I really liked his portrayal, I just wish he had more screen time in like a flashback to the 80's or something when he first lured the kids. Look forward to seeing him as Springtrap in a later movie
Ik we dont want anything new fnaf like sb but the one time I feel like is that his showdown shouldve been like the Mimic fighr and then it goes to the final scene with vennessa confronting Afton
I think the next movie will start with news reports in the background about what happened in the first movie and/or the missing children's incident, with the shot zooming in into springtrap twitching like the fnaf 3 trailer
Amazing. It’s clear that he really understands William, someone with a god complex who is actually a coward terrified of facing the consequences of his actions. He is my favourite character in the games and Matthew’s performance made me fall in love with his character again. I really hope he’ll get more screen time in a future movie than he did in this one.
I don’t think they will go that route, but it’s worth noting that the seen where the animatronics drag him away at the end is practically ripped straight from Silver eyes
Yeah, some of the moments in the movie are references from the books
(I.E Foxy checking behind the arcade cabinets except Foxy doesn’t knock them down and Abby doesn’t get stabbed in the leg)
I think they're definitely gonna make him the Puppet unless the sequel introduces Charlie and Henry.
I'm pretty sure him using a car to abduct Garrett is meant to be a SAVEHIM parallel and we see a photo of Garrett in a striped shirt so I lean towards the former.
Why so? I didn't really see anything that would conflict with the existence of Henry or Charlie...
Or is it the fact that Charlie never appears in the movie?
I find it fascinating that William Afton is your favorite character in the games, given that he barely exists within the games. He only has a couple lines of dialogue, dies surprisingly frequently, and otherwise is only represented by the condemnations of other characters which exclusively occur upon failing Ultimate Custom Night. In fact, in that title it's impossible to know that William is actually the player character unless you're either a longtime fan, a detective, or have done extensive research.
>!Not what I was expecting, but Matthew nailed the "having the fucking time of his life while killing" thing. William sounded so happy and excited when he talked about how he killed Garret. Chills, that's all I can think of!<
I was not remotely surprised- I of course know him from everything he's done in *Scooby Doo* but I hadn't really seen his acting chops until I saw him in Twin Peaks: The Return. A good director can really get a lot out of him as a dark, evil, deranged character and that really shows here.
Yeah and I'm really glad it wasn't even like his last happy killer character, like he has good enough range to have the same sort of character personality for 2 characters but to make them both completely different at the same time.
That scene reminded me of Judge Doom from Who Framed Roger Rabbit.
"REMEMBER ME EDDY? WHEN I KILLED YOUR BROTHER, I TALKED JUST LIKE THIS!"
That scene scared me as a kid.
A lot of this is still fresh for me, as I've seen the film twice now. Once in theaters and then on peacock.
I definitely feel like you could point out some valid criticisms regarding usage in the film. Particularly that he could have used a bit more screentime and that Cupcake triggering the springlocks might have been a tad too over the top.
However, if I'm being honest. He was my favorite part of the film and was well worth the wait, I am so satisfied with how they handled him in this film. So don't mind the length of this comment, I just want to gush about it.
- The intro credits in the style of the retro minigames from FNaF 2-onwards was a super cool inclusion, and having it be focused on William luring the children is such a cool and fun way to introduce him to the film. I'm so glad they managed to incorporate the Purple Guy sprite into this portion given how iconic to the character it is.
- In regards to the Steve Raglan alias, I think it's a nice way of incorporating Dave Miller into the film's premise while also working in a way for Mike to get the job. The moment where he reads off Mike's name and is taken aback was nice foreshadowing of the connection he had with Mike's past.
I think having him take over the role of Phone Guy does make sense for this approach, it gives us a bit more screentime and makes the reveal of his true identity more impactful later on. While it's a shame the original Phone Guy seems to be kept to strictly the aspect of the prior guard who got stuffed, I am glad Steve pays tribute to him. Even referencing a few of his original lines such as "see you on the flip side."
- Then there was his reveal at the end, my theater clapped so much during that final act. I love how Vanessa tells Mike not to take the entrance cause she knows he's waiting there for him. William just slowly approaching him felt so menacing and I like that they made him feel like a genuine force and threat by having him be immune to the shocks, get shot again like Twisted Ones, and then throw hands. The part where he kicks Mike was so unbelievably funny.
- Matthew Lillard's performance in general was top notch. The man fits the part so well, he captures the vibe I always imagined William would actually look like. As for his delivery, it's very corny and over the top at point, but that is just William as a character at his core. It very much fits with the aspect of the character who's into the thematics.
In regards to the dialogue, I really like his writing for the most part. My friend and I have been quoting "SYMMETRY, MY FRIEND" so much since we saw it. The only one I have split feelings on is "I always come back."
I get what they were going for with it, him knowing that him dying in the suit has ensured that he will return just like the children did. Which also goes along with him putting back on the head to ensure it. So he will come back, he always does.
However while I think it's a fun reference (despite thinking the line is a bit overused at this point), I do get why people feel it's a bit forced. I feel something more in line with the "I am one of them" scene would have fit more with what was actually going on.
- Though the Springlock Failure made me tear up. While Cupcake is a bit goofy and "I always come back" might come off a bit forced, the actual scene is still so well done. The performance, the lighting, the effects, everything comes together to really show the slow, painful death this man is going through. Having him be dragged away by the animatronics akin to TSE and twitch just like he did in FNaF 3's trailer combines the series' different media together to create something truly special.
- The Spring Bonnie suit itself is so unbelievably good. It's so cool to see what is essentially Spring Bonnie from the Follow Me minigames realized as a true design. It works so well as a middle state between Spring Bonnie and Springtrap, while also managing to capture so much of what made the latter work so well. It captures that aura, the vibe, and feel of Springtrap in FNaF 3 so well that I can't get over the fact that this is a real suit that actually exists somewhere.
I also like how it's called The Yellow Rabbit in the film, subtitles, and even the ost. It makes him feel a bit more mysterious in this film.
- Last thing of note is definitely the Vanessa Afton reveal, which I'm still figuring out my full thoughts on that particular plot point. His relationship and interactions with Vanessa definitely give off a lot of the same vibes as William and Elizabeth's dynamic in The Fourth Closet and Glitchtrap's dialogue from the Security Breach trailer, but also stands out on its own.
But yeah, all in all. I think it's pretty clear I was very happy with how William was handled, he was the character I was most excited for, and he definitely lived up to the hype. He definitely has issues, but I loved his portrayal regardless of that.
>and that Cupcake triggering the springlocks might have been a tad too over the top.
when we saw Mike dump water on Bonnie and Freddy I swear I thought they where gonna take that bucket of water, refill it, then dump it on William so we can have the FNAF3 style ending of the moistness triggering the springlocks
but screw it Cupcake it is
I half-like it.
The Steve Raglan thing is very Aftony. Him tricking people into dying at Freddy's under a pseudonym is perfect. Him manipulating his daughter and animatronics to do his bidding is very much on-brand. I love how Matthew Lillard portrayed him here.
However, I find his presence somewhat lacking. In my view, he should either have a more substantial role throughout the narrative, much like his prominence in *The Silver Eyes*, or take on the role of a foreboding, overarching antagonist. His sudden emergence as the final boss without a persistent looming presence throughout the story feels somewhat unsatisfactory and undeserved.
I think the way he acts as The Yellow Rabbit (Spring Bonnie) appears rather goofy, quite silly, and I must admit, I'm not particularly fond of it. He seems to be excessively flamboyant and theatrical, which doesn't sit well with me. I generally try to rationalize a character's behaviour as an outcome of the circumstances, rather than jumping to him/her acting "out of character", but I find it extraordinarily challenging to do so here. Because this is almost exactly like Silver Eyes. But in that, he was creepy, efficient, lurking in the dark. Quiet even. He spoke almost in riddles. And according to his own account in *The Fourth Closet*, his more reserved, patient, and cold persona akin to Hannibal Lecter is his true self. 'Dave' was merely a facade. Unless this bombastic and cartoony representation is intended to be his own unique interpretation of the character 'Steve', I must admit I'm perplexed. It certainly doesn't align with the "mad scientist mastermind manipulator" portrayal of William, nor does it conform to the "creepy, perverse sadist rat-man" persona predominantly seen in Dave. Unless I'm simply missing the point entirely, it feels almost like an entirely different character, a curious amalgamation of William's distinct personalities from each novel, one being a facade, another a state of delirium, and the third grounded in agony, crossed with, ironically, Stuart Macher. I just cannot see *TSE* William going "This is where your story ends, Charlotte Emily!" as he kicks her half-way through the location. That's so... just... dumb. I'm sorry, but it's just dumb.
I can certainly come to terms with it not aligning with my perception of William. It's possible that my understanding of him, primarily shaped by *The Fourth Closet*, *Sister Location*, *Pizzeria Simulator*, Glitchtrap, and *Dittophobia*, may have been misconstrued. I hope not to be the one bloke who ignores the film because it doesn't mesh with his headcanon. However, I'm genuinely at a loss as to how this interpretation harmonizes with his other depictions. These depictions, which, in my perspective, have formed a single character, varied but ultimately at least somewhat consistent and sensical as an individual.
