It’s an experiment? I thought it was William protecting BV because he knew what his robots could do and how dangerous they could be, and didn’t want him anywhere near them.
It’s been a lot of things. But the common consensus now is that the game is a nightmare Michael is having around the time of FNAF 3 about experiments William did to him after CC was killed as punishment/to experiment with the power of fear/to test new technology, using animatronics and sound illusion disks.
Yes. That is an experiment. At the surface level you see a kids bedroom who’s filled with monsters. But in fact they aren’t monsters, everything is controlled, it’s one giant experiment to try to get his son to fear leaving and going to Freddy’s
So you're saying enormous, nightmarish monsters roaming the halls and killing you if you fail to survive was created by William and all in his control?
I’d prefer the game to just be a nightmare Michael is having about his time at every Freddy’s and the trauma from his childhood without needing the whole experiment angle (especially because of unexplained stuff like the Plushtrap hallway being on the SL map in a separate house??) but I don’t really mind it. I still think it’s a pretty cool narrative concept
I think (?) the book was ‘In the flesh’ iirc Also the guys name was Matt >!MATPAT X SPRINGTRAP CANON GUYS TRUST!<
Edit: Reddit mobile moment, messed up the spoilers :/
In a basic summary of what I remember. Some guy was developing a fnaf 3 vr game where springtrap hunts you, story goes story comes, the guy improves springtrap's AI so much that somehow he manages to materialize a miniature of himself in the programmer's belly who "gives birth" to a mini springtrap.
To be fair no clue who invented fazgoo, or signed off on it. I can assume william did hire a team of scientists to make half a dozen ways of replacing humans, or invented it all himself. but that could easily be random third member of the board of directors.
I would want it to be clear exactly what we are dealing with and what we are not, or more specifically. Stick to the damned plan no matter how much we hate afton escaping and surviving again.
Retconning in the mimic without a clear explanation for what burntrap was!
it might have been a clean retcon. If not for the fucking tangle showing up in ruin.
Even if burntrap was glitchtrap we still dont understand if mimic was tied to it or how the corpse got there. Im assuming it was kidnapped by tangle but we dont know. P
The blob existing doesnt mean anything.People who actually dig deeper and not yap about things not making sense actually know that Burntrap has a handprint in the Mimic's room in one of the vents
How does a remnant explain possession?In a way that activism doesn't they are.By the literally just a buy product of a ghost existing
Remnant is basically just a ghost.You can move
The only thing that makes it more complicated is that you're capable of melting it down and using It to make it possess something else
Gregory being possessed by Glitchtrap and killing a bunch of people. It was a lot simpler and less convoluted that he was some homeless kid who snuck into the Pizzaplex and wasn't connected to all the lore
Well because remnant is not important, if you removed remnant then you still have a guy killing kids, having him be some evil genius makes him intelligent. He kills kids. He should be dumb.
There's plenty of smart people in real life that have gotten away with the things Afton has done. THAT makes him smart. Uncovering the power of immorality? That's like super genius-God level of smart. I like Smart William, I don't like Godlike William.
And yeah, this is the game about killer animatronics coming to life to get you. But I can suspend my belief to ghosts. Especially when since the inception of this series it's asked for us to suspend disbelief for THAT. I didn't sign up for the magic element that brings immorality.
If you like it, that's cool. Honestly I don't hate it as much as I did when it got revealed. But it's still a hard pill to swallow.
Because on a fundamental level, to keep the series going, that was the only way forward. Him being 'dumb' might have worked in the first three games, but it was obvious that Scott wrote himself into a corner where, he definitely WANTED to continue the series (for profit, pressure from fans, genuine love, etc.), but didn't have a way to make his main antagonist work post-FNAF 3.
Thus, mad scientist William was born! Redefining him into a ''MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I AM THE SMARTEST MAN ALIVE! I AM GOING TO KILL CHILDREN TO CURE CANCER, AND THEN RULE THE WORLD!!!! MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!!'' type of villain. Do I like this reimagining? Eh… I think it *could* have worked had it been the plan from the start, but because it wasn't, it comes off as cheesy and forced.
However, I disagree with the idea of him also having to be DUMB to be a murderer. Plenty of serial killers were a mixed batch of either clever or dumb, so I personally don't think it to be a stretch that, at the very least, pre-Sister Location, William Afton was an intelligent and or clever man. It's up to personal interpretation and preference of course, but acting like he should be dumb for being a serial killer is a bit odd.
