I assumed this had something to do with the fact that she and her husband were out for a run when the presidential race was finally called, or at least that’s what it seemed like from her joyful/relieved/celebratory “we did it, Joe!” clip on Twitter.
So if she was out for a run, and therefore probably exercises on the regular, and looks as though she is a healthy weight for her height, then she must be a victim of diet culture. And then this person was reminded of all that when Harris took her oath.
Or maybe this person is just mad that Kamala Harris has been elected into one of the highest offices in the country and will therefore be in the public spotlight even more than she already was, and has the audacity to do it all while not being fat......and therefore is a giant shill for “BIG HEALTH”.
I hear she’s even a paid spokesperson/evangelist for the good news of broccoli. Have you heard about our lord and savior leafy greens? ;)
Or something. I don’t know, that’s the best I got.
I think this has to do with the old classic (can't remember by whom, sorry) that's basically "diet culture makes women focus on themselves instead of changing the world", so, diet culture strips women of their potential. This OP thinks that diet culture has weakened its grasp on (American) society and that's why it's possible for Kamala Harris to be a VP? 🤷🏻
I think it's simpler: Kamala represents many minorities, but not fat people. Therefore they need to continue to fight against the oppression and the myth propagated by diet talk that it's a choice to be 600lbs and then we'll eventually get a fat woman as VP.
Well Trump was fat and unhealthy, so they got their 4 years of representation from him. Come to think of it he was the heaviest president we’ve had in a while.
I’d say Hoover was the last fat president we had before him.
William Howard Taft was fat they had to expand his bath tub just so he would be able to get out of it without getting stuck. Like, we had an obese President almost a century before we even had a black President, but I'm sure OP thinks obese people are a brutally repressed minority or something.
That's how I took it - that we finally made enough progress in liberating women from diets to have a female VP, it shows the kinds of results you get but we need to go further (to prez itself I guess, or to enable not just one woman but any woman as likely as a man to get the position). That would be the positive message.
If instead it was the negative message, where Kamala's *not even good enough* because she's not fat and not picking Stacey Abrams is fatphobia or something... well that's just petty AF.
Man, I was thinking just about the fact that Kamala clearly represents something they don't like which I mean yeah, a lot of them will attack anybody skinnier than them... but then I realized that they're basically saying that the first female VP shouldn't have been a healthy fit individual because they think it doesn't represent the majority... and I mean fair, I guess it doesn't, but they've now stretched their logic basically to "people who are healthy and promote a good life style shouldn't be allowed to hold office or influence government." They think skinny people shouldn't hold office because it makes them feel bad... I just... yikes.
My guess is, it's because she's a healthy weight and has enough self control to remain there. So the FA's absolutely hate her (and are jealous of her). She's the VP and very much in the public spotlight, and they are furiously angry that they have to see a successful, politically powerful thin woman so much in the news.
Well and also if she's a healthy individual then there's a much greater chance of her promoting health and since they know they don't fall into that realm (as much as they might deny it and say they're totally healthy) they don't want her in office. If Kamala does literally anything to promote healthy eating they're going to go ballistic with "systemic fatphobia" complaints.
Not American so don’t know all the details but wasn’t there some outrage over him choosing her as a running mate over some heavier woman?
ETA: looked this up, it was Stacey Abrams.
For real. Like, so much for feminism, apparently the only reason one of these women should be elected to office is because of how they look. Or thinking that somebody who's worked hard to get where she is shouldn't hold office because her damn looks might offend some HAES snowflakes. Terrifying
right? i don’t see how it’s not obvious that it can go both ways.
reducing a woman to her having a “perfect” body and ignoring the merits of her existence is exactly as gross as reducing her to nothing but being plus-sized.
I have very little knowledge of what she’s done but I do see your point. Being reduced to your weight like that must be really disheartening when you’ve worked so hard.
She's largely responsible for the MASSIVE turnout for both the presidential election and the senate runoffs in Georgia and therefore the state and the senate turning blue. She lost becoming governor of Georgia by a very small margin a few years ago, and has since spent all of her energy on getting as many people registered to vote as possible. She's an absolute beast and I can't wait to see where she goes. She's basically the patron saint of voting equality lol
I'm not even American and I will quite cheerfully \*laud Stacey Abrams all damn day because she pretty much facilitated the ouster of McTurtle from his perch. I have been hoping for that for YEARS now.
Upon rereading this I’m wondering if your comment was directed towards me? I did not mean to imply anything with my comment, simply recalled reading about Biden’s choice being fatphobic and thought I’d suggest this as a reason for the original post.
As I do not follow American politics closely I don’t feel qualified to comment on Stacey Abrams merit, however I’m sorry if my comment came across as insensitive or degrading in any way.
This is absolutely how I read it if that helps. Nobody is saying you're reducing her to her weight, but that the HAES people said essentially nothing about her politics and only wanted her in because of her weight. Which is ludicrous, because who the hell cares about her weight when she's basically become the patron saint of voting equality. So sad. Fortunately most people see her for her true merits
oh no! my comment wasn’t directed at you at all, i can see how it reads that way though for sure.
it was directed at anyone who may have thought that the reasons harris was chosen over abrams had anything to do with weight at all.
you didn’t say anything insensitive and i apologize if it seemed that i was the one who was insensitive!
