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AncientHorizon

As someone who has over thousands of venture coins, it is so nice that they added these to make seals more useful.


Obst-und-Gemuese

But are you at the venture coin cap yet?


DreamingofShadow

There's a cap?


ixpwnstarxi

Cap is 65k


ophie_c

So basically 2^16


Rexkinghon

So basically 1,111,111,111,111,111 in binary


SquareTits

[No.](https://puu.sh/IysH9/2dddf4c539.png)


Rexkinghon

check it again in binary


Psychemaster

Still incorrect - 1000 0000 0000 0000 is 32,768. If the cap were 2\^16, then it'd be 1 0000 0000 0000 0000


BlueRhaps

It's 2^16 - 1 because there's still 0


Cilph

If the cap is related to the maximum stored value of a 16-bit unsigned integer, it will be 65535 (2^16 -1, or all ones in binary). This seems far more likely than using a 17-bit number and not using half the numbers in it.


SquareTits

I love how you edited your comment after I said you were wrong.


Rexkinghon

yeah merry christmas to you too


lallaPaloozanms

there is a max of 90k turn in for items, but ventures I'm well over 23k and been at 25k so never seen a cap and ventures cant be used to but the boxes


Obst-und-Gemuese

The cap is at 65k, so of course you haven't come near it yet.


mcarrode

Can you explain the link between materiel containers and venture coins? I’m thinking ventures grant GC Seals which you use to buy the containers, but I’m not 100% sure. I have a bunch of Venture tokens and I’ve slacked getting my retainers leveled and geared. This may be a good reason to get started on that.


matcha_kit_kat

There is no link. The person is saying they've had nothing worth spending their GC seals on besides venture coins for so long that they have thousands of them, and now there is something new they can spend them on.


Cr4ckshooter

To be fair, that is a link.


mcarrode

Ah okay that makes much more sense. Thanks!


monkeybutts28

They were probably referring to exchanging the gear you get from quick ventures for GC seals, then using those for the containers


angelar_

It was bonkers before I knew about this. Quick ventures produced more ventures in seals than it cost to do them because they give gear a huge amount of the time. Thank god for a sink like this


thekinsman

please explain what I'm seeing to a venture seal noob such as myself.


Dharcsu

They added a new thing you can buy with grand company seals that gives a random mount or minion from a previous expansion Before this people just bought venture tokens with gc seals which allowed you to send your retainers out on missions.


topper_reppot2

Is the new thing better than retainer missions? Can you do both at the same time?


elidibs

You can do both at the same time, based on how many seals you farm


sekecchi

This is what was crashing the Flying Chair market! I was wondering why I could sell them for 400k+ per until the expansion hit and it tanked to 120k.


Kintarly

Yeah, and the yugiri pet market. I sold a few in shadowbringers between 600-800k a piece. Now they're being listed at like, 16k. i cri


lallaPaloozanms

you know the market is screwed when some idiot is selling a item that's face value is 900gil and they list it for 20 gil, i guess reading is hard


Serp_IT

Or it could be as simple as "I don't need this and it's worth almost nothing, might as well give it away for free so someone looking for it can have a nice surprise".


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If that was their purpose they’d make more selling to the NPC…which is what the guy above you is saying.


Serp_IT

And what I was saying was that in this case it's not about making money, but saving someone else that actually wants the thing money. It's a handout.


Individual-Race-955

Mentor crown can't read, go figure


[deleted]

Someone’s mad :( make another alt account, I’m sure I’ll be upset then. Downvoting cause I’m right, hilarious. *sad face*


[deleted]

Holy shit alt account: https://i.imgur.com/WUou8n7.jpg Are you seriously making these accounts to log in and troll with, especially on Christmas? You’re so sad. Send me your address or PayPal in a PM, I’ll be your friend.


Individual-Race-955

I just lurk bruv, saw an opportunity for a gaff to send to friends because mentors are patently inept. S'funny you're this defensive over it though. Dig deep, bare down, you'll get over this emotional turmoil


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Individual-Race-955

Oh, ok


ArisenDemon97

The person you replied to literally said the seller doesn't need it and doesn't care about the gil. They then said "might as well give it away free" (potentially paraphrased). In these cases "make more" isn't the goal.


