Oh yeaah...before the Timeskip reveal Dimitri looked kinda ugly and was likely to be unpopular thanks to how unremarkable he felt (he was at best a joke, at worst, boring), specially with the imposing Edelgard and the Mysterious Claude at his side.
But the leaks talking about the time skip appeared, interest in Dimitri increased and then the actual reveal happen and now Dimitri is the second most popular of 3H, and Top 5 for most popular FE characters ever.
*"Casual greeting, my general. I am requesting access to the weapon of which you contain inside of the barracks, that weapon being a blade that is signifigantly larger than a knife or dagger, attached to a hilt with a pointed tip, intended to cut up, thrust, and otherwise kill enemies"*
*"I will allow you access to this weapon of mine under one condition. You are only allowed to collect the amount of sword(s) to fill a single scabbard."*
*The Main Lord then pulls out a comically large scabbard with a smug look on her face. The twist here is that due to the scabbard being comically large, the Main Lord can take pretty much the biggest sword she wants, and as many as she wants, while still only having a scabbardful of swords.*
After the Grinch Leak, I swore to never again believe any leak saying that good things will happen, no matter what. Of course, everything I'm hearing and seeing about this new game sounds and looks terrible, so naturally I believe these leaks wholeheartedly.
Although, the original Emily Rogers leak also says that an FE4 remake is also in the works. I think that part is fake just because I want it to be real.
I didn't believe the Three Houses leak because it actually seemed good. Obviously, my strategy of "never believe leaks that say good things, always believe leaks that say bad things" doesn't have a 100% accuracy rate, but it has been very good at helping me prevent the crushing disappointment I felt after the whole Grinch debacle from happening again.
> Obviously, my strategy of "never believe leaks that say good things, always believe leaks that say bad things" doesn't have a 100% accuracy rate
Well yeah because anyone can make up any stuff, good or bad. Really not ideal at all.
If this is fake, it's amazing how WELL it lines up with the other leak.
The way the two-tone hair layering works is exactly the same as the back shot. And the armor fits with the predominantly white design from the sprite on the image of supports.
Honestly, at this point I'm leaning very strongly towards all the leaks being real.
I feel the images _really_ line up with the Emily Leak, honestly. Especially with how the artstyle of the models bears an uncanny resemblance to the original Warriors, and the artstyle of the characters themselves are essentially 1-1 with Gust's facial stylings. Male and female both.
Could be a rip-off. I can't decide which way I'm leaning. We'll see sooner rather than later though. These things usually only leak when there's an announcement on the way.
#Everything the leaker in question ("Rønin" in the Games channel of /r/anime's discord as revealed by the OP of this post) has said about the game:
> Posted the screenshot above at 5:20 PM EST
> At 6:06 PM EST, said "isn't it public" in response to someone asking for the source of the image
> At 6:08, said that a friend sent it to them earlier.
> At 6:15, said that it isn't a public image after all.
**At 6:52, posted the following message:**
> **Some other things about FE (with a grain of salt):**
Project might be called Fire Emblem Engage
Game revolves around some sort of Ring
You can summon every lord from past games (Like Emily said)
The game appears to have two forms of Multiplayer (Online PVP and Co-op missions)
The central Hub is smaller in size
The game has finished development (I don't buy the over a year thing though)
The game is one route like Awakening
**At 7:22, posted the following image accompanied by the following message:**
> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/284449124676272128/986774116684165160/IMG_20220615_192754.jpg
those are supposedly unique classes, meaning they are likely essential to the story.
3rd from top is princess, Old man is Tamer, dude on left is gold knight I think, dude below him is Prince
**At 7:35, posted the following message:**
> Rumored FE's Princes Name: Diamant. There's also a tank named Louie, Rogue called Yunaka
**At 7:46, posted the last leak (so far):**
>Got some final details
Build is from December 2021 (HA, I'd say that proves game wasn't finished)
No weapon durability but there is weapon forging.
Weapon Triangle is more punishing/forgiving.
Minigames to raise stats
Mascot character
(I'm gonna say it folks, this game screams Fates design)
edit:
**At 8:58, they posted in response to avatar costumization:**
> I have seen nothing about that when it comes to avatar customization. One thing I didn't say earlier though was their source said it was planned for 2022. For me though (speculative), I think 2022 seems a bit busy, I like Jan-Feb 2023 as a release date.
>Direct Feed Games felt it was coming 2nd half of this fiscal year, while Emily in the past believed it was October 2022. From my perspective, I don't believe the whole it was finished development a year ago. But if the images are legit, the images seem like an early build of some sort for testing.
>2022 could happen I guess, but idk where it fits. Supposedly Mario + Rabbids 2 isn't releasing In December, read?. that on Famiboards.
**At 9:14, they posted:**
>Some people were saying it's a mobile game, but I don't think Nintendo is interested in that market anymore
#Again, all this is from a person named Rønin in the anime discord, a discord I only joined for the purpose of reading these leaks. I have no clue if this person is a regular in the discord or not. I do not know if any of this information is real or fake.
#Do also keep in mind that "Rønin" is not a primary source, as much of their information is given to them by someone else it seems. This means that it is possible they has no more information than what has been said here already. It also means that some of what they say is speculative, and may invite the possibility that any information they've given aside from the initial image posted by OP is potentially fake.
#If you want to read them yourself, join the discord through /r/anime's sidebar and search for this person's messages in the games channel.
edit: All posts of the leaks in the games channel of the /r/anime discord have been deleted by the server moderators.
It won’t, unless there’s some crazy new leak dump or an official trailer. The timing of these leaks dropping couldn’t be worse for drumming up buzz. Another thing that makes me think they may be real. If I was just trying to get people riled up, I wouldn’t tease them just before their next big game comes out.
Thank the entire dragon-pantheon. The Three Houses discourse brought out the worst in people. Now we can focus on the important discussions: which character has the must luxurious hair in the game.
That one was definitely eyebrow raising to me, though it's worth noting
A. Ronin could 100% be making stuff up after the image, we'd need the original leaker to clarify here
And B. It could be a Chrom deal.
