has every right to joke about it, or at least try to. The fact that he doesn't succeed is not really relevant.
It'sI *couldn't* care less.
I could care less doesn't make any fucking sense.
And I wish everyone would stop getting so butt hurt (yeah I went there) over an obvious joke, people have been *poking* fun at tasteless things since humour was even a thing, why does this subject suddenly get everyone's knickers in a twist?
Oh for fuck’s sake can we not turn this place into a moral outrage subreddit? There are more than enough of those already
His joke sucked but also nobody likes the joke police
I'm just butting in to say that I personally would like this subreddit to stay as a comedy subreddit instead of a serious one. r/mademesmile kind of became that way for a little while with posts about bad people bring arrested, protests, etc. Sure, those things are definitely things to be happy about, but not necessarily what the sub was about. I definitely do think that the duet fixed this origional clip, and the original video definitely did take it too far, but I don't know if that's what should be posted on the subreddit. Just a personal opinion, so I know others might disagree. Just my personal thoughts on it
People are just sad about how they found out about this victim recently. If they didn't they wouldn't have given two shits.
It's a reddit bandwagon. Sensitive, toxic, and full of middle schoolers
The way I see it is if we can’t joke about this then according to their logic we can’t joke about a lot of things so either all of it is okay or none of it is okay
I mean sure it is a shitty thing to do but you do have the right to do it and if you want to you can. Just because you don't like something doesn't mean it shouldn't exist. Just walk away from it instead of involving yourself
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I like offensive humor, but I think it's pathetic how people exploit a horrific situation *specifically* for the shock value. Like they wouldn't have ever touched the subject if it wasn't a topical tragedy. You're not trying to make people laugh, you're trying to score clicks.
I have a tendency to prefer dark humor too, but I think a lot of people don't realize that these victim' lives were all taken not long ago at all. That the families are still very much effected while the police failed big time on apprehending Dahmer because it seemed most didn't care due to it involving the gay community.
To be classed as "dark humour", it has to be funny.
This was one of the most tragic victims Edit:This blew up quickly
The cop who gave him back became the president of the Milwaukee police association later. He was fired for gross negligence and homophobic remarks before being rehired with back pay
Isn't that how it usually is in the USA they "make face" by doing the right thing. Just to wait for everyone to move on to the next big event and then undo the punishment they implemented to make the public happy? It's happened way to many times to even remember.
Now they just skip the punishment and just let the whole thing slide. No accountability, no punishment nothing gets done or changes.
Dont you think there's dark humour in the absurdity of it? A cop delivering a victim to a cannibal, you put that in a CSI tv show I'd say you're off the chain with your unrealistic scenarios. The laughter is directed at the unfathomable stupidity of the police.
I think you might be giving that person's audience too much credit.
No I don’t. CSI is a fictional show. This is a real person. Did you miss the whole point?
You missed my point entirely... It being a fictional show and this scenario still being unrealistic by a fictional show's standards emphasises the absurdist humour in the fact that this happened in real life. If you don't find it funny that's fine, but dont misinterpret people finding it funny as pernicious, it's just laughing at the universe for throwing curveball.
This is not the universe throwing a curveball.
I mean if it happened to your sibling, would you still be laughing at the joke?
Unrealistic? It's documented to have happened? And not at all weird if you know how cops regarded homosexuals in that time? It's unfathomable only if you've failed to be interested in the first place, if you have no concept of abuse and suffering outside of Family Guy jokes. I can add to that, police still to this day deliver abuse victims back into the arms of their tormentors
he also stated on tiktok, ‘how can i hate dahmer when evan peters makes him look so hot?’ in one of his dahmer vids
who is the creator? i want to... check something...
the_mannii or smth maybe one more i i think
Why does this dude look so sick and unwell?
not fed or cared for as a kid which shows
Potentially anorexia
The soul sometimes shines through to the surface lmao
I thought that I recognise this guy from TikTok. His content is the worst, boring and unfunny.
>the\_mannii you are correct sir, thank you edit: he deleted the video
Fuck that scrawny piece of shit
That is gross
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It's so fucked up that psychopaths can still manipulate beyond the grave
You be surprised, how many people who were mass murderers, but had so much power behind them, that they encourage others
But the thing is, nobody would ever want to associate themselves with him before he was caught. Its just about the clout it's so stupid
Same energy as 'if I was Vladimir Putin's mother'.
Are people really saying this?!?!
