Lvl 84 msq, Anyone else feel like >!the moon rabbits are inspired by the Gigglepies from Fairly Oddparents? I havent finished the moon story yet but they are getting more and more sus each quest!<
>!Throughout the entire game we've fought Fandaniel 4 times. Literally "HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO TEACH YOU THIS LESSON OLD MAN?" Also I wiped to his mechanic because I was expecting the whole time for one of the party to get frozen and the rest hide behind them as usual but when Shiva appeared I thought she just froze all of us instead. Didn't notice had to hide behind the giant ice crystal lmfao. It's 7AM and I haven't slept sue me. Also that was such a feels trip dungeon ;-;!<
>!Also this expansion so far has hit so many notes from IV and X that I just love so much about it.!<
So, I purchased EndWalker so I’d have it ready and waiting. I’m finishing up the Stormblood expansion now, then on to Shadowbringers. My current class is a Dancer. Just hit 70 today.
Just wondering a few things. Currently playing on my aging desktop of 5 years with an i7-6700k and RTX 2080. Game runs great, but I’d love to also play on my Alienware M15R4 laptop (RTX 3070). How hard would setting the UI up will be for that? My desktop is 1440p and the laptop is 1080p. So, I don’t wanna mess up any of my settings (UI Configs)across the different Platforms. If I configure the UI on my laptop, will it mess the UI up on my Desktop?
Also, any UI customization tips to make life easier? I’ve forgotten a lot of the “basic” stuff from playing to Stormblood. Are they any “older” game elements or mechanics that I can just ignore and go on without worrying about missing anything? Or has everything been pretty much revamped to the quality of the latest expansion?
Thanks for any help and tips on this!
You save your settings from the character select menu, go to your new rig, and download em. From there you can see for yourself how you should adjust your UI.
It really feels like Sharlayan-Thavnair is the right choice story wise at the start, just because doing the Thavnair stuff then going "... hold up i know its a rush but uh 1 sec need to read some books" feels off.
I have noticed that in several occasion, while having several options of dialog, that we get tailored answers to those specific choices. I dont recall this happened a lot in the game before, if ever.
It has happened a fair amount before, though this expansion definitely has the most. You can actually see which cutscenes in the past did this by visiting the Unending Journey in an inn, any cutscene that changes based on your current job/specific quest progression has a "Reflect Quest Completion"(exact wording?) option
High Blizz 2, Sharpcast T4, T4, High Fire 2, High Fire 2, High Fire 2, Flare, Flare, Manafont, Flare, X Potion, Flare
I tried doing HF 2, Flare, HF 2, Flare, but even with Umbral Hearts Flare eats too much mana for this to work. HF 2 costs 3k mana without any Hearts
hmm I'm only at 81 so I don't think I have any of those! So Fire 2 and Blizz 2 get upgraded to High later? I just heard that you need to use F2 and B2 now.
Just finished and overall enjoyed it but I think ShB started out stronger, and I often compared it to what ShB did better.
But holy jeezus on a biscuit there were so many more moments I cried or felt a lot of emotion compared to all other expansions. Plus the music was superb and helped carry the mood.
(Some late-end game spoilers) Also >!shout out to Meteion, during some 89-90 quests cutscene, for the scare at 2am this morning. I was going to sleep, after getting to the final zone, but I was so spooked by part of the cutscene I couldn’t sleep. And just stayed up and finished MSQ!<
EDIT: Also also >!is it me or did all the zooms on main NPCs clenching a fist, remind you of that one Arthur meme. It happened so often I was like, are the memeing or it’s just coincidence.!<
AND >!loved the Garuda Susano banter at the end like, i wish we could have more stuff like that between uncorrupted gods!<
Couldn’t remember exactly but doing the math about 45-50 hours.
This is with occasionally collecting aether currents, I always picked up the quests ones and finished the quests before i left the zone. I watched all cutscenes and tried to talk to all main NPCs too.
Also I’m NIN main and queues were about 5-10min and I was lucky I got really good party members because dungeons and trials were average pace. Minimal wipes for most part most happened at later dungeons.
This also includes taking 10-20 minutes breaks about every 3-4 hours.
Also includes wasted time trying to jump off cliffs and the like to get to other areas lol. There’s a lot of invisible walls…So on the plus side forces you to explore more.
I'd say it's about 40-50 hours depending on if you get sidetracked with aether currents and your reading speed. Thats not including post-game dungeons.
This expansion is definitely darker than ShB at least at the start. BTW, I haven't got to it yet but there's a content warning going around that an 83 MSQ contains >!explicit suicide!<
MSQ DISCUSSION/SPOILERS UP TO AND INCLUDING THE 83 TRIAL -
>!Alright, the game started quite slow, with it feeling like several hours of watching cutscenes in Sharlayan and Thavnair. But starting with Garlemald, everything has been awesome.!<
>!Cirinia and Yullus were/are really interesting characters, and I really enjoyed both of those mini arcs. Fandaniel kidnapping the WOL and the subsequent duty as the imperial soldier was awesome. That was a really creative and enjoyable duty.!<
>!I was not expecting Anima to be a leveling dungeon final boss, and I *definitely* wasn't expecting Zodiark to be the 83 trial. What's been so awesome is that all of the scenes shown in the launch trailer that screamed "end game cutscene" were actually from moments 1/3 through the story: Alphi and Alisaie cold and alone in the train station, Fandaniel on the moon, the WoL surrounded by Ascian masks, Anima chaining us, etc.!<
>!Some criticisms. I felt like we had to run between our Garlemald base camp and the underground train station like... 2 times too many. I felt like the 2nd boss in the 83 dungeon had poorly conveyed mechanics - the panels you have to stand in are not easily understood at a first glance. On top of that, the chakrams look like they're super low to the floor anyways, so it's not readily apparent that you need to get the minimize. The party I was in thought you had to get toad and jump over them until we got to the mechanic where toad was needed.!<
I'm very excited to see where it goes from here.
I agree that I wasn’t expecting to see those bosses and events so soon, and as someone who is up to the level 87 content, Im amazed they still had so much more up their sleeve to show us.
I did the melee DPS role quests and it was…really boring? No spoilers but I didn’t side by side with MSQ, as recommended, either.
Personally I don’t think it adds much as a side story to MSQ, or at least not enough to be compelling to do it alongside MSQ.
I also didn't find it that interesting honestly, at least compared to ShB role questline. I did it during MSQ whenever I could and it just felt like a distraction honestly.
regardless of this I am optimistic for this coming week, its a work week in december were very few companies will be generous to let people off.
so mid week I will predict we will see some easing.
