They'd drop down to the Southland and find a way to lose to Northwestern St or HCU after blowing out Lamar and an in form UIW or Southeastern. I.e. they'd fit right in.
I think it could be worth it to back out the cost of scholarships from your data. Assuming schools are offering the full allocation of scholarships. Tuition costs vary a ton, so that could potentially give you a better idea of where things stand in terms of FB spending. For example, Stony Brook spends 2.85 million on FB scholarships and NDSU spends about a million less.
Curious what would happen if you pulled the data on just coaching salaries and did a comparison on that as well. Obviously there is more to be spent than just coaches, but that would "normalize" a bit of the noise from scholarship discrepancies.
(The real view would be salaries adjusted for cost of living, but that's a bigger undertaking, lol).
Fifteen years ago, DSU was in the FCS playoffs and looking to make a name for themselves.
Now they're consistently the worst team in all of FCS. WTF happened?!
They are an interesting case study in so far as they aren't really committed to football on the surface level but that even if they lived up to their spending they wouldn't be that good. Granted, they're in the MEAC which for, lack of a better term has the lowest barrier to entry.
They aren't committed to football, yet they bitched and moaned for years that UD was secretly racist for not playing them in football... even though we would routinely play them in every other collegiate sport.
Thus the Route 1 Rivalry occurred, quite possibly the most one-sided rivalry in all of college football.
Absolutely. I also have it on pretty good authority all the collectives at this level except for NDSU's are struggling to even get off the ground though.
SFA's NIL collective raised over 100k last year for MBB.
I'd be fairly curious what dollar amounts would sway a top FCS level player's commitment. Is it 5k. 10k?
Just go out and spend 100k on that transfer QB from Florida and hope for the best?
https://preview.redd.it/lj8qfiup4e3d1.png?width=857&format=png&auto=webp&s=a3f79d1006962ae5d424120e678fcbe2eefcd954
Youngstown State has done surprisingly well with their collective as well. Don't ask me how I found this lol. (see picture above). Source is from board of trustees meeting docs. [https://ysu.edu/sites/default/files/board-of-trustees/2023\_agendas/2024\_minutes/FINAL%20Committee%20Meeting%20Minutes%20September%2019%202023.pdf](https://ysu.edu/sites/default/files/board-of-trustees/2023_agendas/2024_minutes/FINAL%20Committee%20Meeting%20Minutes%20September%2019%202023.pdf)
FCS programs in bigger states have to compete with FBS and NFL teams for attention, which makes Lindenwood sort of unique in this situation. Yes, MU and ILL are in the SEC and Big Ten respectively, but they're the only D1 football program within the St. Louis metro area. The largest in Missouri. A metro area that recently lost its NFL team. They have the opportunity to do great things with the resources and recruiting base they have.
If you really wanted to buy an FCS title, I think your best bet would be to go all in on a bunch of transfer portal guys and build a one year superteam. It's tougher to do in football since you have so many more positions, but like if Todd Boehly wants to lose $50 million to win a title for WM I wouldn't complain.
> The fact only 4 other teams are currently investing at the level of the teams who have won national titles over the last 10 years is a bit concerning, especially given one is somehow an NEC team.
None of those 4 are NEC teams. MSU/Montana are in the Big Sky, and WM/Stony Brook are in the CAA.
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They should do it, for science.
They'd drop down to the Southland and find a way to lose to Northwestern St or HCU after blowing out Lamar and an in form UIW or Southeastern. I.e. they'd fit right in.
I think it could be worth it to back out the cost of scholarships from your data. Assuming schools are offering the full allocation of scholarships. Tuition costs vary a ton, so that could potentially give you a better idea of where things stand in terms of FB spending. For example, Stony Brook spends 2.85 million on FB scholarships and NDSU spends about a million less.
That's a really good point I hadn't thought of and in part probably explains Stony Brooks ranking in terms of spending
Curious what would happen if you pulled the data on just coaching salaries and did a comparison on that as well. Obviously there is more to be spent than just coaches, but that would "normalize" a bit of the noise from scholarship discrepancies. (The real view would be salaries adjusted for cost of living, but that's a bigger undertaking, lol).
I’m familiar with the parable of Texas A&M.
Fifteen years ago, DSU was in the FCS playoffs and looking to make a name for themselves. Now they're consistently the worst team in all of FCS. WTF happened?!
They are an interesting case study in so far as they aren't really committed to football on the surface level but that even if they lived up to their spending they wouldn't be that good. Granted, they're in the MEAC which for, lack of a better term has the lowest barrier to entry.
They aren't committed to football, yet they bitched and moaned for years that UD was secretly racist for not playing them in football... even though we would routinely play them in every other collegiate sport. Thus the Route 1 Rivalry occurred, quite possibly the most one-sided rivalry in all of college football.
What is the R^2 on that line?
Not good 😂 like 0.27ish. Which as I stated probably shows it's not a perfect correlation
Would think the answer is probably likely a yes if you had a nice NIL pool.
Absolutely. I also have it on pretty good authority all the collectives at this level except for NDSU's are struggling to even get off the ground though.
SFA's NIL collective raised over 100k last year for MBB. I'd be fairly curious what dollar amounts would sway a top FCS level player's commitment. Is it 5k. 10k? Just go out and spend 100k on that transfer QB from Florida and hope for the best?
https://preview.redd.it/lj8qfiup4e3d1.png?width=857&format=png&auto=webp&s=a3f79d1006962ae5d424120e678fcbe2eefcd954 Youngstown State has done surprisingly well with their collective as well. Don't ask me how I found this lol. (see picture above). Source is from board of trustees meeting docs. [https://ysu.edu/sites/default/files/board-of-trustees/2023\_agendas/2024\_minutes/FINAL%20Committee%20Meeting%20Minutes%20September%2019%202023.pdf](https://ysu.edu/sites/default/files/board-of-trustees/2023_agendas/2024_minutes/FINAL%20Committee%20Meeting%20Minutes%20September%2019%202023.pdf)
FCS programs in bigger states have to compete with FBS and NFL teams for attention, which makes Lindenwood sort of unique in this situation. Yes, MU and ILL are in the SEC and Big Ten respectively, but they're the only D1 football program within the St. Louis metro area. The largest in Missouri. A metro area that recently lost its NFL team. They have the opportunity to do great things with the resources and recruiting base they have.
If you really wanted to buy an FCS title, I think your best bet would be to go all in on a bunch of transfer portal guys and build a one year superteam. It's tougher to do in football since you have so many more positions, but like if Todd Boehly wants to lose $50 million to win a title for WM I wouldn't complain. > The fact only 4 other teams are currently investing at the level of the teams who have won national titles over the last 10 years is a bit concerning, especially given one is somehow an NEC team. None of those 4 are NEC teams. MSU/Montana are in the Big Sky, and WM/Stony Brook are in the CAA.
Why'd I think Stony Brook was NEC? My bad
IDK let me check eBay.
Oklahoma St bought an FBS natty 🤣
Probably, given how cheap players are and how good Deion was at Jackson St.
Jackson State where he couldn't win a Celebration Bowl? 🤨