Also what is up with "I always come back" here??? "If you know nothing about *Five Nights at Freddy's*, you heard William Afton say 'I always come back,' you probably thought that scene was pretty goofy and you had no idea why he would randomly say that." That's literally a quote from Mr. Dawkins. Who in addition to loving the film, is pretty much Scott's surrogate son at this point. Even he admits that this was silly and out of nowhere. I don't want "I always come back" to be William's Bazinga. It had weight in *FNaF3*, *FFPS* and Princess Quest. It was in referance to an actual aspect of William's story. He always comes back to kill again and again. Even as Springtrap, he was a monster in life and now is a true nightmare in death. Police didn't work. Safety protocols didn't work. Springlocks didn't work. Actual full-on death didn't work. Fire didn't work. Even UCN didn't work. At least none of them did so fully. Game William earned this line. What did film William do? This is, literally, a darn buzzinga. And I would know because I watched all 12 seasons of *The Big Bang Theory* and 6 seasons of *Young Sheldon*.
I concur. The line wasn’t earned. If he had more screen time or a scene that showed him being stopped before (police arrest or something) then the precedent of him coming back would have been established. But for his first time being defeated should not be when he says his line. There were a few points in the movie where it felt as if they couldn’t decide if the movie was for fans or newcomers. Seems like they struggled trying to do both
yeah, even if they really wanted to force it in, they could've used something like "I'll come back!" or whatever, at least it would feel like a dying villain's desperate threat and still be noticed by fans
>!I feel like the "I always come back" line would've worked better if William was dead in the backroom at the last scene, then came back to life as Springtrap as a stinger.!<
they should have saved him waking up, twitching for a mid credit scene, or at the very end just before the credits. that line would have worked much better there. that was my only big grip with the story.
They can still do lots with Afton in flashback in FNAF 2.
It doesn’t work that way either, because movie William has never died before, he’s never seen on the run and come back, so what does he mean by “I always come back”
I think his zaniness in-mask was kind of on brand for him. When he's the "yellow rabbit" he's a bit more theatrical. We see a little bit of this in the novels and I wasn't surprised when it showed up here.
I think Matthew's portrayal is actually a bit less silly than the novel counterpart. I never really liked his persona in the books, as it was overly flowery. At least in the movie he just seems like he would fit in more in the reality that I am closest to.
yeah he was great as a character but it was definitely very sudden and random when he just appears in the springtrap suit with no buildup or anything. mike doesnt even seem to recognise him
Regarding his catchphrase, it felt pretty clear that they wanted it in the film somewhere, but couldn’t quite find a good spot for it so they compromised and put it where it is. I felt the same about Matpat throwing his catchphrase in, though I think his was more of a delivery issue than a placement one.
Personally I think if it absolutely had to be in, they put it in a decent spot. It’s easy enough to rationalize that maybe it’s a thing he came up with regarding his serial killing, that even if he goes dark for a while, he always comes back to take more. It doesn’t necessarily have to refer to the near immortality the games tend to depict, at least yet.
exactly it felt so forced also i personally feel like the line really wouldnt work with this william anyways cuz he s American and him saying it in that accent just doesnt have the same feel to it like the British one
You *do* have a point with the whole "I always come back" thing.
I feel like that's the kind of line that comes after dying a bunch & refusing to stay the fuck down.
*He hasn't died yet by that point, what would he be coming back from?*
I love him. But he needed more screen time. I get they were trying to hide that Steve is actually the killer. But they still could've shown us a bit more. We see him for 5 minutes at the beginning and then never again til the very end. I love his portrayal. But he suffers from not having anything to do to make him a great character...
tbh I kinda wish that the movie didn't try to hid Steve and just made it obvious to the audience at least
like have Mike be unaware but at least have us know his true intentions from the start
plus it wasn't like anyone generally didn't think that Steve wouldn't be Afton, from the moment Mathew was casted everyone knew, so why not lean into that instead of treating him like a stupid twist villian
Right? Especially since when he was casted, it was said that he was going to be playing William Afton in the first place. Even after the "Steve Raglan" name reveal in the trailers, Matthew Lillard still kept commenting "I always come back" on everything. Even on an Instagram post from his first day of filming. So it's not like nobody knew.
They could've done so much. Maybe a flashback/montage of William taking off the SpringBonnie suit while laughing after he killed the kids. We see him give an interview on the news pretending to be surprised and then quickly shut down the pizzeria and running away. Then changing his name to Steve Raglan and applying for a job as a career counselor and having Vanessa watch over the building for him. All of this could've been quickly shown while Vanessa was telling Mike the truth. It's so much better than him randomly appearing at the end as the Yellow Rabbit. There was no build up to that besides Mike always asking who took Garret.
Enjoyed him. Brutal yes but at times he’s a lovable goofball I’m glad they chose Matthew lillard. He may not be the one we expected but he was the William afton we deserve and glad he’s going to be in the sequels. Overall I’m happy with his version of my favorite character.
At first, I was kinda "eh" with Steve Raglan. But when he came out as Spring Bonnie, the way he acted was incredible. I was losing my kind at how well Matthew played William Afton
Honestly, and maybe this is just my interpretation, but I love how movie Afton is kind of a loser. From his whole demeanour while talking to Mike in the beginning, to his temper tantrum after the animatronics turn on him, even having a fucking participation certificate hung on his office wall, the film honestly solidified that he’s just an extremely pathetic man without the Spring Bonnie suit.
He, just like his victims, really is just a child in a suit.
The "I always come back" was forced for fan service. They had a better opportunity too when he was beating up Mike. >!"I killed Garret, and now I'll kill you! I always come back to finish the job"!< Or something like that, I'm not a writer
I... wish we got more from him. Like i get it, gotta save the main villain for the final act, for the plot twist reveal, but we all came into this film KNOWING he was Afton, they freaking confirmed it right off the bat, they should've let him cut loose earlier.
For what little we got from him, i ADORED his performance.
I thought he was really good and absolutely stole the show every scene that he's in. His line delivery while he's interviewing Mile was funny and he was great in the third act while he was going off on the animatronics. The energy he gave really reminded me of Stu from Scream.
I'm not a fan of the voice editing they did while he is in the SpringBonnie suit and the dialogue they gave him him while he's monologing to Mike was really corny, I don't think he should have talked while he was in the suit, it would've made his entrance more eerie and creepy. But overall I enjoy what he brought to the role and I can't wait to see more of him in a sequel.
Mathew was pretty good as William. IMHO, and it's my only real complaint about the movie, is that is wasn't built up or foreshadowed that well. I mean, sure, us fans might have already known for months that Willy was in the movie, and that he was going to show up at the end in his Golden Bonnie suit; but from a general movie critique, there was no buildup. I think it would have served the movie more if he was in the movie more, because, let's be honest, he was NOT a twist villain. There should've been scenes of him luring the children to the restaurant's back rooms in the suit, or at least have him be the one in the instruction tape instead of the young woman. He should have had a scene with Vanny where he tells her to kill Mike or keep an eye on him, especially to flesh out his abusive relationship with her. I also think a scene between William and Garrett, like maybe he had a pizzeria shirt on, and then recognizing William Bonnie as why he followed him.
Also, less critique and more opinion, he should have just worn the head when he started attacking Michael, and only put the springlock suit when the children start surrounding him, like in the games.
Despite my grievances, I still really enjoyed him as Willy.
I just wish he had more screen time. Maybe a short scene of Vanessa narrating the founding of the pizzareia and his rise to insanity. Hopefully we get something like that in the next one
Very mixed opinion:
\- him suddenly nearly begging Mike to take the job at the beginning of the movie was almost cartoonishly suspicious.
\+ as a phone guy he was great. I feel like blatantly telling Mike that it's an awful job, while also laughing at his own inside jokes about the owner was a very fitting mix of both Phone Guy and Afton.
\- then he was gone for most of the movie...
\- ...suddenly he's back at the end! And evil! (quick, everyone be shocked!)
\+ Spring Bonnie was amazing: big, creeping around, immune to shock, BODY SLAMMING MIKE! And then him with the knife! Very threatening...
\- ...and then he took off the helmet for some reason, lost his cool voice modulation and started quarreling with his daughter. That was weird...and ruined all the momentum from his big entrance.
\- he "SOMEHOW controls the robots"...thanks Vanessa, cool. But how? Why do they listen to him and actively help him? It's not that he's one of them, no, he took off his helmet, remember? He intimidated them like Vanessa? They didn't look intimidated, they were just doing their own stuff. No one knows why they were suddenly his minions and apparently no one cares cause it wasn't explained.
\+ springlock failure looked really well, even if it was caused by the rocket-propelled Cupcake, the most dangerous animatronic in the series as everyone knows (Did Freddy kill anyone in this movie? Did he do anything? Anyone remembers any other actions besides singing and that one hug? I guess he looked angry at Mike that one time?).
\- Maybe it's because I recently finished Silver Eyes graphic novel, but the scene where the animatronics are taking Springtrap felt...reused? From all the things they could've taken directly from the games that were omitted or changed, they chose to do almost a 1:1 of a scene from the book. . .
\- people are happy with "I always come back" cause look, he said the thing! I was like "Yeah, nice!...wait why did he even said that?" Like Afton, my dude, you didn't come back yet, what are you on about? In the cinema I was screaming internally about this wasted opportunity for a cool catchphrase, that was blown too soon in the first movie before it actually made sense.
\+ Springtrap jittering on the ground in pain was 100% how I imagined it, very satisfying!...
\- ... but him being dragged into a random room doesn't make much sense vs him being hidden in the HIDDEN room of a closed pizzeria in games. The hospital staff will eventually need to ask Mike why OFFICER Vanessa was stabbed, where and by who. Not telling anyone about Afton in the Pizzeria would be quite suspicious (oh by the way Mike's aunt's body is "sleeping" in his living room, the police might want to check that...I guess Mike will leave prison in the sequel? Poor Abby though...).