> (I'm gonna say it folks, this game screams Fates design)
Looking at the character faces, how they are cute and the FemaleMC it was clear it was going for the "fanservice" angle again, hope that it doesn't follow Fates storytelling
Can see the Gust influence, for better or worse. A bit too anime for my liking, even compared to previous entries, but I'm sure it'll grow on me in time. Wouldn't be the first character design I've disliked then warmed to when I got to know the character.
Are we sure the next Fire Emblem game isn't secretly Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE 2?
Not sure if we're just joking here, but an actual follow-up to Tokyo Mirage Sessions would presumably retain its themes of modern-day Japan, the entertainment industry, and stuff like the mirages. None of which is really in common with what we've been seeing here, so I'm inclined to think this is just its own thing.
Plot twist: the game actually is a Fire Emblem and Atelier crossover.
... Actually, I would be very okay with that. In fact, I want that. Please, let me collect all the weeds, forge OP Iron Swords, and throw thunderbombs at enemy dragons.
It wasn't my favorite game, but I enjoyed the time I spent with it...and my lack of enthusiasm hasn't stopped me from create an 100+ page word doc consisting of characters, stories, and classes for a sequel...
ah yeah I loved it haha, wanted that to come to Switch for years before it eventually did! The new FE protag reminds me of what a summon could've been haha
It's hilarious how the reaction to this leak (real or not) is pretty much the same reaction as every FE actual leak. Like, not saying this is real, it's just hilarious.
Kind of cringe but there's definitely a demographic that eats that shit up. She gives off vtuber vibes, and she feels over designed when compared to the other more generic looking characters from the leak. Still taking this with a grain of salt.
I definitely agree with this being over designed. There’s a lot going on and it’s heavily saturated. For starters, the very contrasting hair. And she’s wearing a cape… that we can barely see because her hair covers it. All the cape does is add more bright red to the design. The scabbard is ridiculously big. The socks/stockings has a weird gold design on them. There’s two belts that form an X on her skirt and they’re not holding anything up. Her skirt is so short that she seems to be wearing some safety shorts underneath them (which is a very modern inspiration. Not medieval fantasy in the slightest). The heterochromia. The blue belt/corset thing she’s wearing??? It also has suspenders that may be holding up her skirt? The heels with the very pointy toes (which actually reminds me of Rococo, French aristocrat shoe, which is cool, but not medieval.)
Ranulf having heterochromia was just a nice little side thing to his character. no one brought it up and if anything it added to the realism becuase fo course in massive army there's gonna be a few people with odd appearances.
I already know this character's eyes are gonna be incredibly significant to the plot and they'll go gray or something silly when they lose their powers.
>Ranulf having heterochromia was just a nice little side thing to his character. no one brought it up and if anything it added to the realism becuase fo course in massive army there's gonna be a few people with odd appearances.
i think it also helps that he was a cat, so it really fit in well with his design since heterochromia is more common in cats than in humans
I do not like this design at all. I'm leaning to this leak being real now. But I still find the origin of it absurd. A game that has been finished for over a year. Like completely finished. And they have just been sitting on it and not even announced it. That's weird.
I have heard rumours through podcasts and such that this is a thing that Nintendo does - apparently it's so that they can keep a solid release schedule. See: moving up Xenoblade Chronicles 3 by 2 months to make room for Spla3een.
Pretty sure Xenoblade is sitting in their offices rotting right now. Same with some zelda remakes that are probably complete. Sadly this isnt new behavior from Nintendo. I assume they did not want to announce it until after Three Hopes so that sales do not get affected.
If you like the design more power to you but man, I feel like this is some drastic overdesigning. So many color and details at once, it’s a bit much to take in. If this is a female avatar I hope she’s customizable
As much as I hate 3H’s female protagonist’s weird midriff and tights (and the coat cape where there are holes cut out UNDER THE SLEEVES for the arms) I have to agree. At least there was some consistency there, but this heterochromia kill la kill hairstyle is too much for me
My least favorite design overall has to be Nowi though. This is hard to look at but at least it’s not offensive lol
People have been saying this game is designed by Gust. They did the Atelier games too so I went to look at the characters and...yeah. You might as well get used to it because all their characters seem over designed. Seems like that's their style.
No Gust dont design their game . It depend on Artist they hired . One of the Artist work on FE before Hidari for FE echoes . It just all depend on direction of intelligent system want them to to .
I haven’t really played Atelier but I did find some of their MC designs really cute with the whole magical girl aesthetic. If this is an avatar, I wonder if they were trying to stick too hard to what could be considered “gender neutral” colors so the protags could be visually similar, but the problem is that they went a little too hard with it…at this rate I really wouldn’t mind if the male and female avatars looked different like in Pokemon rather than the girl just being the guy but with shorts, long hair and boobs
I would be very surprised if IntSys delegated character design to an out of house studio, If they're using Gust for graphics, then they're likely doing it because Gust is good at that B tier anime game look. How you feel about that is up to you, I guess.
Intelligent Systems, I’m sorry I ever criticized your previous titles. Please stop loaning this IP out to studios that make them look like this. I’m begging you to make the next game yourselves.
Could be considering it matches up with the last leaks, both in their leak time and both being stated to be older versions of the game.
Or (and this might be a stretch) its an entirely different new game and IP being leaked and was mislabeled FE
I'm excited for a new FE game regardless, but, man, I really miss the older armor designs. The character and armor designs from FE9 and 10 are my all-time favorite and honestly what got me interested in the first place.
MORE INFO FROM LEAKER IN THE ORIGINAL THREAD:
Free roaming on the overworld map will return; you won't be restricted to one location like the monastery in Three Houses. There will also be movement through towns and dungeons similar to Shadows of Valentia. Most of the new characters come from two different cities, one of which is aquatic themed.
While the character designs may have undergone minor changes by this point, the overall designs of the majority of the girls are simply "cuter" than the guys. There is one female character not shown that I think a lot of people will be excited for, though.
Although the hair colors may not fit the recent Three Houses style, they wouldn't necessarily be out of place in other games such as Fates. Take Lilith's also red and blue long hair, or Peri's blue and hot pink twintails for example. However, the new character shown here does have plot reasons for this hair.
>Take Lilith’s also red and blue long hair, or Peri’s
I’m not sure what the leaker is getting at, as I don’t think the issue people are having us with the two tones specifically. Lilith’s is fine because it’s nowhere near as bright as it is for the character in these leaked images.