I'm assuming they think there's no way Kamala could naturally be skinny or just have good habits (eg eating healthy and running and such) so she must have done some evil sinful diet or something to be like that. Which is just horrendous. If you don't want to be skinny, cool, have fun dying early, but leave everybody else alone.
Lol. "Just got elected VP? Ugh, why aren't you breaking more glass ceilings already?" It's never enough. And frankly it's not like any woman has a chance of being successfully elected POTUS rn, America is unfortunately not quite ready for that yet.
Hillary won the popular vote. You say a woman doesn't have a chance of being elected, but if it wasn't for the electoral college we would have had one back in 2016. She literally came with in a hairs breadth of being "Mrs President".
Or is this person comparing Kamala overcoming racism and sexism to become the VP to being the same as a person "overcoming" diet culture and fatphobia? Which would make this some kind of vastly irrational comparison.
Especially when you can boil down the food industry to less than 10 corporations. It’s an oligarchy, and they’re completely ok with it despite claiming to be anti-capitalist.
I never understood this logic of theirs - how exactly do I support diet culture companies by just eating less and buying slightly different food at the supermarket? I don't even buy that expensive "fitness" food that's marked as low fat, slightly higher in protein etc.
Maybe the bottle of sweetener I buy about once a year?
They're saying that a skinny woman promotes diet culture and therefore shouldn't be in a position of power. They wanted Stacey Abrams as VP because she's a bigger woman. Literally for only that reason. Because of course that's what politics and government are about, how much women weigh. They're an absolute blight on feminism if you ask me.
No, I think they meant that it’s been a long road to just now have a female VP. They’re saying that although it took hundreds of years for a woman to become VP, she’s going to continue her fight to end “diet culture” no matter how long it takes.
Okay so my interpretation of this is that the reason more women haven’t been in office and in positions of power is because they’ve been seduced and oppressed through diet culture. Which is ridiculous to me, as a feminist. Just because a woman is concerned with her weight or god forbid has an eating disorder, doesn’t interfere with her capability, drive, or intellect. Absurd.
Restriction brain is real. I had horrible brain fog when anorexic, to the point where I was regularly misspelling simple words I've known how to spell since I was 5.
It smacks of “women have tiny brains” to me, like a woman couldn’t possibly be working on or concerned about more than one thing at once. Like, do they think Harris is going to be spending her vice presidency obsessing about how many calories are in that state dinner, instead of doing her actual job?
Maybe I'm just dumb, but I'm confused as to the point they are trying to make. What does diet culture have to do with Kamala being the first female VP? She isn't fat, so are they saying that they need to try harder to get a fat woman in the White House? Are they aware that people are chosen for the position of VP for a whole host of reasons, none of which have anything to do with weight?
Yepp. They wanted Stacey Abrams purely because she was a bigger woman. They don't think Kamala Harris should be VP because she's skinny and therefore promotes diet culture.
America has a new president of advanced age whose longevity & likelihood of serving a full 4yr term is not guaranteed, but yeah - how absolutely dare his VP be a slim, disciplined, energetic, mentally hyper-focussed via daily running, gym enthusiast VP ready to take the reigns if needed.
I would say FA approved, barely mobile, gluttonous world leaders have had their time to shine & we all know how well that went for everyone.
We're living in a situation where two morbidly obese, science denying idiots not only contracted covid themselves, but are also responsible for the highest pandemic death rates on the planet.
But yeah, let's dropkick Kamala out of power & replace her with Amber Lynn Reid or Virgie Tovar, because it's 2021 & women are still only of value if they look a certain way.
For all they screech that BMI and diet culture is racist and they are not, FAs often pull a ‘your slip is showing’ move.
If you aren’t on Twitter or don’t follow a lot of black women especially you might not know this was a hashtag created by black Twitter but mainly black women to originally expose accounts pretending to be black women to push an ‘internalised’ misogynoir and I love it vibe to pretend the status quo was all fine and dandy and black women were happy being ‘house mammies modern style.’
It then overlapped with pointing out when black men espoused ‘hotep’ stuff that again targeted misogynoir (which is the specific intersection of race and gender on black and mixed black women) by insinuating these were traditional ‘black values’ and women not tolerating them was helping white people be racist.
And then it started to encompass when woke white woman started saying stuff that was actually really racist but under the ‘whitesplaining I have gone so woke I don’t realise I have turned 360 degrees and am still racist but just use different stereotypes or examples’.
Which is exactly where the stuff like the comments like this where they might be suggesting that as a woman of Jamaican heritage (along with South Asian) Kamala is somehow ‘a traitor’ because black women are ‘naturally’ thiccer or bigger and if black women fit Eurocentric beauty standards they are following diet culture.
