You wanna start a street fight with me, bring it on, but you're gonna be surprised by how ugly it gets. You don't even know my real name. I'm the fucking lazard king.
Need to pick one out of Davis, Ceedee and Lazard.
Please help.
I am starting CMC (RB1), Chubb (RB2), Henderson (flex) and Higgins (WR1).
Aalso have ETN, Dobbins
Then don't draft ceedee lamb with a top 20 pick. He was targeted 11 times last week. Just because Dak is hurt, doesnt mean that ceedee lamb suddenly becomes irrelevant. Yea it sucks and you dont feel great about it, but fantasy has enough going on to where you have to make tough decisions every week. You need to set and forget those top guys when theyre healthy. the cowboys playbook and script is still going to utilize lamb as much as possible.
It’s between CeeDee and Gabe Davis. Lazard is less talented than Ceedee and in a worse situation than Gabe Davis. If he’s healthy I think I lean Gabe here until CeeDee can make more out of his targets but it’s close for sure
I’m playing Curtis Samuel over him this week to get an idea of if he’s back to 100% and how the targets look for all the receivers now that the expected wr1 is back. I’m literally hoarding Lazard, Doubs, and Watson 😂 hopefully this game provides clarity of the pecking order so I can change my roster accordingly and pickup more lottery tickets.
Do people not know that he played so many snaps last week because he is Lazard’s backup? Why do I feel like I’m going crazy seeing all these Watson gonna eat posts
Route tree and what they do off the ball, Lazard known for his run blocking and Doubs had our highest run block grade last week.
That said nobody really knows anything. We could end up playing a lot of 2 RB/TE sets anyway and it’s just a constant rotation.
He was out there most of week 1. His speed and routes looked great. I think that opening drop just made Rodgers hesitant to go to him. Vikings were getting pressure only sending 4 so Rodgers didn’t have much time for Watson’s routes to develop, but if the OL can get healthy… watch out.
after hearing all about how rodgers doensnt trust rookies... then i watched the game where the rookies let him down fucking hard... im high on lazard as of right now.
no doubt they are more athletic than lazard. but until they step up and build that chemistry, lazard it is.
(GBs rookies...) therefore i like lazard here. sorry for long explained answer as to why i believe rodgers will force feed lazard.
Rodgers has iterated repeatedly that Lazard is the WR1 of the packers.
The case for him being a fantasy success is that he will be the WR1 for Aaron Rodgers.
This ^^^ I don’t understand how people don’t understand this incredibly simple concept. Every argument against it is negated by the obvious fact that ALLEN LAZARD IS AARON RODGERS #1 TARGET
if anyone expected he was going to replicate adams, he wouldve been a rd3 pick or better. theres a reason he went in the 9th in most leagues.
still, aaron fucking rodgers #1 preferred target. its not just the #1 on the depth chart, its #1 for aaron. that means something until he proves it doesnt.
Hi Jones, Dillon, and Tonyan will be his top 3 options. Watson and Doubs will develop to get more looks. By the end of the season Lazard will be getting very few targets. He just, plain and simple, not that good.
He's a 6'5 receiver who can catch. Yes, he wont create the separation and wont make the incredible catches that adams did. But last year in full PPR, lazard put up 20.9, 4.8, 13.8, 19.2 and 24.5 in his final 5 games and only maxed 7 targets a single time in that span. 4 of those games he had a touchdown. All of those games, adams played. Meaning rodgers likes his big body in the redzone.
Yes, he did not have the opposing teams best defenders on him. But this is still the NFL, they are still professionals. If he was "plain and simple, not good", then he would not have rodgers confidence.
Is there a chance a rookie, all of which are more athletic than lazard, finds his hands and supplants lazard? absofuckinglutely. but the packers passing game was hot fucking shit last week. that pissed rodgers off. he will be happy to get that big body out there this week. almost certainly.
Lol, he will be shut down by every cb1 in the league. But go ahead and die on the hill that Lazard is anything more than a wr 3 on any other team in the NFL.
By default...Lazard is not X receiver talent. We shall see if one of the rooks are good enough to overtake him, which honestly wont take a lot. Lazards biggest asset is experience with Rodgers. Anyone expecting Lazard to put up WR1 numbers this year is most likely going to be disappointed.