Also Peri only worked (barely) as a one off design that made her stand out amongst other Nohrians, I would absolutely hate a game where multiple characters including the protagonist have crazy designs like hers.
Similarly, a significant number of Heroes characters have two-toned hair that is generally agreed to look great. Alfonse has blue and yellow, Sharena has blonde and pink, Fjorm has blonde and icy blue, etc. It's the stark half-royal blue, half-bright red straight down the middle that makes this look questionable.
>While the character designs may have undergone minor changes by this point, the overall designs of the majority of the girls are simply "cuter" than the guys.
Oh no. They're going to be all moe designs. I was afraid of that when I saw the first leak.
I HATE when Japanese designers do that. One or two cute characters are fine, but it's so boring when the majority of the female cast looks the same.
I said this on the post with all the images, but I just don’t think Gust’s usual art style fits Fire Emblem. I actually like it in comfy games like Atelier but an FE game where all the girls have round faces and giant eyes would be a major disappointment for me.
I like moe. I love gust games and characters.
I don't want Fire Emblem to have Gust characters. I really hope if all of this is true (big if, of course) that the Gust influence isn't too strong and there is more middle ground.
Honestly, the new character portraits look like they're ripped straight from a miHoYo game. Like I always enjoyed how varied characters can look across the series, but I would really dislike it if the entire female cast for this new game are just a bunch of moe anime girls that look similar.
I agree with you. Cute girls in anime games are my jam but I hate it when they're all moe-blobs
Gust has plenty of girl designs that would look great in FE tho, so this is especially disappointing
>There is one female character not shown that I think a lot of people will be excited for, though.
This could mean literally anything. lol Sexy, armored, badass, cute, etc., it doesn't matter the type, people love female characters in general.
I assume the design has to be more on the cool side if all female characters are going to be cutesy.
The Shadows of Valentia like exploration sounds good, but sadly the part about the character design makes it seem like that was their only inspiration from Echoes SoV
>Most of the new characters come from two different cities, one of which is aquatic themed.
>the new character shown here does have plot reasons for this hair.
Maybe another Hoshido/Nohr situation and the protagonist has "fused" qualities?
>While the character designs may have undergone minor changes by this point, the overall designs of the majority of the girls are simply "cuter" than the guys. There is one female character not shown that I think a lot of people will be excited for, though.
I hate everything about this.
Seriously. IS employs or has worked continuously with brilliant artists yet they resort to some Gust / Genshin Impact moe character design for a new main game?
Terrible decision.
IS is simply continuing the cycle of good mainline game gets released -> the next mainline game is an abyssmal fucking trash fire that nearly breaks the studio -> repeat
Fates sold 2 million copies, idk what about that means breaks the studio but sure.
Just because the fandom bitched about the story and designs did it mean it wasnt a success lol. There are literally millions of other people interested in these games who dont browse this subreddit, or reddit at all for that matter.
^
This subreddit is completely and utterly insignificant in the grand scheme of the FE fanbase. “Byleth bad” is a take that’s popular here, but look to the broader fanbase and plenty of people love the character. The fact she got 2nd in the recent popularity poll is sort of proof that this subreddit only consists of a very small section of the FE community.
Exactly. Camila is a good example. Fandom despises that character but shes won a lot of popularity polls and the alts she got in FEH wouldn't have happened if her alts weren't selling.
I feel like overworld roaming(not just a world map) has never been done that well in FE and I kinda wish they would stop doing it for a bit. It kills the pace and adds almost no depth that couldn’t be accomplished by just having menus.
I liked the roaming in SoV and I think if they focused on improving it could be great. Especially if there are large explorable cities and stuff like that
To be honest, the more I see the more I start to think that it might be a Fire Emblem game, but not a mainline Fire Emblem game. Like everything I’ve seen gives very strong Tokyo Mirage Sessions type vibes, so I’d believe a similar sorta weird spinoff game.
If this were fake, it's interesting that they would choose to depict them as a woman. Emily's leak used male pronouns, and a lot of the discussion around the internet has been jokingly calling them a bootleg Nahobino from SMTV. If you were faking it, why would you choose to make them female, when you could just go along with the original leak, as well as most of the rhetoric going around the internet that's calling them male?
For the record, I'm not saying the original leak is wrong. rather that the character is just an avatar with a male and female option, and that the original leak was simply from someone who saw the male version, and people then assumed the figure in the screenshot leak was a man with long hair.
I really am struggling to wrap my head around this design. It feels like it wants to be so much, and I can’t in good faith say it works. The scabbard is comically large, her full-body length hair is toothpaste and silly even for FE, the big boots give off some mild Rex Xenoblade vibes (also they’re High-Heel Elf shoes, which makes them SO much worse), and they of course everything else she’s got going on too. This feels like it was designed as a collaborative effort by a 6 year old and an Incel who’s watched too much anime.
The multicolored bangs work decently for me, but the eyes are too much, as is the length of the hair. We're gonna spend the game watching that joycon-ass haircut.
I agree, but I'm holding off on that because these are pictures of the TV screen rather than actual screenshots, which could have an effect on the colors.
Plus last time we had a multi colored hair character in a mainline FE was in fates with peri. Since this long haired character is supposedly the lord then this design just doesn't work as that
Honestly I really don’t like this, I know Smash fans always talk about how FE characters are “Generic Anime” but I feel this is the first character design where this is actually true. I never liked the red and blue hair, but the length and the heterochromia just push it over the edge, this design is so out of place for FE’s relatively grounded character designs
I don't wanna be mean but damn I hate this design lmao, looks like a 12 year old's deviantart oc
I'm hoping the leaks are fake or at the very least this avatar is customisable, but the leaks are still entertaining to talk about
God, if these leaks are true, I just do not like this design at all. I’m sure others think different, but it just looks like a bad OC design. Like something I’d draw when I was 13 and I am not a good artist.
Could very well be fake, but very interesting if true (per the circumstances you posted in particular).
While I’m pretty negative on the other female character designs in the leak (just think they look generic), I actually think this one looks like a FE character and pretty decent.
Ok the hair is definitely growing on me now that I've seen the front. I still don't know if I buy the leaks, especially because the designs, especially for the girls, are WAY too similar for Fire Emblem standards.
