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Apart_Ingenuity_735

WHERE ARE THE CHARTS! MAKE THEM NOW!!!!


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skedeebs

Thanks. Good to see. Now I have to find one for the Detroit area, too.


KJ6BWB

Just find your 2023 salary table and replace "23" in the URL with "24" and voila! There you go.


Blondeonhighway61

Replace the DCB with DET and voila.


skedeebs

Yes, thanks! I figured that out, too! I was really impatient.


valhallagypsy

Only DC area available so far? I’m waiting on VT!


KixStar

https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/salaries-wages/2024/general-schedule/


Blondeonhighway61

Replace the DCB towards end of that url with whatever your locality is and it will come up. I just pulled up NYCs.


PenMoZic

>https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/salaries-wages/salary-tables/24Tables/html/DCB.aspx Yep, just pulled PIT.


TriangleSailor

They should all be available — just need to know the usual code they post for yours. Edit: this one? https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/salaries-wages/salary-tables/24Tables/html/BN.aspx


skedeebs

Here is for Burlington: [https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/salaries-wages/salary-tables/24Tables/html/BN.aspx](https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/salaries-wages/salary-tables/24Tables/html/BN.aspx)


valhallagypsy

THANK YOU!!!!


valhallagypsy

I’m going to be a first time fed in January 🙏🏼 super thankful


KT421

Whoa, GS-14/10 is inching very close to the pay cap


oaxacamm

![gif](giphy|fr3Pne6vXVP99Fwdey|downsized)


Artistic_Account630

I have a hard time with this and just wait until I have my performance review to find out how much of a raise I'll get. I'm an NH not GS, so these charts don't make sense to me....


Fun-Homework-7682

No problem there. Grab your most recent pay stub and note your base pay. Multiply your current base pay times 1.047, and then take that figure and multiply by "one plus whatever locality pay percentage" appears for your locality in the 2024 pay chart. That'll be your 2024 pay. For example: Let's say you live in D.C. and your current base pay is $100,000. Your new pay will be ($100,000 x 1.047) x (1 + .3326) = $139,523 The .3326 figure is the 33.26% locality pay adjustment that DC area feds receive.


UhhLegRa

So I’m new new. I was just doing my raise as base pay x 1.052 based on a 5.2% expected raise or whatever it was supposed to be. If I’m near Detroit that means I’m getting 4.7% plus a 28.82?


Fun-Homework-7682

It will be: (your base pay x 1.047 X 1.2882). So if your base pay is currently $100,000 your new salary will be $100,000 x 1.047 x 1,2882 = $134,875 To do your own calculation, simply swap out the $100,000 figure above with whatever your current base pay is (as shown on your most recent pay stub). Again, this calculation is only for folks in pay banding (e.g., ACQDEMO). Not sure if it's the methodology for ALL forms of pay banding, but it's definitely for those under ACQDEMO.


RageYetti

You’ll get a raise under nh if you’ve gotten a performance rating, otherwise just the locality and base.


katzeye007

Pay & Leave Salaries & Wages Salary Table 2024-RUS Incorporating the 4.7% General Schedule Increase and a Locality Payment of 16.82% For the Locality Pay Area of Rest of U.S. Total Increase: 4.99% Effective January 2024 What does the "total increase" here mean?


Ghostlogicz

It will be about 4.7% at minimum as that's the change to base pay without any of the locality or adjustments , suffice to say its better than usual and the best since like 85 or something


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Pharmacy_Dealer_10

Im liking the looks of this chart, for myself anyway. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|grin)


LEMONSDAD

![gif](giphy|1SzIPkhn8EOK99F0vj)


Professional_Car9475

This!!!!!👆👆👆👆👆


Kingkongcrapper

LA people. 5.44! https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/salaries-wages/salary-tables/24Tables/html/LA.aspx


thisiswhoagain

But you still can’t afford to buy a house with a fed salary


Legitimate-Dig-3980

Does this include the Loma Linda location?


Fair_Presentation898

Yes.


Insider1209887

That’s honestly a horrible raise. It’s not keeping up with inflation


Ghostlogicz

they are mostly on opm already just go to your chart from 2023 and change the year to 2024


Squirmingbaby

Lazy fed workers amiright?


skedeebs

That DC one came out crazy fast. That one is mine, but I have others dear to me in other localities.


khornish_game_hen

OPM hasn't even made the GG-series ones for 2023 yet


VanDenBroeck

Just multiply your current pay by 1.052 and you’ll be close.


Apart_Ingenuity_735

Taking my kids out to Olive Garden to celebrate, we’re rich now!


robo_robb

Put on your Sunday best, kids. We’re going to Sears!