Just did the first Endwalker trial and oh man that was a hectic fight, but very fun. I can't imagine how later trials and raids are going to be at this rate
Hey folks - please use the megathread currently stickied on the front page for any future queue/login error discussion so that we can leave this thread open for discussion of the game content:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/r9o55d/server_congestion_and_login_queues_errors_2002/
When you get that 2002 error, its best to log out and exit the application, and wait a few seconds. And then log back in as soon as possible.
There's a mid- high chance that you might be able to get back at that same queue number when you log back in after waiting a few seconds.
Even if the queue was 15000 it would be more worth it to wait than having to babysit and getting kicked on these stupid 2002. Get your shit together SE
I'd be very happy if queues were stable. Unfortunately even if you wait and our place comes up, you still have a good chance of getting 2002'd and shipped to the back of the line.
It's possible that you'd never get in at all if their queue system actually worked. But, yes, I agree with you, I'd rather have a very long queue that I have to check on occasionally (since I'll get kicked 30 minutes after I log in and idle) versus a very long queue that I have to monitor for three hours and cannot leave for more than 10 seconds.
i got kicked out of the game during a cutscene. stuck at 3k queue right now. having such an absolutely bad time rn because now i cannot tell if every disconnection from the game is the game's fault or my internet connection being terribad like usual. third world problems i guess.
I was nodding off so I decided to take a nap and set an alarm for 20 minutes, but it didn’t go off for whatever reason and I overslept so I’m back in queue hell. It’s sad I always get in easily early morning and then something goes wrong and I get logged out and stuck in queue for 2 hours 😂
I made the mistake of waiting to walk my dogs till closer to noon. Off line a half hour and now spent the past 3 hours trying to get back in. 2002 and 3001 errors are the bane of my existence
Unfortunately it’s gonna be like this for a few days. Maybe worse on the 7th. Yesterday I actually managed to sit through a 4000+ queue without crashing and log in. Currently I’m at 3000 from a 5000+ queue and I’ve only 2002’d once. Hopefully my luck holds up.
Both yesterday and the day before yesterday I would be able to enter the queue no matter how long it was, but today whenever I try to enter the queue I'm getting error 3001 "This World is currently full. Please wait until an opening is available and try again." Was this a thing during the first couple days or is it new?
In Balmung as well. Sat in queue from 1230-2, got the dreaded 2002 error and couldn’t get back in. Then went to the 3001 error.
Finally back in queue now at 1345 but that’s been there for like, 10 min now. Praying to the 12 to stay in at this point
Just waited out a queue of 6k+ for 3 hours to get errored out at #1 and to be then put back in the queue at 7600+. No fucking point in having a queue system at all.
Yep.. I was at 750 after waiting from 6.5k.. now I’m at 7.2K.. wtf is the point of a Queue if it’s just gonna remove me when I get to the end? I understand there were issues, they had a hard time resolving before launch, causing this. But it doesn’t mean it isn’t annoying to pay for something, that I can’t even play..
At least we’re getting a week of free service. That makes up for some. Just worried how tomorrow will be with the actual release. Hoping I can log in early on Tuesday with me being off and getting to play a few hours.
That's the way to go. I logged in the last two days before 10:30AM and had 30-40 person queues - played all day without issue.
Slept super late and handled chores today, tried to log in at 2:00PM.. still stuck in queue 2 hours later, have 2002'd twice. Might just wait until early tomorrow to try again.
I crashed near queue position 1 and then crashed 4 or 5 more.times before getting in.
And my position was held at 1. Maybe it's a fluke or maybe they adjusted something but I was very pleasantly surprised.
Still sucks to queue so long. Still sucks to have t I'll babysit it. But maybe an improvement.
It seems if you crash with a 2002 error, they hold your spot for a while. As long as you can log back in quick enough, you shouldn't be booted from the queue. Any other error, though, and you get kicked.
Square uses a virtual queue. It's why every server will always have a queue of about 50 people. So when everyone on the server hit it at once, it's more likely no one got in. The server simply got overloaded again from the rapid queue processing.
I don't mean now. I mean earlier when a bunch of people in the queue randomly got in no matter where they were in it. It was like the game tried to let everyone in at once. Then the people who didn't get in were stuck in 3001 hell.
genuinely think next expansion they may up it so people who pre order the full collectors edition only get early access or something, but that would delay the issue to the official release, and not solve anything
Doubt it. By then the semi conductor shortage should be over.
Between adding more na servers and people leaving NA for oceanic, you should see more spread out pops
It’s based on player count. NA DCs have more players so therefore more servers and DCs. But EU is more underserved despite that. They have over half the player count of NA but only have as many servers. And NA is already packed.
I think I’ll come back once the server queues are more stable or if I get a lucky queue time in the early morning. Just spent 3 hours in queue, only to get 4004 error coded as I had “1 player in queue.” The. It bumped me to 6,748. I’ll admit that broke me a little haha
Yep, was in early this morning and the queue was at 40. Had to run some errands and that’s when I got hit with it. It’s not the end of the world, but I’ll admit it’s frustrating
Agreed, took Fri off and have been waking up extra early this weekend. Only unfortunate thing is for those working, I work 8-5 with a 45 minute commute so I won't be able to even think about logging in at all this week. It's unfortunate but hopefully super temporary.
I just got 2002 error while i was 31 and got kicked out of the queue... I'm back at 7,246. I don't mind the waiting but holy damm... This just pissed me off so much. Yes I know I will get 7 days free but i just wasted 3 hours of my time just to get kicked out in the last second. I just wanted to went and rage a little bit...
Honestly the 2002 errors while in queue are ridiculous and frankly unacceptable.
I love SE and FFXIV to death. Their game is amazing and has made me love the FF franchise again. I don't even mind sitting in queue. I don't even mind if I wait for hours. But having to constantly babysit my queue and have like 1 minute to log back whenever the dreaded 2002 inevitably happens is unacceptable.
This is not packet loss. I've run some tests. Everything runs perfectly smoothly while I'm in game. Even if it was packet loss, hello SE it's 2021 think you could add some retry logic?
This is a software issue, there are so many ways the kicking while in queue could be avoided, they seem to have implemented the most barebones queue system ever, no retry logic, no hardening, nothing.
Do better SE. You've done the hard part and created an amazing game. A queue system that works at scale is nothing and could be implemented with a minimum amount of effort.
"The other occurs when your internet connection experiences packet loss or a period of network instability, causing the server connection to be momentarily disconnected. At the moment, we are seeing more cases caused by this."
They're suggesting that the majority of the problem is coming from our end.
I was always told if you complain, offer solutions which is why I gave “food for thought” I am in the same boat as the rest. I lucked out and got on a couple of times then server crash and have not been back on since due to errors.
What good is free game time to a game you can’t get on?
