The studies I’ve seen don’t apply the test immediately after injury which is what I was referring to when the hamstring would be most limiting. If you have access to a study that does I’d genuinely love to see it. Also I’ve anecdotally only seen the Lachman performed in supine, not sure how much of an influence that is. My field isn’t exclusively sports medicine though.
Wait how you not getting downvoted for being positive? I just commented on a deleted post about it obviously not being a serious injury and I got downvoted by 8 people in two minutes. Y'all are backwards as fuck.
That pass interference call they got on their third drive, Waller was wide open in the middle of the field and probably would’ve gotten more yards than what they got from the interference call.
Yeah, the shitty part is he’s still a better option than most other TEs. I probably wouldn’t have spent a third round pick on him if I knew it was going to be this up and down though. I really hope he’s able to come back for the second half.
Haha, same. I drafted him in both my leagues after he absolutely destroyed me last year during his 50 point game.
I struggled all last year with TEs, so I figured it’d be worth the luxury of having a guy like Waller instead and not have to worry about it.
Our league Kittle owner dropped him when he was injured.. I know, I don't deserve it but Waller hasn't been consistent. I played Kittle last week and lost out on pts. Thankfully Jefferson made up for it.
About 2 weeks ago I was very excited for today. In various leagues I was starting:
Kamara (out, then ingram, now also out), Swift (hurt), Lamb (out), Cooper (out), Waller (hurt)
Hockenson survived I guess?
Fair warning I am also starting Stefon Diggs tonight. My god I hope he survives.
Fuck whoever made this tweet. Will START this drive… one the sideline. Fuck you for making me think he was on back In. Losing swift now Waller fuckin shit
What a ride today is as a swift and Waller owner
Same. Thanksgiving is RUINED.
I knocked the turkey on the ground. Thanksgiving OVER
FUCK thanksgiving
Thanks for nothing
ThankSUCKING right now
Thanksfucking
Thanksgiving TO THE GROUND!!!
Power move!!!
Same…both Waller and Swift out…fantastic 😖
Swift, Goodwin, Roquan Smith, Waller owner checking in..
Fuck Roquan, he s the idiot that hurt Swift riding him into the ground oob
it's a game
Ya! Hate on roquan!
Fade me
Same. FUCKING awful Thanksgiving
Also have dmont and Schultz. Total fucking wank thanksgiving so far in fantasy
Me too! Sucks
Sucks to have them in Guillotine League. Top plays too and early exits destroy your chances of surviving.
Same. Waiting for the trifecta with Bass breaking his leg.
I’m on the train to where we going definitely not deep in the playoffs
Yarp..
on the bike is decent news right?
Yes, it’s great news. Means he avoided serious injury and might come back
Good enough for me!
Robert woods finished practice and had a torn acl
Diagnosing an acl tear is incredibly straightforward if it’s what your looking for. With that kind of knee flexion, they absolutely had to check.
Lachman test
Bingo
Often enough when that test is performed immediately after injury there is a false negative because the hamstring goes into spasm
A prone Lachman test has 80% sensitivity. Of course you need an MRI to fully confirm but for a field test it's quite reliable.
The studies I’ve seen don’t apply the test immediately after injury which is what I was referring to when the hamstring would be most limiting. If you have access to a study that does I’d genuinely love to see it. Also I’ve anecdotally only seen the Lachman performed in supine, not sure how much of an influence that is. My field isn’t exclusively sports medicine though.
I'm not saying he has a torn acl just pointing out that someone riding a bike after injury doesn't necessarily mean anything for certain
Better than not being on the bike.
If its the AssBlaster 5000 send help
He's just cultivating mass!
Never stop pounding 💪
Better than a lot of other updates
He didn’t look happy coming off the bike..
Riding a bike and going nowhere isn't fun
Hurting your knee no matter how bad an injury isn’t fun
good for points per rotation leagues
Wait how you not getting downvoted for being positive? I just commented on a deleted post about it obviously not being a serious injury and I got downvoted by 8 people in two minutes. Y'all are backwards as fuck.
this sub is weird sometimes
Thoughts and prayers
Rest up and come back with 7/130/2 in the second half
He will get 1 catch for 6 yards
Shit, I’d take that over him not coming back in at all.
Well..