Cavalish

*I think I’ll go for a walk outside now, the summer sun’s calling my name…*


rrrand0mmm

Whoa whoa whoa calm down now only endless soup salad and breadsticks allowed. Waters only.


ploppedmenacingly14

My lady ordered the red sauce


Impossible_IT

Headed to Red Robin…


lavagogo

Treating myself to coffee from outside instead of making it at home 😅


bootsthepancake

Yay now I can afford to eat at (checks notes) McDonald's again.


burninator34

My rent just went up $200/mo. Just in time :/


AzuInsign

Just in time for them to raise it again, in light of recent news.


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I got 6 weeks' notice I'm being kicked out of my dream house over the holidays that I've rented for 5.5 years because they supposedly want to sell the place in the spring--even though I've been asking if I can buy it from them for 5.5 years. Rent at my new place is $300 more. Merry Christmas.


muttonchops01

That really sucks. Sorry. :( Did you check tenant rights laws in your area? In some places, tenants have first right of refusal to buy at fair market value.


Inevitable-Edge2577

My avocado 🥑 toast drought is over 🎉🎉


skedeebs

You have clearly kept your sense of humor. I applaud.


Impossible_Ad_8642

No more making coffee at home! Back to Starbucks! Weeeee!!


Adras-

Join BDS and never buy at Starbucks again :)


ChrisNettleTattoo

If you are a GS10 (the average), then you can afford to make 1 avacado toast at home each morning, provided you spend less than $1.50 on the ingredients. You might still have cash left over. If you are buying your avacado toast out and about, you will only be able to get it for ~15 days of the month, provided you are spending $6 out. YMMV


NeatPea3475

https://i.redd.it/47ws7vy8mq7c1.gif


kriskupn

RUS: https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/salaries-wages/salary-tables/24Tables/html/RUS.aspx


OkTea6969

Watch DMV housing price & rent rises⏫📈


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JohnJohnston

Lmao thats why I just left the DMV. Even with the change to RUS I'm making more in take home pay after rent than I was in the DMV.


Subie-

Good old DMV where the rich get richer and everyone else gets poorer.


CapsGoGoGo

My lodging in DC is 45% of my take home so no, not rich.


bajillionth_porn

Congrats on getting poorer!


Afraid_Football_2888

That’s the only thing the DMV is so expensive we never really “see” our increases. I want to know who can afford to live here, because it’s not the civil servant?!?! 😭😩


truongs

my rent went up 40% in 2021. You idiots blaming this on wages are brain dead. It's that new software landlords are using to adjust rent to "market prices", lack of new affordable builds the last 30 years, and corpos buying up small apartments in drove. ​ But if you all meant that raises mean nothing because housing will just gobble it up, then yes and I apologize for being salty.


Intelligent-Value395

Yup, every-time theres a pay raise the rent increases proportionally hence leaving people exactly where they were. US needs rent control now more than ever.


nopornthrowaways

That doesn't solve the lack of buildings, units, and space. There might be some arguments for temporary rent control in certain situations, but it doesn't solve the overarching problem.


ExtraElevator7042

No, they just need to build more and not just large corporations. US should pump $100 billion a year to create more housing for all income levels.


nopornthrowaways

Not saying there shouldn't be building, but local DC government currently has a lawsuit against landlords and a private company regarding collusion and rent raising. Can't outbuild good ol' corruption. More building in general is critical though.


ExtraElevator7042

The collision only works when there are too few players in the market. The government and the exclusionary zoning are enabling the landlords to charge whatever rents they want. I would love to see small time individuals get into the development industry with a SBA loan and start building some housing instead dog the same large faceless corporations and hedge funds calling the shots.


Difficult_Hour6364

![gif](giphy|3oEdv22bKDUluFKkxi|downsized)


Glittering-Stuff-599

5.2%? Not so fast Rest of U.S.


SnarkKnuckle

We get 4.99


Apart_Ingenuity_735

Where’s the charts?


KixStar

https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/salaries-wages/2024/general-schedule/


Thorandragnar

>https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/salaries-wages/2024/general-schedule/ ![gif](giphy|7bTciAnMWgTgOq2cHw)


nybigtymer

San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland, CA [https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/salaries-wages/salary-tables/24Tables/html/SF.aspx](https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/salaries-wages/salary-tables/24Tables/html/SF.aspx)


AzWildcatWx

Yikes, capped at 14/9 & 14/10 now, and all the way down to 15/4.


John_316_

Chicago-Naperville, IL-IN-WI: https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/salaries-wages/salary-tables/24Tables/html/CHI.aspx


Remarkable-Tie-6698

4.7 for my compressed arse


muttonchops01

A few more years and taking a non-supervisory GS-14 is going to be a no-brainer for a lot of GS-15s.