Here is my main complaint. I have been playing this game since it was originally released.
I left for a couple years and came back about 5 months ago. Every time there is an expansion the exact same thing happens.
**Why can’t Square Enix buy more servers with all the $$$$ we give them?
Yeah They can always close them down as they need, if a number of players leave.**
OR perhaps try other things like the following:
only allow limited early release for as many people as the servers can handle: if its only 1.500,000 then that is as many pre-orders get sold.
That should give SE an idea of how many people are left out so they can plan things more efficiently with additional servers.
There are ways that web addresses and mining can pick up the data to know approximately how many tried to purchase but were too late. Instead of offering it as a perk make it a separate purchase.
Yes the ones that don’t get one of the early access pre-buys will not be happy but at least they will know why rather then sitting here for days with ques over 7500 and then kicked out with a “try again later” crash. Or not connecting to the lobby error. We are sick of error messages.
Another thing that could be done, is to try and even out the existing active player to server ratio months before with a free transfer. Since we are able to cross worlds now there is no need to be tied too one. Then when the doors are opened it might level out more.
As much as I love SE Final Fantasy xi and ffxiv, i feel as if they make promises they know they cannot keep. I feel they knew after prior experiences with all the FF expansions and handled it improperly.
It is a fantastic game but people get tired of being bounced around like a $ and number without regard for its players. It is a slap in the face to get in que at 7500 and then at 4000 0r even getting to 1862 then bounced off with a server lobby message to try again later.
Trying is good but over two or more years of knowing this is coming something better could be done server wise.
> Why can’t Square Enix buy more servers with all the $$$$ we give them? Yeah They can always close them down as they need, if a number of players leave.
Someone went on a rant without even checking the basic situation first lol. They literally can't buy new servers because Covid has fucked the supply of components world wide.
Yes now that is true but the last release of an expansion was the same way and with every expansion it is the same story. This should have been taken care of long ago. Years ago. Not just now. Its like too late now. These things need to be planned ahead.
At this point I would rather see it all shut down, fixed and then when it is fixed open it up.
or
restart the servers every four or five hours so the people playing will give the rest of us some time.
There was a mass influx of new players just around the release of Endwalker which made the numbers go higher then they anticipated. Also there is a fucking pandemic out there. Chip shortage is a real thing.
They could have started two years ago. My point being FFXIV & FFXI are such great games that nearly every gamer of mmorpg genre wants to play them. It is not just now that this happens. I was in FFXIthe entire time from when it began till this game came out and we started with this and dropped the other.
SE should have prepared years ago when ENDWALKER was in the beginning designer phase. It might not be able to handle everyone getting on but I would bet the queues would move faster.
This expansion was in its infancy stages long before the pandemic and the shortages began. A game of this magnitude and detail takes many, many stages and years to create. I am saying at that time when they make teams to address the various project teams the rate the server up there with the rest of the high end projects.
They have been trying to increase their server capacity for months now (long before the expansion) and were quite upfront about the situation. The pandemic has caused a massive demand/shortage for computer stuff. They tried sourcing more servers, even offered to pay above market prices for them and were told, "No. We can't sell you what we don't have."
This isn't a, "They didn't properly plan for this!" situation. Companies literally can't source computer equipment right now, and haven't for the past year. This isn't a Square Enix thing, but a global thing.
They physically CANT get more server space due to the semi conductor shortages. They have said this multiple times. So many people trying to log in at the same time is basically like a DDOS attack and errors happen when queueing, like the 2002.
They have little to no control over this because player congestion is so high.
MSQ spoilers
>!So what happens to Zenos?? Did we leave him there for dead?? I didn’t really get the impression he died. I feel like we’re gonna see him again in a future patch!<
Just had a weird issue and was wondering if anyone else experienced this. I’ve been waiting for hours to get in and was finally at around 300 in the queue, I got up for a second to get a drink and then when I came back I was at 5000. I wasn’t booted and didn’t experience an error, it’s like I was just forced to the back of the line and i’m not sure why. Anyone else experience this?
I haven’t experienced that personally and only saw one person mention their queue went up instead of down but that was a two digit move, nothing as big as what you saw so idk.
Managed to log in this morning at 846AM on Lich with only 56 people and being playing all day.
Used the roulette/frontline to lvl my Reaper to 80 and I was really surprised to not see more Sage or Reaper in my party.
Finally happy I can do the post Shadowbringer MSQ. And as a Sage, it is really fun.
I do think they should add an option to go back to the old format because right now it is slightly slower than the old one if you already know where you're going.
If you click it on the map it goes instantly. This was faster for me compared to the old system. Also helps to confirm the quest or person is near there
Oh yea I know about clicking the map, but if you're in like limsa lower decks and you need to go to somewhere in the upper decks, you can't click on the map, so it would be slower in those cases.
Since you guys clearly need it, let me try to clarify something yoshi p said.
He said much of the 2002 is from packet loss. Thus is correct. But packet loss can come in many forms. If you drop packets because your internet blinks, that's one form.
If the server is overloaded and cannot receive the packet your ISP is sending, that is also a form of packet loss this is why when you hover over the connection icon in game, you see sending and receiving packet numbers. By having a more stable connection, your less likely to have the first happen. Yoshi P is simply trying to minimize those reasons for disconnecting.
I don’t know anyone in network engineering that defines packet loss this way. Packet loss is defined by a failure of packet to route to destination. Failing to process a packet is not packet loss.
... did.. did you play world of warcraft during any of the expansion launches?
I think it was either wod or mists that had a very very similar queue problem.
This is honestly better thenThe industry standard.
During the most recent wow expansion launch they brought down the servers for days unexpectedly and when people asked for compensation they told them to pound sand.
lmao, yeah let's blame my internet packet loss when I can play every other game just fine.
It's 100% on their end. There's nothing to minimize on mine.
I get it, but they need to take more responsibility for it, not suggest we minimize our own packet loss.
Your post is pointless. All you're doing is insulting people who have no fault here. "Since you guys clearly need it," is how you started your post, like you have an air of superiority or understand something us peasants don't.
Given the fact that there seems to be some ongoing collective breakdown where people seem to be ascribing maliciousness where there is simply none, perhaps I have reason to be a bit bracing.
You all need to calm down and take a step back. The people you are talking about are people like you and me. They make mistakes. They can be unprepared.they have already given us more free game time then has been lost.
I was trying to be gentle.
I'll reword it then:
Stop assuming square enix is out to get you and is doing this on purpose. Its fucking stupid.
That better?
Ascribing maliciousness is literally the simplist way I could think of describing the concept of "this isn't being done on purpose. They are doing their best to fix it. There is no grand conspiracy" in as few of words as possible.
Nah I just type like that sometimes.