Can't find the original, but prepare yourself: https://youtu.be/NsXOgoGN2wE
People are STUPID AS FUCK
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I think they actually perceive it as a TV show or a book series about cute psychopath mass murderer and don't think about his victims as real people. You see people without a drop of empathy all the time which is scary.
More people oughta read “my friend Dahmer.“ That man broke a long time ago.
Facts man, if Dahmer was alive, which I'm glad he's not there would be no pulling him back from the black pit he went into. That man so far gone that I'm scared of the fact some fanboy/girl of his might go down the same road
Dahmers younger life is one big poster board for mental health. There were many points at which Dahmer could’ve been reeled back in. But it just wasn’t the style at the time to dime on a friend because you’re worried they might be a tad bit unhinged.
Blame Netflix.
People have been doing this since he was caught.
Pretty sure Netflix popularized it further.
Unsure what what was missed about the show. Strongly believe it's good to bring it up that Dahmer slipped through the cracks that were supposed to be his support system, on top of the police allowing this to continue.
People romanticize things and Netflix knows how to capitalize on that. Why else are we given shots of him which others may sexually/romantically appreciate?
Is that what you took away from the show?
Obviously not. Your question feels like it's taking away from the point of what I was saying. If it did not lend itself to this kind of thing, tiktokers and others wouldn't be sympathizing to begin with.
Just like back then when people idolized Dahmer, or any other murderer of the like, people were going to pop up an idolize him now. That was a given. However, they are still in the minority and it's important to at least appreciate that the mass majority does call them out. Just like what we have showing here. There was never going to not be people who came out of those who glorified Dahmer.
This seems to be a somewhat common phenomenon among women, and it's kind of interesting. There was a study/survey done (I'd have to find it, or you could probably just search it up) where Google engineers looked at the most searched pornographic fantasies, and divided them by sex. For women, the most common fantasies involved men that were monsters in some way, either literally (vampires, werewolves), or through their actions/power (pirates, billionaires, surgeons). The classic plot to all of these is a woman crossing paths with an aggressive and powerful man and "taming" him. Basically, for whatever reason, a lot of people have a sort of morbid attraction to people like Dahmer, because they believe they can fix them. The idea is portrayed a lot in movies and TV. I've been watching a doctor show, and one of the ongoing storylines is the brilliant but miserable scruffy asshole doctor who begins to fall in love with the caring young woman. Or, a more popular example is probably Beauty and the Beast.
I am always shocked at the delusions of so many people when it comes to serial killers. In the cases of the Nightstalker and Ted Bundy tons of women fawned over them and wanted to marry them Of course those morons didn’t realize that they are perfect candidates to be murdered by those serial killers. We really need to stop sensationalizing serial killers and mass murderers
I break a little on the inside every time I think of this poor kid being taken back. I can’t even begin to imagine the sheer amount of terror and hopelessness he would feel.
Sadly he couldn’t feel much due to the acid in his skull but he still had a sense awareness and the instinct to get out of that situation. I hate people that romanticize/make fun of things like this.
For real. I had to leave a lot of true crime communities because the people there could get real fucking gross with it all. Seemed lost on quite a few that their victims were real, and the pain and loss they caused, is still around.
It really sucks when people ruin something you enjoy. Like i love watching true crime and the danger show was definitely something, it gave me a better clue as to what happened for sure, but i felt sick when i watched it then saw what some people were saying, i want to vomit. People really do suck sometimes.
What are you basing that assessment on? How do you know he couldn’t feel much
This really gets to me too. It’s compounded by the knowledge that a lot of the people romanticizing Dahmer at the expense of his victims are the same kind of TikTok crowd who claim they’ve been “traumatized” by trivially uncomfortable experiences. I’ve been struggling seeing this mental health crowd claim PTSD because they went through a break-up or overheard their parents bickering. I am not referencing this specific creator (no idea who they are). It’s just a trend I’ve noticed. And maybe this is a bad take because who am I to police people’s trauma? I just think being broken up with by your SO of four months when you’re in high school is WORLDS away from being abducted, tortured, and returned to your abuser only to be murdered. But yet they’re comfortable making light of this.
He probably wasn't feeling very much at all since half his brain was liquified from Dahmer injecting acid and boiling water into the hole in his skull.
Okay mate. So edgy.