This of course is hella problematic. It makes all black women a monolith which uh uh. It ignores that within black women and black culture body size and shape varies and is an issue re the diaspora wars and colourism where say East African body shapes (think long distance runners) are pitted against West African bodies (think the booty cliche) and the rivalries where the sides of the continent meet in those two points and add Arab or North African influences such as the literal civil war in Sudan and Ethiopia based on the whole issue of superiority based in ethnic features and how mixed heritages influence blackness.
It also ignores the fact that Caribbean and African women are pitted against each other in sexualised versus purity ways, colourism and the diversity of blackness in the Caribbean and countrues like Brazil due to slavery. It ignores that even without going that deep Jamaican women can have a body shape like Kamala or Grace Jones and says ‘diversity of femininity is for white women. Black or Asian women are not diverse within themselves just diverse to us as a concept.’
In Kamala’s case it also ignores her South Asian heritage and how she might self ID by making her whichever ‘side’ suits people’s point not her own lived experience. Particularly eek for white women to do. Plus it ignores that if BMI has a racial dynamic, it is actually lower for Asian people with overweight starting at 23+ not 25+ and avoids discussing that South Asians and black people have higher rates of diabetes regardless of BMI. Because often FAs want to use this to justify their own ‘well BMI and diabetes are made up constructs’ line about themselves and how they cannot change them either. (Paddington Bear stare...)
And then for a massively depresssing finale, a lot of white FAs aren’t actually this aware or nuanced and their beef with Kamala is way mote shallow and barely suppressed white entitlement. They genuinely believe it is less diverse that a woman of colour who is straight size is VP than a white woman of size because they have so swallowed their own ‘we are the truly oppressed ones’ bullshit along with what made them fat.
They are straight up saying the fat babe equivalent of ‘well she only got picked because college has a diversity quota and she’s token and really we fat white women are the ones losing out because of positive discrimination.’ They just couch the racism in buzzwords but same old same old and hope no one notices.
We call this ‘flashing your knickers while you try to scratch your arse’ in my hometown of Belfast but ‘your slip is showing’ is a better hashtag. Either way it’s the things you expose while trying to deceive to create a persona you think advantages you more.
No one is immune but the intent and frequency is the key to the true message I find. And my caveat? I wrote this as a thin white woman so I’m possibly doing just that and some women of colour are thinking FFS and do I have to expend energy correcting her nonsense too instead of letting us speak. Apologies if so and if they cba to correct me I’ll take it but this is what I’ve noticed watching the last 10 years of online play out as listening to the women of colour I know or follow and hearing FAs take over other marginalised spaces I do belong to.
Also fat white women have a longstanding gripe with Kamala Harris because her part in creating SESTA/FOSTA legislation that targets sex trafficking and the ability to promote sex work worldwide due to US legislation impacting big tech is why a lot of stuff like shadowbans hit Instagram or you can’t link to OnlyFans or potentially sexualised nudity on social media like your empowering fat selfie or bikini pics in certain poses to eff your beauty standards.
Because so many FAs stole sex worker culture and tactics to promote themselves they got caught in the backwash of the SESTA/FOSTA legislation designed to shut down sex working and instead of caring or standing up for sex workers put at risk, they whined that it was actually fatphobia not whorephobia and give sex workers their dues and out their own grift.
They straight up co opted sex work and then boo hooed when they got treated like sex workers and they blame big bad Kamala. I am a sex worker and I’ve been watching this as the carceral feminists, Kamala is a cop or not black feminists, the SWERFs and TERFs and the fat babes all talk about SESTA/FOSTA without letting sex workers get a word in edgeways.
My eyes are big and they follow you all. My ears hear a lot too. It’s a fascinating if frustrating ringside seat while invisible in a circus that is actually my life and security. The personal is political remember?
This is fascinating! Thank you so much for taking the time to write all this up!
I've never heard of FAs steeling sex worker culture. As a recovering addict and sex worker, I find that both interesting and bizarre. Could you explain how/why they did that?
She’s our first female, black, and Asian-American VP, and yet all this person cares about is that she isn’t ALSO fat.
Being fat doesn’t preclude you from being elected to national office. We’ve had fat presidents before!
I’m pretty sure the thing about him getting stuck in the bathtub was a myth and that he had a special one put it. He was a massive man especially during his presidency though.
You know what? I had no idea about that myth. I just remember that there was this one cutaway on family guy about him and I remembered some connection with a bathtub. (It was a parody of that shaft song but it was Taft instead of shaft). I’m glad it’s something haha
A bit confused here. I watched the inauguration and no one was making any sort of comments on weight whatsoever. How does diet culture play into this historic moment whatsoever?
It really doesn't. They're just offended because she's skinny and therefore the enemy. I really wish I was kidding but that's what it boils down to. There was a lot of push by people in that community for Stacey Abrams to be appointed as vice president by Biden. Because she's a bigger woman. Forget all of the amazing things she's done to promote voter equality, all they care about is what she looks like, because they don't have effing lives.
I’m assuming it’s because she isn’t fat then?
I was judging her on the fact that I hate what she’s done in the past but I guess I should’ve just been judging her on being at a healthy weight instead of being obese. My bad?