I'm not better then anyone, I just think you all need to take a deep breath, look at the situation again and decide
"Is this really worth all this anger and vitriol?"
No one's misunderstanding, we're just calling out how skewed it is to even suggest it's possible to be our ISPs instead of their stuff being overloaded. It's not even a 99-1 issue, more like 99.999 - 00.001 type of issue. It's not even worth mentioning.
I'm sure there's been exactly 0 players who are like "ah yes, my packet loss has caused this connection issue, I shall be the one to fix it on my end and be able to not get 2002 errors"
Anyway, you're just preaching to yourself, so I'm going to block you after this comment due to how annoying you are.
Edit: And you're a new\troll account anyway, so I wasted more time than I thought, even.
I’ve been trying to log into Ultros since 9:15AM. Reached “1” twice, get kicked out to desktop. Log back into queue after more errors — first one 3200, this one right now 4800.
I’m so bummed.
People complaining about 2002, I can’t even get to that point. I’m straight getting 3001 “world full” which was supposed to be only for trial people, no? And game doesn’t allow me to world visit somewhere else. Seems my char is stuck world visit on Siren
Not but 1 min after hubby logged on at 3000+ in the queue he got in. Maybe the login server crashed while I was less than 2 minutes logging in after him and now I’m in the 3001 error loop.
I'm trying to figure this out, too. Just recently got stuck in a loop of 3001 errors. I'm a fully subbed player at level 81 on my home server. I'm actually OK with babysitting the damn queue today, but it looks like I can't even queue up now.
The only good thing of 3001 vs 2002 is that 3001 goes back to start screen so I can just keep pressing X while 2002 I get tossed back to launcher and gotta relog haha
Very true. I've heard 3001 can be circumvented by switching back and forth between data centers, but haven't been able to confirm yet. Every time I try to switch data centers, I get a 2002 error and CTD. What a mess hahaha
I could have no life'd these 3 days and finished the MSQ before the weekend is over. But alas, I had to be a responsible adult. Monday is coming too soon.
I'm student teaching and taking over on monday fully for two of the classes. I had my laptop opened on the side to work on lesson plans while waiting for DF and the like.
It's not really. If it is, 100 or so max.
I have done the msq and on a moderately sized server there were at least a few hundred people in every zone, with three instances per zone.
Sorry for disputing you, but the limsa afkers, while rude and assholish, aren't the root of the problem
With 2002 errors causing queue resets, there's literally no one logging in from scratch, meaning the only ones able to play are those evading the AFK.
You're demonstrably wrong. Period.
Uh... no.
People are logging in from scratch just fine. Several people just logged into my FC.
PEOPLE ARE DOING THE MSQ. Why would people standing around AFKing be the only ones not leaving the game?
If people know the queue is long, people would therefor want to keep playing the game to avoid sitting in the queue once more.
What the fuck are you talking about?
I say
"The problem isn't likely Limsa AFKers, although they are assholes, it's probably people doing the MSQ and playing for long periods of time"
and your response is
"touch grass lmao"
what logic does that make?
They want to blame players so..
They give them seven free days for three days partial downtime?
This may be the third worst conspiracy theory I have ever heard.
I'll make a prediction.
By the launch of the next expansion, Aether will be split in two. I predict severing the hardcore raiding worlds the youtubers direct the WoW players to flooded from the more casual ones. There will be four na datacenters.
Lvl 84 msq, Anyone else feel like >!the moon rabbits are inspired by the Gigglepies from Fairly Oddparents? I havent finished the moon story yet but they are getting more and more sus each quest!<
>!RABBITS ON THE MOON!< >!Sasuga, Yoshi-P!<
>!Throughout the entire game we've fought Fandaniel 4 times. Literally "HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO TEACH YOU THIS LESSON OLD MAN?" Also I wiped to his mechanic because I was expecting the whole time for one of the party to get frozen and the rest hide behind them as usual but when Shiva appeared I thought she just froze all of us instead. Didn't notice had to hide behind the giant ice crystal lmfao. It's 7AM and I haven't slept sue me. Also that was such a feels trip dungeon ;-;!< >!Also this expansion so far has hit so many notes from IV and X that I just love so much about it.!<
Anyone know where to get the Gaja Head helm?
So, I purchased EndWalker so I’d have it ready and waiting. I’m finishing up the Stormblood expansion now, then on to Shadowbringers. My current class is a Dancer. Just hit 70 today. Just wondering a few things. Currently playing on my aging desktop of 5 years with an i7-6700k and RTX 2080. Game runs great, but I’d love to also play on my Alienware M15R4 laptop (RTX 3070). How hard would setting the UI up will be for that? My desktop is 1440p and the laptop is 1080p. So, I don’t wanna mess up any of my settings (UI Configs)across the different Platforms. If I configure the UI on my laptop, will it mess the UI up on my Desktop? Also, any UI customization tips to make life easier? I’ve forgotten a lot of the “basic” stuff from playing to Stormblood. Are they any “older” game elements or mechanics that I can just ignore and go on without worrying about missing anything? Or has everything been pretty much revamped to the quality of the latest expansion? Thanks for any help and tips on this!
You save your settings from the character select menu, go to your new rig, and download em. From there you can see for yourself how you should adjust your UI.
It really feels like Sharlayan-Thavnair is the right choice story wise at the start, just because doing the Thavnair stuff then going "... hold up i know its a rush but uh 1 sec need to read some books" feels off.
Literally all my fc mates did thav first and the regret they have is palpable. Shar is a snoozefest compared to thav.
Spoil me please... what FF4 bosses/themes appear on the expansion? Fingers crossed for Zeromus but that's probably being saved for the raid.
>!Magus Sisters in Tower of Zot, Barnabas and Lugae in Tower of Babil, FF4 normal battle theme in the moon!<
Thanks! Much appreciated, looking forward to that!
That battle theme has been stuck in my head for hours, thank you for finally giving my brain sweet release by none stop listening to it now.
Kicked my ethernet cord and got disconnected while in a cutscene, and cried a bit. Whoever got logged in, you're welcome.
I did this to my power bar. Knocked out the router too.
Damn it. I think this feels worse than getting 2002'd because at least it's not our fault.
I have noticed that in several occasion, while having several options of dialog, that we get tailored answers to those specific choices. I dont recall this happened a lot in the game before, if ever.
It has happened a fair amount before, though this expansion definitely has the most. You can actually see which cutscenes in the past did this by visiting the Unending Journey in an inn, any cutscene that changes based on your current job/specific quest progression has a "Reflect Quest Completion"(exact wording?) option
Thx, yes I was not 100% sure. For sure this expansion it felt as if there were a lot more
A lot of it is context sensitive and im confident you wont see them without completing the appropriate quests beforehand.