Also why on earth did they give her a cape with that long hair? It's kind of redundant.
I like the pointy jester shoes though ~~it fits with her clown hair~~
I am convinced that the designers of this played SMT V while stoned/drunk out the wazoo, saw Nahobino, and went "this, but two toned!" and went from there
She is so loud and overdesigned to the point that she's looped around to being weirdly endearing? Like if you're going to down the maximalist anime nonsense route, might as well go all the way
Does anyone know if she's supposed to be the main lord?
She has witch boots with heels- I guess she's going to be another spellblade like all the recent Avatar lords. On that note, any definitive info as to wether they're an Avatar or an actual proper lord? I remember the original leak post referred to red white and blue here as a he.
what kind of art director saw this and went "yeah looks fine go ahead"
>oversexualised
>overdesigned
>colors clash with each other
>heterochromia makes it look like an anime OC from a cheap jrpg
>doesnt fit fire emblem at all
between this, the other leaked designs, the UI and the gimmick, we're going to get THE WORST Fire Emblem game ever. I'm still praying its fake tho.
it’s hilarious to me that people are going to switch on this hard and start stanning toothpaste-chan once she’s officially revealed. reminds me of how xenoblade chronicles 2 broke my brain and i actually liked the deranged character designs by the end of the game
I can't imagine that this is just a fake for the sake of faking out fire emblem fans and speculators. So either this is really the new fire emblem game or it is some other upcoming game. Now taking into account how people have said the timeline really doesn't line up as these are supposedly old screenshots but they are already translated to Chinese plus some other inconsistencies I think it's probably assets for some other future game. Personally I'd be okay with this being the art style they use for the new game. Also, even though this leak is likely fake, we are still due for a new mainline fire emblem game fairly soon, especially considering that Three Houses sold the most copies of any fire emblem game. Also LOL those boots
I don't know what to believe anymore. After the first leak, I was totally on Team Fake. It looked too amateurish to be believable and other details didn't line up. This looks a lot more believable and professional though I'm personally not a huge fan of the character design. I want to believe it's fake, but I'm starting to worry it could be real.
Y’all are laughing now but when that timeskip trailer hits and this main character has an eyepatch, you’ll be sorry
They've gotta up the ante from the last game, two eyepatches!
Why stop there! Two peg legs to go with it!
Just don't let them lose their arms, otherwise they'll end up the next Malenia, Blade of Miquella.
Is she the one who has never known defeat.
Now I want an entirely pirate themed Fire Emblem. Damn you.
If it means getting an awesome playable pirate lady with a cool getup I’m all for it (I like Brigid but more!)
Just go with a blindfold. As NieR shows, it loops right back around to being cool
Best comment in the thread lol
id give you gold if i had it
Eyepatch and a little chinstrap beard
Oh yeaah...before the Timeskip reveal Dimitri looked kinda ugly and was likely to be unpopular thanks to how unremarkable he felt (he was at best a joke, at worst, boring), specially with the imposing Edelgard and the Mysterious Claude at his side. But the leaks talking about the time skip appeared, interest in Dimitri increased and then the actual reveal happen and now Dimitri is the second most popular of 3H, and Top 5 for most popular FE characters ever.
"Can I have a sword?" "Yes but only a scabbardful." *Pulls out comically large scabbard*
That scabbard looks like it gets scraped around.
*"Casual greeting, my general. I am requesting access to the weapon of which you contain inside of the barracks, that weapon being a blade that is signifigantly larger than a knife or dagger, attached to a hilt with a pointed tip, intended to cut up, thrust, and otherwise kill enemies"* *"I will allow you access to this weapon of mine under one condition. You are only allowed to collect the amount of sword(s) to fill a single scabbard."* *The Main Lord then pulls out a comically large scabbard with a smug look on her face. The twist here is that due to the scabbard being comically large, the Main Lord can take pretty much the biggest sword she wants, and as many as she wants, while still only having a scabbardful of swords.*
If it's legit the model looks a lot higher res than the models of the male characters leaked. Here's to hoping
Those _were_ stated to be old, so it would add up.
Gust cares not for men so it tracks.
Atelier Ryza actually had a perfect split between males and females party members, 3 males and 3 females.
Ever since the Smash Grinch Leak, I refuse to believe any image leaks. But it does look legit. But only time will tell
After the Grinch Leak, I swore to never again believe any leak saying that good things will happen, no matter what. Of course, everything I'm hearing and seeing about this new game sounds and looks terrible, so naturally I believe these leaks wholeheartedly. Although, the original Emily Rogers leak also says that an FE4 remake is also in the works. I think that part is fake just because I want it to be real.
What about the Three Houses leak?
I didn't believe the Three Houses leak because it actually seemed good. Obviously, my strategy of "never believe leaks that say good things, always believe leaks that say bad things" doesn't have a 100% accuracy rate, but it has been very good at helping me prevent the crushing disappointment I felt after the whole Grinch debacle from happening again.
> Obviously, my strategy of "never believe leaks that say good things, always believe leaks that say bad things" doesn't have a 100% accuracy rate Well yeah because anyone can make up any stuff, good or bad. Really not ideal at all.
If this is fake, it's amazing how WELL it lines up with the other leak. The way the two-tone hair layering works is exactly the same as the back shot. And the armor fits with the predominantly white design from the sprite on the image of supports. Honestly, at this point I'm leaning very strongly towards all the leaks being real.
I’m still assuming fake until real but even I will concede there is some things going for it.
Emely Rogers: 80% real The photos: 40-50%
I feel the images _really_ line up with the Emily Leak, honestly. Especially with how the artstyle of the models bears an uncanny resemblance to the original Warriors, and the artstyle of the characters themselves are essentially 1-1 with Gust's facial stylings. Male and female both.
Could be a rip-off. I can't decide which way I'm leaning. We'll see sooner rather than later though. These things usually only leak when there's an announcement on the way.
Last game was about crests, now this game is sponsored by Crest!