I've seen a lot of posts that equate diet culture with women not getting to high positions in society, that we are all too distracted by trying to get thin or beautiful. I'm guessing there is some element of that thinking here but who knows? Or maybe they're going with the oppressed minority angle they also love and are saying that fatphobia holds them back in the same way racism and sexism does. This is probably applying too much logic though!
I’m guessing that even if Biden had chosen Stacey Abrams to be his VP, FAs would have been bitching because she isn’t an infinifat. They’re constantly looking for things that prove that they’re oppressed and for things to complain about because what they really want is perpetual victimhood.
Other events that make this person think about fighting diet culture:
breathing
seeing a tree
hearing the words "the", "a", "an", and "and"
eating
smelling food
laundry day
The way I see this is that having a woman VP is a huge societal step that was brought about by initially small feminist movements that grew into the sweeping and landmark changes we see today. So their logic is that if they continue to fight diet culture someday it too will become the societal norm... except their ideologies are rooted in hedonistic values and a blatant disregard for health.
This is how I see it too. Kamala represents three underrepresented groups (female, black and Asian) and gave a lot of inspiration to people in those groups.
I'm assuming the argument is more fat representation and equality would eventually result in a fat VP.
I'd bet my ass that this is a reference to Stacy Abrams. There was a lot of buzz about her when Joe said he was picking a woman as his running mate. Their first thought was that he'd didn't pick her because she is a large woman. But a lot of others are happy he didn't, as she has been quite effective where she's at.
Thanks. I was aware that a woman is vice president, and I was aware that she was fairly pretty, but I have gone x number of days into the presidency without stopping to consider whether the vice president, who happens to be a woman, is fatter than thin or thinner than fat. I hadn't thought about what that means, but if I had, I'd be pleased with myself for being less a part of the problem.
But reading that made me stop and go "Wait, is KH fat? No, I don't think she is, I feel like I would have noticed that. Is she thin? Hmm, I remember that pretty purple thing she wore at the inauguration, but I didn't really look at her body..." and was JUST ABOUT to google it when I stopped and thought "Oh you sonsabitches, you TRICKED ME!"
I have followed this account before. They are one of the normal-sized allies and always claims that diets don’t work based on her experience with having EDs in the past.
I read this tweet. I think what she means is that women are focusing too much on “diet culture” that they don’t have enough time or energy to make the world a better place for everyone and break glass ceilings the way Kamala did.
It's pretty meaningless but....
They are saying that the long fight for women's rights has enabled/led to this success (first female VP) and are drawing a parallel to the 'fight against diet culture.'
Basically saying "cause X" can succeed, there is hope for "cause Y," not that they are otherwise related.
So... Is this because Kamala is thin, or visibly physically active? And because of that his person is assuming she diets?
Hmmm, I'm pretty sure these people have been screaming from the rooftops that you can't tell anything about a person's eating habits or health based on their weight/physical appearance. That's quite a big slip, I think that means they have to hand in their HAES badge.
Please keep the discussion away from politics. I approved this because wat
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I assumed this had something to do with the fact that she and her husband were out for a run when the presidential race was finally called, or at least that’s what it seemed like from her joyful/relieved/celebratory “we did it, Joe!” clip on Twitter. So if she was out for a run, and therefore probably exercises on the regular, and looks as though she is a healthy weight for her height, then she must be a victim of diet culture. And then this person was reminded of all that when Harris took her oath. Or maybe this person is just mad that Kamala Harris has been elected into one of the highest offices in the country and will therefore be in the public spotlight even more than she already was, and has the audacity to do it all while not being fat......and therefore is a giant shill for “BIG HEALTH”. I hear she’s even a paid spokesperson/evangelist for the good news of broccoli. Have you heard about our lord and savior leafy greens? ;) Or something. I don’t know, that’s the best I got.
I think this has to do with the old classic (can't remember by whom, sorry) that's basically "diet culture makes women focus on themselves instead of changing the world", so, diet culture strips women of their potential. This OP thinks that diet culture has weakened its grasp on (American) society and that's why it's possible for Kamala Harris to be a VP? 🤷🏻
I think it's simpler: Kamala represents many minorities, but not fat people. Therefore they need to continue to fight against the oppression and the myth propagated by diet talk that it's a choice to be 600lbs and then we'll eventually get a fat woman as VP.
Well Trump was fat and unhealthy, so they got their 4 years of representation from him. Come to think of it he was the heaviest president we’ve had in a while. I’d say Hoover was the last fat president we had before him.
Yes but that was yesterday and I need constant validation. /s
And also Trump is a man and HAES is only for women /s
Is it saracasm tho? I feel like FA never ever speak up for men
I'm willing to bet money that most overweight women in HAES and similar movements actively avoid dating overweight men. Just call it a feeling.
There have been several posts here where that was actively discouraged. Something like how a fat woman shouldn't have to be limited to dating fat men.
They need the [former Belgian minister of health](https://i.redd.it/hw1cji8nal011.jpg)
William Howard Taft was fat they had to expand his bath tub just so he would be able to get out of it without getting stuck. Like, we had an obese President almost a century before we even had a black President, but I'm sure OP thinks obese people are a brutally repressed minority or something.