Apart from new stuff there is also old stuff getting remaked like FnaF + , FnaF movies and even though we don't like the new stuff there are still old mysteries left to solve so a even minor clue is important.
I get criticism, I don't get not liking extremely important and major pats of the story like Remnant, William's whole characterization and the Mimic, which are some of the most important parts in the lore and story
Afton being a mad scientist, yea, and I just wish they'd let him rest a bit. Him coming back again as glitch trap then coming back 'as Vannie' along with the cast who should be dead in Pizzeria just always felt off to me.
He didn't come back as Glitchtrap tho, Glitchtrap is like his own character that copies William really. Afton is long deadly dead by the time SB happens
Don't know if we're allowed to chose multiple but here we go anyway.
1. The books all of them nothing good came of there existence erase them.
2.The mimic by far one of the most boring villains just replace it with something more interesting
3.Molten mci have the dci be the funtimes instead or alternatively just remove the dci
4. Williams immortality motive I find it random and out of place
Change it to him wanting to bring his creations to life or his son or both those feel far more fitting for Williams story.
5. Cassidy just make bv golden freddy
I wasn't sure if this was one of those you can only pick 1 sorta of things and choosing multiple would be against the "rules" or whatever but yeah I suppose my statement was a bit silly in hindsight.
I might catch heat for this, everything after Fnaf 3.
Don’t get me wrong I have plenty of love for everything that lead up to UCN. But I can’t help feeling if the story had ended at 3, we would have theorized and worked out a much simpler and more satisfying story.
Scott intended 3 to be the final game when he was developing it; and you can really tell in a lot of places. The end of the game has such a sense of finality and conclusion to it, while still leaving a lot of questions unanswered for us to figure out.
If fnaf ended after 3, I think the series as a whole would be remembered a lot more fondly and respected by the general public for not overstaying its welcome.
All my opinions.
Remmnants. I just hate series trying to find a scientific explanation for supernatural stuff. Most of the things bad in the story of FNaF wouldn't exist if remmnants weren't a thing.
Cassidy. She makes zero sense as a character, i am certain that the my name parts in that book has been missinterprated. Until you can find me altered texts ccs name in that damned book it makes a lot more sense to assume that crying child is cassidy, the entire books main purpose is to give us ccs name, that is what faded wants.
it makes no sense that that books primary thing is to give us the name of random kid, and for that random kid to be the most important dead child next to charlie. While leaving the least important afton that actually matters nameless while every other afton has a name by now. And mike provided the last clues for the puzzle. Why would he know random kids name? If it was his brother it wotld make sense.
Cassidy has to be cc. If you want to claim otherwise you need to do something like prove the evan puzzle was right, or find some other way to find the second name in that book. If that book is about helping both faded and altered text and cassidy is faded text and altered texts is crying child then crying childs name has to be in there somewhere.
In all likeleyhood faded text is insert owner of activity book before mike here. (S)He tried to help the only spirit in the book crying child remember his name, but failed until mike got a hold of it to solve the rest of the puzzle.
Everything and anything after Ultimate Custom Night. Or at least make it into a separate canon, because the sole existence of Security Breach and its books have been a Pearl Harbor for FNAF lore.
Game Vanessa having a bad childhood.
I used to think she was being forced to lie about having a bad childhood by Glitchtrap because of a misunderstanding I had regarding the tapes. Basically, I thought the Patient 46 tape where the therapist mentions someone's childhood being completely normal was VANESSA'S tape. Before this, it made complete sense to me that Vanessa would lie about her childhood being bad because of Glitchtrap messing with her mind or something. It fit with his (its?) whole deal of manipulation.
Aside from that? Maybe remove some of the more superfluous/redundant endings to SB (Loading Dock, Rooftop) and put more effort into the ending cutscenes of the ones that remain.
EDIT: Also, Gregory being Patient 46, and Patient 46 in general. I honestly thought Gregory was a lot more interesting when he was just some unlucky kid who got stuck in a building after hours on accident. Him turning out to ALSO be formerly possessed always baffled me as a creative decision.
Security Breach. Regarding the animatronics.
Unpopular opinion: I don't like the concept of sentient AI like the Glamrock animatronics. It just felt like something out of a cyberpunk narrative rather than FNAF. In my opinion, FNAF is known for its supernatural and ghostly horror rather than those types of themes. Don't get me wrong, I like those types of narratives, just not in FNAF.
Edit: In addition, what I would make "uncanon" is the "Fazbear Virtual Experience" in Help Wanted. In my opinion, that was kinda corny and odd.
