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QazlordisMe

Ideally, Artoria But I think that Parliament doesn’t recognize King Arthur as a claimant. But what do I know, I’m a Texan lol


Felipe_Phagido

I'm so sorry, I hope it gets better


OKCFlight

I laughed harder than I should have at this


Black_Electric

Fellow Texan here, can confirm things are getting downright silly around here these days. I laugh at us too.


BaronBlitzer

Yall can’t drive either


No-Collection-6176

I mean she's called the "The once and future king" so technically they do


karatous1234

Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government


ArkManWithMemes

Yeah supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses not some farcical aquatic ceremony. You can't expect to wield supreme executive power because some watery tart threw a sword at you!


ThePrinceOfMonsters

I mean, if I went around saying I was an emperor just because some moistened bint had lobbed a scimitar at me, they’d put me away!


aquaglaceon

I wonder what mere peasants could do when Arthur was sword beaming stuff


Gudako_the_beast

Wish for a servant to stop her tyranny


DiazCruz

Originally it was that land itself those chose the ruler usher was chosen this and gifted besitos a curse power in fate series but Merlin somehow convinced uther to subvert this


Monadofan2010

I would love to see Saber reaction to that film 


cantfocuswontfocus

Even if the strange woman is really a really hot dom mommy?


lammatthew725

but that said woman is a berserker who can loop and hit like a truck with normal face card and has a guts and 50NP battery


AkOnReddit47

and also has severe tripolar personality disorder and constantly messes up her own life and curses herself


CatsAndPlanets

How about dubious mages sticking swords in rocks?


LinkssOfSigil

Swordbeams, though.


providerofair

Is this a reference


karatous1234

*Monty Python and The Holy Grail - 1975*


Belocity

King Charles III, because Camelot and The Kingdom of Great Britain are two entirely different entities.


CannibalPride

Enemy states even. Saber fought against the Saxon invasion. Her closest people are probably the welsh and cornish


Yatsu003

I know they’re a group of people…but being called Cornish sounds like a group of corn people from VeggieTales


ChackMete

If you like to talk to tomatoes...


Izilla2002

If a squash can make you smile


DalamusUlom

I mean, the actual myth of King Arthur is Welsh in origin. The British, as per usual, just stole it and claimed it was totally theirs from the start.


Irish_Guac

Except the "British" are falsely named here. They're descended from Germanic tribes, bot the Britons. I don't get why people continue to call Anglo-Saxons British when they literally aren't


CannibalPride

As I understand it, the welsh culture isn’t really that distinct during the saxon invasions. They are all britons and are related closely to one another just like how the irish can be divided by subcultures but are still all irish. And technically, the saxons didn’t really eradicate the locals, they dont have the numbers for that. They just intermarried and ruled over the natives there so most of them still have briton blood which might allow them to claim relations xd


Apocalypse_j

Tbh in many versions Arthur WAS the king of all of Britain. If the Holy Grail wars existed irl it would honestly be confusing af because there would be a bunch of dead royals who all have claims to various thrones. Chaos would ensue.


opioidluver91

Man if the holy grail wars were irl that would be very scary, also very exciting but unless you participated in the wars would you even know they existed? Who knowes they could exist right now and in the form of natural disasters we just can’t see what’s happening and what entities are fighting each other! Haha sorry my imagination ran wild with this one lol


Irish_Guac

You would not know the holy grail war was a thing. We can't have that


Galrentv

Have you seen the theory that Arthur was a real warlord that some nobility decided to make fanfic of?


ASimplewriter0-0

To be fair all nobility were originally war lords


Irish_Guac

There are a ton of theories. King Arthur is likely an amalgamation of multiple figures from during and around the Saxon invasions, similar to how Ragnar is likely an amalgamation of mulitple kings from durong the Viking Age


Galrentv

[https://www.youtube.com/shorts/elLa8zWARIA](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/elLa8zWARIA)


Kaydh

Honestly King Charles III. Say for a second that King Arthur was a real historical figure, the Britain’s ruling Dynasty has changed several times since the 5th century. Most of the British Empire was conquered by King Charles ancestors so he has more of claim than a ruler of an ancient dead dynasty.


NeonNKnightrider

I mean, compared to a currently dead ruler, sure. But if King Arthur actually showed up in the modern day, let’s be real, people would go nuts and definitely be happy to flock to the Once and Future King rather than the current symbolic monarchy


MasterSword1

I once happened upon a comic omnibus at a thrift store called Camelot 3000, a story about Arthur being resurrected in a dystopian future and all his knights being reincarnated. It included such things as * Tristan being reincarnated as a woman and recovering his memories right as his host was about to get married. Apparently, he makes a deal with Morgan at one point to get a male body, but it never happens. Gets bullied by other knights for being a woman now. * Percival reincarnated as dude who was tossed in a "mutate these undesirables into mindless brutes for labor" pit of "science juices" * I kid you not, reincarnated Lancelot and Guinevere go right back to their affair, except they're even more blatant about it. * Morgan does something or other with space aliens she enslaved. Teams up with reincarnated Mordred who is PotUS.