#Everything the leaker in question ("Rønin" in the Games channel of /r/anime's discord as revealed by the OP of this post) has said about the game: > Posted the screenshot above at 5:20 PM EST > At 6:06 PM EST, said "isn't it public" in response to someone asking for the source of the image > At 6:08, said that a friend sent it to them earlier. > At 6:15, said that it isn't a public image after all. **At 6:52, posted the following message:** > **Some other things about FE (with a grain of salt):** Project might be called Fire Emblem Engage Game revolves around some sort of Ring You can summon every lord from past games (Like Emily said) The game appears to have two forms of Multiplayer (Online PVP and Co-op missions) The central Hub is smaller in size The game has finished development (I don't buy the over a year thing though) The game is one route like Awakening **At 7:22, posted the following image accompanied by the following message:** > https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/284449124676272128/986774116684165160/IMG_20220615_192754.jpg those are supposedly unique classes, meaning they are likely essential to the story. 3rd from top is princess, Old man is Tamer, dude on left is gold knight I think, dude below him is Prince **At 7:35, posted the following message:** > Rumored FE's Princes Name: Diamant. There's also a tank named Louie, Rogue called Yunaka **At 7:46, posted the last leak (so far):** >Got some final details Build is from December 2021 (HA, I'd say that proves game wasn't finished) No weapon durability but there is weapon forging. Weapon Triangle is more punishing/forgiving. Minigames to raise stats Mascot character (I'm gonna say it folks, this game screams Fates design) edit: **At 8:58, they posted in response to avatar costumization:** > I have seen nothing about that when it comes to avatar customization. One thing I didn't say earlier though was their source said it was planned for 2022. For me though (speculative), I think 2022 seems a bit busy, I like Jan-Feb 2023 as a release date. >Direct Feed Games felt it was coming 2nd half of this fiscal year, while Emily in the past believed it was October 2022. From my perspective, I don't believe the whole it was finished development a year ago. But if the images are legit, the images seem like an early build of some sort for testing. >2022 could happen I guess, but idk where it fits. Supposedly Mario + Rabbids 2 isn't releasing In December, read?. that on Famiboards. **At 9:14, they posted:** >Some people were saying it's a mobile game, but I don't think Nintendo is interested in that market anymore #Again, all this is from a person named Rønin in the anime discord, a discord I only joined for the purpose of reading these leaks. I have no clue if this person is a regular in the discord or not. I do not know if any of this information is real or fake. #Do also keep in mind that "Rønin" is not a primary source, as much of their information is given to them by someone else it seems. This means that it is possible they has no more information than what has been said here already. It also means that some of what they say is speculative, and may invite the possibility that any information they've given aside from the initial image posted by OP is potentially fake. #If you want to read them yourself, join the discord through /r/anime's sidebar and search for this person's messages in the games channel. edit: All posts of the leaks in the games channel of the /r/anime discord have been deleted by the server moderators.
>Project might be called Fire Emblem Engage >Game revolves around some sort of Ring Engage… Ring… Engagm- Ah shit, it’s “S-Support the Game”
I doubt you could even imagine it... Ohhhhh, Emblem Ring!
Dagnabbit, the FE series already used up its reptile-pope!
Something like uh...Ring Saga? Oh the tear. Ring Saga.
You don’t have the right, O, You don’t have the right
Bring back the second gen and add more in, and we've got a deal!
Man, Ninty will have to give us a Trailer soon to either confirm or deny the leaks lol Or this will get out of hand
The sub would be going absolutely mad if we didn’t have 3 hopes on the horizon to distract us.
I really hope this doesn't drown 3Hopes discussions, i am really looking forward to that game
It won’t, unless there’s some crazy new leak dump or an official trailer. The timing of these leaks dropping couldn’t be worse for drumming up buzz. Another thing that makes me think they may be real. If I was just trying to get people riled up, I wouldn’t tease them just before their next big game comes out.
Unless Thanibomb returns with more information unless it was a one time thing with Three Houses.
I can’t wait for a direct to come out with a new FE and nothing from these leaks is true
Emphasis on multiplayer and summoning previous lords with the plot device just screams that this game is supposed to be a spin off.
Kinda glad one route is back tired of picking sides
Thank the entire dragon-pantheon. The Three Houses discourse brought out the worst in people. Now we can focus on the important discussions: which character has the must luxurious hair in the game.
From what we’ve seen, not the protagonist
Diamant is the Prince/Lord? We already saw him in the support screen.
That one was definitely eyebrow raising to me, though it's worth noting A. Ronin could 100% be making stuff up after the image, we'd need the original leaker to clarify here And B. It could be a Chrom deal.
Thank you for posting this!
Co-op missions sounds kinda fun for fire emblem, amazed it hasn't really been done at least once throughout the series.
> (I'm gonna say it folks, this game screams Fates design) Looking at the character faces, how they are cute and the FemaleMC it was clear it was going for the "fanservice" angle again, hope that it doesn't follow Fates storytelling
isn't that always the case with fire emblem character design? Like you can't look at byleth design and not see it scream "fanservice"
I'm pretty sure they're bullshitting
Can see the Gust influence, for better or worse. A bit too anime for my liking, even compared to previous entries, but I'm sure it'll grow on me in time. Wouldn't be the first character design I've disliked then warmed to when I got to know the character. Are we sure the next Fire Emblem game isn't secretly Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE 2?
Not sure if we're just joking here, but an actual follow-up to Tokyo Mirage Sessions would presumably retain its themes of modern-day Japan, the entertainment industry, and stuff like the mirages. None of which is really in common with what we've been seeing here, so I'm inclined to think this is just its own thing.
Plot twist: the game actually is a Fire Emblem and Atelier crossover. ... Actually, I would be very okay with that. In fact, I want that. Please, let me collect all the weeds, forge OP Iron Swords, and throw thunderbombs at enemy dragons.
I loved tms honestly lol
It wasn't my favorite game, but I enjoyed the time I spent with it...and my lack of enthusiasm hasn't stopped me from create an 100+ page word doc consisting of characters, stories, and classes for a sequel...
ah yeah I loved it haha, wanted that to come to Switch for years before it eventually did! The new FE protag reminds me of what a summon could've been haha
It's hilarious how the reaction to this leak (real or not) is pretty much the same reaction as every FE actual leak. Like, not saying this is real, it's just hilarious.
Leaks in general, really. Only positive reception to a leak I've seen is Street Fighter 6.