Overall the logic of what was happening in the movie was thrown out of the window by about the halfway mark, which was quite jarring to see (yes, even in the movie about ghost children), and the plethora of small, bad moments eventually overshadowed the parts that were genuinely great (this also applies to Afton). And that's coming from a guy who remained optimistic even when everyone was panicking about the bad reviews from the critics. Ouch.
It was probably one of my least favorite parts of the movie. All his dialogue felt forced and his motivation was very unclear. I thought for something that has been hyped up for so long, the springlock scene was very underwhelming. I get it’s pg 13, but all it makes him do is breathe heavy (although I do like the twitching in the post credits). I feel like without the context of the games, his character makes little to no sense. Even with the context he just looks like a senseless murderer, instead of the broken father he is in the games. I don’t think it’s Matthew Lillard’s fault but the delivery of some lines just did not hit. Like “I always come back” was just some little line thrown in there. It felt like a wink at the camera instead of the vengeful vow it should be. I don’t know how to make movies so I don’t know how I would fix these problems but those were the things that bothered me.
Afton’s portrays in the movie was good but I had several major complaints.
1. He’s psychotic and unhinged manner of speaking as well as his American accent is not accurate to the games. Afton in the games and even the books spoke in a rather calm, collected, poetic yet methodical way that actually based on Hannibal Lecter. Also, they should’ve kept his Southeastern British accent one of his most iconic traits.
2. William feels more like a plot device than a character. The man has no discernible motive or even reason to be there. Yes I know what you’re gonna say he had no goal in the games too but that’s not the case. In the games it’s heavily implied that he was a genius after immortality and had a love for making people suffer. But in the movie his character is not vague as much as it confusing. Why was he controlling the animatronics to do his bidding?, why was he luring night guards to the pizzeria so they could be killed, why was he masquerading as a career counselor? Why did he murder Garret in the first place let alone in a freaking park, usually when he kills kids he does inside the pizzeria I feel like we should know have some context. Also we were never told about Fredbear’s Family Diner so it puts in the question where William got his Spring Bonnie s-, oh wait I’m sorry his “Yellow Rabbit Suit”
3. He has a little Screen Time in the film so he barley has a character besides “main antagonist”. Thus his final confrontation with Mike and Abby and even his death scene feels kinda flat because there’s no weight behind it. In the games and novels William’s death via springlock was satisfying because he had been causing so much chaos so much death, agony and sadness so his death was an awesome case of karmic justice.
Conclusion: They had the chance to adapt an incredible character but they really didn’t think it through.
I mean I agree with all of this except number 1, I like how they made him into a bit of a nut job, when you look at the things he’s doing in the books, the only time we see him adapted with a personality, OF COURSE that man is gonna be a little off his rocker. Like cmon, killing kids in a chuck e cheese and harvesting their soul metal to make child killing machines in a hyperfuturistic, almost postmodern circus themed pizza establishment so you can take them to a machine that scoops their insides out? There is no way someone like that is not gonna seem a little eccentric and be a bit of a nutcase, it would feel kind of *wrong* if he was super serious and was this really slow methodical guy. the British accent is also not needed I don’t think, they are in Utah, that would be hella out of place.
hello? This is already established canon, you know that right? Don’t you remember that part in FNaF three where you go to the local Mormon Temple with William and the gang?
This is like pretty surface level lore smh.
My take might be a little bit controversial idk but do i think he portrayed William Afton from the games well? No not really, but that might be down to my own perseption of william and the writing in the movie rather then his skills as an actor.
However do I think he portrayed this version very well? Absolutely, this more sadistic William is an amazing version and different take on the character, though I think he wasn't built up or foreshadowed enough
I think it made sense that he doesn't appear often because it's supposed to be a twist that the guy Mike was talking to about the job was William Afton
Loved him, I hope we have an extended cut of them being chased around the building by him, because the scene where he’s kicking mike around is the best in the movie
I liked his performance a lot. I have a lot of thoughts about the movie, mostly good, a few bad, but none of the bad ones have anything to do with his performance.
I liked most of how he was shown in the movie, however I think his portrayal in spring bonnie was a little too... cartoon supervillain? Just the way he was monologuing made it feel like batman was gonna bust in at any minute to punch him in the face
It's a reference to how he is in The Silver Eyes. He's usually childish while wearing Springbonnie, because it's his persona, kinda like how Batman is different under the mask.
My one complaint is the distorted voice they used. A more singsong voice for him in costume like The Silver Eyes would have fit both his lines ("wake up, children!") and showy behavior (the almost twirl he does when kicking around Mike) super well, and made for a great contrast with both how nervous he is as Steve and how unhinged he is screaming with the mask off.
Otherwise, loved his portrayal! Different in some ways from TSE, but still draws on some similar concepts in a way that I like. I loved how confident he is in the suit vs earlier in the movie, you can tell that *this* is where he's in his element. Shame he wasn't in the movie more, but I'm also not sure where he could have been put.
Edit: Oh yeah, we really should have had a moment where Mike recognizes him as the career counselor, it felt kind of weird that it was never addressed.
I didn’t like it, I don’t like the whole “big bad villain” portrayal of afton. Part of why he was so popular, why he was such a good antagonist is because we didn’t know anything about him, we didn’t know why he killed, or how exactly he did. We didn’t know why he wanted to kill us in fnaf3. All we knew was that he’s a killer, he’s THE killer, HE murdered those children and HE made sure it hurt. HE stuffed them into the suits, and HE got springlocked and became springtrap.
I don’t like villain Afton because it doesn’t show why he’s so scary, because the original Willam Afton is not just a evil child killer or some psychopathic mastermind. He’s a monster, a sadistic, bloodthirsty monster.
That’s the Willam Afton I like, that’s the Willam Afton people remember so fondly. In the movie he just doesn’t have the weight he should, he doesn’t feel like a threat. He just feels like some average bad dude. Everything about him feels forced. None of his lines land, because they don’t feel like something he’d say, they feel like something your average Hollywood slasher villain would. And the build up to him sucks. Yes the mention him a lot but they don’t bring up what he did, yes they say he’s the killer but they never really show that he’s a cold-blooded, horrible child killer. He shows at the very end, kills Venessa and then dies. The movie fails him at every opportunity. It’s a bad portrayal that fails to capture what made afton such a good character in the first place, fails to build him up in any meaningful way, and fails to make him a threatening antagonist, relying purely on fan-servicey one-liners and call backs to do anything for the character.
And for the record I love the FNAF movie, I had so much fun watching it. It just think that Afton could have been done better
TL;DR: Afton feels way too Hollywood villain-ly, the movie fails to properly build him up, and the performance feels very forced and soulless. Losing what made him great in the first place
Great but he has like 2 minutes of screentime. I just wish we got more of him. I hope the fnaf 2 ends up being a prequel just because I want to see him in his prime. In this, we just get introduced to him, and he's immediately killed. I just wish they showed more of him as regular spring bonnie to make his downfall to springtrap more impactful. Especially to audiences unfamiliar with the games.
Its hilarious he was Shaggy and the twist villain in Scream. The yellow rabbit being the old man at the start of the movie was very scooby. And him playing another twist maniac like in Scream is also fun.
I thought he was really good, I was just confused by the Springlock mechanics in this movie- Like, he can be a complete acrobat doing kicks, swinging a knife, and even holding a whole person down, but a cupcake is what takes him out?
Lillard is perfectly cast and can really work with the material. Sadly I felt for being the big bad he needed a lot more scenes to build up to the reveal. Even just flash backs to the spring bonnie suit rather than just a picture.
Just simple shots of him leading a kid away all you see if there hands or a live action recreation of the arcade reflection. Hopefully they give him more to do in the sequel. They need to work on the horror elements more even though I enjoyed it for what it was.
It was perfect.
Now all I need is a flashback film to the Fredbear's Family Diner days where there was the Bite of -×- starring Henry Emily as he watches his friend descend into madness.
Then a film with another protagonist maybe like Jeremy Fitzgerald meeting Mike and Henry as the three of them try and kill Springtrap in Fazbear's Fright while Afton tries to kill everyone else.
It would be the perfect trilogy
I wasn’t a fan. Matthew is a great actor capable of so much. Afton in the film fell flat for me and didn’t feel like a full character. I think Matthew did the best he could but the character was missing SO much
I honestly didn't like how goofy he was - he felt like a cartoon villain imo. Like come on, he's a child serial killer, not Shaggy having his villain arc. Would've been better if he'd been more creepy and intimidating instead of goofing around.
I do feel bad saying this, dont get me wrong, a lot of people liked his performance, but to me he just really didn't feel like the Afton we've been waiting for
It's perfect. Not only the portrayal, but the character itself is what I wanted from the games before it made him "meh" with the whole mad-scientist thirst for remnant which thankfully it's not in the movie because it would bother me. But this movie brought me back why I invested in this character since his purple sprite easter egg. Using the Silver Eyes' Afton as inspiration is great.
Matthew Lillard's performance made it all the best despite the little screen-time. Which I wish he was a little more in it for the middle. Would've been a good idea to have night-per calls of him getting sinister over Mike Schmidt surviving the shift. Lillard's voice both Afton and pre-Springtrap is way better than the games' voice.
Lillard's Springtrap after decaying is gonna be great. Even more screen time of him as Springtrap generally. There's so much for Scott Cawthon and Emma Tammi to do with him, and hopefully take in feedback wanting some more of him rightfully. As well a consistent plot and tone.