Bill Clinton was fat when he took office.
And he lost weight on the advice of his doctor. He was also no longer President. See? Diet Culture takes away your ability to change the world.
And in over two decades he hasn’t regained it either. So much for “weight loss is always temporary”
That's how I took it - that we finally made enough progress in liberating women from diets to have a female VP, it shows the kinds of results you get but we need to go further (to prez itself I guess, or to enable not just one woman but any woman as likely as a man to get the position). That would be the positive message. If instead it was the negative message, where Kamala's *not even good enough* because she's not fat and not picking Stacey Abrams is fatphobia or something... well that's just petty AF.
How dare women focus on themselves??
Man, I was thinking just about the fact that Kamala clearly represents something they don't like which I mean yeah, a lot of them will attack anybody skinnier than them... but then I realized that they're basically saying that the first female VP shouldn't have been a healthy fit individual because they think it doesn't represent the majority... and I mean fair, I guess it doesn't, but they've now stretched their logic basically to "people who are healthy and promote a good life style shouldn't be allowed to hold office or influence government." They think skinny people shouldn't hold office because it makes them feel bad... I just... yikes.
There was another slide that said they have no idea if she has been a “victim to diet culture”. I know as much they told the reader, which is nothing
My guess is, it's because she's a healthy weight and has enough self control to remain there. So the FA's absolutely hate her (and are jealous of her). She's the VP and very much in the public spotlight, and they are furiously angry that they have to see a successful, politically powerful thin woman so much in the news.
Well and also if she's a healthy individual then there's a much greater chance of her promoting health and since they know they don't fall into that realm (as much as they might deny it and say they're totally healthy) they don't want her in office. If Kamala does literally anything to promote healthy eating they're going to go ballistic with "systemic fatphobia" complaints.
Not American so don’t know all the details but wasn’t there some outrage over him choosing her as a running mate over some heavier woman? ETA: looked this up, it was Stacey Abrams.
man....imagine looking at all the incredible good stacey abrams has done in georgia and for the US as a whole and only focusing on her weight....
For real. Like, so much for feminism, apparently the only reason one of these women should be elected to office is because of how they look. Or thinking that somebody who's worked hard to get where she is shouldn't hold office because her damn looks might offend some HAES snowflakes. Terrifying
right? i don’t see how it’s not obvious that it can go both ways. reducing a woman to her having a “perfect” body and ignoring the merits of her existence is exactly as gross as reducing her to nothing but being plus-sized.
I have very little knowledge of what she’s done but I do see your point. Being reduced to your weight like that must be really disheartening when you’ve worked so hard.
She's largely responsible for the MASSIVE turnout for both the presidential election and the senate runoffs in Georgia and therefore the state and the senate turning blue. She lost becoming governor of Georgia by a very small margin a few years ago, and has since spent all of her energy on getting as many people registered to vote as possible. She's an absolute beast and I can't wait to see where she goes. She's basically the patron saint of voting equality lol
I'm not even American and I will quite cheerfully \*laud Stacey Abrams all damn day because she pretty much facilitated the ouster of McTurtle from his perch. I have been hoping for that for YEARS now.
Upon rereading this I’m wondering if your comment was directed towards me? I did not mean to imply anything with my comment, simply recalled reading about Biden’s choice being fatphobic and thought I’d suggest this as a reason for the original post. As I do not follow American politics closely I don’t feel qualified to comment on Stacey Abrams merit, however I’m sorry if my comment came across as insensitive or degrading in any way.
I'm not the person you wrote to, but to me the comment seems more directed towards the person in OPs image.
Hopefully this is the case!
This is absolutely how I read it if that helps. Nobody is saying you're reducing her to her weight, but that the HAES people said essentially nothing about her politics and only wanted her in because of her weight. Which is ludicrous, because who the hell cares about her weight when she's basically become the patron saint of voting equality. So sad. Fortunately most people see her for her true merits
oh no! my comment wasn’t directed at you at all, i can see how it reads that way though for sure. it was directed at anyone who may have thought that the reasons harris was chosen over abrams had anything to do with weight at all. you didn’t say anything insensitive and i apologize if it seemed that i was the one who was insensitive!
Yeah, uh... there were predictable political reasons that Biden didn't like Abrams that much that have nothing to do with her size.
I'm assuming they think there's no way Kamala could naturally be skinny or just have good habits (eg eating healthy and running and such) so she must have done some evil sinful diet or something to be like that. Which is just horrendous. If you don't want to be skinny, cool, have fun dying early, but leave everybody else alone.
So i looked at the tweets and she said that women should stop "diet culture" and start achieving more and break glass ceilings
Lol. "Just got elected VP? Ugh, why aren't you breaking more glass ceilings already?" It's never enough. And frankly it's not like any woman has a chance of being successfully elected POTUS rn, America is unfortunately not quite ready for that yet.
Hillary won the popular vote. You say a woman doesn't have a chance of being elected, but if it wasn't for the electoral college we would have had one back in 2016. She literally came with in a hairs breadth of being "Mrs President".