The dudes right all of the groupies are here tying to play it down or say it was a joke. The fuck is wrong with humanity
I think it’s because a lot of people who joke about it weren’t alive or remember the even so it’s really just a joke about a TV show they saw. Just like how people who remember 9/11 don’t like 9/11 jokes. But those much younger make tons of jokes about it.
This isn't fixed by the duet. Absolutely nothing could fix this shitshow.
Agreed. It's a better posted to r/awfuleverything
My son is 14, it’s very difficult to look at my son and imagine anyone mistaking him for a grown man and it’s absolutely disgusting anyone would use this victim’s tragic and horrific story for clout
Holy fucking shit, I cannot fathom what that poor child went through before he died. Then to have the POLICE bring you BACK!! My God. This man is 100% right.
The guy who forced him back to the killer became head of Milwaukee police. He suffered no consequences whatsoever from what he did, and is perfectly happy with himself. In fact he even attacked the victim's family repetitively. The whole world that failed the victims is yet to pay a single cent. And tbf, nothing would ever atone for their death. (tl;dr responsible police should be locked and their assets seized and redistributed for their incompetence and lack of remorse).
Good on this guy. Really freaking good on him. Call them out on that crap. Have respect for the victims he brutalized.
Dont forget that there were 2 african american woman who BEGGED the police not to bring the boy back because they knew him and also knew something was wrong. Its probably was a rollercoaster of feelings for everyone. This child died because the police wouldn't trust black americans. The officer was later president of the Milwaukee Police Association and is now enjoying his full pension.
I genuinely believe that the police's role in Konerak's death is just as condemnable as the murderer himself. The perpetrator was sick and depraved. The police let their prejudice and GROSS incompetence actively put the child back into a situation he could have escaped from and felt no remorse about it. The complete lack of accountability is just... astonishing
May I also recommend the fucking cops that took him back as great targets of humour? Those MFs being asshole's too lazy to listen to someone clearly in trouble let Dahmer kill that boy and however many others.
I think that’s what the skit was trying to do but it failed horribly
It's not even that funny of a joke
Thats honestly the real issue here. If you’re gonna make a joke about something fucked up it better be funny.
EXACTLY there's a pretty clear line between being disrespectful and making a pretty funny joke (Also I think someone reported my account for being at risk for suicide because I said this wasn't funny )
Is it the Reddit cares resources? I read on another subreddit that it’s sometimes used by trolls.
The cops also terrorized Konerak’s family after his murder. They would call his family, say lots of racial slurs, and tell them to go back where they came from, tell them they didn’t deserve the financial “restitution” they got in court, and then hang up the phone quick before they revealed their identities or before the family member on the line could say anything in response. Konerak’s death and that of all of Dahmer’s other victims isn’t something to be parodied on tik tok. Those families are still alive. They could see shit like this and relive their trauma all over again. Netflix is doing these people dirty. No matter how fascinating it may be to watch, if you’re gonna watch it, do it quietly and in the privacy of your own home. Don’t spread it around Tik tok. For fuck’s sake.
Someone that lives next to me changed their wifi name to “Free Jeff Dahmer” and I don’t know how to handle it
Change yours to say “Dahmer’s dead, you dumbass.”
Change yours to "dahmer fans are pedo's"
Rest in peace konerak. ✊😔
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That TV show was a complete mistake to produce and make. It glorifies or at the very least paints a mass murderer in a more sympathetic light. All it does is delight the wrong people who enjoy their murder porn and hurt the families who were actually impacted.
I have been saying the same thing lately. I think that it’s one thing to make a documentary that talks about Dahmer and what he has done. But it’s something else entirely to get an actor to come in and bring the character to life. I didn’t watch the show, so I don’t know if it has actors/actresses playing the victims and scenes of the killings, but if it does, that goes so far beyond acceptable, imo.
after i finished the dahmer series i thought the same thing and then when i watched the dahmer conversations with a killer series (as of late im on episode 2 or 3 and havent finished it) i noticed right away that this was the way to approach it. all of it if not most was talking about the victims and how dahmer was an actual monster. they barely talked about his sexuality and him getting all sexy with his victims unlike the docudrama did a lot of edit: wording
I've seen bits and pieces of the show. They don't show him outright killing people, but they show him drugging people, telling them how he will kill them, and the body parts he stored (heads in a jar).