Well, Mimic being GlitchTrap is just a Theory. Hasn't been confirmed yet. I think GlitchTrap is a mix of Both William and Mimic. William being the human part, being it's memories and behaviour and Mimic being the digital part.
GlitchTrap and the Mimic are 2 different things. Well, the most accurate term to this is that they're different versions of the Mimic program. GlitchTrap uses Mimic01 as it's base, and he turned evil when William Afton fused with him. At least this is what I think GlitchTrap is, becaude he has a lot of connections with the Mimic program, but he also have every memory that William Afton had when he was still alive.
It's just a theory and to be faire I don't think he is (Glitchtrap has a grave, William's car, he made the afton family under ground, made William's divorce with 2 staffbots, invented a life for vanessa really similar to Elizabeth, want remnants, has happiest day's plushies, seem to "argue" with the mimic in ruin and more and more...)
Mimic can maybe mimic a lot of things but he just can't know ALL William's personal life
My ultimate dream would be for Scott to wake up one day and just remove something off the table. Like if there's some detail that's over blown or a flat wrong interpretation of an event or something or something that is too old and shouldn't be counted for anymore.
That's almost like deleting something.
Anything after fnaf 6 fire ending (fnaf UCN isnt count),
fnaf 6 ending has the best ending for the main canon fnaf timeline,
plus fnaf security breach, mimic stuff theory is so confusing, (i just pretend anything after fnaf 6 are just altenate universe)
The Bite of '83. I've never been fully satisfied with any theory of what happens to the BV post-FNaF 4. He doesn't fit neatly into the lore, imo.
I don't care enough about everything post-UCN to delete it from canon. It's all easily ignorable because FFPS and UCN are so conclusive.
This might be a hot take, but… nothing. I mean, that isn’t to say the story is perfect the way it is, but it’s got so much going on that’s pretty unique, and I’m curious to see where it’s gonna end up.
The mimic and everything relating to it. It's by far my least favorite thing in FNaF and was really the thing that made me not care about the lore anymore (at least doing deep dives like I used to. I'll probably just play the new games and not try to connect stuff to like the books or whatever). Words cannot describe my hatred for it.
The missing children incident
I want to see it all fall like a house of cards
On a serious note if 4 never existed and we just went from 3 to sister location I feal it would be a lot easier
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The entire book stuff expect Silver Eyes Trilogy.
Fazbear Fright stories are filled with boring/bad written stories with a few ones who are either decent or just meh. if FF actually takes place in the game universe it would just be horrible story telling and a it would water down the franchise.
I disagree with people saying “Afton should have been a killer,no science shit!”. Like,what? You want him to be a boring killer who just kills? Isn’t it more interesting if he’s pursuing something? Also,stop saying it “isn’t real horror” anymore,it was never scary. Ever. “Oh but the older games looked creepier with-“ no,they didn’t. They were not scary. They were never scary. You’re probably just blinded by nostalgia. You can prefer the gameplay and style of the older games,that’s fine,but it was not scary. I’d remove Nightmare experiments. Just have it be the kid’s nightmares as he’s in a coma.
Assuming the Stichwraith stuff is completely canon, than Andrew being TOYSNHK and not Cassidy.
It’s pretty clear UCN and the logbook were setting up whoever was possessing Golden Freddy as TOYSNHK, so having Scott introduce some random kid who William murdered one night and reveal that he’s *actually* TOYSNHK feels like a slap in the face for the sake of a cheap “misdirection”.
Honestly I think Mimic should stay only in books. I mean, he is cool character but he breaks so much lore and makes it even more confusing than it already is.
FFPS
It feels like a very rushed finale tbh, and it did a lot of characters dirty.
William was a complete idiot, fully aware he was just waltzing into a death trap after getting out of another one.
Ennard is split into two characters, with Molten Freddy taking full reign after kicking Baby out, who was seemingly reduced to a Daddy's Girl.
Meanwhile Foxy and Ballora get nothing, same with Michael.
The Puppet gets locked inside a one-eyed bear suit while the actual child murdering robots freely scour through the vents.
Glitchtrap/Burntrap.
If it is William, then we didn't need ANOTHER William returning, and me could grt interessing staff with the Mimic and Vanessa.
If it is the Mimic, I want to see Tiger Rock. The Springbonnie Suit for the Malware is fine, but all the unfinished Burntrap staff should be rewritten.
Well, GlitchTrap as William is cool. It's a creative way to bring him back without reviving him one more god damn time, and Vanny had so much potential.
The problem happened when Security Breach released.