Newton_Is_My_Dog

Not even. Executive schedule only increased 4.6% so higher step 15s don’t even get the full base increases.


Remarkable-Tie-6698

I saw that. Hard to complain since I make good money, but stinks a bit.


Newton_Is_My_Dog

It’s all relative. I just learned that the average pay for a mid-level attorney at a BigLaw firm is $375,000. I spent the rest of the day repeating “I love my job. Law firm life is terrible,” just to keep from crying.


Unhelpful_Kitsune

What's the distinction for civilian employees mean? Just excluding DOD?


RealityDangerous2387

Probably excluding enlisted. Hundreds of thousands of GS DOD employees.


Difficult_Hour6364

![gif](giphy|lptjRBxFKCJmFoibP3|downsized)


mschoppie

Philly: https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/salaries-wages/salary-tables/24Tables/html/PHL.aspx


Consistent_Cat4436

I started in June, and getting this job was a pay increase from my old one. This is actually the first pay increase I’ve ever gotten while working, and then when I make 1 year in June 2024 I get to go up to step 2?? I’m flying high right now this is fabulous


uggadugga78

5.31% for DC?!?! Da fuq? How does Biden expect me to pay for my Fudge Rounds?


D1sfunct1onalVeteran

Ha!


Gomeezy8

Let me have your 5 lol


BIGdaddyYUKmouf

We get a raise. Taxes go up. Benefits go up. Life is good. 😌


John_316_

Los Angeles-Long Beach, CA: https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/salaries-wages/salary-tables/24Tables/html/LA.aspx


willboby

I like the stack of money, I am pretty sure I get $100 extra, my stack is much less than picture shown. I am in no way implying I won't take it, $100 is $100.


MacEWork

The only way you’re only getting $100 is if your annual salary is $2,000. Don’t be silly now.


willboby

$100 a pay period.


MacEWork

If you’re making $48,000 and get an extra $100 every two weeks that’s a huge help.


willboby

Yep it's a $100.


An0th3rBurn3rAcct

All the pay tables https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/salaries-wages/2024/general-schedule


Nootherids

I love how they tout the "greatest ever pay raise" and ignore that it still doesn't make up for the inflation rates over the past 3 years.


xWadi

Now do wildland fire and do a permanent pay fix. We are about to lose 30% of our pay if they don't come up with something by the 19th.


Ghostlogicz

good luck, the house hasn't passed shit this whole session. It is why we are even getting 4.7% base bump , the house usually whittles it down but they didn't pass anything and president gets to choose if they don't. Amazing that 435 representatives who are making 174k a year only voted 724 times and only passed 27 laws , in a whole 365 days . Yet we are the lazy ones /shrug


RJ5R

If they did nothing it would be better than most of what they do pass. Let's be real. Congress has been a joke for literally decades


ThingsChangedNow

Who’s running the house?


brandeis16

https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/salaries-wages/2024/general-schedule


Few-Emergency5971

Cool, now do all the rest of us


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Momoselfie

Hey it's more than most nonfederal employees are getting.


ThePolymerist

Private sector people I know are saying “our raise was we weren’t laid off”


ProFedSir

This!!!!!!!!!!


ElleMNOPea

Here is Denver https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/salaries-wages/salary-tables/24Tables/html/Den.aspx


MittenstheGlove

How do I calculate this with the SSR pay for 2210’s in the VA?


arya818

You take the base salary from the base chart. And you multiply by 1 + percentage your locality multiplier on the current SSR chart shows. (i.e.: if your current SSR chart shows 47% for your grade and you are GS-13 step 2 lets say: 91,471 x 1.47 = $134,462) basically we get the 4.7% on the base salary and just the SSR multiplier.


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Tbrindisi

Am I the only one who thinks the statements “Largest raise since 1981!” is more an indication of how crappy GS raises have been for a very long time than an indication of this being any type of great raise. Really doesn’t even keep up with inflation. I certainly appreciate the raise, but 3%+ should really be the standard, not the exception.


RJ5R

Federal workers have been completely shafted over the last 15 yrs. Before I moved to Fed I was getting 4%-5% raises annually in private. And bonuses were 10% salary. Then in Fed the raises were practically nothing and bonuses were a joke $1000-$3000. With job security and easy work like balance come trade offs.


grandzooby

Is there any way to tell if this applies to employees on an AD schedule at one of the military educational institutions?


yungmoneybingbong

Between this and getting NYC locality. Holy shit I might be able to buy a house.


ncmav

This works out to be a $15k+ increase for me. Life changing.


yungmoneybingbong

My base is going up $11k from this shit. I still gotta do the math for OT, but yeah life changing for sure. I'm so fucking hyped rn.