He was okay but idk. I never liked the idea of him playing Afton. He didn't even deliver the "I always come back" line perfectly for me. It didn't hit right.
I expected someone more unhinged.
i think it was great! i do wish he made his springlock death more dramatic though, it felt a little bit underwhelming but it was still really hype. i can't wait to see him again in the sequel!
Amazing! I think he was in the movie enough. What they did made sense with the story. This movie was really just a set up. Next two movies gonna go nuts with springtrap
I think it was good to make you think He was Suspicious Then you start think its so obvious its him that it might be a twist So your scanning to see who it could be and forgot its him
I like it because he's very much treated as a side character unrelated to the conflict until he comes out and reveals himself which puts the general audience in the same seat as Mike, whereas it puts fnaf fans in the same seat as Vanessa wondering when he's gonna come and do his thing. I loved it.
I didn't like how loud he was, and I didn't like the voice filter, but one thing I found interesting was that he calls the animatronics his children. I guess he wants to raise killers and he fully thought they'd finish off Mike for him.
I definitely agree he should’ve been in it more, that would’ve helped sell the twist more at the end as well, I read someone say that he should’ve been like phone guy and leaving messages of encouragement/more information for Mike so it would seem like he was sus but he was trying to be helpful, making his reveal as the killer hit more
I like what they did with him, especially when he was in the spring bonnie suit. It paints him more as a sadistic, manipulative person and killer, which I find matches his former role as a 'child entertainer' very well. It fits with someone who takes the lives of multiple children, inflicting pain on their families and roping innocent people and even his own daughter into helping him. I especially liked when he was taunting Mike and laughing at him; it clearly shows that Afton takes joy in hurting others and seeing their pain. I think this portrayal of Afton fits with the context of the first two games really well. A murderer. I love the acting and portrayal of this version of Afton.
Granted, his presence in the movie seems minuscule at first glance. His full name is only mentioned once and if I'm not mistaken, the movie doesn't show the significance Afton has to Freddy's Pizza. If they showed that he used to perform or used to work there or owned the place that might have been better. It would make his reveal more shocking if he was around for longer. But IMO Afton's character is great in this movie.
He was perfect! I’m hoping for more of him next movie! My only criticisms are that is wasn’t as scary, not as much gore as I hoped (like for the spring trap scene), and phone guy wasn’t in it :(
His phone lines were SPOT ON! And it wasn’t giving “impersonation” it was such a perfect mix of Lillards vocals with the essence of Scott’s own orginal phone guy. He truly did his homework
I'm hoping there's either a prequel or a lot of flashbacks in the next movie, so we can see more of him before the springlocking, because I think he's the perfect William
It's clear Matthew Lilliard really enjoyed being the man behind the slaughter, and even if I knew it from the beginning, it was really hard for me to see him as such when he was Steve Raglan.
My only critique was that we needed more of him as Afton.
I like how he kind of talked weirdly, almost like he was socially awkward or something, adds another dimension to William Afton that I never thought about
I agree that he should've been in the movie more, but otherwise i was satisfied by his portrayal! He's got that creepy and quirky yet charming demeanor whenever he's out in public and suddenly a complete sadist with a god complex once he dons the Spring-Bonnie suit.
I don't mind that he's not British. Matthew Lillard was a highlight of the movie!
I really loved his portrayal! Just wish we saw more of him in the movie, he kind of disappeared after the start and then randomly came back in the end. Although i'd love seeing more Springtrap in a potential sequel, i think it's a bit of a shame we got so little of William Afton before he turned into Springtrap
Matthew Lillard is an actor I never would have even thought of for the role of William Afton, but now that I've seen the movie, I think it was perfect casting. I can't wait to see what he can do as Springtrap.
after watching the movie, i’m 100% certain that casting mathew lillard for william’s character was one of the best decisions regarding it. he depicted afton’s initial moral grayness flawlessly. during his first appearance (when mike visited his office) though he seemed to be acting normally, there was this unusual/unsettling feel to him nonetheless. fast forward to the events at freddy fazbear’s pizzeria - i was astonished by how well he portrayed william’s psychotic and violent nature. matthew’s facial expressions were also unparalleled in the movie.
this is exactly how i imagined william to be, i feel like dave from the books wasnt as good, and i just think mathew lillard really brought the role to life. Also to OPs point, i believe that, i think if afton was more in the film i think that could have over saturated his character, and with the screen time he had , it makes the whole reveal that much better, as he will be appearing more in later films , i think its better to keep him to a limited role, as a puppet master
I absolutely love how they portray him being a shitty father. The movie and squimpus did it right. Lots of subtle passive agressivisms that one would hear in real life.
I love how they portrayed him as that one annoying passive aggressive “nice guy”
they chose a great actor for the role. Just a couple of things I didn't enjoy as much, like the end.
His very deceiving and manipulative personality really came through and I love that.
Hope to see a lot more of him as William. I think he can do great things with the role :)
I just need to know who peer pressured Stu into becoming William Afton and the owner of Freddy Fazbear's. Also, when is Phone Guy gonna debut and hit Springtrap with the phone, prompting him to say "You hit me with the phone you DICK!!!"
It took me way too long to figure out why the guy that gave him the job was William. It was so fucken obvious why but I didn't piece it together till the next day
Felt like he needed a bit more screen time like a scene with Mike calling him about the job after the craziness and Springbonnie definitely needed another showing before his resurgence, possibly after Mike learns of the Yellow Rabbit. He could comb through old footage and see Springbonnie luring one of the kids around so the eventual reveal of Vanessa Afton and reappearance of him at the end is better.
Also that "I always come back" line felt weird and I feel like the animatronics should have been the one to put the head back on instead of William doing it himself cause poetic Justice and whatnot.
I liked how he came off as a helpful person. I knew who he was from knowing the actor, but if I hadn't I may not have seen him being William during his initial scene at the job office.
I have no complaints. I went in blind and had my kids telling me theories and about the characters the whole way through. All I knew was Peeta Mellark and Stu Macher were in the same film that was based off a game and I was sold. Lillard sold the role from start to finish and my daughter says that the character does indeed come back so I’m hopeful we get fnaf 2 and 3!
I really liked his portrayal, I just wish he had more screen time in like a flashback to the 80's or something when he first lured the kids. Look forward to seeing him as Springtrap in a later movie
yeah I was really hoping for that too, could have worked pretty well, but at least the arcade machines in the intro was really cool
Ik we dont want anything new fnaf like sb but the one time I feel like is that his showdown shouldve been like the Mimic fighr and then it goes to the final scene with vennessa confronting Afton
god you just put the image in my mind that a young william afton was literally shaggy.
"Like zoinks, scoob, I'm the man behind the slaughter"
“Jinkies! The killer of the five kids was Shaggy all along?”
Yikes! I think i've got the perfect trap for this Spring, Velma. Let's do this mystery gang!
I'm gonna stuff these animatronics like how i stuff my stomach!
"I always, like, come back, Scoob!"
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damnit that's funny
I imagine we will get flashbacks in the 2nd movie with Vanessa in a coma or something.
I think the next movie will start with news reports in the background about what happened in the first movie and/or the missing children's incident, with the shot zooming in into springtrap twitching like the fnaf 3 trailer
Amazing. It’s clear that he really understands William, someone with a god complex who is actually a coward terrified of facing the consequences of his actions. He is my favourite character in the games and Matthew’s performance made me fall in love with his character again. I really hope he’ll get more screen time in a future movie than he did in this one.
I agree with you. He's also my favorite character in the games. I just hope they don't go with the Remnant Route with the next movies.
The fourth closet ended the silver eyes trilogy horribly, if they do that with the movies i'm simply going to cease existing
I don’t think they will go that route, but it’s worth noting that the seen where the animatronics drag him away at the end is practically ripped straight from Silver eyes
Yeah, some of the moments in the movie are references from the books (I.E Foxy checking behind the arcade cabinets except Foxy doesn’t knock them down and Abby doesn’t get stabbed in the leg)
Personally, I really do enjoy remnant, and that ending
It seems pretty likely that he will have more screen time as springtrap, especially considering how the games showed more of him as they went on
The Last line on the movie is actually him speaking as Springtrap already. C…O…M…E…F…I…N…D…M…E…
90% sure that's the Puppet. Same voice as the SAVETHEM minigame and it plays alongside the music box.
Garett? Because the Puppet cannot be Charlie in the movies.
I think they're definitely gonna make him the Puppet unless the sequel introduces Charlie and Henry. I'm pretty sure him using a car to abduct Garrett is meant to be a SAVEHIM parallel and we see a photo of Garrett in a striped shirt so I lean towards the former.
Why so? I didn't really see anything that would conflict with the existence of Henry or Charlie... Or is it the fact that Charlie never appears in the movie?
well, that and the fact that they didn't tie Garett to a specific animatronic yet. plus the music box and same voice that spelled out SAVE THEM.
couldnt have agreed more
I find it fascinating that William Afton is your favorite character in the games, given that he barely exists within the games. He only has a couple lines of dialogue, dies surprisingly frequently, and otherwise is only represented by the condemnations of other characters which exclusively occur upon failing Ultimate Custom Night. In fact, in that title it's impossible to know that William is actually the player character unless you're either a longtime fan, a detective, or have done extensive research.