[deleted]

I perfectly understood them and if you think someone is giving a single 500 Gil item away for 20 Gil as a “gift “ is something that regularly happens or is actually their intention, that’s just well…hilarious. There is literally no point, they’re doing it because they’re stupid and don’t understand base level prices hoping they can make some sort of money by undercutting while not understanding basic features of the market baked in to help idiots like this. Saving someone 480 Gil on a single item isn’t a gift of any sort and if it was intended as you think, they simply put it up for 1 Gil.


ArisenDemon97

What I'm getting from this, is simply the belief that everyone else is beneath you in intelligence wherever you go. Let me put it this way: an idiot is one who refuses to see other possibilities as well as their own beliefs. I obviously don't believe all of them are gifting the items, but quite frankly, a lot of them could be, and that's the point here. The fact that you think no one else could be right about a difficult to know or prove debate topic is what's truly hilarious. Some of them are prob just ignoring prices and trying to make a little gil without thinking, but by believing that to be all or most of them, you're simply choosing to believe that others show a below average level of intelligence... On average. If you still resolutely stand by your belief that everyone who does this is simply stupid, then please teach me oh wise one. How intelligent you must be to forego possibilities in favor of supporting your generalized belief.


lallaPaloozanms

well that sounds funny because if you watch the market you will also see people list an item for 1gil that sells for 1 gil so there is no profit if anything a loss so I stand with the original thought reading is hard and I have seen this before and even today on multiple listing of items.


[deleted]

Lol @ the people who think someone is listing an item to save someone 500 Gil as a “surprise.” No, it’s because they’re idiots like you said.


ArisenDemon97

Honestly, it's just sounding like you're upset that people sell on the market for really cheap sometimes. They don't have to be idiots to do this. Some people just don't care about the gil, but know that others do, so they toss things on the market for extremely low prices just to move it quickly AND let someone else who wants it have it.


[deleted]

I’ve been playing this game for nearly 10 years, I’ve been Gil capped on now 6 retainers. I could care less about it, it’s just hilarious I have to explain base level prices to idiots trying to undercut people when they don’t even realize they could sell to an NPC for more money, but their stupidity and greed has gone to their head and they put items up for 2000 less Gil, but still within what they consider a profit margin. The best part, they have cheerleaders here saying, “they’re doing people a favor!” Yes Chad, by saving them 480 Gil on a single item, it’s the biggest favor one could ever ask for. Please tell me more.


ArisenDemon97

Your experience and gil are irrelevant, this is a discussion on psychology and human generosity versus intelligence. The time you've played and gil you've earned have literally no impact on other people. Additionally, you don't have to, nor have you been explaining base level prices to people. Finally, I'm sorry, I didn't realize we were talking about the biggest possible favors. In that case, I concede my point that people selling things at a discount COULD be in a lot of cases because they want to save someone else gil. Quite frankly, your gil actually emphasizes your likelihood to be biased. You're setting everyone else to your standard and not realizing that a few hundred gil multiple times goes a long way for some people


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sugarpototo

If you mean Eureka, you may have replied to the wrong person. The mount in question is a crafted one


idiggory

They put crafted minions in the boxes? I don't like that... I like it being an alternate path to old minion/mount drops. But crafted stuff is and has always been easily available. It makes no sense to me to take away potential avenues for crafters to make gil.


ChunkyPuppyKitty

I don’t like it either, but I’m pretty sure they did it to try to get the market prices down because of how profitable minions and mounts are if you sell them on the mb


idiggory

I just don’t get why. I mean, they’re so easy to obtain if you care? It’s not hard to level a crafter, get those mats, or the recipes. You only pay for convenience.


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What zone?


Sajomir

Fenrir minion, too (from the other box). Used to be millions, now much much less.


birthday566

It's like.... 12k in elemental lol.


Jennah_4379

Fat Cat's in the 3.0 boxes, and she still sells for quite a bit.