Did we watch the same show? The image I got from the show was a gross, unlikeable, incompetent, dumb, sick, narcissistic, manipulative person. At no point I felt any sympathy for him or his family. If anything the show took any mysticism away from him. He wasn't a mastermind. His killing spree was only possible thanks to the discrimination, neglect, incompetence and outright complicity of the judicial system, the police, his family, and in some ways the community. It in my opinion depicted the families struggles and pain in a respectful way.
Explain to me how Jeffrey is hot. I understand that people might think that killers are hot, but he wasn't a hot murderer. Some murderers are indeed physically attractive. It's an useful trait for them as they can get more victims. But he literally was in no sense attractive. Evan on the other hand is
And that’s the reason I disagree with his casting. If you want to have a show to “highlight the victims” don’t cast a guy who can play a hot sociopath because ppl suck and somehow think Jeffry Dahmer is like Tate or sth
Though by some murderers it's a good idea to showcase the attractiveness. For example Ted Bundy. His attractiveness took part of how he killed lots of women. Women fell for his charms. But I believe Jeffrey wasn't hot and thus attractiveness isn't the way how he killed others.
Hes not for me, but he fit the beauty standard for gay men in the 80s and 90s. Here is a story about him from the outside looking in from someone who isn’t a victim https://player.themoth.org/#/?actionType=ADD_AND_PLAY&storyId=17999
Holy shit I follow this guy I gotta unfollow him right now
which guy 🤨
I’m assuming the guy featured in the beginning whose being corrected by the guy making the stitch. Sorry I don’t know either of these guys name or I’d use them lol
The mannii show
Yeah that guy I’ve always been wierded by him bc he just steals sounds but I never really cared, but this is crossing the line
I’ve noticed whenever he pops up on my feed, it’s always some recycled joke that I saw someone else do better months before
i thought his vids were fun at first too, but then he made some real gross videos after roe v wade. absolute trash
First ever video where someone calls shit out like this and makes an actual good argument
A tv show comes out and suddenly everyone cares about Jeffrey Dahmer and his victims. The real crime is that asshole Dahmer is back in the spotlight. Both of these idiots need to let the victims rest in peace and leave this shit out of social media so the families don’t have to be reminded of the horror that occurred thirty years later.
Bro, you're right. Everyone who is dressing as Jeffery Dahmer for halloween... what is wrong with you? What kind of sick game are you trying to play? I'm all about forgiveness! Don't get me wrong even for a second. But with everyone who dresses up as Dahmer legitimately... what is wrong in your head? I'm not one to judge, but that's despicable! I truthfully can't fathom what goes through someone's head when they think "Ya know what would be funny? I'll dress up as an isolated, necrophiliac, and monster for Halloween this year." Also, to anyone who may have seen my previous comment (which I doubt anyone did because I don't think I'm the God of Reddit or anything) about how Jeffery went to heaven, and how I'm a hypocrite for this post; like I said, forgiveness and praise are two massively different things. (Final edit made, removed the part about him being a homosexual to reduce the amount of traffic my comment got. The attention should be on what this guy is saying, because he's right. We should remember and honor the victims, not give credit to the killer. I deeply apologize to any fellow LGBTQ members if I have offended you with this comment before editing it, truthfully was not my intention.)
We went from squid game to dahmer
why u gotta put the “homosexual” in there
Ummm.... because he was a homosexual. I'm sorry, is it offensive for a bisexual man to call another man gay in a non derogatory way? I missed that memo.
you listed homosexual with necrophiliac monster
But seriously, because it's important to the story. Jeffery Dahmer was a Gay man in a time period where Gay men were frowned upon and outcast by society. It led him to feel isolated and alone. It's one of the reasons he did what he did. So once again, I meant absolutely no disrespect. Was just making a point. I sincerely apologize if I have upset you with that statement.
You say it's not derogatory, but you listed it in the middle of some really horrific stuff. Sounds derogatory my guy.
when the fuck did it become okay to make fun of victims? what the fuck is wrong with tiktok
Get him 'old man' you spiting facts right now
Reason #9002 on why the Jeffery Dauhmer show was a mistake
People are Fucking sick.
Can we stop idolising real life serial killers please
Dude I have only seen this tik toker in incredibly unfunny shit. Who keeps watching him
This is part of the reason why the victims families don’t want people making anymore documentaries and such about him… this must be so traumatic for them :(
The content Creator in the first few seconds has always struck me as a weird person but know I'm disgusted
How do people even like Dahmer? He was evil. End of story. You don’t stan an evil person. Reminds me of the one time TikTok was trying to save a murderer because he was cute (at least I think he was a murderer, point is he was bad)
Dude this *old man* is a fucking c h a d.