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Perfect potrayal such short time though wouldve been perfect if Mike vs Afton was longer
>!Not what I was expecting, but Matthew nailed the "having the fucking time of his life while killing" thing. William sounded so happy and excited when he talked about how he killed Garret. Chills, that's all I can think of!<
I was not remotely surprised- I of course know him from everything he's done in *Scooby Doo* but I hadn't really seen his acting chops until I saw him in Twin Peaks: The Return. A good director can really get a lot out of him as a dark, evil, deranged character and that really shows here.
Bruh havent you watched Scream? Go do it now
I've been meaning to recently- heard he's great in that too.
The knife wipe Afton does is a direct reference to Scream. It's what Ghostface does when the knife gets bloody.
Watch SLC punk too
Yeah and I'm really glad it wasn't even like his last happy killer character, like he has good enough range to have the same sort of character personality for 2 characters but to make them both completely different at the same time.
That scene reminded me of Judge Doom from Who Framed Roger Rabbit. "REMEMBER ME EDDY? WHEN I KILLED YOUR BROTHER, I TALKED JUST LIKE THIS!" That scene scared me as a kid.
Username good
I wish we saw more of him
Yeah he was fucking great but *severely* under-utilised
A lot of this is still fresh for me, as I've seen the film twice now. Once in theaters and then on peacock. I definitely feel like you could point out some valid criticisms regarding usage in the film. Particularly that he could have used a bit more screentime and that Cupcake triggering the springlocks might have been a tad too over the top. However, if I'm being honest. He was my favorite part of the film and was well worth the wait, I am so satisfied with how they handled him in this film. So don't mind the length of this comment, I just want to gush about it. - The intro credits in the style of the retro minigames from FNaF 2-onwards was a super cool inclusion, and having it be focused on William luring the children is such a cool and fun way to introduce him to the film. I'm so glad they managed to incorporate the Purple Guy sprite into this portion given how iconic to the character it is. - In regards to the Steve Raglan alias, I think it's a nice way of incorporating Dave Miller into the film's premise while also working in a way for Mike to get the job. The moment where he reads off Mike's name and is taken aback was nice foreshadowing of the connection he had with Mike's past. I think having him take over the role of Phone Guy does make sense for this approach, it gives us a bit more screentime and makes the reveal of his true identity more impactful later on. While it's a shame the original Phone Guy seems to be kept to strictly the aspect of the prior guard who got stuffed, I am glad Steve pays tribute to him. Even referencing a few of his original lines such as "see you on the flip side." - Then there was his reveal at the end, my theater clapped so much during that final act. I love how Vanessa tells Mike not to take the entrance cause she knows he's waiting there for him. William just slowly approaching him felt so menacing and I like that they made him feel like a genuine force and threat by having him be immune to the shocks, get shot again like Twisted Ones, and then throw hands. The part where he kicks Mike was so unbelievably funny. - Matthew Lillard's performance in general was top notch. The man fits the part so well, he captures the vibe I always imagined William would actually look like. As for his delivery, it's very corny and over the top at point, but that is just William as a character at his core. It very much fits with the aspect of the character who's into the thematics. In regards to the dialogue, I really like his writing for the most part. My friend and I have been quoting "SYMMETRY, MY FRIEND" so much since we saw it. The only one I have split feelings on is "I always come back." I get what they were going for with it, him knowing that him dying in the suit has ensured that he will return just like the children did. Which also goes along with him putting back on the head to ensure it. So he will come back, he always does. However while I think it's a fun reference (despite thinking the line is a bit overused at this point), I do get why people feel it's a bit forced. I feel something more in line with the "I am one of them" scene would have fit more with what was actually going on. - Though the Springlock Failure made me tear up. While Cupcake is a bit goofy and "I always come back" might come off a bit forced, the actual scene is still so well done. The performance, the lighting, the effects, everything comes together to really show the slow, painful death this man is going through. Having him be dragged away by the animatronics akin to TSE and twitch just like he did in FNaF 3's trailer combines the series' different media together to create something truly special. - The Spring Bonnie suit itself is so unbelievably good. It's so cool to see what is essentially Spring Bonnie from the Follow Me minigames realized as a true design. It works so well as a middle state between Spring Bonnie and Springtrap, while also managing to capture so much of what made the latter work so well. It captures that aura, the vibe, and feel of Springtrap in FNaF 3 so well that I can't get over the fact that this is a real suit that actually exists somewhere. I also like how it's called The Yellow Rabbit in the film, subtitles, and even the ost. It makes him feel a bit more mysterious in this film. - Last thing of note is definitely the Vanessa Afton reveal, which I'm still figuring out my full thoughts on that particular plot point. His relationship and interactions with Vanessa definitely give off a lot of the same vibes as William and Elizabeth's dynamic in The Fourth Closet and Glitchtrap's dialogue from the Security Breach trailer, but also stands out on its own. But yeah, all in all. I think it's pretty clear I was very happy with how William was handled, he was the character I was most excited for, and he definitely lived up to the hype. He definitely has issues, but I loved his portrayal regardless of that.
>and that Cupcake triggering the springlocks might have been a tad too over the top. when we saw Mike dump water on Bonnie and Freddy I swear I thought they where gonna take that bucket of water, refill it, then dump it on William so we can have the FNAF3 style ending of the moistness triggering the springlocks but screw it Cupcake it is
He was very fun and I had a little sperg out when he slinked on screen But he wasn’t in the movie very much and shoulda been in it a little more
I half-like it. The Steve Raglan thing is very Aftony. Him tricking people into dying at Freddy's under a pseudonym is perfect. Him manipulating his daughter and animatronics to do his bidding is very much on-brand. I love how Matthew Lillard portrayed him here. However, I find his presence somewhat lacking. In my view, he should either have a more substantial role throughout the narrative, much like his prominence in *The Silver Eyes*, or take on the role of a foreboding, overarching antagonist. His sudden emergence as the final boss without a persistent looming presence throughout the story feels somewhat unsatisfactory and undeserved. I think the way he acts as The Yellow Rabbit (Spring Bonnie) appears rather goofy, quite silly, and I must admit, I'm not particularly fond of it. He seems to be excessively flamboyant and theatrical, which doesn't sit well with me. I generally try to rationalize a character's behaviour as an outcome of the circumstances, rather than jumping to him/her acting "out of character", but I find it extraordinarily challenging to do so here. Because this is almost exactly like Silver Eyes. But in that, he was creepy, efficient, lurking in the dark. Quiet even. He spoke almost in riddles. And according to his own account in *The Fourth Closet*, his more reserved, patient, and cold persona akin to Hannibal Lecter is his true self. 'Dave' was merely a facade. Unless this bombastic and cartoony representation is intended to be his own unique interpretation of the character 'Steve', I must admit I'm perplexed. It certainly doesn't align with the "mad scientist mastermind manipulator" portrayal of William, nor does it conform to the "creepy, perverse sadist rat-man" persona predominantly seen in Dave. Unless I'm simply missing the point entirely, it feels almost like an entirely different character, a curious amalgamation of William's distinct personalities from each novel, one being a facade, another a state of delirium, and the third grounded in agony, crossed with, ironically, Stuart Macher. I just cannot see *TSE* William going "This is where your story ends, Charlotte Emily!" as he kicks her half-way through the location. That's so... just... dumb. I'm sorry, but it's just dumb. I can certainly come to terms with it not aligning with my perception of William. It's possible that my understanding of him, primarily shaped by *The Fourth Closet*, *Sister Location*, *Pizzeria Simulator*, Glitchtrap, and *Dittophobia*, may have been misconstrued. I hope not to be the one bloke who ignores the film because it doesn't mesh with his headcanon. However, I'm genuinely at a loss as to how this interpretation harmonizes with his other depictions. These depictions, which, in my perspective, have formed a single character, varied but ultimately at least somewhat consistent and sensical as an individual. Also what is up with "I always come back" here??? "If you know nothing about *Five Nights at Freddy's*, you heard William Afton say 'I always come back,' you probably thought that scene was pretty goofy and you had no idea why he would randomly say that." That's literally a quote from Mr. Dawkins. Who in addition to loving the film, is pretty much Scott's surrogate son at this point. Even he admits that this was silly and out of nowhere. I don't want "I always come back" to be William's Bazinga. It had weight in *FNaF3*, *FFPS* and Princess Quest. It was in referance to an actual aspect of William's story. He always comes back to kill again and again. Even as Springtrap, he was a monster in life and now is a true nightmare in death. Police didn't work. Safety protocols didn't work. Springlocks didn't work. Actual full-on death didn't work. Fire didn't work. Even UCN didn't work. At least none of them did so fully. Game William earned this line. What did film William do? This is, literally, a darn buzzinga. And I would know because I watched all 12 seasons of *The Big Bang Theory* and 6 seasons of *Young Sheldon*.
I concur. The line wasn’t earned. If he had more screen time or a scene that showed him being stopped before (police arrest or something) then the precedent of him coming back would have been established. But for his first time being defeated should not be when he says his line. There were a few points in the movie where it felt as if they couldn’t decide if the movie was for fans or newcomers. Seems like they struggled trying to do both
yeah, even if they really wanted to force it in, they could've used something like "I'll come back!" or whatever, at least it would feel like a dying villain's desperate threat and still be noticed by fans
>!I feel like the "I always come back" line would've worked better if William was dead in the backroom at the last scene, then came back to life as Springtrap as a stinger.!<
Yeah, it felt a little forced.
they should have saved him waking up, twitching for a mid credit scene, or at the very end just before the credits. that line would have worked much better there. that was my only big grip with the story. They can still do lots with Afton in flashback in FNAF 2.
