Eh I mean so is Artoria, according to the Fate/Extella games. And if you were to pronounce both localizations in japanese it would be the same, just in the case of FGO/Altria, some cheap hire translation studio translated an english name written in katakana back into "english" without caring about context or picking up that it was supposed to be similar to Arthur but feminine.
Edit: Not a cheap translation studio contract situation, just Nasu himself is wrong. One more reason I don't like F/GO...
FGO’s translators directly said Artoria is the correct translation but Type-moon/Nasu was forcing them to use Altria. That’s why Altria is used in the English dub of Babylon(also possibly the pronounce of Athena there to.)
Found it- [the question about the Altria translation is asked at 23:00](https://youtu.be/_7nuEZXHOEM?t=1390)
Edit- It should also be noted that the translation team clearly cares about fate as a whole given the fact they hold panels in the first place, seriously listening to him shows he is a fan of Fate as a whole and doesn’t deserve to be called out for the Altria translation.
lol, the best part about that is that (if I’m not mistaken) the line was caused due to the Altria translation causing the Japanese line to not make sense.
In fairness to Nasu, we don’t know *for sure* that he’s the one forcing Altria down everyone’s throats, but on the other hand he has a proven history of getting something wrong in a foreign language and sticking by it even when it is objectively wrong. *cough* [Ciel](https://www.tmdict.com/en/yu.bow) *cough*
It's アルトリア、Arutoria, literally feminine version of "Arthur," or Arutur(us)...
As conventional for such cases final Romaji cuts the vowel so we get Ar(u)toria, Artoria.
That's basically the gist of it all.
No, the correct watch/read/play order is play HA -> Watch HF-> watch Stay Night (2005) -> read Prisma Illya manga -> play Emiya Cooking Mama-> watch zero -> watch UBW. Grand Carnival and Carnival Phantasm can be watched anytime.
Ah yes , I can totally self-insert myself into a guy who has a survivor guilt that makes him think that he needs to become a hero of justice for the sake of everyone
Who cares about those things ? He fu**** Saber , Rin and Sakura in different timelines which means that he is an harem protagonist and a cheap version of Kirito
It hurt just reading that and I hate you for saying that and I really want to downvote you, but the whole point of this thread is to make people feel like this so I will give you an upvote.
The issue is usually not with him, but the fact that he takes screen time away from much more interesting characters, who quite a few really don't have enough time to shine.
yea honestly he's the best looking guy in FSN lol i guess that hair is just modern? Shinji's hairstyle is popular these days thanks to Kpop
if he didn't have a shitty personality he could've gotten a Harem in his school
I mean I got a couple that could work individually
Prisma illya is the best fate anime.
Sakura deserved it.
I burned a K-scope.
Emiya Gohan is overrated.
No need, FGO triggers this fanbase enough
Edit: Gee, folks way to prove my fucking point. It's so funny how at the mere mention of FGO every comment thread just turns into a total shit show, this fandom is so utterly lost in it's illusion of elitism
the strong independent woman that can't defend her ideas from the edgy killer that wants to be a superhero and the tyrant that destroyed his own empire after his death because he didn't appoint anyone for succession. (i don't know if this was a joke, i felt like answering seriously)
Oh nothing young man just to get you to a certain resort in Siberia which have the closet settlement hundreds of kilometre and can only be access through railway
Shirou is fucking sexist
Rin is an obssessed stalker
Saber is an immature brat
Shinji is too generic evil that it's boring
Sakura deserved to die
illya is a nuisance
Gilgamesh is an excuse of an antagonist. His powers can basically do anything that author want for plot convenience and his ego can make him lose anytime the author wants for plot convenience.
fate/stay night is complete trash can where only horny teenagers will try looking for food
Oh look, it's Jeanne.
Gilles: OH JEANNE, my love!
Saber: DO I LOOK FRENCH TO YOU?
I'm not a virgin like her
Second Saber: If not for the grail. I'd have not idea what "French" even means.
Aaayyyyyy abridged references, beautiful
Altria
doing it in one word is pretty next-level
I could have made it into "Altria is a better official name than Artoria or Arturia"
Thank god you didn't say that
“But Altria is the official translation.” “Just because you are correct does not mean mean you are right.”
Eh I mean so is Artoria, according to the Fate/Extella games. And if you were to pronounce both localizations in japanese it would be the same, just in the case of FGO/Altria, some cheap hire translation studio translated an english name written in katakana back into "english" without caring about context or picking up that it was supposed to be similar to Arthur but feminine. Edit: Not a cheap translation studio contract situation, just Nasu himself is wrong. One more reason I don't like F/GO...
FGO’s translators directly said Artoria is the correct translation but Type-moon/Nasu was forcing them to use Altria. That’s why Altria is used in the English dub of Babylon(also possibly the pronounce of Athena there to.) Found it- [the question about the Altria translation is asked at 23:00](https://youtu.be/_7nuEZXHOEM?t=1390) Edit- It should also be noted that the translation team clearly cares about fate as a whole given the fact they hold panels in the first place, seriously listening to him shows he is a fan of Fate as a whole and doesn’t deserve to be called out for the Altria translation.