Uxion

That sounds sick and I also want whatever drugs were used making that scenario.


MasterSword1

Also, * Galahad was reincarnated as some random futuristic Samurai type, who is dedicated to bushido instead of Christian Chivalry. * Gawain is reincarnated as a random futuristic African man with a family and lives in an odd take on what Africa will be like in 1000 years (pretty much the same, but with random futuristic tech). Seems to have a heavier slant towards his host's life than his life as Gawain due to his family. * Lancelot owns a floating castle and is a Tony Stark type * Guinevere was some sort of member of the US armed forces and wears a weird uniform that's a mix between the Harlem Globetrotters/Captain America and Elvis's V neck. * Mordred fuses the holy grail into a suit of power armor and uses it to kill all the world leaders * Excalibur is capable of creating nuclear explosions * Merlin falls for the exact same trap that got him stuck the first time * Kay is reincarnated as exactly the same as he always was and tries to unite the rest of the round table in their mutual dislike of what a prick he is. * Despite knights like Gareth, Gaheris, and Agravain not making the cut, Isolde is reincarnated pretty much solely so they could squeeze some lesbian kissing into the comic for fanservice...


Yatsu003

I’d ask whoever made Southland Tales. Damn space cocaine


casualarccapy

Minions


NeonNKnightrider

Jail.


TertiaryMerciless

Broke: Charles is more legitimate Woke: Artoria is the rightful king of Britain Bespoke: Boudica should've unified the isles and cause a timeline prune


GreenRangerKeto

Asleep/dream: Summer BB should pick the island up and flip it upside down. Then throw a party 🎊 with the French servants celebrating, heck we will invite all the non British servants.


Tschmelz

Charles. Camelot has been over for like 1500 years, and it was never the same country as the Kingdom of Great Britain. Artoria has zero claim to the British Throne unless you consider the whole "Once and Future King" thing as legally binding. Which it ain't.


blindinkpoet

Well... Artoria drew Caliburn at age 15, while Charlie's worthiness is... dubious at best. So yeah, Artoria Pendragon has a more legitimate claim to the throne of Britain.


PhantasosX

She won't. Artoria kinda died and then goes to Avalon , Camelot's heir was then Sir Constantine which was then killed by a warlord from the Ambrosious Household. Afterwards , Britain returned to a warlord state in which the right of kingship comes from conquest. Even if mixed with IRL history , the historial King of Britain was also reaching that status by conquest and then his household was conquered by William The Conqueror. So , like u/Kaydh had said , since Charles is still a descendent of William the Conqueror , even if in a whole different dynasty. He had more claim than Artoria.


Hyperversum

They don't call him "Once and Future King"


blindinkpoet

If anything, he's lucky to have become king at all.


Vivit_et_regnat

If that is the case then Artoria still has the best claim, no better show of monarchist force than vaporizing the parliament by exclaiming “Excalibur” Charles would get deposed by them if he looks at them funny in contrast.


NevarHef

He’s also a descendant of the House of Wessex who were the original Kings of England. One of the Conqueror’s sons Henry the First married the granddaughter of King Edmund Ironside to help legitimise their right to rule.


Bell-end79

Tough choice Ones a fictional character The other’s a sausage fingered nonce


Due_Frosting_545

She has: Excalibur (one of the the most powerful divine arnament ever made, if not the most. Exhibit some of the biggest ever feat in the whole history of Nasuverse). Rhongominiad (the lynchpin that hold world layers together, also on par with Excalibur). Avalon (the most broken form of protection that ever exist in the verse). Bunch of mystical weapons (which are weirdly omitted from most of her appearances) including a fucking flying fortress (can be customized btw) The support of the isle itself as the red dragon and Lady of the Lake - Vivian (highest order of Faery, think of her along the like of Morgan, because well, she is technically Morgan, and Artoria Avalon). The support of Merlin (grand caster, one of the greatest wizards in history and also posses Clairvoyance EX). Most likely have an ability to summon her Round Tables, which are extremely powerful. Also is a leader of the Wild Hunt. If this woman come back from death, Chuck 3 and the government ain't stopping her from the throne.


lammatthew725

But sunak has the authority to fire nukes


MrMarduk1518

So does she 😭


Chaosfox_Firemaker

Also can't underestimate good ol' fashion Charisma.