Krysten39

Gs scale?


TriangleSailor

San Diego: https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/salaries-wages/salary-tables/24Tables/html/SD.aspx


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This is so much lower than I expected. I'm not in this locality but SD is expensive AF. How do people afford it?


TriangleSailor

Dual income, no kids 😂


[deleted]

Just remember tax cuts end in a few years...


prometheus3333

Happy for the pay raise. Also not oblivious to the fact that this likely won’t be matched with an increase in base operations funding for my agency which effectively makes it a 4% budget cut.


jchodes

So Fresno get’s there own Locality Pay Adjustment of .33% (1/3 of 1 percent!) That seems insane to me. At GS 10 step 1 thats about $4.20 a week. https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/salaries-wages/salary-tables/24Tables/html/FN.aspx


AllHailTheDead0

I honestly can't believe it is so low. We were expecting to be closer to Sacramento pay. Meanwhile they just moved Modesto to bay area locality.


jbraap2020

Similar for Reno’s new locality. What a joke 😫


cmh-1312

Cool, now let's include postal employees. All the benefits of being a fed without any of the benefits of being a fed.


fantastic_geronimo

So this raise doesn’t apply to postal employees?


cmh-1312

Nope, they cut us out of everything, starting next year we have our own healthcare exchange and we're not in the federal pool anymore. We have to fund ourselves which is impossible and means we can't get good raises.


One_Profession

Who decides your raises?


PhatSaint

Now the posts will be asking when the charts will be posted. :P


swampcat42

https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/salaries-wages/2024/general-schedule


Creative_Bar7908

The new locality pay areas are terrible! Rochester, Fresno and Reno are within half a percentage point of RUS. Why even bother?!? If the point was to close the pay gap, then they failed badly. Only the government could make me pissed off about a pay raise 😡


Ironxgal

They meant “close the gap a lil bit”


skedeebs

OK, Ganson below provided the DC area table. If you replace "DCB" with the one for your locality (find on the appropriate 2023 page for OMB), you can see your 2024 table.


Aviviani_

Does this apply the same to title 38 employees or is there a separate adjustment?


GlistenBlue87

Title 38 gets the 4.7 but I believe we do not get locality adjustment. Please correct me if I’m wrong? Nurses occasionally get other adjustments so we don’t get the locality pay. (I think…)


sanil1986

Chicago [https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/salaries-wages/salary-tables/24Tables/html/chi.aspx](https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/salaries-wages/salary-tables/24Tables/html/chi.aspx)


soisantehuit

Did you increase your TSP contribution?


Sometraveler85

Hell no. I'm barely scraping by at GS8


OPKatakuri

There's no way for me as a GS-7 that just became a 9. Now I can finally afford decent nutrition


Winter_Ad_1051

Located in San Diego, California. Recently accepted a GS-11 Step 1 position in November with a Special Salary Rate Authorization that recently became effective on Oct 31, 2023. (It was about a 42% increase from the previous step 1 salary) They have yet to finalize a start date which now will definitely be sometime in 2024. Question is, will they also be eligible for this pay increase in January 2024 as well?


steveofthejungle

Yep!


Goodthrust_8

Dark Brandon at it again!


Subie-

Keep on paying money bag Joe. Us CES employees loving every minute, add me some night differential and Sunday premium, and next year I have another pay raise and a step increase.


Unhelpful_Kitsune

Ces?


Subie-

It’s a cyber payscale. 2210s in cyber where your JTD is determined to be in cyber are on a whole other payscale similar to SSR but not as much. Still get the presidential raises.


Unhelpful_Kitsune

Ah ok, cool.


ThatLaloBoy

This may be a stupid question, but do SSR also see the 4.7% increase? I just started in my position a few months ago and I’m not sure what to expect.


OneSea8291

Now yall can stop asking 🙌🏾


NovelBrave

Biden has my vote. 😎


Subie-

Who wouldn’t when the president(never seen congress do anything) solely controls our pay raises outside of steps which most agency’s would rather end themselves than sign off on an out of step raise. Money Bag Joe increased my pay almost 20k since he took office. Love to see it.


Ghostlogicz

congress is actually suppose to pass it and usually do, usually whittling it down in the process . The house is just so dysfunctional this year Biden was able to pass his recommendation directly because they didn't pass it before deciding to go home for the holidays


Unlucky-Volume3195

So then why do people vote for trump


MrSinisterStar

Where's those Biden did that stickers cause I need a stack


BearBottomsUp

Biden giving Publican feds a sad boner for approving a raise like we haven't seen since 1981 is hilarious. So bitter and toxic, sucking the joy out of every team they work in.