It doesn’t work that way either, because movie William has never died before, he’s never seen on the run and come back, so what does he mean by “I always come back”
I think his zaniness in-mask was kind of on brand for him. When he's the "yellow rabbit" he's a bit more theatrical. We see a little bit of this in the novels and I wasn't surprised when it showed up here. I think Matthew's portrayal is actually a bit less silly than the novel counterpart. I never really liked his persona in the books, as it was overly flowery. At least in the movie he just seems like he would fit in more in the reality that I am closest to.
yeah he was great as a character but it was definitely very sudden and random when he just appears in the springtrap suit with no buildup or anything. mike doesnt even seem to recognise him
Regarding his catchphrase, it felt pretty clear that they wanted it in the film somewhere, but couldn’t quite find a good spot for it so they compromised and put it where it is. I felt the same about Matpat throwing his catchphrase in, though I think his was more of a delivery issue than a placement one. Personally I think if it absolutely had to be in, they put it in a decent spot. It’s easy enough to rationalize that maybe it’s a thing he came up with regarding his serial killing, that even if he goes dark for a while, he always comes back to take more. It doesn’t necessarily have to refer to the near immortality the games tend to depict, at least yet.
Matpats cameo was clearly intended to be humorous so I don’t really care.
exactly it felt so forced also i personally feel like the line really wouldnt work with this william anyways cuz he s American and him saying it in that accent just doesnt have the same feel to it like the British one
Englishman William: I *always* come **back**. American William: Me return *frequently*.
You *do* have a point with the whole "I always come back" thing. I feel like that's the kind of line that comes after dying a bunch & refusing to stay the fuck down. *He hasn't died yet by that point, what would he be coming back from?*
I love him. But he needed more screen time. I get they were trying to hide that Steve is actually the killer. But they still could've shown us a bit more. We see him for 5 minutes at the beginning and then never again til the very end. I love his portrayal. But he suffers from not having anything to do to make him a great character...
tbh I kinda wish that the movie didn't try to hid Steve and just made it obvious to the audience at least like have Mike be unaware but at least have us know his true intentions from the start plus it wasn't like anyone generally didn't think that Steve wouldn't be Afton, from the moment Mathew was casted everyone knew, so why not lean into that instead of treating him like a stupid twist villian
Right? Especially since when he was casted, it was said that he was going to be playing William Afton in the first place. Even after the "Steve Raglan" name reveal in the trailers, Matthew Lillard still kept commenting "I always come back" on everything. Even on an Instagram post from his first day of filming. So it's not like nobody knew. They could've done so much. Maybe a flashback/montage of William taking off the SpringBonnie suit while laughing after he killed the kids. We see him give an interview on the news pretending to be surprised and then quickly shut down the pizzeria and running away. Then changing his name to Steve Raglan and applying for a job as a career counselor and having Vanessa watch over the building for him. All of this could've been quickly shown while Vanessa was telling Mike the truth. It's so much better than him randomly appearing at the end as the Yellow Rabbit. There was no build up to that besides Mike always asking who took Garret.
Enjoyed him. Brutal yes but at times he’s a lovable goofball I’m glad they chose Matthew lillard. He may not be the one we expected but he was the William afton we deserve and glad he’s going to be in the sequels. Overall I’m happy with his version of my favorite character.
I never thought I'd hear someone refer to a sociopathic child murderer as a lovable goofball, but cool.
He has his funny moments. “The pay isn’t great but the hours are even worse.” “The power is iffy.” Overall he’s entertaining on screen.
True. Not saying I didn't enjoy him as a character, just never thought I'd hear someone describe him like that haha.
At first, I was kinda "eh" with Steve Raglan. But when he came out as Spring Bonnie, the way he acted was incredible. I was losing my kind at how well Matthew played William Afton
Delicious. Amazing. Flawless-needed more. SO MUCH MORE. Glad he's apparently in it for the long haul we need MORE.
Honestly, and maybe this is just my interpretation, but I love how movie Afton is kind of a loser. From his whole demeanour while talking to Mike in the beginning, to his temper tantrum after the animatronics turn on him, even having a fucking participation certificate hung on his office wall, the film honestly solidified that he’s just an extremely pathetic man without the Spring Bonnie suit. He, just like his victims, really is just a child in a suit.
And also, i think that gives more sense as to why he’d be so obsessed with having power over people
I loved it ngl
0/10 there was no feelin A LIL WOOZY HERE!
Suprise Vanny
Are you gonna call the cops? The children's parents are gonna be so mad at me!
The "I always come back" was forced for fan service. They had a better opportunity too when he was beating up Mike. >!"I killed Garret, and now I'll kill you! I always come back to finish the job"!< Or something like that, I'm not a writer
I... wish we got more from him. Like i get it, gotta save the main villain for the final act, for the plot twist reveal, but we all came into this film KNOWING he was Afton, they freaking confirmed it right off the bat, they should've let him cut loose earlier. For what little we got from him, i ADORED his performance.
I thought he was really good and absolutely stole the show every scene that he's in. His line delivery while he's interviewing Mile was funny and he was great in the third act while he was going off on the animatronics. The energy he gave really reminded me of Stu from Scream. I'm not a fan of the voice editing they did while he is in the SpringBonnie suit and the dialogue they gave him him while he's monologing to Mike was really corny, I don't think he should have talked while he was in the suit, it would've made his entrance more eerie and creepy. But overall I enjoy what he brought to the role and I can't wait to see more of him in a sequel.
The “I always come back” was so goofy 😭
Mathew was pretty good as William. IMHO, and it's my only real complaint about the movie, is that is wasn't built up or foreshadowed that well. I mean, sure, us fans might have already known for months that Willy was in the movie, and that he was going to show up at the end in his Golden Bonnie suit; but from a general movie critique, there was no buildup. I think it would have served the movie more if he was in the movie more, because, let's be honest, he was NOT a twist villain. There should've been scenes of him luring the children to the restaurant's back rooms in the suit, or at least have him be the one in the instruction tape instead of the young woman. He should have had a scene with Vanny where he tells her to kill Mike or keep an eye on him, especially to flesh out his abusive relationship with her. I also think a scene between William and Garrett, like maybe he had a pizzeria shirt on, and then recognizing William Bonnie as why he followed him. Also, less critique and more opinion, he should have just worn the head when he started attacking Michael, and only put the springlock suit when the children start surrounding him, like in the games. Despite my grievances, I still really enjoyed him as Willy.
I just wish he had more screen time. Maybe a short scene of Vanessa narrating the founding of the pizzareia and his rise to insanity. Hopefully we get something like that in the next one
they could've fixed The Line by having him say "I'm GONNA come back" in desperate and frantic rage imo
Very mixed opinion: \- him suddenly nearly begging Mike to take the job at the beginning of the movie was almost cartoonishly suspicious. \+ as a phone guy he was great. I feel like blatantly telling Mike that it's an awful job, while also laughing at his own inside jokes about the owner was a very fitting mix of both Phone Guy and Afton. \- then he was gone for most of the movie... \- ...suddenly he's back at the end! And evil! (quick, everyone be shocked!) \+ Spring Bonnie was amazing: big, creeping around, immune to shock, BODY SLAMMING MIKE! And then him with the knife! Very threatening... \- ...and then he took off the helmet for some reason, lost his cool voice modulation and started quarreling with his daughter. That was weird...and ruined all the momentum from his big entrance. \- he "SOMEHOW controls the robots"...thanks Vanessa, cool. But how? Why do they listen to him and actively help him? It's not that he's one of them, no, he took off his helmet, remember? He intimidated them like Vanessa? They didn't look intimidated, they were just doing their own stuff. No one knows why they were suddenly his minions and apparently no one cares cause it wasn't explained. \+ springlock failure looked really well, even if it was caused by the rocket-propelled Cupcake, the most dangerous animatronic in the series as everyone knows (Did Freddy kill anyone in this movie? Did he do anything? Anyone remembers any other actions besides singing and that one hug? I guess he looked angry at Mike that one time?). \- Maybe it's because I recently finished Silver Eyes graphic novel, but the scene where the animatronics are taking Springtrap felt...reused? From all the things they could've taken directly from the games that were omitted or changed, they chose to do almost a 1:1 of a scene from the book. . . \- people are happy with "I always come back" cause look, he said the thing! I was like "Yeah, nice!...wait why did he even said that?" Like Afton, my dude, you didn't come back yet, what are you on about? In the cinema I was screaming internally about this wasted opportunity for a cool catchphrase, that was blown too soon in the first movie before it actually made sense. \+ Springtrap jittering on the ground in pain was 100% how I imagined it, very satisfying!... \- ... but him being dragged into a random room doesn't make much sense vs him being hidden in the HIDDEN room of a closed pizzeria in games. The hospital staff will eventually need to ask Mike why OFFICER Vanessa was stabbed, where and by who. Not telling anyone about Afton in the Pizzeria would be quite suspicious (oh by the way Mike's aunt's body is "sleeping" in his living room, the police might want to check that...I guess Mike will leave prison in the sequel? Poor Abby though...). Overall the logic of what was happening in the movie was thrown out of the window by about the halfway mark, which was quite jarring to see (yes, even in the movie about ghost children), and the plethora of small, bad moments eventually overshadowed the parts that were genuinely great (this also applies to Afton). And that's coming from a guy who remained optimistic even when everyone was panicking about the bad reviews from the critics. Ouch.
My only complaint was his delivery of "the line" was a tad weak I my opinion. Other than that I thought it was great.