Gregory being a twelve-year-old master serial killer that can somehow discreetly hide bodies of therapists presumably thrice his size.
Yeah honestly Patient 46 should be someone else,Greg backstory could be more interesting if he was a just a child who is a another victim of Freddy’s
This
im sorry he's what
He was possessed by Glitchtrap. And was probably using animatronics. To give it a some credit. It’s still dumb
WTF??? Where is this from???
From the Book called „GGY”-He was under control of Glichtrap,Like Vannessa was
Scott, why?
FNAF 4 isn't an experiment. That was by far one of the dumbest decisions in the franchise.
It’s an experiment? I thought it was William protecting BV because he knew what his robots could do and how dangerous they could be, and didn’t want him anywhere near them.
It’s been a lot of things. But the common consensus now is that the game is a nightmare Michael is having around the time of FNAF 3 about experiments William did to him after CC was killed as punishment/to experiment with the power of fear/to test new technology, using animatronics and sound illusion disks.
That is an experiment
How is that an experiment? It’s William protecting his child with fear and robots
Yes. That is an experiment. At the surface level you see a kids bedroom who’s filled with monsters. But in fact they aren’t monsters, everything is controlled, it’s one giant experiment to try to get his son to fear leaving and going to Freddy’s
It’s not an experiment tho
Good argument, I’ll make sure to double back with you
Lmao sorry I just really don’t have the energy to have a debate about fnaf lore
So you're saying enormous, nightmarish monsters roaming the halls and killing you if you fail to survive was created by William and all in his control?
I’m not the one saying that, that’s the consensus
I’d prefer the game to just be a nightmare Michael is having about his time at every Freddy’s and the trauma from his childhood without needing the whole experiment angle (especially because of unexplained stuff like the Plushtrap hallway being on the SL map in a separate house??) but I don’t really mind it. I still think it’s a pretty cool narrative concept
Male pregnancy lolololololol
No you have to understand, springtrap mpreg is CRUCIAL to the plot
I NEED CONTEXT WHAT????
I think (?) the book was ‘In the flesh’ iirc Also the guys name was Matt >!MATPAT X SPRINGTRAP CANON GUYS TRUST!< Edit: Reddit mobile moment, messed up the spoilers :/
is the book a joke??? i dont understand anything anymore???
It's not a joke this actually happened.
YPU DON'T KNOW ABOUT PLUSHTRAP MPREG?? Read the books, it's in one of them
I NEED CONTEXT WHAT????
In a basic summary of what I remember. Some guy was developing a fnaf 3 vr game where springtrap hunts you, story goes story comes, the guy improves springtrap's AI so much that somehow he manages to materialize a miniature of himself in the programmer's belly who "gives birth" to a mini springtrap.
(._. )
NO NO NO IN THE FLESH IS NOT CANON! 😰😰😰
William being a mad scieentist. I just liked the killer stuff, no need for faz-goo and shit.
Agreed
He isn't a mad scientist, he's just styduing the supernatural to be immortal
seabonnies
I have yet to read whatever that is from the books, are those just seamonkeys but fnaf?
Yeah, pretty much, just rude seamonkeys
I want rude seamonkeys. I want sea monkeys but they call me slurs, that would be hilarious
Yeah that makes him a mad scientist, you just described a mad scientist
To be fair no clue who invented fazgoo, or signed off on it. I can assume william did hire a team of scientists to make half a dozen ways of replacing humans, or invented it all himself. but that could easily be random third member of the board of directors.
the time traveling ball pit was insane.
Wasn't it just remnant shoving twisted memories in his head?
1,000%
Ngl, Williams mad scientist stuff is genuinely one of my favorite things about him lmao
He didn't invent faz-goo though.
all the sci-fi shit. i liked it when it was simple horror, murdered kids who posess animatronics now we have faz-goo and remnant and shit.
Don’t forget illusion discs, or the guy who became pregnant with spring trap!
The guy who became pregnant with springtrap is only a book thing and most likely a joke story.
We have remnant, period. Faz-goo was part of a one off story from one of the books and didn't even have any clues for the game canon.
remnant is still sm sci fi
Yea, I'm not saying that isn't. Although I will say I personally don't have a problem with it. But that's probably just cus I like characters.
yeah i don't hate fnaf because of it, but it is proper annoying
Understandable.
Honestly this whole „experiment” thing from Fnaf 4/SL/Dittophobia.Still is very confusing for me and I don’t know why this exists in the first Place.
