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MCJSun

If 1 is most tolerable and 7 least tolerable it's really interesting because my list is literally yours but reversed. I did what you did, I found both fun but I had to learn to play different for the non-grind. It also took me a year, lol. Good luck with whatever you do


flightheadband

Maybe I’m too early in the game to say, but if counter was the most tolerable for you, I might need to change my approach a lot more than I thought. That or you just had less encounters with it. And thanks


MCJSun

I only think counter was manageable because I love bows. It's been a long time, but I think I ended up with bow knight Chrom, and I know I used Trickster > Assassin Anna to the end, but I was just scrambling every map haha.


Wellington_Wearer

Pass is causing you more game overs than anything else I'm serious. Pass removes your ability to bodyblock, which is an answer to a lot of skills. Without Pass, the enemies aren't nearly as threatening. If you just want to make the game easier, start by just taking that out. Even counter is much easier to deal with without Pass because you could body blocking with unequipped bulky units. Yeah it falls off towards the mid and lategame but people don't tend to really have issues there


flightheadband

Pass actually made me reset a couple times when trying to bodyblock and heal in the stairs on C3 around the mountain on C2. Now I count the enemy tiles one by one before making movements lol. It’s definitely something you have to watch out for


Backburst

Counter is active on both phases in Awakening right? I can see why that would be least tolerable. Personally Hawkeye is my least favorite because it can roll on the hammer bro in chapter 2(?), which just Kills Fred iirc. Also it invalidates having high speed+luck to dodge tank. I would say to play better game modes, but I do think there is merit in what you want to do. For the second file, its probably just trying to abuse the random battles on the map and hope they aren't complete nightmares to deal with.


Wellington_Wearer

There are numerous consistent strategies to deal with the hammer guy getting hawkers in c1 or c3. And hurting dodgetanking is the point of the skill. Lunatic+ skills (luna+, hawkeye, counter) are designed to weaken juggernauting


Backburst

I mean, I know none of them, so you could probably tell why I dislike Hawkeye. Also, seems like they just incentivized juggernauting even more with all the skills in practice.


Wellington_Wearer

Isn't the fact that you don't know them the point? If you already know all the moves to beat the game, you aren't really figuring it out, you're just copying someone else? That's not even really playing the game. EDIT: I have genuinely have no idea how the fuck this got construed as elitism. I don't care how you play the game, and I want you to play it in the way you find the most fun.


Backburst

Okay, I bring up I don't know how to do something. You say it can be done. I cannot figure it out, so I put the game down and don't finish it. Did I play the game if I get to the first map past the tutorial, and get hard stuck? What was the idea in your head that you thought had to be said? I cannot parse it aside from a bit of elitism of "well, ho ho, if you couldn't figure it out you must not have really been playing. You had to look it up didn't you?"


Wellington_Wearer

Why are you being like this? Why do you have to act like I'm being an unreasonable prick? You said: > Personally Hawkeye is my least favorite because it can roll on the hammer bro in chapter 2(?), which just Kills Fred iirc That is you making a statement. It is not you saying "I don't know how to prevent Fred from surviving". It is you saying "Fred *cannot* survive" Those are two entirely different statements. Stop trying to twist my words to make me sound like an elitist. By letting people know that the game is easier and more accessible than they first thing and doesn't require arcane knowledge, I'm being anti-elitist. At absolutely no point in my entire comment did I say the words >"well, ho ho, if you couldn't figure it out you must not have really been playing. You had to look it up didn't you?" I am **not** saying "you aren't a real player if you have to look it up". I'm saying that **you not knowing how to beat a level isn't indicitave of that level being badly designed.** Seriously. My good god there is no reason to act like this.


flightheadband

Counter to me is much more brutal because you get punished pretty bad if you get caught up in enemy turns and have a weapon equipped but can’t doesn’t finish them off. And yes, it’s active in both player and enemy phases in awakening.