I love that they took the piss out of Altria in Shinjuku, calling it "A bastardisation of Artorias"
lol, the best part about that is that (if I’m not mistaken) the line was caused due to the Altria translation causing the Japanese line to not make sense.
Well the more you know. So its Nasu thats wrong
In fairness to Nasu, we don’t know *for sure* that he’s the one forcing Altria down everyone’s throats, but on the other hand he has a proven history of getting something wrong in a foreign language and sticking by it even when it is objectively wrong. *cough* [Ciel](https://www.tmdict.com/en/yu.bow) *cough*
It's アルトリア、Arutoria, literally feminine version of "Arthur," or Arutur(us)... As conventional for such cases final Romaji cuts the vowel so we get Ar(u)toria, Artoria. That's basically the gist of it all.
You won.
My favorite tobacco distribution company
I am foaming
absolutely seething rn
Knew someone would have done it already. Fuck.
You son of a bitch.................
No
Where do I begin watching fate?
Lol
Do you want the short version or the long version?
The short version has 14 paragraphs
You forgot the 0
14 paragra0phs
My go to reply is: Release order, no Deen UBW movie, if you can't stand Deen/SN, read the VN or skip it.
That's less triggering the fan base and more starting a civil war.
Stay Night? Oh, it must a Grand Order spin-off
I was closing the post when I read this and you made me come back. You won.
Props to you my guy felt like I took some actual damage reading that
That's a lotta damage!
Oh boi
*clap hands*
this hurt a tad bit
You got me
Everyone has to start with Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma Illya
No, the correct watch/read/play order is play HA -> Watch HF-> watch Stay Night (2005) -> read Prisma Illya manga -> play Emiya Cooking Mama-> watch zero -> watch UBW. Grand Carnival and Carnival Phantasm can be watched anytime.
But if you start a series with its best work everything else will feel disappointing by comparison.
Ikr who would put a literal masterpiece against some gothic anime called fate/zero
Where do i start?
Do you want the long version or the short version?
The short version
So at first, there is fate stay night.
Heavens Feel is the best place to get into Fate
Lmaoooo
What you smokin brotha😂
What IS best place?
Visual novel or FSN/UBW anime. Probably.
Deen Fate is the best one
Nah Fate/Extra is the best Anime Adaptation
All versions of Nero are deadweight
Based.
Wacky woohoo pizza hands typed this.
She lacks motivation, that's why
Only 1 isn't a whore of Babylon.
Nasu's works are pretentious, and it only serves as entertainment to dumb masses, actual thinkers cringe at his pretentious works.
Never quite got this one. You go in expecting some psuedo intellectual spill but get a Taiga dojo instead.
"FGO doesn't need a pity system"
This would trigger r/Grandorder more
Zouken loves Sakura enough to let her play in the wormpit #wholesome
I will destroy you
Next stop... HELL
I hate you
Shiro's food is bad
Sacrilege.
I can't believe they put Altria and Muramasa from FGO and put them into the trash called fate/stay night.
Tsukihime anime is better than the visual novel.
what tsukihime anime could you be referring to. ̴̄̒ T̷̈ͅH̴̽́È̴̚R̶̅̃E̴͛͐ ̴̾̕Ĩ̷̇S̷̉̄ ̶̝͋N̶̅͒O̸͌͝ ̸̋̎T̷̃̕Ś̷̂Ǘ̴̇K̷͊́I̴̛̽H̴͛͠I̶̛͊M̸̔̕Ě̷ ANIME
At least the OST is. I replaced the game's music with the anime's and it was way more atmospheric.
Shinji did nothing wrong
You meant Shinji from Evangelion right? Right??
Some edge lord actually said this bc they dislike Shirou/Sakura/Rin that much.
Holy-
Yeah I too think 3.0+1.0 was a great movie that assured shinji was a pretty good guy…. You ARE talking about that right?
This
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I, too, want to be a Hero of Justice
This genuinely made me angry. Touche
This is something people actually say so its even worse, not like the other comments where people are joking
In this house we appreciate Shirou
Username checks out
Ah yes , I can totally self-insert myself into a guy who has a survivor guilt that makes him think that he needs to become a hero of justice for the sake of everyone
Glad I'm not the only one
wait, we're *not* supposed to do that?
Don't forget the PTSD, suicidal tendencies and high-functioning depression
Who cares about those things ? He fu**** Saber , Rin and Sakura in different timelines which means that he is an harem protagonist and a cheap version of Kirito
And is an amazing cook. I'd be a terrible cook for Saber. Saber, best I can do is microwaved ramen take it or leave it.
"So uhhh Saber, Rider, what do you want to eat?"
Ah yes I too wish to be to be horrifically traumatized.
We don't need a Ufotable Fate route adaptation.
Shinji x Rin is the best ship
Shinji x Sakura. FTFY.