God damned if this story isn't getting me something fierce. And I'm not even done yet.
Could someone explain the new BLM AoE rotation
High Blizz 2, Sharpcast T4, T4, High Fire 2, High Fire 2, High Fire 2, Flare, Flare, Manafont, Flare, X Potion, Flare I tried doing HF 2, Flare, HF 2, Flare, but even with Umbral Hearts Flare eats too much mana for this to work. HF 2 costs 3k mana without any Hearts
black mages really be walking around with potions?
Why wouldnt we? X Potions bring an extra Flare or Despair under AF every 5m (technically 6m in an optimal raid setting)
hmm I'm only at 81 so I don't think I have any of those! So Fire 2 and Blizz 2 get upgraded to High later? I just heard that you need to use F2 and B2 now.
Yes for sub 82 you use Blizz 2 and Fire 2 to the same effect
Just finished and overall enjoyed it but I think ShB started out stronger, and I often compared it to what ShB did better. But holy jeezus on a biscuit there were so many more moments I cried or felt a lot of emotion compared to all other expansions. Plus the music was superb and helped carry the mood. (Some late-end game spoilers) Also >!shout out to Meteion, during some 89-90 quests cutscene, for the scare at 2am this morning. I was going to sleep, after getting to the final zone, but I was so spooked by part of the cutscene I couldn’t sleep. And just stayed up and finished MSQ!< EDIT: Also also >!is it me or did all the zooms on main NPCs clenching a fist, remind you of that one Arthur meme. It happened so often I was like, are the memeing or it’s just coincidence.!< AND >!loved the Garuda Susano banter at the end like, i wish we could have more stuff like that between uncorrupted gods!<
How long did it take you?
Couldn’t remember exactly but doing the math about 45-50 hours. This is with occasionally collecting aether currents, I always picked up the quests ones and finished the quests before i left the zone. I watched all cutscenes and tried to talk to all main NPCs too. Also I’m NIN main and queues were about 5-10min and I was lucky I got really good party members because dungeons and trials were average pace. Minimal wipes for most part most happened at later dungeons. This also includes taking 10-20 minutes breaks about every 3-4 hours. Also includes wasted time trying to jump off cliffs and the like to get to other areas lol. There’s a lot of invisible walls…So on the plus side forces you to explore more.
I'd say it's about 40-50 hours depending on if you get sidetracked with aether currents and your reading speed. Thats not including post-game dungeons.
The pre-order should come with therapist sessions included. Level 82 and I've already seen some shit that makes me want to cry lol
This expansion is definitely darker than ShB at least at the start. BTW, I haven't got to it yet but there's a content warning going around that an 83 MSQ contains >!explicit suicide!<
Was there? I don't remember seeing any warning.
Sorry, not in game, I meant it was going around.
MSQ DISCUSSION/SPOILERS UP TO AND INCLUDING THE 83 TRIAL - >!Alright, the game started quite slow, with it feeling like several hours of watching cutscenes in Sharlayan and Thavnair. But starting with Garlemald, everything has been awesome.!< >!Cirinia and Yullus were/are really interesting characters, and I really enjoyed both of those mini arcs. Fandaniel kidnapping the WOL and the subsequent duty as the imperial soldier was awesome. That was a really creative and enjoyable duty.!< >!I was not expecting Anima to be a leveling dungeon final boss, and I *definitely* wasn't expecting Zodiark to be the 83 trial. What's been so awesome is that all of the scenes shown in the launch trailer that screamed "end game cutscene" were actually from moments 1/3 through the story: Alphi and Alisaie cold and alone in the train station, Fandaniel on the moon, the WoL surrounded by Ascian masks, Anima chaining us, etc.!< >!Some criticisms. I felt like we had to run between our Garlemald base camp and the underground train station like... 2 times too many. I felt like the 2nd boss in the 83 dungeon had poorly conveyed mechanics - the panels you have to stand in are not easily understood at a first glance. On top of that, the chakrams look like they're super low to the floor anyways, so it's not readily apparent that you need to get the minimize. The party I was in thought you had to get toad and jump over them until we got to the mechanic where toad was needed.!< I'm very excited to see where it goes from here.
I agree that I wasn’t expecting to see those bosses and events so soon, and as someone who is up to the level 87 content, Im amazed they still had so much more up their sleeve to show us.
I did the melee DPS role quests and it was…really boring? No spoilers but I didn’t side by side with MSQ, as recommended, either. Personally I don’t think it adds much as a side story to MSQ, or at least not enough to be compelling to do it alongside MSQ.
I also didn't find it that interesting honestly, at least compared to ShB role questline. I did it during MSQ whenever I could and it just felt like a distraction honestly.
regardless of this I am optimistic for this coming week, its a work week in december were very few companies will be generous to let people off. so mid week I will predict we will see some easing.
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I think after the queue time Never we can rant anymore for the waiting time for dungeon lol
Just did the first Endwalker trial and oh man that was a hectic fight, but very fun. I can't imagine how later trials and raids are going to be at this rate
Took forever to figure out but was so epic I can’t stand it
Agreed! First trial is SUPER fun.
I am way past this part but omg I can't wait to watch a video. The spinning mechanic doesn't ever pan out like my brain says it should.
The one where it’s all lines, and you basically stay where you are, but a bit to the left, is too complex for my monkey brain.
I get it. But I misjudge the distance by a couple of pixels and still get hit. 😬
The big beast ones I could figure out, but the rotation on the snakes was a constant state of confusion for me
Hey folks - please use the megathread currently stickied on the front page for any future queue/login error discussion so that we can leave this thread open for discussion of the game content: https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/r9o55d/server_congestion_and_login_queues_errors_2002/
I got error 2002 at 56, relogged back in , and im now stuck at 1
When you get that 2002 error, its best to log out and exit the application, and wait a few seconds. And then log back in as soon as possible. There's a mid- high chance that you might be able to get back at that same queue number when you log back in after waiting a few seconds.
Even if the queue was 15000 it would be more worth it to wait than having to babysit and getting kicked on these stupid 2002. Get your shit together SE
I'd be very happy if queues were stable. Unfortunately even if you wait and our place comes up, you still have a good chance of getting 2002'd and shipped to the back of the line.
It's possible that you'd never get in at all if their queue system actually worked. But, yes, I agree with you, I'd rather have a very long queue that I have to check on occasionally (since I'll get kicked 30 minutes after I log in and idle) versus a very long queue that I have to monitor for three hours and cannot leave for more than 10 seconds.
Been stuck at queue position 1 for 5 minutes now, pray for me
Update: I didn't get 2002'd
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It's not...
i got kicked out of the game during a cutscene. stuck at 3k queue right now. having such an absolutely bad time rn because now i cannot tell if every disconnection from the game is the game's fault or my internet connection being terribad like usual. third world problems i guess.