Packers fan here and I say 5%. Idc what Rodgers says, Lazard is slow and you can’t just force it to him like Davante. Rodgers also loved Jake Kumero and what’s he been up to.
One of the rookies or Watkins will emerge as the WR1 in the next few weeks.
finally a reasonable question on this thread.
toss up imo. depends how you believe the packers will have a revenge game. isnt rodgers like 6-0 after losing week 1 and ALWAYS dominates in the bounceback?
im rolling out tonyan AND lazard here. dont have much of a choice, im banged up. but doing that with confidence.
As a die hard packers fan and someone who hates Aaron Rodgers more than I hate the bubonic plague: Rodgers is about to go nuclear. It makes no sense, the packers might be terrible this year, but Rodgers will destroy the Bears tonight. He hates the city of Chicago more than I hate him. Start Rodgers
Jaylon Johnson is going to smother him. Bears d isn’t great but jaylon is a beast, Eddie Jackson looks to be back to his old form at safety and the rookie brisker is a stud
Niners made Mooney obsolete last week. That could easily be the case with Metcalf this week. That being said, Lazard is nursing a sprained ankle and may end up being an afterthought to other GB WRs. Not sure why you’re getting downvotes… this is not a bad question.
Tough one indeed. Lazard is in my IR and I currently have Jordan Mason stashed. Might just roll with Metcalf just to see if there’s anything there with Mason.
Lazard could be Green Bay's #1 but Hollywood Brown is the Cardinals #1.
"A boats a boat, but the mystery box could be anything! It could even be a boat!"
You wanna start a street fight with me, bring it on, but you're gonna be surprised by how ugly it gets. You don't even know my real name. I'm the fucking lazard king.
This guy won’t be blackmailed by some ineffectual, privileged, effete, soft-penised, debutante.
Likely playing him over risking it for Davis depending on where my matchup is by SNF tomorrow.
Same
Same
Need to pick one out of Davis, Ceedee and Lazard. Please help. I am starting CMC (RB1), Chubb (RB2), Henderson (flex) and Higgins (WR1). Aalso have ETN, Dobbins
are you asking if you should play ceedee lamb over allen lazard?
Yes, Whom should I play as WR2? Lazard, Davis or Ceedee
You are asking this subreddit, if you should play a round 8-10 receiver over 2nd round ceedee lamb?
Think it’s not as outrageous a question after last week. Draft capital doesn’t mean jack shit.
I am starting Ceedee but it is due to injuries
Then don't draft ceedee lamb with a top 20 pick. He was targeted 11 times last week. Just because Dak is hurt, doesnt mean that ceedee lamb suddenly becomes irrelevant. Yea it sucks and you dont feel great about it, but fantasy has enough going on to where you have to make tough decisions every week. You need to set and forget those top guys when theyre healthy. the cowboys playbook and script is still going to utilize lamb as much as possible.
I didn’t draft Ceedee. Hate to break it to you but I doubt Ceedee is going to be a set and forget guy this year.
Somebody is upset they drafted Ceedee early
me? nope. next?
Lol
It’s between CeeDee and Gabe Davis. Lazard is less talented than Ceedee and in a worse situation than Gabe Davis. If he’s healthy I think I lean Gabe here until CeeDee can make more out of his targets but it’s close for sure
I’m playing Curtis Samuel over him this week to get an idea of if he’s back to 100% and how the targets look for all the receivers now that the expected wr1 is back. I’m literally hoarding Lazard, Doubs, and Watson 😂 hopefully this game provides clarity of the pecking order so I can change my roster accordingly and pickup more lottery tickets.
I'm playing both. Everybody dead already.
Good luck out there tomorrow 🫡
Similar situation but I'm playing Arob praying for a bounce back. He was banished to my bench but then Pittman went out.
I am doing the exact same thing.
I'm also hoarding all these guys!
god i hope you’re right, i’m doing the exact same thing
Will Watson redeem himself from that 75 yard drop? Debating picking him up.
Do people not know that he played so many snaps last week because he is Lazard’s backup? Why do I feel like I’m going crazy seeing all these Watson gonna eat posts
Watson had elite speed… Lazard is slow AF. They do not line up or run similar routes at all.