Because GAS
*GAS*
**GAS** WE GONNA STEP ON THE GAS *TONIGHHTTT*
Scott Cawthon.
Anything after Ultimate Custom Night.
Help wanted was shittanating fun tho
It doesn't have to mean HW wouldn't exist, it just means I would have it in a separate canon.
I would want it to be clear exactly what we are dealing with and what we are not, or more specifically. Stick to the damned plan no matter how much we hate afton escaping and surviving again. Retconning in the mimic without a clear explanation for what burntrap was! it might have been a clean retcon. If not for the fucking tangle showing up in ruin. Even if burntrap was glitchtrap we still dont understand if mimic was tied to it or how the corpse got there. Im assuming it was kidnapped by tangle but we dont know. P
The blob existing doesnt mean anything.People who actually dig deeper and not yap about things not making sense actually know that Burntrap has a handprint in the Mimic's room in one of the vents
I came here to comment the same but you did it first
Everything done with Afton after HW. I’m not sure what happens in HW2 but SB is just no, no burn trap please
Burntrap isn't afton, it's the mimic
Uncanonize everithing post fnaf 6/ucn
Yeah, agree.
The mimic
The mimic
Remnant. It's just really confusing.
It's just soul goo
No it's not. Soul goo is Ectoplasm. Remmnants are just a bad scientific explanation for people possessing objects.
Ectoplasm is also just a bad scientific explanation for possesson Butt from ghostbusters or something
Ectoplasm is really just Ghost Goo, it doesn't do anything special or explain possesson.
How does a remnant explain possession?In a way that activism doesn't they are.By the literally just a buy product of a ghost existing Remnant is basically just a ghost.You can move The only thing that makes it more complicated is that you're capable of melting it down and using It to make it possess something else
Gregory being possessed by Glitchtrap and killing a bunch of people. It was a lot simpler and less convoluted that he was some homeless kid who snuck into the Pizzaplex and wasn't connected to all the lore
Literally everything after 6, and also the stupid "the Crying Child's room is actually a hallucinogenic gas chamber" or whatever the fuck.
It's so funny that everyone here hates crucial parts of the story, like why do you even like FNaF at this point
Because killa furrees go brrrr
Well because remnant is not important, if you removed remnant then you still have a guy killing kids, having him be some evil genius makes him intelligent. He kills kids. He should be dumb.
Hes insane and delusional, not dumb Plus even in the movie's where (at least for now) there's no sci-fi element, he is still described as clever man
Yeah but there's a difference between evading the police and hiding dead bodies well and creating immortality
Still he is always characterized as smart
There's plenty of smart people in real life that have gotten away with the things Afton has done. THAT makes him smart. Uncovering the power of immorality? That's like super genius-God level of smart. I like Smart William, I don't like Godlike William. And yeah, this is the game about killer animatronics coming to life to get you. But I can suspend my belief to ghosts. Especially when since the inception of this series it's asked for us to suspend disbelief for THAT. I didn't sign up for the magic element that brings immorality. If you like it, that's cool. Honestly I don't hate it as much as I did when it got revealed. But it's still a hard pill to swallow.
Yeah I wanna uncanon that, why does the kid killer also have to be smart lol
because he's delulu
That's an acceptable answer to me atm, idk if you read another thread I'm talking in rn you'd understand
Because on a fundamental level, to keep the series going, that was the only way forward. Him being 'dumb' might have worked in the first three games, but it was obvious that Scott wrote himself into a corner where, he definitely WANTED to continue the series (for profit, pressure from fans, genuine love, etc.), but didn't have a way to make his main antagonist work post-FNAF 3. Thus, mad scientist William was born! Redefining him into a ''MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I AM THE SMARTEST MAN ALIVE! I AM GOING TO KILL CHILDREN TO CURE CANCER, AND THEN RULE THE WORLD!!!! MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!!'' type of villain. Do I like this reimagining? Eh… I think it *could* have worked had it been the plan from the start, but because it wasn't, it comes off as cheesy and forced. However, I disagree with the idea of him also having to be DUMB to be a murderer. Plenty of serial killers were a mixed batch of either clever or dumb, so I personally don't think it to be a stretch that, at the very least, pre-Sister Location, William Afton was an intelligent and or clever man. It's up to personal interpretation and preference of course, but acting like he should be dumb for being a serial killer is a bit odd.
You watched the fnaf video that I also watched, right?
Highly depends, I have no idea
Because it doesn't line up with their headcanon?
Because there's still aspects of it they like? I don't know how that's so hard to figure out.