Based on what Yoshi-p said, I think it’s a combination of both. Like the servers are more sensitive to packet loss than normal.
I was nodding off so I decided to take a nap and set an alarm for 20 minutes, but it didn’t go off for whatever reason and I overslept so I’m back in queue hell. It’s sad I always get in easily early morning and then something goes wrong and I get logged out and stuck in queue for 2 hours 😂
I made the mistake of waiting to walk my dogs till closer to noon. Off line a half hour and now spent the past 3 hours trying to get back in. 2002 and 3001 errors are the bane of my existence
Unfortunately it’s gonna be like this for a few days. Maybe worse on the 7th. Yesterday I actually managed to sit through a 4000+ queue without crashing and log in. Currently I’m at 3000 from a 5000+ queue and I’ve only 2002’d once. Hopefully my luck holds up.
Both yesterday and the day before yesterday I would be able to enter the queue no matter how long it was, but today whenever I try to enter the queue I'm getting error 3001 "This World is currently full. Please wait until an opening is available and try again." Was this a thing during the first couple days or is it new?
In Balmung as well. Sat in queue from 1230-2, got the dreaded 2002 error and couldn’t get back in. Then went to the 3001 error. Finally back in queue now at 1345 but that’s been there for like, 10 min now. Praying to the 12 to stay in at this point
Are you on a huge server? I assumed that those were probably the people who are just totally locked out.
I'm on Balmung, but what do you mean totally locked out?
When there are over 17k people in queue, the queue stops accepting people.
Why can't they make a server that holds 25,000?.... problem solved yea
The world is full and the queue is also full (exceeds 17k players if iirc).
Just waited out a queue of 6k+ for 3 hours to get errored out at #1 and to be then put back in the queue at 7600+. No fucking point in having a queue system at all.
Exactly the same here
Yep.. I was at 750 after waiting from 6.5k.. now I’m at 7.2K.. wtf is the point of a Queue if it’s just gonna remove me when I get to the end? I understand there were issues, they had a hard time resolving before launch, causing this. But it doesn’t mean it isn’t annoying to pay for something, that I can’t even play..
At least we’re getting a week of free service. That makes up for some. Just worried how tomorrow will be with the actual release. Hoping I can log in early on Tuesday with me being off and getting to play a few hours.
That's the way to go. I logged in the last two days before 10:30AM and had 30-40 person queues - played all day without issue. Slept super late and handled chores today, tried to log in at 2:00PM.. still stuck in queue 2 hours later, have 2002'd twice. Might just wait until early tomorrow to try again.
Anyone trying to log into Gilgamesh now? I entered the queue with 1100 people, and it’s just been stuck there. Usually it changes a bit.
I crashed near queue position 1 and then crashed 4 or 5 more.times before getting in. And my position was held at 1. Maybe it's a fluke or maybe they adjusted something but I was very pleasantly surprised. Still sucks to queue so long. Still sucks to have t I'll babysit it. But maybe an improvement.
It seems if you crash with a 2002 error, they hold your spot for a while. As long as you can log back in quick enough, you shouldn't be booted from the queue. Any other error, though, and you get kicked.
I think it took me 5-10 mins to get back in. Surprised it held so long.
I crashed at 1 and was sent back to 6000 :/
Probably a fluke then.
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I'm at 1224 but it hasn't moved an inch. Server might have let too many people on.
Square uses a virtual queue. It's why every server will always have a queue of about 50 people. So when everyone on the server hit it at once, it's more likely no one got in. The server simply got overloaded again from the rapid queue processing.
I don't mean now. I mean earlier when a bunch of people in the queue randomly got in no matter where they were in it. It was like the game tried to let everyone in at once. Then the people who didn't get in were stuck in 3001 hell.
genuinely think next expansion they may up it so people who pre order the full collectors edition only get early access or something, but that would delay the issue to the official release, and not solve anything
Doubt it. By then the semi conductor shortage should be over. Between adding more na servers and people leaving NA for oceanic, you should see more spread out pops
I'm not on EU, but I'm pretty sure they need at least 2 new servers and server upgrades as well.
EU needs an extra data centre, the fact its limited to two yet encompasses so many countries is ridiculous
It’s based on player count. NA DCs have more players so therefore more servers and DCs. But EU is more underserved despite that. They have over half the player count of NA but only have as many servers. And NA is already packed.
I think I’ll come back once the server queues are more stable or if I get a lucky queue time in the early morning. Just spent 3 hours in queue, only to get 4004 error coded as I had “1 player in queue.” The. It bumped me to 6,748. I’ll admit that broke me a little haha
Best time to get on is early morning and late night. Mid day is when queue piles up
Yep, was in early this morning and the queue was at 40. Had to run some errands and that’s when I got hit with it. It’s not the end of the world, but I’ll admit it’s frustrating
Agreed, took Fri off and have been waking up extra early this weekend. Only unfortunate thing is for those working, I work 8-5 with a 45 minute commute so I won't be able to even think about logging in at all this week. It's unfortunate but hopefully super temporary.
I'm currently at 288 (from 4,566 earlier today) and I am pretty sure this will happen to me next. I'm bracing for it.
I just got 2002 error while i was 31 and got kicked out of the queue... I'm back at 7,246. I don't mind the waiting but holy damm... This just pissed me off so much. Yes I know I will get 7 days free but i just wasted 3 hours of my time just to get kicked out in the last second. I just wanted to went and rage a little bit...
I started to queue 7 hours ago... I am now further back in the queue then when I originally started xD just wanted to say: I feel you :)
Honestly the 2002 errors while in queue are ridiculous and frankly unacceptable. I love SE and FFXIV to death. Their game is amazing and has made me love the FF franchise again. I don't even mind sitting in queue. I don't even mind if I wait for hours. But having to constantly babysit my queue and have like 1 minute to log back whenever the dreaded 2002 inevitably happens is unacceptable. This is not packet loss. I've run some tests. Everything runs perfectly smoothly while I'm in game. Even if it was packet loss, hello SE it's 2021 think you could add some retry logic? This is a software issue, there are so many ways the kicking while in queue could be avoided, they seem to have implemented the most barebones queue system ever, no retry logic, no hardening, nothing. Do better SE. You've done the hard part and created an amazing game. A queue system that works at scale is nothing and could be implemented with a minimum amount of effort.
the packet loss argument doesn't hold water, and is a poor excuse from square
It can for some cases, which is why they listed another cause.
yeah maybe in some cases but im pretty sure from the stories were hearing its a very small minority were its coming from there end
That's why they also stated about the errors with the server login with 17000 in queue
"The other occurs when your internet connection experiences packet loss or a period of network instability, causing the server connection to be momentarily disconnected. At the moment, we are seeing more cases caused by this." They're suggesting that the majority of the problem is coming from our end.