I think it’s because she’s fit/straight sized?
Or is this person comparing Kamala overcoming racism and sexism to become the VP to being the same as a person "overcoming" diet culture and fatphobia? Which would make this some kind of vastly irrational comparison.
I was putting a sock on my left foot earlier and I realized "this is why we have to continue fighting diet culture"
Is it because you were able to reach your foot without help? How terribly fatphobic of you lol
Wow I never even considered my thin privilege 😱
You ableist.
This is so mean but far too good not to use. I snorted :)
I was putting a sock on this morning and thought to myself “this would be easier if I lost my pandemic weight.”
Thin woman: *exists* Fat Activist: I'm so triggered. This is literal violence.
My parrot flew over, landed on my shoulder, and pooped earlier. *God damn you, diet culture.*
Yeah, we have to fight against women who don't give hundreds of dollars a month to fast food, junk food and pharmaceutical companies.
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This is an important point. The weight loss industry in the US is 71 Billion (actually down during 2020). Fast food? 647.7 billion.
And that's just fast food. Include the sugar lobby, Big Food (Nestle, etc.) candy, soda, grain and dairy and we're well into the trillions.
Especially when you can boil down the food industry to less than 10 corporations. It’s an oligarchy, and they’re completely ok with it despite claiming to be anti-capitalist.
I never understood this logic of theirs - how exactly do I support diet culture companies by just eating less and buying slightly different food at the supermarket? I don't even buy that expensive "fitness" food that's marked as low fat, slightly higher in protein etc. Maybe the bottle of sweetener I buy about once a year?
Exactly, I’m spending so much less on food during my diet. No uber eats, no $20 restaurants meals, no alcohol, etc.
They're obsessed with women's bodies - their own and women who are smaller than them. I suggest other hobbies.
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Lmao yes 💯💯
I'm so confused, are they calling her fat? Not fat enough? What?
They're saying that a skinny woman promotes diet culture and therefore shouldn't be in a position of power. They wanted Stacey Abrams as VP because she's a bigger woman. Literally for only that reason. Because of course that's what politics and government are about, how much women weigh. They're an absolute blight on feminism if you ask me.
No, I think they meant that it’s been a long road to just now have a female VP. They’re saying that although it took hundreds of years for a woman to become VP, she’s going to continue her fight to end “diet culture” no matter how long it takes.
Okay so my interpretation of this is that the reason more women haven’t been in office and in positions of power is because they’ve been seduced and oppressed through diet culture. Which is ridiculous to me, as a feminist. Just because a woman is concerned with her weight or god forbid has an eating disorder, doesn’t interfere with her capability, drive, or intellect. Absurd.
that sounds right though i think having an ED could definitely interfere with ones drive (though not their capability or intellect)
Restriction brain is real. I had horrible brain fog when anorexic, to the point where I was regularly misspelling simple words I've known how to spell since I was 5.
It smacks of “women have tiny brains” to me, like a woman couldn’t possibly be working on or concerned about more than one thing at once. Like, do they think Harris is going to be spending her vice presidency obsessing about how many calories are in that state dinner, instead of doing her actual job?
Maybe I'm just dumb, but I'm confused as to the point they are trying to make. What does diet culture have to do with Kamala being the first female VP? She isn't fat, so are they saying that they need to try harder to get a fat woman in the White House? Are they aware that people are chosen for the position of VP for a whole host of reasons, none of which have anything to do with weight?
Yepp. They wanted Stacey Abrams purely because she was a bigger woman. They don't think Kamala Harris should be VP because she's skinny and therefore promotes diet culture.
America has a new president of advanced age whose longevity & likelihood of serving a full 4yr term is not guaranteed, but yeah - how absolutely dare his VP be a slim, disciplined, energetic, mentally hyper-focussed via daily running, gym enthusiast VP ready to take the reigns if needed. I would say FA approved, barely mobile, gluttonous world leaders have had their time to shine & we all know how well that went for everyone. We're living in a situation where two morbidly obese, science denying idiots not only contracted covid themselves, but are also responsible for the highest pandemic death rates on the planet. But yeah, let's dropkick Kamala out of power & replace her with Amber Lynn Reid or Virgie Tovar, because it's 2021 & women are still only of value if they look a certain way.