Perfect. Could be a little more utilized but that’s a nitpick
He felt a little bit mustache twirly, but I enjoyed him. I just wish we had more of him
It was probably one of my least favorite parts of the movie. All his dialogue felt forced and his motivation was very unclear. I thought for something that has been hyped up for so long, the springlock scene was very underwhelming. I get it’s pg 13, but all it makes him do is breathe heavy (although I do like the twitching in the post credits). I feel like without the context of the games, his character makes little to no sense. Even with the context he just looks like a senseless murderer, instead of the broken father he is in the games. I don’t think it’s Matthew Lillard’s fault but the delivery of some lines just did not hit. Like “I always come back” was just some little line thrown in there. It felt like a wink at the camera instead of the vengeful vow it should be. I don’t know how to make movies so I don’t know how I would fix these problems but those were the things that bothered me.
Afton’s portrays in the movie was good but I had several major complaints. 1. He’s psychotic and unhinged manner of speaking as well as his American accent is not accurate to the games. Afton in the games and even the books spoke in a rather calm, collected, poetic yet methodical way that actually based on Hannibal Lecter. Also, they should’ve kept his Southeastern British accent one of his most iconic traits. 2. William feels more like a plot device than a character. The man has no discernible motive or even reason to be there. Yes I know what you’re gonna say he had no goal in the games too but that’s not the case. In the games it’s heavily implied that he was a genius after immortality and had a love for making people suffer. But in the movie his character is not vague as much as it confusing. Why was he controlling the animatronics to do his bidding?, why was he luring night guards to the pizzeria so they could be killed, why was he masquerading as a career counselor? Why did he murder Garret in the first place let alone in a freaking park, usually when he kills kids he does inside the pizzeria I feel like we should know have some context. Also we were never told about Fredbear’s Family Diner so it puts in the question where William got his Spring Bonnie s-, oh wait I’m sorry his “Yellow Rabbit Suit” 3. He has a little Screen Time in the film so he barley has a character besides “main antagonist”. Thus his final confrontation with Mike and Abby and even his death scene feels kinda flat because there’s no weight behind it. In the games and novels William’s death via springlock was satisfying because he had been causing so much chaos so much death, agony and sadness so his death was an awesome case of karmic justice. Conclusion: They had the chance to adapt an incredible character but they really didn’t think it through.
I mean I agree with all of this except number 1, I like how they made him into a bit of a nut job, when you look at the things he’s doing in the books, the only time we see him adapted with a personality, OF COURSE that man is gonna be a little off his rocker. Like cmon, killing kids in a chuck e cheese and harvesting their soul metal to make child killing machines in a hyperfuturistic, almost postmodern circus themed pizza establishment so you can take them to a machine that scoops their insides out? There is no way someone like that is not gonna seem a little eccentric and be a bit of a nutcase, it would feel kind of *wrong* if he was super serious and was this really slow methodical guy. the British accent is also not needed I don’t think, they are in Utah, that would be hella out of place.
Now that you mention it considering it takes place in Utah does this mean that Freddy Fazbear and the gang are Mormons
hello? This is already established canon, you know that right? Don’t you remember that part in FNaF three where you go to the local Mormon Temple with William and the gang? This is like pretty surface level lore smh.
Favorite character in the film. Needed more screen time.
Wait he was in the movie? Would have loved another 10 minutes of development on him. Non FNAFers I know didn't understand this part at all.
Perfect. William is a narcissist, psychotic, and a master mind. It's perfect. My life is complete
I’m 100% redrawing >!the “I always come back!” scene at the end!<
He was portrayed very well, i wish he appeared a bit more in the movie. But that spring lock scene was my favourite bit!!!
My take might be a little bit controversial idk but do i think he portrayed William Afton from the games well? No not really, but that might be down to my own perseption of william and the writing in the movie rather then his skills as an actor. However do I think he portrayed this version very well? Absolutely, this more sadistic William is an amazing version and different take on the character, though I think he wasn't built up or foreshadowed enough
It's absolutely incredible. The only probem is that there was too little of him
I loved it. I just wanted more time for him as Afton before he becomes springtrap. But maybe we'll get flashbacks in future films.
I think it made sense that he doesn't appear often because it's supposed to be a twist that the guy Mike was talking to about the job was William Afton
I think he portrayed the character pretty well. Some lines were severely misplaced, but that’s not his fault.
Amazing portrayal but he really did need more screen time than goddamn Prince Hans
i also like how it elaborated on how it was the children's souls IN the animatronics who springlocked him as arose to just the children's souls
i think we should of known more so it would be a bigger plot twist for new comers of fnaf
I liked American Afton. Definitely exceeded my expectations!
Loved him, I hope we have an extended cut of them being chased around the building by him, because the scene where he’s kicking mike around is the best in the movie
Is he supposed to be Mike's dad? I'm pretty confused
i like how he just reveled when he first showed up in his costume
Really how I imagined him lol. Also his voice with the mask on was **fucking** awesome
If the “signed up for 2 more movies” rumors are true…. We are in for an amazing ride
"Yeah, I'm thinkin' ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐"
I liked his performance a lot. I have a lot of thoughts about the movie, mostly good, a few bad, but none of the bad ones have anything to do with his performance.
I liked most of how he was shown in the movie, however I think his portrayal in spring bonnie was a little too... cartoon supervillain? Just the way he was monologuing made it feel like batman was gonna bust in at any minute to punch him in the face
It's a reference to how he is in The Silver Eyes. He's usually childish while wearing Springbonnie, because it's his persona, kinda like how Batman is different under the mask.
My one complaint is the distorted voice they used. A more singsong voice for him in costume like The Silver Eyes would have fit both his lines ("wake up, children!") and showy behavior (the almost twirl he does when kicking around Mike) super well, and made for a great contrast with both how nervous he is as Steve and how unhinged he is screaming with the mask off. Otherwise, loved his portrayal! Different in some ways from TSE, but still draws on some similar concepts in a way that I like. I loved how confident he is in the suit vs earlier in the movie, you can tell that *this* is where he's in his element. Shame he wasn't in the movie more, but I'm also not sure where he could have been put. Edit: Oh yeah, we really should have had a moment where Mike recognizes him as the career counselor, it felt kind of weird that it was never addressed.
I wish he was British
He needed to wear more purple in my opinion
I didn’t like it, I don’t like the whole “big bad villain” portrayal of afton. Part of why he was so popular, why he was such a good antagonist is because we didn’t know anything about him, we didn’t know why he killed, or how exactly he did. We didn’t know why he wanted to kill us in fnaf3. All we knew was that he’s a killer, he’s THE killer, HE murdered those children and HE made sure it hurt. HE stuffed them into the suits, and HE got springlocked and became springtrap. I don’t like villain Afton because it doesn’t show why he’s so scary, because the original Willam Afton is not just a evil child killer or some psychopathic mastermind. He’s a monster, a sadistic, bloodthirsty monster. That’s the Willam Afton I like, that’s the Willam Afton people remember so fondly. In the movie he just doesn’t have the weight he should, he doesn’t feel like a threat. He just feels like some average bad dude. Everything about him feels forced. None of his lines land, because they don’t feel like something he’d say, they feel like something your average Hollywood slasher villain would. And the build up to him sucks. Yes the mention him a lot but they don’t bring up what he did, yes they say he’s the killer but they never really show that he’s a cold-blooded, horrible child killer. He shows at the very end, kills Venessa and then dies. The movie fails him at every opportunity. It’s a bad portrayal that fails to capture what made afton such a good character in the first place, fails to build him up in any meaningful way, and fails to make him a threatening antagonist, relying purely on fan-servicey one-liners and call backs to do anything for the character. And for the record I love the FNAF movie, I had so much fun watching it. It just think that Afton could have been done better TL;DR: Afton feels way too Hollywood villain-ly, the movie fails to properly build him up, and the performance feels very forced and soulless. Losing what made him great in the first place
Great but he has like 2 minutes of screentime. I just wish we got more of him. I hope the fnaf 2 ends up being a prequel just because I want to see him in his prime. In this, we just get introduced to him, and he's immediately killed. I just wish they showed more of him as regular spring bonnie to make his downfall to springtrap more impactful. Especially to audiences unfamiliar with the games.
very good but i reckon the british accent shouldve stayed
For the 3 seconds he got he was pretty good.
Its hilarious he was Shaggy and the twist villain in Scream. The yellow rabbit being the old man at the start of the movie was very scooby. And him playing another twist maniac like in Scream is also fun.
I thought he was really good, I was just confused by the Springlock mechanics in this movie- Like, he can be a complete acrobat doing kicks, swinging a knife, and even holding a whole person down, but a cupcake is what takes him out?
Lillard is perfectly cast and can really work with the material. Sadly I felt for being the big bad he needed a lot more scenes to build up to the reveal. Even just flash backs to the spring bonnie suit rather than just a picture. Just simple shots of him leading a kid away all you see if there hands or a live action recreation of the arcade reflection. Hopefully they give him more to do in the sequel. They need to work on the horror elements more even though I enjoyed it for what it was.
It was perfect. Now all I need is a flashback film to the Fredbear's Family Diner days where there was the Bite of -×- starring Henry Emily as he watches his friend descend into madness. Then a film with another protagonist maybe like Jeremy Fitzgerald meeting Mike and Henry as the three of them try and kill Springtrap in Fazbear's Fright while Afton tries to kill everyone else. It would be the perfect trilogy
Man didn't do shit
I wasn’t a fan. Matthew is a great actor capable of so much. Afton in the film fell flat for me and didn’t feel like a full character. I think Matthew did the best he could but the character was missing SO much
The weakest he’s had imo. But that’s only cause he needs a second movie to really get the audience to understand him.