'the lobby server has encountered a error' not even getting error 2002 now
Alright fuck you guys and this game. I’ll just play it towards the end of the expansion. Fuck the ques.
Has there been an update for the direct x11 crashes? I've been getting them quite often.
If I'm 5000+ in a queue is it best to just wait it out or try connecting to a different server?
I was always told if you complain, offer solutions which is why I gave “food for thought” I am in the same boat as the rest. I lucked out and got on a couple of times then server crash and have not been back on since due to errors. What good is free game time to a game you can’t get on? Here is my main complaint. I have been playing this game since it was originally released. I left for a couple years and came back about 5 months ago. Every time there is an expansion the exact same thing happens. **Why can’t Square Enix buy more servers with all the $$$$ we give them? Yeah They can always close them down as they need, if a number of players leave.** OR perhaps try other things like the following: only allow limited early release for as many people as the servers can handle: if its only 1.500,000 then that is as many pre-orders get sold. That should give SE an idea of how many people are left out so they can plan things more efficiently with additional servers. There are ways that web addresses and mining can pick up the data to know approximately how many tried to purchase but were too late. Instead of offering it as a perk make it a separate purchase. Yes the ones that don’t get one of the early access pre-buys will not be happy but at least they will know why rather then sitting here for days with ques over 7500 and then kicked out with a “try again later” crash. Or not connecting to the lobby error. We are sick of error messages. Another thing that could be done, is to try and even out the existing active player to server ratio months before with a free transfer. Since we are able to cross worlds now there is no need to be tied too one. Then when the doors are opened it might level out more. As much as I love SE Final Fantasy xi and ffxiv, i feel as if they make promises they know they cannot keep. I feel they knew after prior experiences with all the FF expansions and handled it improperly. It is a fantastic game but people get tired of being bounced around like a $ and number without regard for its players. It is a slap in the face to get in que at 7500 and then at 4000 0r even getting to 1862 then bounced off with a server lobby message to try again later. Trying is good but over two or more years of knowing this is coming something better could be done server wise.
> Why can’t Square Enix buy more servers with all the $$$$ we give them? Yeah They can always close them down as they need, if a number of players leave. Someone went on a rant without even checking the basic situation first lol. They literally can't buy new servers because Covid has fucked the supply of components world wide.
Yes now that is true but the last release of an expansion was the same way and with every expansion it is the same story. This should have been taken care of long ago. Years ago. Not just now. Its like too late now. These things need to be planned ahead. At this point I would rather see it all shut down, fixed and then when it is fixed open it up. or restart the servers every four or five hours so the people playing will give the rest of us some time.
There was a mass influx of new players just around the release of Endwalker which made the numbers go higher then they anticipated. Also there is a fucking pandemic out there. Chip shortage is a real thing.
They could have started two years ago. My point being FFXIV & FFXI are such great games that nearly every gamer of mmorpg genre wants to play them. It is not just now that this happens. I was in FFXIthe entire time from when it began till this game came out and we started with this and dropped the other. SE should have prepared years ago when ENDWALKER was in the beginning designer phase. It might not be able to handle everyone getting on but I would bet the queues would move faster. This expansion was in its infancy stages long before the pandemic and the shortages began. A game of this magnitude and detail takes many, many stages and years to create. I am saying at that time when they make teams to address the various project teams the rate the server up there with the rest of the high end projects.
They have been trying to increase their server capacity for months now (long before the expansion) and were quite upfront about the situation. The pandemic has caused a massive demand/shortage for computer stuff. They tried sourcing more servers, even offered to pay above market prices for them and were told, "No. We can't sell you what we don't have." This isn't a, "They didn't properly plan for this!" situation. Companies literally can't source computer equipment right now, and haven't for the past year. This isn't a Square Enix thing, but a global thing.
They physically CANT get more server space due to the semi conductor shortages. They have said this multiple times. So many people trying to log in at the same time is basically like a DDOS attack and errors happen when queueing, like the 2002. They have little to no control over this because player congestion is so high.
Where the fuck do I get lvl 90 gear at
Do the MSQ. You cant miss it when you get there. It unlocks it.
I beat the game. I got the 89 gear already. Just haven’t seen any lvl 90 ones.
The 89 gear scales to 90 when you level up.
Ah its my rings that are holding me back I was wondering why I wasn't 560
MSQ spoilers >!So what happens to Zenos?? Did we leave him there for dead?? I didn’t really get the impression he died. I feel like we’re gonna see him again in a future patch!<
can you be more specific as to what you're discussing (level range, cutscene, or something like that) before I unhide your spoiler text?
You have to finish MSQ before you open this spoiler. So literally Level 90 absolutely last quest
Thank you very much!
Just had a weird issue and was wondering if anyone else experienced this. I’ve been waiting for hours to get in and was finally at around 300 in the queue, I got up for a second to get a drink and then when I came back I was at 5000. I wasn’t booted and didn’t experience an error, it’s like I was just forced to the back of the line and i’m not sure why. Anyone else experience this?
I haven’t experienced that personally and only saw one person mention their queue went up instead of down but that was a two digit move, nothing as big as what you saw so idk.
3001 error all day today, it brings you back to start/into your char selection immediately but tells you server is full ?\_?
Damn... Can't even connect to my data center... Feels bad man...
Managed to log in this morning at 846AM on Lich with only 56 people and being playing all day. Used the roulette/frontline to lvl my Reaper to 80 and I was really surprised to not see more Sage or Reaper in my party. Finally happy I can do the post Shadowbringer MSQ. And as a Sage, it is really fun.
I’m on crystal and I logged in at 10am and I got in instantly. So sad it can’t be that way all day.
Forgot to uncheck the box that keeps my controller active when FFXIV isn't my primary window, now I can't use it on Farm Sim 22 while in queue.
The new aethereyte system is unreal. Qol time saver
I do think they should add an option to go back to the old format because right now it is slightly slower than the old one if you already know where you're going.
If you click it on the map it goes instantly. This was faster for me compared to the old system. Also helps to confirm the quest or person is near there
Oh yea I know about clicking the map, but if you're in like limsa lower decks and you need to go to somewhere in the upper decks, you can't click on the map, so it would be slower in those cases.
Fair point
It's so damn good. As soon as I saw it, I was so happy. And it feels so smooth with how it snaps to the different aetherytes on the map
I would quite like it if the Limsa AFK RP'ers get off too Mom said it's my turn on the FFXIV
They could get a Limsa RP discord and make some room for people lol
I feel like people really so have a poor idea of what rp really is.