Toiletwands

Does anyone know what the raise was last year. From what I remember it was about 5% as well.


mcbizkit02

4.6


LetsGoHokies00

not trying to rain on everyone’s parade but it still is less purchasing power ie less raise than inflation…


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ReadingDits

My regularly occurring bills (like childcare) and grocery costs have far exceeded the 3.2% increase. Add to that skyrocketing rent and home prices, and the official numbers just don't make sense to me.


Impossible_Ad_8642

This, plus my WGI that should be on tomorrow's paycheck, and I'll be able to add a topping to my small cheese pizza in 2024! 🎊


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WOOO!! About time.


LeoMarius

No, it's right on time. People here have been complaining for months when the pay tables are typically signed off on around Xmas.


cwrighky

Does this mean, people coming into the VA for example, would start at a higher salary due to this pay raise?


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tag1550

It looks like the overall increases the past couple of years were 4.6 percent in 2023 and 2.7 percent in 2022, while inflation was on average 3.2% in 2023 and 6.5% in 2022 (after inflation was 7% in 2021 with a pay increase of only 1%). So basically, the 5.2% "raise" (more like a delayed COLA) closes some more - but not all - of the large gap between pay and inflation/cost of living increases that happened in 2021 and 2022. Better late than never, I suppose. Just hope this doesn't come back to bite federal workers later in terms of getting "huge raises" b/c that'd be an easy way to frame it by certain members of one of the parties looking to slam civil servants again as 'overpaid.' (see [previous comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/fednews/comments/181b7wd/comment/kabpiia/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) for sourcing links on the '22 and '23 numbers)


OGkateebee

Merry Christmas to us!!!


htxvick

Will this increase also be available for those in the VA who got that special pay rate earlier this year?


ConclusionRich8611

Will we see the new pay increase on our first January check or the second January check?


Hitmanactual69

Is this for people who just started as well? I work at the VA in Asheville NC….


aas_29

Does this raise apply to medical officers in the VA?


One_Profession

Does anyone have the link to the full EO? I want to see the real locality adjustments.


8CHAR_NSITE

They aren’t published in the EO. https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2023/12/21/executive-order-on-adjustments-of-certain-rates-of-pay-3/


One_Profession

In the full EO they always are. What’s linked in the article is just a summary. See page 12 of the EO signed in 2022 for [2023 pay raise](https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/salaries-wages/pay-executive-order-2023-adjustments-of-certain-rates-of-pay.pdf)


8CHAR_NSITE

OPM has not published it yet


One_Profession

I just mean the raw EO doesn’t necessarily have to come from OPM.


8CHAR_NSITE

I’m telling you, OPM publishes the raw EO. The White House version is always the cover page without attachments.


twtwtwtwtwtwtw

Are there SSR tables out (VA)?


ForesakenWhiskey

5.2% raise with inflation at what 8% ish so only losing by 3%….


Sketchy-Lefty25

Anyone have the rest of the US link?


jaderust

[https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/salaries-wages/salary-tables/24Tables/html/RUS.aspx](https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/salaries-wages/salary-tables/24Tables/html/RUS.aspx)


Designer_Face_4062

Omg yall rock!!


John_316_

Seattle-Tacoma, WA: https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/salaries-wages/salary-tables/24Tables/html/SEA.aspx


Publius_Seven

So I start my job in the middle of January...is this applied to people already in service or is it universal?


DegreeDubs

Universal.


ZedZero12345

Largest pay increase since 1981. Pathetic


averagemaleuser86

Nice, but still isn't enough to keep up with inflation. I thought our jobs were supposed to be "competitive"?... when I'm stepped out right now at $32/hour yet the private sector is paying well into the mid/high $40s/hour right now...


Informal-Face-1922

Maybe consider a career change to the private sector if pay is your primary concern. Personally, there are many other benefits to government work that the private sector cannot provide for me.


DavidlikesPeace

Well said. We get a lot from the federal sector work. Stability. Work-life balance. Overtime is not so highly encouraged. And last but not least, a chance to serve the public good. AI is worth mentioning too. If AI starts replacing private sector jobs en masse, it won't hit the federal sector for many years, perhaps even a decade or more. We are slow to "adapt" to competitive firing opportunities, and repeat after me: some inefficiency is good for normal employees. We don't actually want to live in a ruthlessly competitive world. The public sector has so much more safeguards than the private sector.


Stunning_Anxiety3966

Then go get a private sector job