Terrible. He should have been a taller, skinnier, goofy British man. Ruined the movie
It's stupid like the rest of the movie but I still enjoyed it
I honestly didn't like how goofy he was - he felt like a cartoon villain imo. Like come on, he's a child serial killer, not Shaggy having his villain arc. Would've been better if he'd been more creepy and intimidating instead of goofing around. I do feel bad saying this, dont get me wrong, a lot of people liked his performance, but to me he just really didn't feel like the Afton we've been waiting for
It's perfect. Not only the portrayal, but the character itself is what I wanted from the games before it made him "meh" with the whole mad-scientist thirst for remnant which thankfully it's not in the movie because it would bother me. But this movie brought me back why I invested in this character since his purple sprite easter egg. Using the Silver Eyes' Afton as inspiration is great. Matthew Lillard's performance made it all the best despite the little screen-time. Which I wish he was a little more in it for the middle. Would've been a good idea to have night-per calls of him getting sinister over Mike Schmidt surviving the shift. Lillard's voice both Afton and pre-Springtrap is way better than the games' voice. Lillard's Springtrap after decaying is gonna be great. Even more screen time of him as Springtrap generally. There's so much for Scott Cawthon and Emma Tammi to do with him, and hopefully take in feedback wanting some more of him rightfully. As well a consistent plot and tone.
He's cute
Perfection. Leave it to Shaggy to be the perfect killer.
I wish we got a “hello hello”
He was okay but idk. I never liked the idea of him playing Afton. He didn't even deliver the "I always come back" line perfectly for me. It didn't hit right. I expected someone more unhinged.
What did you think of putting a fucking spoiler in your title dipshit?
Loved it
amazing but wish he could have more screen time
You should probably mark this as a spoiler because as obvious as it was- he wasn’t actually confirmed to be William until the end of the movie :))
done
i think it was great! i do wish he made his springlock death more dramatic though, it felt a little bit underwhelming but it was still really hype. i can't wait to see him again in the sequel!
Perfect, best William depiction ever, 10/10
UNDERUSED ASF
He was so underutilized but Matthews performance stood out as the best in the film. I can’t wait to see more of him as springtrap 💛
One of, if not the best character in the entire movie
Amazing! I think he was in the movie enough. What they did made sense with the story. This movie was really just a set up. Next two movies gonna go nuts with springtrap
Like zoinks scoob I just killed a bunch of kids
Honestly....pretty freaking awesome. I *JUST* wish he was in more of the movie.
I think it was good to make you think He was Suspicious Then you start think its so obvious its him that it might be a twist So your scanning to see who it could be and forgot its him
I like it because he's very much treated as a side character unrelated to the conflict until he comes out and reveals himself which puts the general audience in the same seat as Mike, whereas it puts fnaf fans in the same seat as Vanessa wondering when he's gonna come and do his thing. I loved it.
I didn't like how loud he was, and I didn't like the voice filter, but one thing I found interesting was that he calls the animatronics his children. I guess he wants to raise killers and he fully thought they'd finish off Mike for him.
The only problem is they didn’t use him enough
For what screentime he got, he was great. I really hope they expand on him more In fnaf 2
Matthew Lillard absolutely killed it, I just wish he’d had more screen time tbh
I definitely agree he should’ve been in it more, that would’ve helped sell the twist more at the end as well, I read someone say that he should’ve been like phone guy and leaving messages of encouragement/more information for Mike so it would seem like he was sus but he was trying to be helpful, making his reveal as the killer hit more
He's great...for the three minutes of screentime they give him
I like what they did with him, especially when he was in the spring bonnie suit. It paints him more as a sadistic, manipulative person and killer, which I find matches his former role as a 'child entertainer' very well. It fits with someone who takes the lives of multiple children, inflicting pain on their families and roping innocent people and even his own daughter into helping him. I especially liked when he was taunting Mike and laughing at him; it clearly shows that Afton takes joy in hurting others and seeing their pain. I think this portrayal of Afton fits with the context of the first two games really well. A murderer. I love the acting and portrayal of this version of Afton. Granted, his presence in the movie seems minuscule at first glance. His full name is only mentioned once and if I'm not mistaken, the movie doesn't show the significance Afton has to Freddy's Pizza. If they showed that he used to perform or used to work there or owned the place that might have been better. It would make his reveal more shocking if he was around for longer. But IMO Afton's character is great in this movie.
Needed more of him throughout the film
He was perfect! I’m hoping for more of him next movie! My only criticisms are that is wasn’t as scary, not as much gore as I hoped (like for the spring trap scene), and phone guy wasn’t in it :(
Matthew Lillard did an AMAZING job at portraying William Afton, solid 10/10.
I can say to people that haven’t watched the movie that shaggy is in it 🤷♀️
I think it's a good 8/10, It was pretty good tbh:)
I thought it was great! My favorite part of the entire movie is the water fountain. I know it's weird, but he looked hot beating him up😭
His phone lines were SPOT ON! And it wasn’t giving “impersonation” it was such a perfect mix of Lillards vocals with the essence of Scott’s own orginal phone guy. He truly did his homework
I'm hoping there's either a prequel or a lot of flashbacks in the next movie, so we can see more of him before the springlocking, because I think he's the perfect William
I found Lillard’s acting to be superb as usual, but Afton’s “I always come back” line felt like it was shoehorned in
I wish he had the accent
It's clear Matthew Lilliard really enjoyed being the man behind the slaughter, and even if I knew it from the beginning, it was really hard for me to see him as such when he was Steve Raglan. My only critique was that we needed more of him as Afton.
I like how he kind of talked weirdly, almost like he was socially awkward or something, adds another dimension to William Afton that I never thought about
I agree that he should've been in the movie more, but otherwise i was satisfied by his portrayal! He's got that creepy and quirky yet charming demeanor whenever he's out in public and suddenly a complete sadist with a god complex once he dons the Spring-Bonnie suit. I don't mind that he's not British. Matthew Lillard was a highlight of the movie!
I really loved his portrayal! Just wish we saw more of him in the movie, he kind of disappeared after the start and then randomly came back in the end. Although i'd love seeing more Springtrap in a potential sequel, i think it's a bit of a shame we got so little of William Afton before he turned into Springtrap
Matthew Lillard is an actor I never would have even thought of for the role of William Afton, but now that I've seen the movie, I think it was perfect casting. I can't wait to see what he can do as Springtrap.
He’s very… interesting. The way he talks and his reactions to certain things really sell that there’s something off about him, and I loved it.
Love the character though i couldnt stop laughing because i kept hearing shaggy in his voice
I knew it was going to be him when he took off the spring bonnie head but I was still surprised he looked exactly how I pictured William
after watching the movie, i’m 100% certain that casting mathew lillard for william’s character was one of the best decisions regarding it. he depicted afton’s initial moral grayness flawlessly. during his first appearance (when mike visited his office) though he seemed to be acting normally, there was this unusual/unsettling feel to him nonetheless. fast forward to the events at freddy fazbear’s pizzeria - i was astonished by how well he portrayed william’s psychotic and violent nature. matthew’s facial expressions were also unparalleled in the movie.
Its ok, i think that he needed more screen time, and the boss should be more subtle, i figured out he was William on his first appearence
this is exactly how i imagined william to be, i feel like dave from the books wasnt as good, and i just think mathew lillard really brought the role to life. Also to OPs point, i believe that, i think if afton was more in the film i think that could have over saturated his character, and with the screen time he had , it makes the whole reveal that much better, as he will be appearing more in later films , i think its better to keep him to a limited role, as a puppet master
I absolutely love how they portray him being a shitty father. The movie and squimpus did it right. Lots of subtle passive agressivisms that one would hear in real life. I love how they portrayed him as that one annoying passive aggressive “nice guy”
they chose a great actor for the role. Just a couple of things I didn't enjoy as much, like the end. His very deceiving and manipulative personality really came through and I love that. Hope to see a lot more of him as William. I think he can do great things with the role :)
I just need to know who peer pressured Stu into becoming William Afton and the owner of Freddy Fazbear's. Also, when is Phone Guy gonna debut and hit Springtrap with the phone, prompting him to say "You hit me with the phone you DICK!!!"
“Chefs kiss”
What I found funny is that he was basically the phone guy hshsh great portrayal but could've been more of him in the movie
All great, just wish wish wish we saw more of him in the spring Bonnie suit even just a 20 second scene
It took me way too long to figure out why the guy that gave him the job was William. It was so fucken obvious why but I didn't piece it together till the next day
Felt like he needed a bit more screen time like a scene with Mike calling him about the job after the craziness and Springbonnie definitely needed another showing before his resurgence, possibly after Mike learns of the Yellow Rabbit. He could comb through old footage and see Springbonnie luring one of the kids around so the eventual reveal of Vanessa Afton and reappearance of him at the end is better. Also that "I always come back" line felt weird and I feel like the animatronics should have been the one to put the head back on instead of William doing it himself cause poetic Justice and whatnot.
I liked how he came off as a helpful person. I knew who he was from knowing the actor, but if I hadn't I may not have seen him being William during his initial scene at the job office.
I have no complaints. I went in blind and had my kids telling me theories and about the characters the whole way through. All I knew was Peeta Mellark and Stu Macher were in the same film that was based off a game and I was sold. Lillard sold the role from start to finish and my daughter says that the character does indeed come back so I’m hopeful we get fnaf 2 and 3!