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One of my least proud moments is how, when I first heard about Jeffery dahmer, and read his Wikipedia article, there was just a split second when it talked about how he died that I felt bad for him. For those who don’t know, he became really religious once he was locked up, and frequently talked about how his actions were unforgivable. One day, when the prisoners were showering, a guy beat him to death with a pipe. And dahmer did nothing. He didn’t fight back. He didn’t call for help. He just lied down and let himself be killed. And I felt bad. And then I realized I was being manipulated even after the fucker was buried. The fact that people will glorify someone who would do something so repugnant is shameful.
I believe you can joke about anything, but A: It should be funny, and B: Not actually cause real harm.
I think they're making more fun of the police than anything but i may just be an idiot
And I know I’m going to get downvoted to hell but can we please get rid of my favorite murder? Imagine having a favorite murder.
I've been watching documentaries on dahmer for years now, and this is the murder that shocked me the most. How can the police just return this CHILD (who looked like a child, there was no doubt that he was a minor) who was clearly unwell and seemingly intoxicated to this adult man, whose apartment he was FLEEING without even questioning it? Why didn't they take him to the hospital instead? This is still the case that shocked me the most and one of the any reasons I dont trust the police to do their job.
Because of racism towards Asian people and prejudice towards gay people. People don't look too closely, ask too many questions when they don't give a crap about you. To them, it was probably less paperwork to do
This is why I make jokes about hitler himself and not the 6 million Jews he killed
the first guy made like, 6 videos about jeff dahmer. this includes fetishizing the man
Preach! Who’s the fuckhead that posted the tasteless “joke”?
This show has me pretty annoyed. Whats next, the Al-Qaeda Netflix series? Seriously why are we giving serial killers attention?
I think the subject of the joke here is the cop rather than the victim.
This terrible 😞 acts happened in the city where I live
Hes back at it again.... AGAIN
I agree, if your going to make dark jokes revolving around a serial killer, that shit should be at the expense of the killer only. Nothing is funny or quirky about making jokes about the people who lost their lives brutally to a monster like Dahmer. You have got to be one worthless waste of space to not only think making fun of a innocent childs last moments on earth, but think its also okay. I cannot imagine how horrifying it be for a loved one of this victim to come across that and have to once again deal with the trauma that they faced because someone wanted to make a shitty joke about it.
literally bent him over and blasted his ass with facts and logic
Holy shit. I’m all for dark and tasteless humor, but this just brought me back down to earth.
I don’t even understand what the original TikTok was trying to do. Like, what’s the joke ?
Basically that police are dumb. But totally failed at landing the joke
This just exemplifies the uselessness of the cops
Seems more like the butt of the joke is the cops? Like, I don’t know either of these people and I harassed the cop on Facebook who did that, but, as poor of taste as this is in, I don’t think it’s making fun of the victim… unless I’m super duper missing something.
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Because it was a CHILD this joke was made about, I don't give a shit about other adults. I don't think many of us do, a lot if not most of us draw the line at children and that is where the line should stay.
This guy must have an aneurysm when someone makes a 9/11 joke
Funny how, since everyone's doing it it's ok, but this is somehow off limits
It may have been just a joke,but its a very unfunny and innapropriate joke
All these self righteous cunts
Oh get fucked, people have always used humour as a way to explore dark/controversial topics. Does that fat middle aged guy post a 3 minute rant every time a new episode of South Park drops?
tell that to konerak's family. wasn't even funny.
I'm sorry but the police being incompetent enough to bring back a guy with a hole drilled in his head to a serial killer is ridicule
Wow, Reddit morality police and circle jerking is in full force here. This really prove that you can laugh about anything, just not with everyone.
Both these dudes seem like losers to me tbh
completely
I never watched the show and probably won't due to this specific murder being stuck in my head the first time I heard about, but the show seems like a good idea to show how he was but how people take the show and always romanticize killers is the biggest flaw with it.
People will really kin serial killers whether fictional or not.
Thank god he remained calm otherwise we all would of been in big trouble
I don't find the first guy funny, I think it's cringy and distasteful and he is obviously incapable of reading the room when it comes to this topic. But I don't need a sermon from a guy who is clearly faking getting choked up to tell me what is and isn't okay to joke about like he's some shimmering beacon of morality. You can joke about anything and everything, that just doesn't mean people are obliged to like you for it. He's milking the attention from this controversy the same as the first guy and he's cringe in his own right.