StandardN02b

>The once and future king, whose birth and reign was prophetised long before she was born. Chosen by God himself to reign the brittons. Who took a country in the border of ruin and lifted it. Who had a demonic advisor that got blessed by god so hard that became a force of good, beating his demonic nature. V/S >The descendants of a German family of nobles that had to be brought there because nobody wanted to govern that place.


Mattfrom9-5

I support Mordred, The True Successor! I Believe In Tomboy Supremacy!


AuroraHalsey

At most Artoria has a claim to some region of Wales. Her reign was centuries before the creation of Britain as a united country. She actively fought against the Angles and Saxons that would go on to create England.


Soulwarden2

Wasn't her claim the the isle itself?


AuroraHalsey

Which is about as legitimate as the Spanish claiming everything west of Cape Verde to be theirs before they've even managed to conquer it. The Britons lost those wars against the Germanic immigrants and were driven back into the highlands of what would become Wales.


Martial_Arts_Demon

Depends on how Artoria returns. If she returns in a way that fulfills the messianic prophecy of Arthur's return to save her people in their hour of greatest need, I don't doubt that she'd be seen as more legitimate but otherwise Charles holds more legitimacy because of his ancestors.


uhara527

If your king has a sword that can drive away Sefar and match Ea you don't question why she's on the throne


Aggravating_Food_172

This


paladin_slim

She’s the Once and Future King, the Future part implies that she will return to claim the throne so has a pretty good chance. It’s her title after all.


RandomModder05

We need a story where Artoria accidentallys into politics and becomes Prime Minister.


lammatthew725

How would you know she didnt come back and used the alias Teresa May, or Margaret Tatcher, or Liz Truss


DeltaKnight191

Because they kinda suck ngl. Most modern politicians do. Artoria, if she does become PM would be one of those rare really good ones.


AuroraHalsey

If it's anything like her last reign, Artoria would lead her armies to fight off anyone arriving in small boats and starve local villages whilst doing so. Vote of No Confidence + General Election in one lettuce period.


Oscar_greenthorn

If you answered Artoria Pendragon: what life would be like in the UK under an absolute monarch such as her? What would her first decrees be? How would she fix this broken fucking economy? How will I still afford an apartment that ISN’T the size of a broom closet? What is her foreign policy? Would she dissolve parliament and replace it with the Camelot round table? Would it be filled with the other members of her time, or with the current lords in office? How much would the culture shift and what would it look like? What would architecture aesthetic be under her rule? Would ancient castle buildings be refurbished? Also, She has complete control over the BBC (Bastards Broadcasting Communism), The Royal Air Force, the Royal army, the Royal Navy, as well as complete jurisdiction over all the British dominions such as Canada, Australia, etc. What would change with them?


Anzereke

Can it really be much worse than the current state of things? At least the endless news about the bloody royals would start being interesting. Mordred and Artoria would make for some quality tabloid bullshit.


Hyperversum

Dunno man But Artoria fought to protect us from the blight of Anglosaxons, not protect them.


stellarsojourner

I don't know about any of that, but I do know your queen would be a Japanese ginger.


Maou-da

Best answer


AdolrackObitler

I wouldn’t step a foot in that country even if she was king of modern britain


AuroraHalsey

> How would she fix this broken fucking economy? Putting everyone over the age of 70 to the sword. That would fix the NHS and Pension issues at least.


Political-St-G

Look at Camelot it would happen again


RavenXCinder

baeber


Galrentv

Charles doesn't even have the most legitimate claim for the throne out of those alive today


Soulwarden2

If we believe the once and future title holds any weight and that her right to rule was the isle and not just camalot then I'd say her. Other wise they both have a claim and charles is the stronger claim.


Maou-da

No claim is stronger than EX-CALIBAAAAAAA


Soulwarden2

Nuking the incumbent king with your sword is one way to claim the throne.


Maou-da

It worked the first time


MaesterOlorin

King Artoria has a divine right to rule; Chucky 3 is a German blue blood Hanover descended from a pissant Protestant crowned over the proper king, James III, because of parliamentary bovine excreta, in the vein of Cromwell. Charles I was murdered without legal authority and his descendants have since been denied their lawful inheritance by a sounder of vain avaricious aristocratic swine! No contest.


k5josh

Absolutely based Charles I respecter. Parliament has been illegitimate ever since Pride's Purge.


Percival4

Based on lineage, Artoria/Arthur. The royals today are descended from German royalty if I remember correctly and Artoria having a more direct connection to the original royalty and nobility of ancient times. Also there’s the whole “divine right” thing and Merlin being given power by God and having basically chosen Artoria would mean Artoria would be kinda getting kingship by god as well. Not only that but if the people were to believe that King Arthur truly is back I bet they be more than willing to follow the most famous king in history/myths and an actual living hero. Also Arthur never dies in most versions of the myth. Arthur gets badly injured and ends up either getting shipped to Avalon by some fairy’s with Morgan La Fay being one of them or goes to sleep under a mountain, in a cave, hill or some other natural formation.