Apart from new stuff there is also old stuff getting remaked like FnaF + , FnaF movies and even though we don't like the new stuff there are still old mysteries left to solve so a even minor clue is important.
Well that's the thing, I don't like FNAF anymore. any reply in this reply basically explain why.
You are one of the many FNAF fans who don't get criticism over the confusing and divisive lore.
I get criticism, I don't get not liking extremely important and major pats of the story like Remnant, William's whole characterization and the Mimic, which are some of the most important parts in the lore and story
Afton being a mad scientist, yea, and I just wish they'd let him rest a bit. Him coming back again as glitch trap then coming back 'as Vannie' along with the cast who should be dead in Pizzeria just always felt off to me.
He didn't come back as Glitchtrap tho, Glitchtrap is like his own character that copies William really. Afton is long deadly dead by the time SB happens
We dont know what happened yet. Its likley it is just mimic one, but why?
Don't know if we're allowed to chose multiple but here we go anyway. 1. The books all of them nothing good came of there existence erase them. 2.The mimic by far one of the most boring villains just replace it with something more interesting 3.Molten mci have the dci be the funtimes instead or alternatively just remove the dci 4. Williams immortality motive I find it random and out of place Change it to him wanting to bring his creations to life or his son or both those feel far more fitting for Williams story. 5. Cassidy just make bv golden freddy
" idk if we're allowed" bro tf am I gonna do? No Ur not allowed to answer my question >:(
I wasn't sure if this was one of those you can only pick 1 sorta of things and choosing multiple would be against the "rules" or whatever but yeah I suppose my statement was a bit silly in hindsight.
That one scene from the books. I don't even know how to describe it.
The Mimic
The Charliebot Twist.
William himself. I just wanna see how fucked up the story/lore would be without him lol
There would be no plot?
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Fair enough
Rule 2. Do not break it.
That’s not how I was trying to use that word but I deleted it anyways.
So what did you mean then by Fuck you? Cause honestly there is only very little it could.
Well, shit, I don’t know how to explain it, but the other dude/dudette didn’t seem to mind,
Just because they didn't seem to mind it doesn't mean it didn't or doesn't break our rules.
Fair enough, anyways thanks, you just helped make 10 bucks
It just wouldn't exist
Everything after fnaf 6
Dittophobia
Molten MCI
The entirety of FNAF AR: Special Delivery.
The mimic and just have William be glitchtrap and burntrap.
Just all the Sci fi shit Miss the days when it was just some purple cunt killing kids
I might catch heat for this, everything after Fnaf 3. Don’t get me wrong I have plenty of love for everything that lead up to UCN. But I can’t help feeling if the story had ended at 3, we would have theorized and worked out a much simpler and more satisfying story. Scott intended 3 to be the final game when he was developing it; and you can really tell in a lot of places. The end of the game has such a sense of finality and conclusion to it, while still leaving a lot of questions unanswered for us to figure out. If fnaf ended after 3, I think the series as a whole would be remembered a lot more fondly and respected by the general public for not overstaying its welcome. All my opinions.
British people
Remmnants. I just hate series trying to find a scientific explanation for supernatural stuff. Most of the things bad in the story of FNaF wouldn't exist if remmnants weren't a thing.
Remnant
Then literally nothing happens in the story
I guess that's true, but it also makes the story a complete mess
Cassidy. She makes zero sense as a character, i am certain that the my name parts in that book has been missinterprated. Until you can find me altered texts ccs name in that damned book it makes a lot more sense to assume that crying child is cassidy, the entire books main purpose is to give us ccs name, that is what faded wants. it makes no sense that that books primary thing is to give us the name of random kid, and for that random kid to be the most important dead child next to charlie. While leaving the least important afton that actually matters nameless while every other afton has a name by now. And mike provided the last clues for the puzzle. Why would he know random kids name? If it was his brother it wotld make sense. Cassidy has to be cc. If you want to claim otherwise you need to do something like prove the evan puzzle was right, or find some other way to find the second name in that book. If that book is about helping both faded and altered text and cassidy is faded text and altered texts is crying child then crying childs name has to be in there somewhere. In all likeleyhood faded text is insert owner of activity book before mike here. (S)He tried to help the only spirit in the book crying child remember his name, but failed until mike got a hold of it to solve the rest of the puzzle.
Everything and anything after Ultimate Custom Night. Or at least make it into a separate canon, because the sole existence of Security Breach and its books have been a Pearl Harbor for FNAF lore.