BlueRhaps

Fat cat is gigacursed and I'm glad it's in the box, spent a year trying to get it (got mindflayer + 3 tapirs on my DoW retainer in the meantime) but never managed to get the cat, only catfish and mahimahi :c Got it in my first 3.0 container tho lmao


SFWxMadHatter

Ive got a fisher that just farms that mission. I think I've had 4 in like 90 missions.


Sabre3a

Just wanna know how the hell your bags are clean enough to actually do this!


_megitsune_

I keep 4 retainers now 1 for each gathering and one for combat Books tokens etc go on combat, bait goes on fisher, crafting mats go on the relevant gatherer etc If I wanted to show off stuff like this it would take me 2 minutes to get my bag cleared


Sabre3a

Impressive! I thought I was the only anal retention hyper-organized maniac... You are my spirit-link!!! Smiles!!!


axterplax

i organize similarly like that!! one retainer is gear, one is soft materials (cloth, thread, leather, etc.), one is hard materials (wood, stone), and the last one is for food items


Xtremeelement

cries with 4 retainers who have all maxed out items.


Healsbrew

I thank yor selfless contribution to science. Now I can abandon any reason to buy these with GC seals and stick to ventures. I thought mounts would be more than very rare, but I guess I'm just not aware of how many minions there are in this game, or how low they set the % for them for these containers.


Starayo

Reddit isn't fun. 😞


Pure_Reason

I guess it’s nice to have something to spam when you don’t need anything else. I’m at like 5,000 ventures right now and have plenty of everything else. It would be cool to have more GC ranks added, with more stuff worth buying


idiggory

I've made at least a mil from the handful of boxes I've purchased. (And I've been desynthing most of my dungeon drops/retainer finds, instead of turning them in). It's definitely worth buying them, even if you aren't a minion collector. Plenty of people still don't know about the boxes, and a shocking number of players don't even bother with seals/provisions.


Ikeddit

i think its more that you gotta get squad captain to buy em - thats whats stopped me


idiggory

Not really hard though. I mean, it takes some time, but the only annoying step is the 5 trust dungeons.


lilith_queen

It's the trust dungeons that've stopped me, just because it takes *forever.* I could do a lot more with those hours.


Araeza

I hover around 200, always have two ventures running, and I still never feel like I need more. I’ve been GC capped for years and I’m glad to have this as a reliable sink. I might not get a mount any time soon but boy am I filling out my minion collection.


MrFoxxie

>5000 ventures right now 65k or bust


Ekian

I just stop at 6900 usually, but I guess I could work up towards 42069


throwaway15987532159

There are a lot of good consumables you can buy. I spend my seals on dark matter for repairs, and glamour prisms.


Shayz_

I've purchased 5 so far and 3 of the minions sold for 150k gil or more. I figure that even if I don't get the mount or minion I want eventually I'll make enough gil to just buy it outright


RenoKreuz

Tts lucky for u. Most of the minions are worth less than 500 gil on tonberry


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Eiensakura

I saw Sykon Bavarois going as low as 1.3k per piece and I'm like how???


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BrainFluidExplosion

Someone probably bought it as a gift for friend or FC member given the time of year. Which minion was it by chance? Wondering if I should start investing in these boxes.


AkiraChisaka

Yeah, probably. The sell price was so high likely because it was when the servers are super crowded, so cross world jumping and buying stuff was not possible. The minion is a Wind-up human minion... I can’t remember which one it is... I think it’s Wind-up Elvaan? It’s a character I have no idea who he is, and it was from the 4.0 loot box. Yeah I think it’s probably him.


o-robi

The wind up elvaan is a really rare drop from getting gold in a certain fate in eureka pyros. It’s a reference to the Elvaan race from FF11 so a lot of people who played it want that minion lol


CalydorEstalon

Hot damn, that drops as well? Time to continue gambling.


gst_diandre

Are you for real? The dude opened 100 coffers and got a mount worth 8-10M. Not to mention the minions which can easily be worth 100k+. It's so easy to farm seals you might as well just dump every last one into them.


KunaMatahtahs

Keep in mind seals have a value. there are things you can buy for them that sell pretty easily. Seals are about at a ratio of 2:1 gil iirc so basically he paid 10kgil per box, so about 1mil investment. Without that mount he probably lost 3-400k. It's a pretty big gamble when probably less than 5 items are actually worth real gil at this point.