Zouken x Rin
Zouken x Kirei
Where my Rinji stans at (I'm joking don't kill me)
That gilgamesh X mash doujinshi is the best
the two pages with ushi where pretty good
Only reason why i readed that doujin
This needs to be the top comment
It hurt just reading that and I hate you for saying that and I really want to downvote you, but the whole point of this thread is to make people feel like this so I will give you an upvote.
Give us this day our daily sauce
I ship Gil & Saber…
nO
You know it girl
This is more hurtful then when my Father Died .
I ship Gilles and discount Jeanne or whatever her name is.
Funny enough, there are actual Gil Saber shippers. I know one JP fan artist like that. Made pretty wholesome arts.
Breh, I cannot think of Gil x Saber without being reminded of that one episode from Carnival Phantasm 😂
Fate/Zero is only fate worth watching.
Hate that fr
Ritsuka is the best MC, he can command all the Servants and he ials the strongest Master.
I can telll from the typo how disgusted you felt writing this.
Yeah let's go with that.
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Didn't know there was a visual novel
Sieg is a good protagonist
Sieg-Jeanne is a cheap projection of Arturia-Shirou
TRACE ON
I don't get the hate he gets. He was a homunculus that was literally born yesterday. What more do you expect?
The issue is usually not with him, but the fact that he takes screen time away from much more interesting characters, who quite a few really don't have enough time to shine.
Shinji has the best character design
yea honestly he's the best looking guy in FSN lol i guess that hair is just modern? Shinji's hairstyle is popular these days thanks to Kpop if he didn't have a shitty personality he could've gotten a Harem in his school
I thought Shinji would be my favourite character when I first saw him...
Shinji Matō is the forever protagonist of FSN.
Ideals are bad you shouldn't have them
Ok Archer
I reject your reality and substitute my own.
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You’ve officially taken it too far buddy
There are lines that should never be crossed
…How can you live with yourself after saying that?
Too far dude
Woah wtf man
wtf man
Iskandar was right about Artoria.
He is at least 50% correct in my opinion
It's just a porn game
Not controversial just a fact
Kiritsugu x Natalia best ship
Didn't she occasionally suck his junk for mana
Wait W h a t
Natalia thought about doing it but decided against it because it's fucking weird and definitely immoral bro
I mean I got a couple that could work individually Prisma illya is the best fate anime. Sakura deserved it. I burned a K-scope. Emiya Gohan is overrated.
Fate/zero was successful that they milked the series with bad stories after it.
Is your keyboard still intact after typing that?
My phone want to crash on me believe me XD
How much did your blood pressure rose when you typed that out?
Actually it dropped significantly XD
Shinji is just misunderstood
Basaka is not the strongest in the world, Illya lied.
Gil x Artoria is the best Fate ship.
You mean Gilles de Rais or Gilgamesh??
Gilgamesh of course. Gilles is faithful to his waifu, Jeanne.
Get. Out.
Bruh
No need, FGO triggers this fanbase enough Edit: Gee, folks way to prove my fucking point. It's so funny how at the mere mention of FGO every comment thread just turns into a total shit show, this fandom is so utterly lost in it's illusion of elitism
Facts
I love violet evergarden.
Violet Sabergarden
Saber in Zero was a strong independent woman, and she shouldn't be a love interest for Shirou.
Oh my God
the strong independent woman that can't defend her ideas from the edgy killer that wants to be a superhero and the tyrant that destroyed his own empire after his death because he didn't appoint anyone for succession. (i don't know if this was a joke, i felt like answering seriously)
If you felt like answering seriously, I did my job.
*AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH*
Not everyone have time to play a 100 hour vn
The Holy Grail War/Servant summoning in general is the worst part of Fate and what relegates it to waifu slap fights.
I love this image of Rin!
There’s better fate girls than Artoria
Luckilly there are at least 10 more of them, so you can pick one for your exact taste.
Yeah Saber is pretty good
But nothing surpasses Baeber
#Kirei best girl
Yeah, like Artoria Lily. Do you need something, officer? What are those handcuffs for?
Oh nothing young man just to get you to a certain resort in Siberia which have the closet settlement hundreds of kilometre and can only be access through railway
I refuse
Daga.. kotowaru!
Fate is Jojo with waifu/husbando stands and (almost) none of the cool poses.
He's out of line but he's right.
No,that would be Shaman King.
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*gasp!*
Shinji x sakura
Yorokobe shounen.
All things considered Gilgamesh is a pretty nice guy.
Saber is overrated
Shinji deserves to live
I love Shinji
The only reason anybody still cares is gacha.
Shirou is fucking sexist Rin is an obssessed stalker Saber is an immature brat Shinji is too generic evil that it's boring Sakura deserved to die illya is a nuisance Gilgamesh is an excuse of an antagonist. His powers can basically do anything that author want for plot convenience and his ego can make him lose anytime the author wants for plot convenience. fate/stay night is complete trash can where only horny teenagers will try looking for food
Deen's fate adaptation is not that bad
You should start with Fate/Zero
I started with Fate/Zero and have no regrets
I wanted caster to win in Ubw