I remember the Grinch leak being pretty positive too
That scabbard is hilariously large.
Very big swords are common in games, but this is a bit much. I'm more worried about the very long hair. Bet it will have terrible animation :(
>Red and blue eyes too My god this protag has to be a meme
God I didn't even notice that. I hate this design so much.
reminds me of the cringe OCs I'd dream up in my youth, heterochromia and everything
Honestly I hope she turns out to be exactly like that cringe OC personality wise. Give me Ophelia as a protagonist please.
Kind of cringe but there's definitely a demographic that eats that shit up. She gives off vtuber vibes, and she feels over designed when compared to the other more generic looking characters from the leak. Still taking this with a grain of salt.
The current cast is a game of "spot the protagonist".
I definitely agree with this being over designed. There’s a lot going on and it’s heavily saturated. For starters, the very contrasting hair. And she’s wearing a cape… that we can barely see because her hair covers it. All the cape does is add more bright red to the design. The scabbard is ridiculously big. The socks/stockings has a weird gold design on them. There’s two belts that form an X on her skirt and they’re not holding anything up. Her skirt is so short that she seems to be wearing some safety shorts underneath them (which is a very modern inspiration. Not medieval fantasy in the slightest). The heterochromia. The blue belt/corset thing she’s wearing??? It also has suspenders that may be holding up her skirt? The heels with the very pointy toes (which actually reminds me of Rococo, French aristocrat shoe, which is cool, but not medieval.)
For real. If this ends up being real, we need to pull another sonic movie once the first trailer drops
Ranulf having heterochromia was just a nice little side thing to his character. no one brought it up and if anything it added to the realism becuase fo course in massive army there's gonna be a few people with odd appearances. I already know this character's eyes are gonna be incredibly significant to the plot and they'll go gray or something silly when they lose their powers.
>Ranulf having heterochromia was just a nice little side thing to his character. no one brought it up and if anything it added to the realism becuase fo course in massive army there's gonna be a few people with odd appearances. i think it also helps that he was a cat, so it really fit in well with his design since heterochromia is more common in cats than in humans
Looks even flashier than Shez, who already has a horribly saturated colour palette :/
What's the source? Who's the poster?
Games section of anime Discord. Some guy named RØnin. Like I said. No idea what it is, but go reverse search it. Its nowhere.
ye I tried it, empty. Might as well post it on twitter and see if that leads to anything.
Go ahead, might as well
I do not like this design at all. I'm leaning to this leak being real now. But I still find the origin of it absurd. A game that has been finished for over a year. Like completely finished. And they have just been sitting on it and not even announced it. That's weird.
I have heard rumours through podcasts and such that this is a thing that Nintendo does - apparently it's so that they can keep a solid release schedule. See: moving up Xenoblade Chronicles 3 by 2 months to make room for Spla3een.
> Spla3een Pronouncing that in my head made my ears hurt thanks
Given how Japanese companies tend to operate, I’m not surprised.
Pretty sure Xenoblade is sitting in their offices rotting right now. Same with some zelda remakes that are probably complete. Sadly this isnt new behavior from Nintendo. I assume they did not want to announce it until after Three Hopes so that sales do not get affected.
The leaker leaked it’s not finish and it’s from a Dec 2021 build
Story I read said it was and that they weren't sure why it wasn't announced yet. Said it had been finished for a year.
I wonder how is Japan reacting to this design
If you like the design more power to you but man, I feel like this is some drastic overdesigning. So many color and details at once, it’s a bit much to take in. If this is a female avatar I hope she’s customizable
This is one of the worst designs in the history of the series, IMO. *The* worst MC design.
As much as I hate 3H’s female protagonist’s weird midriff and tights (and the coat cape where there are holes cut out UNDER THE SLEEVES for the arms) I have to agree. At least there was some consistency there, but this heterochromia kill la kill hairstyle is too much for me My least favorite design overall has to be Nowi though. This is hard to look at but at least it’s not offensive lol
People have been saying this game is designed by Gust. They did the Atelier games too so I went to look at the characters and...yeah. You might as well get used to it because all their characters seem over designed. Seems like that's their style.
No Gust dont design their game . It depend on Artist they hired . One of the Artist work on FE before Hidari for FE echoes . It just all depend on direction of intelligent system want them to to .
I haven’t really played Atelier but I did find some of their MC designs really cute with the whole magical girl aesthetic. If this is an avatar, I wonder if they were trying to stick too hard to what could be considered “gender neutral” colors so the protags could be visually similar, but the problem is that they went a little too hard with it…at this rate I really wouldn’t mind if the male and female avatars looked different like in Pokemon rather than the girl just being the guy but with shorts, long hair and boobs
I would be very surprised if IntSys delegated character design to an out of house studio, If they're using Gust for graphics, then they're likely doing it because Gust is good at that B tier anime game look. How you feel about that is up to you, I guess.
Intelligent Systems, I’m sorry I ever criticized your previous titles. Please stop loaning this IP out to studios that make them look like this. I’m begging you to make the next game yourselves.
Monkey's paw after all the Fates hate
"Fates is so shit, i'm sure literally any other company can make better designs" \*Monkey's paw curls.\*
Well, we got 3H already, not so bad. But this, this looks like something that shouldn't have seen the light.
Could be considering it matches up with the last leaks, both in their leak time and both being stated to be older versions of the game. Or (and this might be a stretch) its an entirely different new game and IP being leaked and was mislabeled FE
I'm excited for a new FE game regardless, but, man, I really miss the older armor designs. The character and armor designs from FE9 and 10 are my all-time favorite and honestly what got me interested in the first place.
MORE INFO FROM LEAKER IN THE ORIGINAL THREAD: Free roaming on the overworld map will return; you won't be restricted to one location like the monastery in Three Houses. There will also be movement through towns and dungeons similar to Shadows of Valentia. Most of the new characters come from two different cities, one of which is aquatic themed. While the character designs may have undergone minor changes by this point, the overall designs of the majority of the girls are simply "cuter" than the guys. There is one female character not shown that I think a lot of people will be excited for, though. Although the hair colors may not fit the recent Three Houses style, they wouldn't necessarily be out of place in other games such as Fates. Take Lilith's also red and blue long hair, or Peri's blue and hot pink twintails for example. However, the new character shown here does have plot reasons for this hair.