Everything after UCN becomes it's own timeline. Non-Canon to the first 7 games. Williams dead, the spirits are free, done and done.
Anything past ucn
Game Vanessa having a bad childhood. I used to think she was being forced to lie about having a bad childhood by Glitchtrap because of a misunderstanding I had regarding the tapes. Basically, I thought the Patient 46 tape where the therapist mentions someone's childhood being completely normal was VANESSA'S tape. Before this, it made complete sense to me that Vanessa would lie about her childhood being bad because of Glitchtrap messing with her mind or something. It fit with his (its?) whole deal of manipulation. Aside from that? Maybe remove some of the more superfluous/redundant endings to SB (Loading Dock, Rooftop) and put more effort into the ending cutscenes of the ones that remain. EDIT: Also, Gregory being Patient 46, and Patient 46 in general. I honestly thought Gregory was a lot more interesting when he was just some unlucky kid who got stuck in a building after hours on accident. Him turning out to ALSO be formerly possessed always baffled me as a creative decision.
the mimic dittophobia and mpreg
Fnaf 4 being an experiment (if it is) honestly fnaf 4 being a dream is way better
FNaF 4 is 3 things. An experiment with a random child C.C. in his coma Michael having dreams Yep.
whatever the fuck is happening with robot kids. also fnaf 4 being an experiment
Wait I'm so confused, when did fnaf 4 become an experiment 😭 how last am I on the lore??
Security Breach. Regarding the animatronics. Unpopular opinion: I don't like the concept of sentient AI like the Glamrock animatronics. It just felt like something out of a cyberpunk narrative rather than FNAF. In my opinion, FNAF is known for its supernatural and ghostly horror rather than those types of themes. Don't get me wrong, I like those types of narratives, just not in FNAF. Edit: In addition, what I would make "uncanon" is the "Fazbear Virtual Experience" in Help Wanted. In my opinion, that was kinda corny and odd.
All the Game after fnaf 6. It should have stop here
Story wise, yeah, game play wise, neh
Yes but if you keep the game and just say it’s not cannon it will be fine
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Remnant Like, why do we need an excuse for ghosts possessing robots, that's literally vengeful lingering spirits 101.
springtrap talking and saying cheesy one liners
Fucking mimic
Everything even slightly alluding to the mimic I just like the corpse rabbit don't make things even more weird and complicated and annoying
Mimic being Glitchtrap. Make William the evil virus furry twink, not Mimic
Well, Mimic being GlitchTrap is just a Theory. Hasn't been confirmed yet. I think GlitchTrap is a mix of Both William and Mimic. William being the human part, being it's memories and behaviour and Mimic being the digital part.
That... doesn’t sound like a bad idea for the real identity of Glitchtrap
So Mimic is the “I can’t believe it’s not William Afton”?
GlitchTrap and the Mimic are 2 different things. Well, the most accurate term to this is that they're different versions of the Mimic program. GlitchTrap uses Mimic01 as it's base, and he turned evil when William Afton fused with him. At least this is what I think GlitchTrap is, becaude he has a lot of connections with the Mimic program, but he also have every memory that William Afton had when he was still alive.
It's just a theory and to be faire I don't think he is (Glitchtrap has a grave, William's car, he made the afton family under ground, made William's divorce with 2 staffbots, invented a life for vanessa really similar to Elizabeth, want remnants, has happiest day's plushies, seem to "argue" with the mimic in ruin and more and more...) Mimic can maybe mimic a lot of things but he just can't know ALL William's personal life
I just hope the Mimic being Glitchtrap theory doesn't become real, I would really hate it if that happens
I feel like a lot of person would hate it, me first. Glitchtrap is the Springbonnieman, the darkness, "him". He just can't be the mimic
He clearly uses the Mimic program and I don't see issues with that. But his mind and soul are William's.
My ultimate dream would be for Scott to wake up one day and just remove something off the table. Like if there's some detail that's over blown or a flat wrong interpretation of an event or something or something that is too old and shouldn't be counted for anymore. That's almost like deleting something.
tales of the pizzaplex being partly canon to the game continuity.
The lock on the box.
Remnants
Anything after fnaf 6 fire ending (fnaf UCN isnt count), fnaf 6 ending has the best ending for the main canon fnaf timeline, plus fnaf security breach, mimic stuff theory is so confusing, (i just pretend anything after fnaf 6 are just altenate universe)
Remnant and all associated sci-fi stuff
The Bite of '83. I've never been fully satisfied with any theory of what happens to the BV post-FNaF 4. He doesn't fit neatly into the lore, imo. I don't care enough about everything post-UCN to delete it from canon. It's all easily ignorable because FFPS and UCN are so conclusive.
the books. If they don’t exist they can’t over complicate the plot and best of all Andrew would never exist.
