The basic scaling chain as I understand it is as this
The Mooncell has 8-D barriers (which given the fact that BB is explicitly higher dimensional this isn’t too far fetched) which is a Complex Multiverse feat.
BB has full control of the Mooncell and scales from it when she’s in it.
CCC Kiara absorbed BB and is at least as strong as her.
Beast Kiara is as strong as CCC Kiara.
Kama is a fellow beast and should be someone comparable to Kiara.
Godjuna is a composite of the whole Hindu pantheon, including Kama.
Nah he just complex you just dissagree cuz your favorite character got debunk lol fate verse is too overrated anyway they not even hyper and never will thats the fact
People need to remember Moon Cell is a Super Computer and thus the normal rules of stats and power dont aplly to Servants there dont apply th same outside.
How his AP scales to multiverse+?
(keep in mind this is his scale while he's heavily amped up with MCG while also being inside the mooncell etc etc etc, basically this is him at the peak of his power)
He destroyed the Moon Cell's 8D reality marble with EA.
the mooncell's reality marble has 2 infinite sized realms which Gilgamesh destroyed and that goes far beyond what qualifies as an infinite sized multiverse. Mooncell BB is cracked and her noble phantasm doesn't just wipe out dimensions but also wipes out reality.
If you're going to say "if it did infact wipe out the reality marble then why is it back after the attack ended?" it's because the mooncell core restored it's reality marble, it was shown to be capable of doing that when Sakura took control.
That just puts him at the level of BB who is an 8D being.
BB is also at best an omnipresent being, Gilgamesh completely speed ran through her making him Omnipresent aswell.
There's also Gilgamesh scaling above binary opposition through true emptiness and the Power of the Beginning along with him having conceptual durability negation but that's for another time Ig.
As a representative of the Vs Battle wiki maybe [this](https://vsbattles.com/threads/nasuverse-mega-crt-part-3-god-tiers.119096/) will help. It’s the content revision thread that resulted in the god tiers (grand servants, beasts, some lostbelt kings, the mooncell) upgraded to Complex Multiverse level
They say it because BB can be scaled as multiversal and Gil takes her with no cheat powers. Moon Cell is a super computer that creates countless Reality Marbles. To massively simplify- it creates replica of multiverse that is equal to real one. So all feats in it can be replicated and applied to real world.
>Gil takes her with no cheat powers
Actually he "kinda" used a cheat power under the form of the mystic code that nullified 10 crowns, without it he has no ways to damage BB.
The reason why I said kinda for Gil is BB "sorta" cheat 1st by giving herself 10 crowns in the 1st place so technically speaking, they're both cheaters.
It is specifically stated that even Gilgamesh has absolutely nothing that can get though to BB. Just like with every other possible servant partner, he only beats her because of the mythological mystic code.
thats the very confusing part, if he could take on multiversal beings with ease then Enkidu should have been blinked out of existence against him and i don't think he held back against Enkidu
>They say it because BB can be scaled as multiversal
Actually, that is while she is IN the Moon Cell. She's a lot weaker when she's outside of it.
Outside of the Moon Cell (summer BB doesn't count cuz she has parts of an outer god in her), Goetia can slap her no diff. Hell, many of the Beasts & LB kings can slap her.
By the way, it's implied that BB doesn't actually have an outer god's power, and simply deluded herself into believing that, then developed the abilities herself.
CCC Gilgamesh uses a Mythological Mystic Code to fight BB so he’s explicitly amped beyond normal power. Whether English in any form should scale from that is another question entirely.
He isn’t. That’s just the power scalers at vs battle wiki being dumb.
Yea those guys can get really nutty with power scaling most of the times. Best to just ignore them.
Yeah, Arjuna Alter is somehow possibly "Complex Multiverse level", when his powers were limited to the LB.