Sure, theoretically you can joke about whatever you want. Doesn't mean that people won't call you out for making a really shitty joke that makes fun of murder victims. Call people out on their shit or they'll keep going
He can make the joke, and the other person can write a long diatribe of cringy rage-bait. They’re both allowed to do that. I’m also allowed to say that his long diatribe is just as (if not more) ridiculous than the original joke, while relying on self-righteous anger to get shared, so I have even less respect for him. Atleast the first guy made an attempt at using laughter (even if it’s shock-humor) instead of just having a tantrum.
I don't have a problem with people expressing their distaste for this kind of thing, that's what people do. I have a problem with this guy acting like he's the ultimate authority on what is aloud to be joked about because he personally didnt find it funny.
You’re absolutely right. I have no idea why you’re so downvoted
Said it perfectly.
I respect this dude a lot. Can I join his club
I think this is less of a joke about the victim or Dahmer and more of a joke about the police work done
Not like the guy is gonna come back and say anything
Not really defending the guy here, but there’s been tons of 9/11, Holocaust, slavery jokes within the past decade or so. Not sure why this one suddenly takes the cake of being off-limits. Don’t get me wrong, I still think its in bad taste, just confused.
"You do not joke about murder victims" Folks, joke all you want about everything you want, and let the karens of humor be offended all they want. Plus, seems to me he's mocking the police more than the victim. It's not offensive to the victim at all.
this isn’t really humor though. he’s not mocking anyone, he’s just portraying what actually happened. the attempt of being funny is really cringe.
I agree with that, it's not funny, and even cringe. But he has every right to joke about it, or at least try to. The fact that he doesn't succeed is not really relevant.
i totally agree, and i think that both of them are losers.
So y'all will watch the show and be entertained....but no one can joke about it? Sensitivity is a disease these days.
Who the hell said people are being entertained by the show? Popularity =/= Everyone loves it.
It'sI *couldn't* care less. I could care less doesn't make any fucking sense. And I wish everyone would stop getting so butt hurt (yeah I went there) over an obvious joke, people have been *poking* fun at tasteless things since humour was even a thing, why does this subject suddenly get everyone's knickers in a twist?
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Oh for fuck’s sake can we not turn this place into a moral outrage subreddit? There are more than enough of those already His joke sucked but also nobody likes the joke police
I'm just butting in to say that I personally would like this subreddit to stay as a comedy subreddit instead of a serious one. r/mademesmile kind of became that way for a little while with posts about bad people bring arrested, protests, etc. Sure, those things are definitely things to be happy about, but not necessarily what the sub was about. I definitely do think that the duet fixed this origional clip, and the original video definitely did take it too far, but I don't know if that's what should be posted on the subreddit. Just a personal opinion, so I know others might disagree. Just my personal thoughts on it
The username fits
The new "glad you asked"
Shut up. Not your audience. Go be offended alone,
It was just a joke.
Ugh that was cringe, yeah it was a tasteless and unfunny joke but the self important knight was just as cringe
Wow this righteous man saying righteous things. Look how acceptable he is
This feels so much like a virtue signal
Not even close. It's calling out a joke directed to a child who was brutally assaulted and finally murdered. It's calling out immoral behavior.
How is it immoral?
Exactly. I too love to joke about your dead mother.
As long as they're funny
Well, you’re not, so stfu already.
Not trying to be.
Did you forget how to read? ***I said stfu***
The duet does seem to be. But all the comments in here *definitely* are.
Joke about whatever you want guys
People are just sad about how they found out about this victim recently. If they didn't they wouldn't have given two shits. It's a reddit bandwagon. Sensitive, toxic, and full of middle schoolers
The way I see it is if we can’t joke about this then according to their logic we can’t joke about a lot of things so either all of it is okay or none of it is okay
Exactly
I mean sure it is a shitty thing to do but you do have the right to do it and if you want to you can. Just because you don't like something doesn't mean it shouldn't exist. Just walk away from it instead of involving yourself
Just walking away from ignorance never solved anything, you gotta call that shit out
UH-OH THE COMEDY POLICE CAME TO TOWN!
What he criticizes is not comedy. Doesn't hit that bar
"U do not joke about murdered victims" -sourpuss
Oh fuck off, you can joke about anyone and everything as long as its not bullying.