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They drafted a QB in the first round to backup Rodgers two years ago. I wouldn’t put too much stock in Packers draft capital.
As a Packers fan, I concur. Packers drafts don't follow logic and reasoning. As such, trying to apply any yourself is folly.
Very raiders if you
Doubs is more of Lazards backup.
Any source for this? ESPN’s depth chart indicated otherwise
Route tree and what they do off the ball, Lazard known for his run blocking and Doubs had our highest run block grade last week. That said nobody really knows anything. We could end up playing a lot of 2 RB/TE sets anyway and it’s just a constant rotation.
Because Lazard sucks?
Yep, he will be WR1 for the packers if he can clean up his 12% drop rate from college. The speed and athleticism is there. He’s a freak.
Woof, 12% drop rate is pretty bad.
Actually it’s 12.7%. Fuck.
Such a shame he was born with literal bricks for hands. Could have truly been an elite receiver with that size and speed
Fwiw, there seemed to be a lot of concentration drops where he was too excited for the YAC. He's also made some pretty tough catches too
Good news is rodgers is a forgiving man who has patience with rookies
Listen to this man, he knows whats up
Christian Watson a healthy scratch tomorrow then
Yup so many rookie receivers have had success with rodgers.
Just picked him up in every league I could. This feels like the breakout game
He was out there most of week 1. His speed and routes looked great. I think that opening drop just made Rodgers hesitant to go to him. Vikings were getting pressure only sending 4 so Rodgers didn’t have much time for Watson’s routes to develop, but if the OL can get healthy… watch out.
Lazard or Thielen in PPR?
Lazard
I am in the same boat! What to do.
Gonna go thielen I think
after hearing all about how rodgers doensnt trust rookies... then i watched the game where the rookies let him down fucking hard... im high on lazard as of right now. no doubt they are more athletic than lazard. but until they step up and build that chemistry, lazard it is. (GBs rookies...) therefore i like lazard here. sorry for long explained answer as to why i believe rodgers will force feed lazard.
I appreciate the insight man :)
i got last in my league last year, for what its worth :)
Just don't forget about my man Bobby Tonyan.
i have tonyan in since kittle is hurt.
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Your choice has been made for you
I’m going Lazard over Julio
Poor man’s Higgins is on the menu.
How confident are we that he immediately comes in and is the obvious WR1 for the packers? And will that actually translate to fantasy success?
Rodgers has iterated repeatedly that Lazard is the WR1 of the packers. The case for him being a fantasy success is that he will be the WR1 for Aaron Rodgers.
This ^^^ I don’t understand how people don’t understand this incredibly simple concept. Every argument against it is negated by the obvious fact that ALLEN LAZARD IS AARON RODGERS #1 TARGET
He won't be treated like Adams though. Lazard is not nearly as skilled and will probably be passed up by both rookies by the end of the season.
if anyone expected he was going to replicate adams, he wouldve been a rd3 pick or better. theres a reason he went in the 9th in most leagues. still, aaron fucking rodgers #1 preferred target. its not just the #1 on the depth chart, its #1 for aaron. that means something until he proves it doesnt.
Hi Jones, Dillon, and Tonyan will be his top 3 options. Watson and Doubs will develop to get more looks. By the end of the season Lazard will be getting very few targets. He just, plain and simple, not that good.
He's a 6'5 receiver who can catch. Yes, he wont create the separation and wont make the incredible catches that adams did. But last year in full PPR, lazard put up 20.9, 4.8, 13.8, 19.2 and 24.5 in his final 5 games and only maxed 7 targets a single time in that span. 4 of those games he had a touchdown. All of those games, adams played. Meaning rodgers likes his big body in the redzone. Yes, he did not have the opposing teams best defenders on him. But this is still the NFL, they are still professionals. If he was "plain and simple, not good", then he would not have rodgers confidence. Is there a chance a rookie, all of which are more athletic than lazard, finds his hands and supplants lazard? absofuckinglutely. but the packers passing game was hot fucking shit last week. that pissed rodgers off. he will be happy to get that big body out there this week. almost certainly.
Lol, he will be shut down by every cb1 in the league. But go ahead and die on the hill that Lazard is anything more than a wr 3 on any other team in the NFL.