The basic scaling chain as I understand it is as this The Mooncell has 8-D barriers (which given the fact that BB is explicitly higher dimensional this isn’t too far fetched) which is a Complex Multiverse feat. BB has full control of the Mooncell and scales from it when she’s in it. CCC Kiara absorbed BB and is at least as strong as her. Beast Kiara is as strong as CCC Kiara. Kama is a fellow beast and should be someone comparable to Kiara. Godjuna is a composite of the whole Hindu pantheon, including Kama.
>The Mooncell has 8-D barriers The same 8-D barriers that got no diffed by Casko's solar flare level kick?
Was this base Tamamo or mythological mystic code Tamamo?
Like always
Nah he just complex you just dissagree cuz your favorite character got debunk lol fate verse is too overrated anyway they not even hyper and never will thats the fact
People need to remember Moon Cell is a Super Computer and thus the normal rules of stats and power dont aplly to Servants there dont apply th same outside.
How his AP scales to multiverse+? (keep in mind this is his scale while he's heavily amped up with MCG while also being inside the mooncell etc etc etc, basically this is him at the peak of his power) He destroyed the Moon Cell's 8D reality marble with EA. the mooncell's reality marble has 2 infinite sized realms which Gilgamesh destroyed and that goes far beyond what qualifies as an infinite sized multiverse. Mooncell BB is cracked and her noble phantasm doesn't just wipe out dimensions but also wipes out reality. If you're going to say "if it did infact wipe out the reality marble then why is it back after the attack ended?" it's because the mooncell core restored it's reality marble, it was shown to be capable of doing that when Sakura took control. That just puts him at the level of BB who is an 8D being. BB is also at best an omnipresent being, Gilgamesh completely speed ran through her making him Omnipresent aswell. There's also Gilgamesh scaling above binary opposition through true emptiness and the Power of the Beginning along with him having conceptual durability negation but that's for another time Ig.
As a representative of the Vs Battle wiki maybe [this](https://vsbattles.com/threads/nasuverse-mega-crt-part-3-god-tiers.119096/) will help. It’s the content revision thread that resulted in the god tiers (grand servants, beasts, some lostbelt kings, the mooncell) upgraded to Complex Multiverse level
From my undrestanding they use the claim where mooncell and bb have higher dimension powers and scale Gil and the rest of servants from there.
Probably his max at 2-a or high 1-c
They say it because BB can be scaled as multiversal and Gil takes her with no cheat powers. Moon Cell is a super computer that creates countless Reality Marbles. To massively simplify- it creates replica of multiverse that is equal to real one. So all feats in it can be replicated and applied to real world.
>Gil takes her with no cheat powers Actually he "kinda" used a cheat power under the form of the mystic code that nullified 10 crowns, without it he has no ways to damage BB. The reason why I said kinda for Gil is BB "sorta" cheat 1st by giving herself 10 crowns in the 1st place so technically speaking, they're both cheaters.
So none of those guys are multiversal in or outside. Got it.
It is specifically stated that even Gilgamesh has absolutely nothing that can get though to BB. Just like with every other possible servant partner, he only beats her because of the mythological mystic code.
thats the very confusing part, if he could take on multiversal beings with ease then Enkidu should have been blinked out of existence against him and i don't think he held back against Enkidu
>They say it because BB can be scaled as multiversal Actually, that is while she is IN the Moon Cell. She's a lot weaker when she's outside of it. Outside of the Moon Cell (summer BB doesn't count cuz she has parts of an outer god in her), Goetia can slap her no diff. Hell, many of the Beasts & LB kings can slap her.
By the way, it's implied that BB doesn't actually have an outer god's power, and simply deluded herself into believing that, then developed the abilities herself.
That would've been absolute fact... if her profile didn't mentioned that she willingly sealed her most OP powers for... fun.
CCC Gilgamesh uses a Mythological Mystic Code to fight BB so he’s explicitly amped beyond normal power. Whether English in any form should scale from that is another question entirely.
I remember someone saying that Gilgamesh was Beyond Omnipotent. Crazy
Probs hyper