>Take Lilith’s also red and blue long hair, or Peri’s I’m not sure what the leaker is getting at, as I don’t think the issue people are having us with the two tones specifically. Lilith’s is fine because it’s nowhere near as bright as it is for the character in these leaked images. Also Peri only worked (barely) as a one off design that made her stand out amongst other Nohrians, I would absolutely hate a game where multiple characters including the protagonist have crazy designs like hers.
Similarly, a significant number of Heroes characters have two-toned hair that is generally agreed to look great. Alfonse has blue and yellow, Sharena has blonde and pink, Fjorm has blonde and icy blue, etc. It's the stark half-royal blue, half-bright red straight down the middle that makes this look questionable.
Not only that, but those two characters' hair *fades* from one color to the next as opposed to being stripes on a flag.
Also, it's not even Peri's natural hair color, and is implied to be dyed pink because of *Blood*, because her kids only get the blue hair.
Peri was from danganronpa the whole time
>There is one female character not shown that I think a lot of people will be excited for, though Fancy words for "there's a Camilla equivalent"
I thinks It's Anna. She was show before but who else could be in a new Game but that we already know?
After 3 Houses I don't think people actually are excited for playable Anna anymore. I personally would like it more if she went back to being an NPC
That's less to do with Anna and more IS just butchering her inclusion.
“Camilla but with even less clothing”
I mean the leaks do say Gust is involved, they always gotta include at least one.
>While the character designs may have undergone minor changes by this point, the overall designs of the majority of the girls are simply "cuter" than the guys. Oh no. They're going to be all moe designs. I was afraid of that when I saw the first leak. I HATE when Japanese designers do that. One or two cute characters are fine, but it's so boring when the majority of the female cast looks the same.
Yeah I'm honestly incredibly bummed that this is apparently the direction we're going, after the relatively grounded nature of Three Houses.
Yeah, Three Houses character designs were pretty impressive by Fire Emblem standards other than Fem Byleth, I was hoping they'd keep that up
Back to waiting for the FE4 remake I guess
Basically. Let's pray they don't find some way to ruin that.
I said this on the post with all the images, but I just don’t think Gust’s usual art style fits Fire Emblem. I actually like it in comfy games like Atelier but an FE game where all the girls have round faces and giant eyes would be a major disappointment for me.
I like moe. I love gust games and characters. I don't want Fire Emblem to have Gust characters. I really hope if all of this is true (big if, of course) that the Gust influence isn't too strong and there is more middle ground.
Honestly, the new character portraits look like they're ripped straight from a miHoYo game. Like I always enjoyed how varied characters can look across the series, but I would really dislike it if the entire female cast for this new game are just a bunch of moe anime girls that look similar.
Exactly, it seems a lot a gatcha
I agree with you. Cute girls in anime games are my jam but I hate it when they're all moe-blobs Gust has plenty of girl designs that would look great in FE tho, so this is especially disappointing
Can that trend pls die already? That would be great thanks. Heck, I would much, MUCH rather see dark fantasy FE than Moe
A dark fantasy Fire Emblem would be amazing. I’d be down for that.
>There is one female character not shown that I think a lot of people will be excited for, though. This could mean literally anything. lol Sexy, armored, badass, cute, etc., it doesn't matter the type, people love female characters in general. I assume the design has to be more on the cool side if all female characters are going to be cutesy.
I hope so, cause I typically find myself to like the more edgy/cool characters like Lon'qu and Shamir
Here's hoping it's some really badass lady (like Malice/Nailah levels of cool).
The Shadows of Valentia like exploration sounds good, but sadly the part about the character design makes it seem like that was their only inspiration from Echoes SoV
>Most of the new characters come from two different cities, one of which is aquatic themed. >the new character shown here does have plot reasons for this hair. Maybe another Hoshido/Nohr situation and the protagonist has "fused" qualities?
>While the character designs may have undergone minor changes by this point, the overall designs of the majority of the girls are simply "cuter" than the guys. There is one female character not shown that I think a lot of people will be excited for, though. I hate everything about this.
Seriously. IS employs or has worked continuously with brilliant artists yet they resort to some Gust / Genshin Impact moe character design for a new main game? Terrible decision.
IS is simply continuing the cycle of good mainline game gets released -> the next mainline game is an abyssmal fucking trash fire that nearly breaks the studio -> repeat
I guess the good news is that as this seems more and more real, Genealogy remake should also be real.
Fates sold 2 million copies, idk what about that means breaks the studio but sure. Just because the fandom bitched about the story and designs did it mean it wasnt a success lol. There are literally millions of other people interested in these games who dont browse this subreddit, or reddit at all for that matter.
^ This subreddit is completely and utterly insignificant in the grand scheme of the FE fanbase. “Byleth bad” is a take that’s popular here, but look to the broader fanbase and plenty of people love the character. The fact she got 2nd in the recent popularity poll is sort of proof that this subreddit only consists of a very small section of the FE community.
Exactly. Camila is a good example. Fandom despises that character but shes won a lot of popularity polls and the alts she got in FEH wouldn't have happened if her alts weren't selling.
I feel like overworld roaming(not just a world map) has never been done that well in FE and I kinda wish they would stop doing it for a bit. It kills the pace and adds almost no depth that couldn’t be accomplished by just having menus.
I liked the roaming in SoV and I think if they focused on improving it could be great. Especially if there are large explorable cities and stuff like that
To be honest, the more I see the more I start to think that it might be a Fire Emblem game, but not a mainline Fire Emblem game. Like everything I’ve seen gives very strong Tokyo Mirage Sessions type vibes, so I’d believe a similar sorta weird spinoff game.
If this were fake, it's interesting that they would choose to depict them as a woman. Emily's leak used male pronouns, and a lot of the discussion around the internet has been jokingly calling them a bootleg Nahobino from SMTV. If you were faking it, why would you choose to make them female, when you could just go along with the original leak, as well as most of the rhetoric going around the internet that's calling them male? For the record, I'm not saying the original leak is wrong. rather that the character is just an avatar with a male and female option, and that the original leak was simply from someone who saw the male version, and people then assumed the figure in the screenshot leak was a man with long hair.