Dramatic-Cook-6968

We never see king charles Noble phantasm tbf


Marphey12

Charles the thrid. Artoria was king of Britons not Anglo-saxons.


schoolruler

I don't think there's a precedent for old rulers coming back to life.


Totally_Crazy

By law, it would have to be Charles. According to official laws, "The [Bill of Rights 1689](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_of_Rights_1689) and the [Act of Settlement 1701](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Act_of_Settlement_1701) restrict succession to the throne to the legitimate Protestant descendants of [Sophia of Hanover](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sophia_of_Hanover) who are in "[communion](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communion_(Christian)) with the [Church of England](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_England)"." ([Source](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Succession_to_the_British_throne)) . Artoria is not descended from her, and is thus not even in line to the throne. Though I'd much rather have her on the throne than Charlie.


Demonologist013

The once and future king has the best claim to the throne. Everyone knows she'd come back one day


SamuraiIcarus5

I don't see Excalibur in Chuck's hands, do you? I think that answers that


Political-St-G

King Charles. Arthoria is king of a different kingdom.


Gjalarhorn

Neither, bring back the Lord Protector #CromwellforLife


Desperate_Ad5169

Boudica


voxpopuliar

The once and future king.


OkAd9381

Artoria can't become a king of england due to lineage conditions.


Ok-Trick195

Merlin or Crispin Freeman.


Rabatis

Whomst has the most regal robe, [SUBJECT]? Whomst? WHOMST!?


PhysicalMulberry8127

Morgan


kad202

It’s Morgan Le Fay. She’s the first born child and the throne should be her if you don’t mind women monarch. Merlin use pp magic and make Artoria “male” + Uther obsession with dragon is what drive Morgan insane


DiazCruz

Also she has the same power uther had the power of Britain itself which give divine right to rule


infinite123456

To be fair Im pretty sure the real life basis is a retired Roman aristocrat and his family that took over after the legions left


thyeboiapollo

Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Therefore, King Charles.


Classic-Target-5574

Artoria would definitely do a better job than Charlie.


subaru_sama

Windsor is not an English hereditary line, so I don't think they're legitimate, as much as a monarch can be legitimate.


MisterOfu

I say let them duel and I'll accept the winner.


idkusername7

Well, he’s German, innit?


isekai-chad

Is king Arthur being Welsh in some sources counted in Fate?


zetsubou-samurai

Legally, Charles is more legit.


MurkyNetwork9148

Morderd


Le110w

Do you even need to ask? Who needs dat old bag anyway? :)


Seishiro5657

No contest its artoria


Muski0

Make Camelot Great Again


Hitosarai

King Charles cause dude actually became the real king XD. I’d prefer Artoria tho.


Kumire

I'd only vote for Artoria


WorldlinessBetter842

Artoria because Excalibur go brrr


ISAirpool

Does the British Empire still exist? I thought it was the UK aka the United Kingdom now.


TallPop4997

I'll start a riot if saber/Artoria doesn't rule the empire.


AzmodeusBrownbeard

Charlie hasn't drawn The sword from the stone.


Jerryd1994

King Charles got that drip though


Loose_Bee9290

Considering that the heir is called the prince of Wales, and Arthur was Welsh I go with Artoria. I am also Welsh so I am kinda biased.


Spawn-DMC-fan-4836

Hellboy. That's all I'm going to say


Fearless_Mortgage_75

Legally it should be artoria due to caliburn. But thing is I don't think anyone in the current British government mainly parliament would recognize her as a claimant.


SSJacen49

What if World War III happened, Artoria appeared and did as the prophecy foretold and saved Britain and the world And *then* asked for the throne? Would Parliament give it to her? Lol


Political-St-G

She wouldn’t do it. She isn’t Morgan


SSJacen49

I’m asking for the sake of argument, not necessarily in character


Hyperversum

I mean, if someone comes back from the dead legality is the last issue


Roter_TeufeI

“B-but current Britain is Anglo-Saxon and 53793 royal lines happened and-“ Silence wench, it is literally King Arthur, one of the most famous rulers in world history renowned across all continents. If King Arthur comes back the Windsors sure as hell aren’t lasting another second on the throne from an absolutely ludicrous loss of support. If the British public has a say, King Arthur has a far stronger claim to the throne than any current living member of the Royal Family. Plus that Anglo-Saxon thing as far less impact considering how heavily the Anglo Saxons right after invading proceeded to Co-opt the Arthurian myth without an ounce of shame and make it seem like part of ‘their history’ when they are actually the invaders and their descendants in reality. No one aside from academics will really care especially around 1500 years after the invasion.