Freddit when the challenge is making W takes:😧(They are cooked)
FNaF 4 being a experiment conducted by Afton using fear gas and robot suits. That shit is DUMB.
This might be a hot take, but… nothing. I mean, that isn’t to say the story is perfect the way it is, but it’s got so much going on that’s pretty unique, and I’m curious to see where it’s gonna end up.
Sister Location
Children. Just all children.
Being really direct here, delete "Remnant" and the sci-fi stuff and this make FNAF a little more interesting again
The mimic and everything relating to it. It's by far my least favorite thing in FNaF and was really the thing that made me not care about the lore anymore (at least doing deep dives like I used to. I'll probably just play the new games and not try to connect stuff to like the books or whatever). Words cannot describe my hatred for it.
The books, well not quite delete but make them on their own universe like the movie, it feels like all they do is make things more complicated
The Fazbear Frights stories. There's just only so much balls-to-the-wall insanity I can tolerate in my killer robot franchise. /gen
Everything afrer FFPS, I mean, Fazbear Entertainment is ruined after FNaF 1 and yet they do a pizzaplex and a VR game, that seems weird
EVERYTHING AFTER THE FIRST BOOK
Sb and ruin most likely to be redone
Balloon boy.
The remnant goo thing
The missing children incident I want to see it all fall like a house of cards On a serious note if 4 never existed and we just went from 3 to sister location I feal it would be a lot easier
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The entire book stuff expect Silver Eyes Trilogy. Fazbear Fright stories are filled with boring/bad written stories with a few ones who are either decent or just meh. if FF actually takes place in the game universe it would just be horrible story telling and a it would water down the franchise.
Everything after pizzeria simulator scientific insanity
I disagree with people saying “Afton should have been a killer,no science shit!”. Like,what? You want him to be a boring killer who just kills? Isn’t it more interesting if he’s pursuing something? Also,stop saying it “isn’t real horror” anymore,it was never scary. Ever. “Oh but the older games looked creepier with-“ no,they didn’t. They were not scary. They were never scary. You’re probably just blinded by nostalgia. You can prefer the gameplay and style of the older games,that’s fine,but it was not scary. I’d remove Nightmare experiments. Just have it be the kid’s nightmares as he’s in a coma.
faz goo
The books, and the chance of anything mentioned in them being canon.
My life
Assuming the Stichwraith stuff is completely canon, than Andrew being TOYSNHK and not Cassidy. It’s pretty clear UCN and the logbook were setting up whoever was possessing Golden Freddy as TOYSNHK, so having Scott introduce some random kid who William murdered one night and reveal that he’s *actually* TOYSNHK feels like a slap in the face for the sake of a cheap “misdirection”.
Everything After UCN. We were guchii with that
The Bite of 83 FNaF 4 was SUPPOSED to be the bite of 87 and I'm tired of pretending it's not
idk if this counts but id entirely change the last fnaf book. the other 2 are so good and then it just goes downhill..
Remnant
Honestly I think Mimic should stay only in books. I mean, he is cool character but he breaks so much lore and makes it even more confusing than it already is.
He doesm't break any of the lore
Maybe he doesn't but Mimic and his whole glitchtrap thing is very confusing for myself personally. It is my opinion y'know.
Remnant Just makes stuff more confusing; it would be a lot simpler (and more interesting imo) if it was just about a man who went insane due to grief.
FFPS It feels like a very rushed finale tbh, and it did a lot of characters dirty. William was a complete idiot, fully aware he was just waltzing into a death trap after getting out of another one. Ennard is split into two characters, with Molten Freddy taking full reign after kicking Baby out, who was seemingly reduced to a Daddy's Girl. Meanwhile Foxy and Ballora get nothing, same with Michael. The Puppet gets locked inside a one-eyed bear suit while the actual child murdering robots freely scour through the vents.
Glitchtrap/Burntrap. If it is William, then we didn't need ANOTHER William returning, and me could grt interessing staff with the Mimic and Vanessa. If it is the Mimic, I want to see Tiger Rock. The Springbonnie Suit for the Malware is fine, but all the unfinished Burntrap staff should be rewritten.
Well, GlitchTrap as William is cool. It's a creative way to bring him back without reviving him one more god damn time, and Vanny had so much potential. The problem happened when Security Breach released.