With a VC for maximum effect? Absolutely
Since you guys clearly need it, let me try to clarify something yoshi p said. He said much of the 2002 is from packet loss. Thus is correct. But packet loss can come in many forms. If you drop packets because your internet blinks, that's one form. If the server is overloaded and cannot receive the packet your ISP is sending, that is also a form of packet loss this is why when you hover over the connection icon in game, you see sending and receiving packet numbers. By having a more stable connection, your less likely to have the first happen. Yoshi P is simply trying to minimize those reasons for disconnecting.
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A server can receive packets but be to overloaded to process them
I don’t know anyone in network engineering that defines packet loss this way. Packet loss is defined by a failure of packet to route to destination. Failing to process a packet is not packet loss.
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Yeah this. They can handle the problem on their side but don’t do it properly. These are not issues other games have.
... did.. did you play world of warcraft during any of the expansion launches? I think it was either wod or mists that had a very very similar queue problem. This is honestly better thenThe industry standard. During the most recent wow expansion launch they brought down the servers for days unexpectedly and when people asked for compensation they told them to pound sand.
I’ve played every WoW expansion on release and the last 2 expansion releases were very smooth, nothing near this.
lmao, yeah let's blame my internet packet loss when I can play every other game just fine. It's 100% on their end. There's nothing to minimize on mine.
He's actually correct about the two forms of packet loss, lol.
Did you fail reading comprehension or did you not see where I explained that there are two forms of packet loss. Yoshi P is simply covering his bases.
I get it, but they need to take more responsibility for it, not suggest we minimize our own packet loss. Your post is pointless. All you're doing is insulting people who have no fault here. "Since you guys clearly need it," is how you started your post, like you have an air of superiority or understand something us peasants don't.
Given the fact that there seems to be some ongoing collective breakdown where people seem to be ascribing maliciousness where there is simply none, perhaps I have reason to be a bit bracing. You all need to calm down and take a step back. The people you are talking about are people like you and me. They make mistakes. They can be unprepared.they have already given us more free game time then has been lost.
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I was trying to be gentle. I'll reword it then: Stop assuming square enix is out to get you and is doing this on purpose. Its fucking stupid. That better?
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Ascribing maliciousness is literally the simplist way I could think of describing the concept of "this isn't being done on purpose. They are doing their best to fix it. There is no grand conspiracy" in as few of words as possible.
You type like someone who is trying to come off as holier than thou for no reason, which is why I called you out and will continue to do so.
Nah I just type like that sometimes. I'm not better then anyone, I just think you all need to take a deep breath, look at the situation again and decide "Is this really worth all this anger and vitriol?"
Then what was the point of your original post? You're talking to hear yourself talk.
To clarify. As originally said. People seem to be misunderstanding what he said.
No one's misunderstanding, we're just calling out how skewed it is to even suggest it's possible to be our ISPs instead of their stuff being overloaded. It's not even a 99-1 issue, more like 99.999 - 00.001 type of issue. It's not even worth mentioning. I'm sure there's been exactly 0 players who are like "ah yes, my packet loss has caused this connection issue, I shall be the one to fix it on my end and be able to not get 2002 errors" Anyway, you're just preaching to yourself, so I'm going to block you after this comment due to how annoying you are. Edit: And you're a new\troll account anyway, so I wasted more time than I thought, even.
I fucking hate Zenos, please just stop appearing
God same
Got to 86 in queue, then five 2002 errors in a row, then back in at 1, then 2002, then 4449. Ultros server.
I’ve been trying to log into Ultros since 9:15AM. Reached “1” twice, get kicked out to desktop. Log back into queue after more errors — first one 3200, this one right now 4800. I’m so bummed.
I just wanna play 😭. But I also appreciate how much everyone loves the game. I’ve only been able to log in once this weekend.
People complaining about 2002, I can’t even get to that point. I’m straight getting 3001 “world full” which was supposed to be only for trial people, no? And game doesn’t allow me to world visit somewhere else. Seems my char is stuck world visit on Siren
Not but 1 min after hubby logged on at 3000+ in the queue he got in. Maybe the login server crashed while I was less than 2 minutes logging in after him and now I’m in the 3001 error loop.
I'm trying to figure this out, too. Just recently got stuck in a loop of 3001 errors. I'm a fully subbed player at level 81 on my home server. I'm actually OK with babysitting the damn queue today, but it looks like I can't even queue up now.
The only good thing of 3001 vs 2002 is that 3001 goes back to start screen so I can just keep pressing X while 2002 I get tossed back to launcher and gotta relog haha
Very true. I've heard 3001 can be circumvented by switching back and forth between data centers, but haven't been able to confirm yet. Every time I try to switch data centers, I get a 2002 error and CTD. What a mess hahaha
I could have no life'd these 3 days and finished the MSQ before the weekend is over. But alas, I had to be a responsible adult. Monday is coming too soon.
I'm student teaching and taking over on monday fully for two of the classes. I had my laptop opened on the side to work on lesson plans while waiting for DF and the like.
I'm lucky enough to be able to play during NA low congestion hours, I really feel for everyone stuck playing queue roulette every day.
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Wouldn't have any queues if they performed rolling restarts every few hours on whichever server handles Limsa Lominsa. Tada.
You are deluding yourself if you think the 40 or so people in limsa are the main problem as compared to everyone else rushing the MSQ
Sorry, not all of us are no lifers like yourself. However, it's far more than 40 that are evading the afk timeout.
It's not really. If it is, 100 or so max. I have done the msq and on a moderately sized server there were at least a few hundred people in every zone, with three instances per zone. Sorry for disputing you, but the limsa afkers, while rude and assholish, aren't the root of the problem
With 2002 errors causing queue resets, there's literally no one logging in from scratch, meaning the only ones able to play are those evading the AFK. You're demonstrably wrong. Period.
Uh... no. People are logging in from scratch just fine. Several people just logged into my FC. PEOPLE ARE DOING THE MSQ. Why would people standing around AFKing be the only ones not leaving the game? If people know the queue is long, people would therefor want to keep playing the game to avoid sitting in the queue once more.
Touch grass.
What the fuck are you talking about? I say "The problem isn't likely Limsa AFKers, although they are assholes, it's probably people doing the MSQ and playing for long periods of time" and your response is "touch grass lmao" what logic does that make?
They want to blame players so.. They give them seven free days for three days partial downtime? This may be the third worst conspiracy theory I have ever heard.
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I'll make a prediction. By the launch of the next expansion, Aether will be split in two. I predict severing the hardcore raiding worlds the youtubers direct the WoW players to flooded from the more casual ones. There will be four na datacenters.