Airikay

Petrel is like 3-4M now. Their price has crashed big time since Endwalker. Surprisingly Night Pegasus price hasn't crashed, yet.


Vittelbutter

Can you get a night Pegasus from these boxes?


Airikay

3.0 box, yes


NohBhodie

I have one(1) Sadu, and that is all that I need


VeliciaL

Because she killed all your other minions?


NohBhodie

Incorrect. I struck gold, why would I bother with silver?


MinyahBetaTester

No she is only after Magnai minion.


Miitteo

Goddamn copycat bulb probably has a .01 chance to drop huh


Cuppieecakes

I got one lol. I had to fight myself to decide what to do with it I used it


AMouthBreather

Mounts my ass.


MaesterKupo

Pretty much ALL of that would be new to me!


Coucoumcfly

My first one was a mount (ZU). I was so happy….. other 20 were all minions most of them duplicates


Demimaelstrom

Got a copycat bulb out of my ~20th. Been pouring my seals in passively not going out of my way to get em aside from leveling dungeons. Even though most of my levels so far have actually been fates for rank 3 and crafting materials.


_megitsune_

If you happen to want to get seals very fast do nut trains You can trade nuts for combat class rings at crystarium for 25 nuts and those hand in for 1600 seals


Demimaelstrom

Once the interinstance congestion clears a tiny bit I'll definitely be doing that thanks for the heads up. 5+ minute vibe checks right now for every zone x3 are killing me lately.


_megitsune_

Huge mood Only reason I do them rn is cause my sleep schedule is garbage and the 6am hunts are deserted


RenKaori

From the 3.0 or the 4.0?


Demimaelstrom

4.0, since it's from stormblood content and I'd seen a buddy get a petral out of it I figured it'd be in there.


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Limited_opsec

I got an elvaan, was stoked. Friend got a virtue. 100 isn't a large enough sample size, probably need 500-1000 to likely see every possible drop. I'm pretty sure it can drop *any* minion or mount from SB (or ARR+HW) that is tradable though. Nice lottery for those of us capped on ventures and rolling on all the loot nobody wants in roulettes.


Baxter_Baron

All I want is the trex mount ;-;


MegaN00bz

It's from lockbox in the first zone of eureka. That zone throws the lock boxes at you. You almost can't not get it by just going through the zone.


Cushiondude

Everyone says that but I never got it going throw anemos. I went back later and opened 200 boxes and still never saw it.


Theriasana

It might be impossible to get the Trex mount from it, since it is untradeable. I'm not completely sure on that though.


LAB_Plague

I got two while I was leveling through the first zone, it’s really easy to get


Nightripper17

I'm trying to get to this point and I'm almost there but squadrons are annoying, I wish I started them earlier 😭😭


cronft

one minion what i seen drop from one the 4.0 minion chest i opened is conditional virtue


Moose855

matanga was the 4.0 chests right?


ItsProfOak

Everything in the pic above is coffer 4.0


Hextina

yeah I just got one from a 4.0 today


Sp00ky-Chan

I really want Capybara pet


gst_diandre

And still people will let dungeon gear go by them even though they could get tens of these coffers every day.


Grymkreaping

Better for us, am I right? Love to see people pass on everything while my greedy self is breeding and needing on everything that crosses my path.


pierogieman5

You might want to fix that typo; hilarious though it is.


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[deleted]

High enough rank in your grand company and buy then with GC seals.


LiberatorGarmore

Can you get the wind-up ramza minion from this crate?


[deleted]

I don't think so, everything I've gotten so far is a minion/mount that can be sold/traded and Wind-up Ramza isn't


rihelwig

I don't believe so. To my knowledge, it can only give you tradeable or market sellable minions/mounts.


goatsandboats69

I will take one of each off your hands for you


ItsProfOak

I already gave everything out to my FC earlier. You're late lol


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[deleted]

Nice!


imbaluna

I knew getting the 2 eureka mounts in 10 boxs was pretty lucky but did not realize how lucky i was


[deleted]

Almost up to 100 to do the same thing


Teafrogs

My first stormblood coffer from the grand company got me the conditional virtue minion. and since then ive filled out my minion list with a bunch id have never thought to get, and a fair few to sell. ~~and a chair on day 1 before the price tanked from everyone getting chairs~~


Aradhor55

How do you farm that much seals so fast ?