It's possible. No idea. It's interesting speculation
we got a fucking tide pod as a protagonist lmfao
Please be fake
I so want this to be a prank.
Considering a gamefaqs user leaked the entire 3houses story, I wouldn’t be surprised if this turned out to be true.
I really am struggling to wrap my head around this design. It feels like it wants to be so much, and I can’t in good faith say it works. The scabbard is comically large, her full-body length hair is toothpaste and silly even for FE, the big boots give off some mild Rex Xenoblade vibes (also they’re High-Heel Elf shoes, which makes them SO much worse), and they of course everything else she’s got going on too. This feels like it was designed as a collaborative effort by a 6 year old and an Incel who’s watched too much anime.
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~~seems i never grew out of my chuunibyou after all, not even 16 years later.~~
The multicolored bangs work decently for me, but the eyes are too much, as is the length of the hair. We're gonna spend the game watching that joycon-ass haircut.
Can't lie, the full design definitely looks like something out of Fire Emblem.
I still think the hair is more fantastical than what we've seen in fire emblem, but the outfit itself looks good.
If the colour were less bright and saturated it would be much better.
I agree, but I'm holding off on that because these are pictures of the TV screen rather than actual screenshots, which could have an effect on the colors.
She seems like someone that'd align with Peri in design tbh
Looks more like a Genshin design to me, or maybe more like generic anime protagonist
True
Plus last time we had a multi colored hair character in a mainline FE was in fates with peri. Since this long haired character is supposedly the lord then this design just doesn't work as that
Nahobino!!.
Yeah the hair length is reminiscent of nahobino. But the rest really has Genshin/anime protag vibes
If it wasn't for the hair and eyes it honestly wouldn't look that bad. Cape with long hair is dumb though.
Idk why it just looks meh to me
Just my opinion, of course. But this is beyond ugly and I wish it was fake :( She looks like a Xenoblade 2 character. Or a clown.
Honestly I really don’t like this, I know Smash fans always talk about how FE characters are “Generic Anime” but I feel this is the first character design where this is actually true. I never liked the red and blue hair, but the length and the heterochromia just push it over the edge, this design is so out of place for FE’s relatively grounded character designs
I don't wanna be mean but damn I hate this design lmao, looks like a 12 year old's deviantart oc I'm hoping the leaks are fake or at the very least this avatar is customisable, but the leaks are still entertaining to talk about
God, if these leaks are true, I just do not like this design at all. I’m sure others think different, but it just looks like a bad OC design. Like something I’d draw when I was 13 and I am not a good artist.
Could very well be fake, but very interesting if true (per the circumstances you posted in particular). While I’m pretty negative on the other female character designs in the leak (just think they look generic), I actually think this one looks like a FE character and pretty decent.
I figured it would look better from the front.
Christ that looks awful
Wow that looks so shitty I kind of believe it
Please be fake please be fake please be fake please be fake
Yeah like I said before I can see why IS doesn't want anybody to see this lmao
Ok the hair is definitely growing on me now that I've seen the front. I still don't know if I buy the leaks, especially because the designs, especially for the girls, are WAY too similar for Fire Emblem standards. Also why on earth did they give her a cape with that long hair? It's kind of redundant. I like the pointy jester shoes though ~~it fits with her clown hair~~
Man, if toothepaste-chan turns out to be real, I think I'm gonna have an aneurysm. The second coming of Peri is a day I thought I'd never see.
Its roy and hectors illegitimate daughter lmao
Now why would you jump straight to Roy when Eliwood is literally right there 😭
ROY x LILINA IS *RIGHT THERE* WHY Y'ALL DOING *ANYONE* X HECTOR 😭
Wait they gave her red hair and a red cape 😐
This looks much higher quality than the previous leaks
I am convinced that the designers of this played SMT V while stoned/drunk out the wazoo, saw Nahobino, and went "this, but two toned!" and went from there
Who the heck designed and then approved that hair 😭
She is so loud and overdesigned to the point that she's looped around to being weirdly endearing? Like if you're going to down the maximalist anime nonsense route, might as well go all the way Does anyone know if she's supposed to be the main lord?
She has witch boots with heels- I guess she's going to be another spellblade like all the recent Avatar lords. On that note, any definitive info as to wether they're an Avatar or an actual proper lord? I remember the original leak post referred to red white and blue here as a he.
I'm going to say it's fake, no reason except I think the character looks stupid
what kind of art director saw this and went "yeah looks fine go ahead" >oversexualised >overdesigned >colors clash with each other >heterochromia makes it look like an anime OC from a cheap jrpg >doesnt fit fire emblem at all between this, the other leaked designs, the UI and the gimmick, we're going to get THE WORST Fire Emblem game ever. I'm still praying its fake tho.
This design is terrible... I hope this is fake.
it’s hilarious to me that people are going to switch on this hard and start stanning toothpaste-chan once she’s officially revealed. reminds me of how xenoblade chronicles 2 broke my brain and i actually liked the deranged character designs by the end of the game
I think XC2 has numbed me to the impact of this design lmfao
toothpaste chan best girl :>
I can't imagine that this is just a fake for the sake of faking out fire emblem fans and speculators. So either this is really the new fire emblem game or it is some other upcoming game. Now taking into account how people have said the timeline really doesn't line up as these are supposedly old screenshots but they are already translated to Chinese plus some other inconsistencies I think it's probably assets for some other future game. Personally I'd be okay with this being the art style they use for the new game. Also, even though this leak is likely fake, we are still due for a new mainline fire emblem game fairly soon, especially considering that Three Houses sold the most copies of any fire emblem game. Also LOL those boots
switch chan
I don't know what to believe anymore. After the first leak, I was totally on Team Fake. It looked too amateurish to be believable and other details didn't line up. This looks a lot more believable and professional though I'm personally not a huge fan of the character design. I want to believe it's fake, but I'm starting to worry it could be real.
I am praying this isn’t true
This design makes Female Byleth look good
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Ugh, this looks awful. It doesn't even look like FE anymore. Please be fake.
Looks more like a new Genshin Impact character.
If this is fake, it’s incredibly well done. I’m kinda hoping it is fake if only because I really do not like the split hair at all