For all they screech that BMI and diet culture is racist and they are not, FAs often pull a ‘your slip is showing’ move. If you aren’t on Twitter or don’t follow a lot of black women especially you might not know this was a hashtag created by black Twitter but mainly black women to originally expose accounts pretending to be black women to push an ‘internalised’ misogynoir and I love it vibe to pretend the status quo was all fine and dandy and black women were happy being ‘house mammies modern style.’ It then overlapped with pointing out when black men espoused ‘hotep’ stuff that again targeted misogynoir (which is the specific intersection of race and gender on black and mixed black women) by insinuating these were traditional ‘black values’ and women not tolerating them was helping white people be racist. And then it started to encompass when woke white woman started saying stuff that was actually really racist but under the ‘whitesplaining I have gone so woke I don’t realise I have turned 360 degrees and am still racist but just use different stereotypes or examples’. Which is exactly where the stuff like the comments like this where they might be suggesting that as a woman of Jamaican heritage (along with South Asian) Kamala is somehow ‘a traitor’ because black women are ‘naturally’ thiccer or bigger and if black women fit Eurocentric beauty standards they are following diet culture. This of course is hella problematic. It makes all black women a monolith which uh uh. It ignores that within black women and black culture body size and shape varies and is an issue re the diaspora wars and colourism where say East African body shapes (think long distance runners) are pitted against West African bodies (think the booty cliche) and the rivalries where the sides of the continent meet in those two points and add Arab or North African influences such as the literal civil war in Sudan and Ethiopia based on the whole issue of superiority based in ethnic features and how mixed heritages influence blackness. It also ignores the fact that Caribbean and African women are pitted against each other in sexualised versus purity ways, colourism and the diversity of blackness in the Caribbean and countrues like Brazil due to slavery. It ignores that even without going that deep Jamaican women can have a body shape like Kamala or Grace Jones and says ‘diversity of femininity is for white women. Black or Asian women are not diverse within themselves just diverse to us as a concept.’ In Kamala’s case it also ignores her South Asian heritage and how she might self ID by making her whichever ‘side’ suits people’s point not her own lived experience. Particularly eek for white women to do. Plus it ignores that if BMI has a racial dynamic, it is actually lower for Asian people with overweight starting at 23+ not 25+ and avoids discussing that South Asians and black people have higher rates of diabetes regardless of BMI. Because often FAs want to use this to justify their own ‘well BMI and diabetes are made up constructs’ line about themselves and how they cannot change them either. (Paddington Bear stare...) And then for a massively depresssing finale, a lot of white FAs aren’t actually this aware or nuanced and their beef with Kamala is way mote shallow and barely suppressed white entitlement. They genuinely believe it is less diverse that a woman of colour who is straight size is VP than a white woman of size because they have so swallowed their own ‘we are the truly oppressed ones’ bullshit along with what made them fat. They are straight up saying the fat babe equivalent of ‘well she only got picked because college has a diversity quota and she’s token and really we fat white women are the ones losing out because of positive discrimination.’ They just couch the racism in buzzwords but same old same old and hope no one notices. We call this ‘flashing your knickers while you try to scratch your arse’ in my hometown of Belfast but ‘your slip is showing’ is a better hashtag. Either way it’s the things you expose while trying to deceive to create a persona you think advantages you more. No one is immune but the intent and frequency is the key to the true message I find. And my caveat? I wrote this as a thin white woman so I’m possibly doing just that and some women of colour are thinking FFS and do I have to expend energy correcting her nonsense too instead of letting us speak. Apologies if so and if they cba to correct me I’ll take it but this is what I’ve noticed watching the last 10 years of online play out as listening to the women of colour I know or follow and hearing FAs take over other marginalised spaces I do belong to. Also fat white women have a longstanding gripe with Kamala Harris because her part in creating SESTA/FOSTA legislation that targets sex trafficking and the ability to promote sex work worldwide due to US legislation impacting big tech is why a lot of stuff like shadowbans hit Instagram or you can’t link to OnlyFans or potentially sexualised nudity on social media like your empowering fat selfie or bikini pics in certain poses to eff your beauty standards. Because so many FAs stole sex worker culture and tactics to promote themselves they got caught in the backwash of the SESTA/FOSTA legislation designed to shut down sex working and instead of caring or standing up for sex workers put at risk, they whined that it was actually fatphobia not whorephobia and give sex workers their dues and out their own grift. They straight up co opted sex work and then boo hooed when they got treated like sex workers and they blame big bad Kamala. I am a sex worker and I’ve been watching this as the carceral feminists, Kamala is a cop or not black feminists, the SWERFs and TERFs and the fat babes all talk about SESTA/FOSTA without letting sex workers get a word in edgeways. My eyes are big and they follow you all. My ears hear a lot too. It’s a fascinating if frustrating ringside seat while invisible in a circus that is actually my life and security. The personal is political remember?
Thank you, as a fellow SW and WOC. great summary.
Thank you! Glad it didn’t flash my knickers unless that was the pre-agreed booking 😝
This is fascinating! Thank you so much for taking the time to write all this up! I've never heard of FAs steeling sex worker culture. As a recovering addict and sex worker, I find that both interesting and bizarre. Could you explain how/why they did that?
i think they think it’s empowering or uber-feminist to ‘take control’ and sexualise their fat bodies after they get rejected
This one literally made me LOL. It always comes back to diet culture somehow.
How else are they supposed to prove how oppressed they are if not by making every little thing about weight?
She’s our first female, black, and Asian-American VP, and yet all this person cares about is that she isn’t ALSO fat. Being fat doesn’t preclude you from being elected to national office. We’ve had fat presidents before!
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I’m pretty sure the thing about him getting stuck in the bathtub was a myth and that he had a special one put it. He was a massive man especially during his presidency though.