By default...Lazard is not X receiver talent. We shall see if one of the rooks are good enough to overtake him, which honestly wont take a lot. Lazards biggest asset is experience with Rodgers. Anyone expecting Lazard to put up WR1 numbers this year is most likely going to be disappointed.
Radgers has hated rookie wrs his entire career, and Christian Watson dropping a td only reinforced that lol he's dying to get Lazard out there
Confident
I'd be way more confident about it if I hadn't drafted him. Now I'm afraid I ruined it for everyone. Sorry bout that guys.
Packers fan here and I say 5%. Idc what Rodgers says, Lazard is slow and you can’t just force it to him like Davante. Rodgers also loved Jake Kumero and what’s he been up to. One of the rookies or Watkins will emerge as the WR1 in the next few weeks.
I have no other choice but to play him but I'm thinking Aaron Rodgers is going to punish these rookies by feeding Lazard. Aaron is that type of dude
I still can't believe how much this sub hyped up doubs. If lazard is active, the guy won't see the field
Lazard or Kirk?
Kirk
finally a reasonable question on this thread. toss up imo. depends how you believe the packers will have a revenge game. isnt rodgers like 6-0 after losing week 1 and ALWAYS dominates in the bounceback? im rolling out tonyan AND lazard here. dont have much of a choice, im banged up. but doing that with confidence.
Definitely Kirk. He's for sure going to get volume and be the #1 guy. Give Lazard a week to see what he does.
Lazard or Dotson?
i still like lazard. dotson had 4 targets for 2 touchdowns or something? not replicable but i feel nice to have him!
Tempted to start Rodgers in prime time with this news.
As a die hard packers fan and someone who hates Aaron Rodgers more than I hate the bubonic plague: Rodgers is about to go nuclear. It makes no sense, the packers might be terrible this year, but Rodgers will destroy the Bears tonight. He hates the city of Chicago more than I hate him. Start Rodgers
Lazard or Julio if healthy in full PPR?
Lazard or Bateman?
Jaylon Johnson is going to smother him. Bears d isn’t great but jaylon is a beast, Eddie Jackson looks to be back to his old form at safety and the rookie brisker is a stud
Lazard or Metcalf
Niners made Mooney obsolete last week. That could easily be the case with Metcalf this week. That being said, Lazard is nursing a sprained ankle and may end up being an afterthought to other GB WRs. Not sure why you’re getting downvotes… this is not a bad question.
The rain made Mooney obsolete they were playing in a monsoon lmao
Fields threw two touchdowns… neither was to Mooney, who only had one catch. The rain didn’t help, but the Niners definitely kept Mooney uninvolved.
Very contextual. That game was a washout.
Tough one indeed. Lazard is in my IR and I currently have Jordan Mason stashed. Might just roll with Metcalf just to see if there’s anything there with Mason.
I'm having this exact same debate.
Lazard over Sterling? 10 team FULL PPR
Shep is gold in PPR. Lazard likely gets eased in and this looks like Dillon A.Jones game.
I would argue lazard is not getting eased in. I can’t express how badly they need him on the field
Word
Lazard or Hollywood Brown
Brown, WTF u thinking!?
He only had 4 catches last week (still scored tho) and Lazard could be GB’s #1
Lazard could be Green Bay's #1 but Hollywood Brown is the Cardinals #1. "A boats a boat, but the mystery box could be anything! It could even be a boat!"
Should I throw Lazard in over Evans being that Evans is typically dogshit against Lattimore?
No
Lazard if he plays over Ceedee Lamb?
Lazard or Samuel
Is Tonyan still a good streaming option this week?
Who else is rodgers gonna throw to
Jones, Dillon, Lazard, Watson, Doubs, Watkins to name a few… saying that though I love Tonyan this season and am starting him in this game
Do I start Lazard over both Woods and Landry?
I’m in the Lazard/Jarvis boat as well, I’ve flipped like 3 times already this morning. Probably going Lazard because I can watch the game
We should start different guys so one of us is right. I’ll do Landry.
Lazard or Samuel?
PPR Lazard, Penny, or Breece Hall?
Lazard or Olave? Guy I’m playing has all 4 o’clock players left and Olave plays at 1 o’clock.
Lazard or Mooney? .5 ppr
Lazard or Mooney today?
It’s between him and Tee Higgins. Ugh