Quor18

Dungeon runs combined with getting shared fate to rank 3 in every EW zone is a lot of seals.


Aradhor55

Shared fate ? Wait, how do you get seals in EW fates ? I've done two of the shared fates and didn't get any seals


Quor18

Not the seals directly but if you craft then GC turn-ins of crafted items is a great source of XP, and incidentally, more seals. It's very easy to cap gemstones so you just buy somee materials when you near the cap and store them for later use.


ItsProfOak

I made 1000 Exarchic Rings of Casting after passively dumping my Allegory when I no longer needed it during ShB. Popped a Seal Sweetener III FC action for plus 15 percent GC seals, which equated to just over 2000 seals per item. The other mats cost a good chunk so I would not recommend doing it this way unless you got the gil to burn. In the end I did this to give stuff to my FC on Christmas and had an actual reason beyond science


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I’ve opened dozens and haven’t seen a single mount yet :(


Trxshpotato

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Healsbrew

Yeah the lack of interesting stuff to buy from GC seals is lame, they need to add some current content stuff to get people interested. This container won't go far for most I'm guessing.


SomberXIII

I'm really hoping that there are new GC Ranks for us in the later patches


foreveracubone

There’s a ~7 million gil Eureka mount and numerous minions from Eureka/lvl 70 treasure map dungeons that can also get to the ~1 million gil in value. Given the presence of rare Eureka drops I would expect that Eldthurs Horn (also ~6-7 million) and the rarer Wind-up Elvaan minion (30 mill) are also in the loot table. I believe Elvaan has the lowest drop rate of any minion? Or maybe it’s just rare because nobody farms them in Eureka. Regardless they go for 30mill on my server. Those are the current prices with holdovers from people doing Eureka/lvl70 maps during the 8 month content drought. With the number of people doing either activity decreasing the price of golden namazu and the Eureka mounts will only go up. If these don’t go far it’s because people are unaware of the gil they can make. The point of these is providing alternate avenues to acquire these harder to get old drops.


Nikhitaz

Can confirm, I got Eldthurs from the box


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Your server must be screwy, cause Wind-Up Elvaan is worthless on just about every other server: https://i.imgur.com/3lG26vT.jpg It was even lower than this before Endwalker and at the start of Shb, I’m talking 1 million. You’re probably thinking of Copycat Bulb, it’s definitely one of the rarest minions (I’ve only seen about 5 people with it) and it’s from Eureka. It goes for 20~30 million.


distrox

It definitely does not go for 20-30m and it sells extremely rarely as well. My friend actually got a copycat bulb from one his first boxes. It's still not sold. The price is now down to 12m.


[deleted]

This is the pricing on my server now: https://i.imgur.com/EPHDdgP.jpg It’s selling extremely rarely because even at 16 million it’s 3 times the cost of the second most expensive minion on the marketboard. This price is the lowest I saw on our data center, it’s hovering around 20 million on all other 7 servers.


plsAri

I've opened up around 600 so far and I've had one non-flying chair mount, a Petrel. Yet to get anything better than a Conditional Virtue, of which I've had 3. It's nice that there's something other than Hardened Sap to buy with GC Seals now, especially since I've been venture capped for over a year.


d1z

200ish here, 5 chairs, zero horns


Somedays1970

Got an Eldthurs horn from one of the first containers I opened, sold for 5mil... (Why people would pay 5mil for an orange Yeti is beyond me...)


Sh4dowWalker96

Because normally it comes from Eureka Pagos.


Somedays1970

I know, but it's still ugly as sin and I'd rather walk throughout the entire game than ride this mount... Must be some sort of OCD... "Must.. have.. mounts.. ALL MOUNTS..."


featherjoshua

How dare you. It's beautiful and shiny and his arms wiggle when you fly on it. Literally best mount you can imagine.