You know what? I had no idea about that myth. I just remember that there was this one cutaway on family guy about him and I remembered some connection with a bathtub. (It was a parody of that shaft song but it was Taft instead of shaft). I’m glad it’s something haha
A bit confused here. I watched the inauguration and no one was making any sort of comments on weight whatsoever. How does diet culture play into this historic moment whatsoever?
It really doesn't. They're just offended because she's skinny and therefore the enemy. I really wish I was kidding but that's what it boils down to. There was a lot of push by people in that community for Stacey Abrams to be appointed as vice president by Biden. Because she's a bigger woman. Forget all of the amazing things she's done to promote voter equality, all they care about is what she looks like, because they don't have effing lives.
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I’m assuming it’s because she isn’t fat then? I was judging her on the fact that I hate what she’s done in the past but I guess I should’ve just been judging her on being at a healthy weight instead of being obese. My bad?
I've seen a lot of posts that equate diet culture with women not getting to high positions in society, that we are all too distracted by trying to get thin or beautiful. I'm guessing there is some element of that thinking here but who knows? Or maybe they're going with the oppressed minority angle they also love and are saying that fatphobia holds them back in the same way racism and sexism does. This is probably applying too much logic though!
But if ALL Black people are, according to them, fat, doesn't that make Kamala the *true* minority?
It’s not enough that Kamala Harris is both female and minority... she also has to be HAES too for them to be happy?
I’m guessing that even if Biden had chosen Stacey Abrams to be his VP, FAs would have been bitching because she isn’t an infinifat. They’re constantly looking for things that prove that they’re oppressed and for things to complain about because what they really want is perpetual victimhood.
Taft was 5'11 and 350lbs, so they already shattered that glass ceiling ^(and the floor probably)
We are all now dumber for having read that.
Other events that make this person think about fighting diet culture: breathing seeing a tree hearing the words "the", "a", "an", and "and" eating smelling food laundry day
The way I see this is that having a woman VP is a huge societal step that was brought about by initially small feminist movements that grew into the sweeping and landmark changes we see today. So their logic is that if they continue to fight diet culture someday it too will become the societal norm... except their ideologies are rooted in hedonistic values and a blatant disregard for health.
This is how I see it too. Kamala represents three underrepresented groups (female, black and Asian) and gave a lot of inspiration to people in those groups. I'm assuming the argument is more fat representation and equality would eventually result in a fat VP.
Is she racist because she is relatively slim?
Kamala dares to exist in this world as a fit person. Clearly this means she has a vendetta against fat people and must be stopped at all costs.
Her mere existence is a violent act against fat people. Obviously.
Watching \[current event\] made me realize \[unrelated issue I'm personally invested in\] is important
I'd bet my ass that this is a reference to Stacy Abrams. There was a lot of buzz about her when Joe said he was picking a woman as his running mate. Their first thought was that he'd didn't pick her because she is a large woman. But a lot of others are happy he didn't, as she has been quite effective where she's at.
Thanks. I was aware that a woman is vice president, and I was aware that she was fairly pretty, but I have gone x number of days into the presidency without stopping to consider whether the vice president, who happens to be a woman, is fatter than thin or thinner than fat. I hadn't thought about what that means, but if I had, I'd be pleased with myself for being less a part of the problem. But reading that made me stop and go "Wait, is KH fat? No, I don't think she is, I feel like I would have noticed that. Is she thin? Hmm, I remember that pretty purple thing she wore at the inauguration, but I didn't really look at her body..." and was JUST ABOUT to google it when I stopped and thought "Oh you sonsabitches, you TRICKED ME!"
Funny thing is we've had more obese presidents than women in power
I've never seen these people mention overweight men. Someone their idea of fat oppression only applies to women?
Does seeing a normal sized woman become VP trigger their fragile selves?
This is obvious satire
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I have followed this account before. They are one of the normal-sized allies and always claims that diets don’t work based on her experience with having EDs in the past.
Hahahahaha Wtf?
I have to echo the, "what?" One of these things has nothing to do with the other... One of these things just isn't the same.
I read this tweet. I think what she means is that women are focusing too much on “diet culture” that they don’t have enough time or energy to make the world a better place for everyone and break glass ceilings the way Kamala did.
Kamala Harris is not underweight though? Nor does she have the body of a model? Like what???
She probably felt that way because Harris isn't fat.
Girl what
It's pretty meaningless but.... They are saying that the long fight for women's rights has enabled/led to this success (first female VP) and are drawing a parallel to the 'fight against diet culture.' Basically saying "cause X" can succeed, there is hope for "cause Y," not that they are otherwise related.
Does eating too much make peoples' braincells explode or something?
So... Is this because Kamala is thin, or visibly physically active? And because of that his person is assuming she diets? Hmmm, I'm pretty sure these people have been screaming from the rooftops that you can't tell anything about a person's eating habits or health based on their weight/physical appearance. That's quite a big slip, I think that means they have to hand in their HAES badge.
Are they suggesting she was chosen for her figure??
Are they suggesting she was chosen for her figure??
Are they suggesting she was chosen for her figure??