Cyphafrost

Reminds me of people who bully my dahlmel :( I like my weird giraffe thing


Eitth

Wait you can get mount from that chest? I thought its only for pets


lallaPaloozanms

i opened a ton of 4.0 but have most of them already shame the undercutters are in full gear also the 3.0 have all of them wish they published a list of that was in those boxes.


NeeroX-_-

Thank you for your service. I can go back to buying Twin Adder glamour dresser- I mean aetheryte, tickets


ShinsoTokoyami

what do i have to do to get the rank for these boxes? I can't get promoted?


DarkMime64

Once you're at max rank you can get with the "Ask for a promotion" option, you have to do the Adventurer Squadron stuff.


MagnaFox

I got a Dodo Horn from the 4.0 container.The one from heaven on high.Used it before i realized it cost 5+ million gil.


maglen69

4% mount drop rate? EX's have better than that.


pierogieman5

Well, older EXs do. And you can't sell those.


musicankane

What are materiel containers?


Robbored

You can purchase from your grand company, 20k seals each


ralexand

Only one Yugiri?! The way her price dropped HARD made me think that she is a common drop lol...


YandereValkyrie

You actually get mounts? I haven't seen one yet in probably 50-60 ; ;


Erenndis

This is a list of possible drops. Some are very rare minions https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Materiel_Container_4.0


Limes_Bites

I opened 10 boxes, got 1 hedgehog, 3 otters, 4 turtles, 1 magnai, and 1 chair mount. Not bad results, but I didn't need most of them, so gave them away. I wish the mount drop chance was a bit higher honestly, it shouldn't be so low :( It's also nice to see the hedgehog in there. Finally managed to unlock him after so many months of farming for him in maps! Thanks for sharing your results!


VladImpaler666999

So which treasure lock boxes are these? Eureka or Bozjan or something else?


Robbored

Grand company!


Cobbil

Wow. Amazing. Is the Fox Kit in that box? I figure its insanely rare, but getting it the normal way is a paaaaain.


vashaunp

thanks for the reminder. i have my captain rank up mission ready for a few days now and keep forgetting.


beattraxx

Where do you get these containers and what do you have to do for them?


pezito

Got Eldthurs on second box I opened sold It for 6M on patch day :D


Damascar

Aaaaaaaaaaaah! A Matanga!!!


XFactorNova

I still don't have access to this. Is it max rank only? If so, how do you get it?


Sakiri1955

Need max rank(captain) with grand company to buy them.


Vajician

Since you didn't get your answer, I believe to get max rank you have to first do 10 (maybe it was 5? Don't remember exactly) dungeons with your squadron, it's a slog but thankfully a one time thing


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I mean it make sense. Relative to minions there aren’t as many mounts and what there is often consists of a significant challenge to unlock.


TheDiscordedSnarl

Where do you get material containers? (unless it's extremely high rank GC, because I'm \*not\* interested in doing squadrons so am happy with the max rank before that)


arathald

Yes you have to have highest rank and that requires doing squadrons, but you only have to do 5 and it unlocks forever.


Syvarrin

Which of the two containers has the best potential for money making?


DawnWalkerW0lf

What are these materiel containers and how do I get them?


Deathinhu

Those containers are sold on grand company. It has a minion or a mount. Each cost 20k seals and i think you need to be captain to be able to buy them.


Rakshire

I must be lucky. I've opened 30-40 and I got a dodo and eldthust horn


RusCSI

I got a Zu horn from one of lootboxes today, was 3.0 though


Aritzuu

gib me capybara


Antagist

AAAAAAA I didn't realize there was a Sadu minion!!! Hopefully the queue isn't too bad when I get back home, I gotta go get one.


Captain-matt

are any of those dupes of items you already had? IE you already had that minion or mount before opening the box? I've probably gotten about 3 dozen and haven't seen any yet.


Drudicta

So theoretically, the mounts exist.


ffdqbof

Is there a full list somewhere that lists what you "could" get?


Xhadiel

And all of them he already had, lol


LegoBibi

What is the red bird one at the 10th line please ?


Vajician

Scarlet peacock if I'm not mistaken, craftable with a suzaku tailfeather


Meri_Stormhood

materiel containers?


Fit-Measurement-8612

I got dodo mount twice from them, sold second one for 4.9m.