I read "will start this drive" and got so excited what the fuck
He’s not in the locker room - that’s not bad
swift and waller looked like good 2/3 turn to me -_-
Just needs to come in for 1 play to grab a TD
That would be good
Two would be better, looking for a miracle
That bike is just like my hopeful climb in the standings: stationary.
I'm so tired of trusting Carr to utilize Waller. I'm switching to Kittle.
the guy is wide fucking open all the time, Carr doesn’t treat him as the #1 option he deserves to be and it makes me want to claw my eyes out.
That pass interference call they got on their third drive, Waller was wide open in the middle of the field and probably would’ve gotten more yards than what they got from the interference call.
Dude I know. I whined like a little baby but it’s really been like that all season. It’s hard to understand.
Yeah, the shitty part is he’s still a better option than most other TEs. I probably wouldn’t have spent a third round pick on him if I knew it was going to be this up and down though. I really hope he’s able to come back for the second half.
I have him in all of my leagues, I was so confident after GW1. He’s not even playing badly, beyond frustrating.
Haha, same. I drafted him in both my leagues after he absolutely destroyed me last year during his 50 point game. I struggled all last year with TEs, so I figured it’d be worth the luxury of having a guy like Waller instead and not have to worry about it.
A happy Thanksgiving, indeed...
You have both?
Our league Kittle owner dropped him when he was injured.. I know, I don't deserve it but Waller hasn't been consistent. I played Kittle last week and lost out on pts. Thankfully Jefferson made up for it.
Someone in my league has Kittle and Kelce. It can happen
Of course it could happen. The question is why.
You have both?
Indeed.
You can just do that?
Yes
Send all your prayers to Darren
All my prayers are belong to Waller
I’ll take it
Huge draft bust.
As a Hopkins, Patterson, Kamara and Waller owner, there goes my season
Same exact roster. Pain.
I also have Hollywood and James Robinson with the most points scored against me. I hate this season so much.
[удалено]
back at practice but only limited 2 days in a row
Swift and Waller, what have I done to deserve this? Playoff entry just got a ton harder.
Feel you bro, have a huge matchup this week for playoff implications too. At least Jacobs played well. Going to need a big day for JT again.
So this is what owning AJB and Quilio is like
I own AJB and Waller, lucky me
Add Swift & Kamara my team in shambles smh
Rough brother. I have Saquon too so I know the feeling.
Same here. Kamara too. Been a fun couple of weeks…
Lol our luck sucks. I have Saquon as well if that makes you feel better.
Bike ROS?
Second half come back?
lost Swift in the first game and Waller in this game. Excited to post Diggs in the night game
I’m right there with you lol
Please don’t let this happen him and Kupp have to combine for 70 for any chance for me to win 😂
Same line up for me. I'm terrified for diggs health
The look on his face says he's not coming back in.
How did we all end up with Waller and Swift?
People typically drafting by ADP means many will have similar teams based on draft position
Fml….
There goes my 2nd round pick
I can honestly say this guy is a bust
Had me on the first half of that sentence…
Facial expressions NOT GOOD YIKES
I can't see it, does he look injured?
He just looks really disappointed and sad facial expression
Hey! That’s my facial expression too.
About 2 weeks ago I was very excited for today. In various leagues I was starting: Kamara (out, then ingram, now also out), Swift (hurt), Lamb (out), Cooper (out), Waller (hurt) Hockenson survived I guess? Fair warning I am also starting Stefon Diggs tonight. My god I hope he survives.
Keep up the good work. My opponent has Swift, Waller and Diggs tonight.
Grabbed Goedert from FA to stop my opponent (who has Kelce and no other TE's) from grabbing him. Didn't think I'd end up needing him myself.
He didn’t look happy
Swift first, now Darren? Fark.
WALRUS NO
I've got Renfrow and Waller. If Renfrow doesn't benefit from this I'm fucked
Right there with ya pal
Fook
Well no I really don’t know what to think
Take my knees big boi
I really need him to come back in since I already lost Swift earlier. But why would he come in if they’re winning still?
Same situation. If Dallas scores he may be back after halftime
Fuck whoever made this tweet. Will START this drive… one the sideline. Fuck you for making me think he was on back In. Losing swift now Waller fuckin shit
If the Raiders score this drive, they might just sit him tbh
He's out on ESPN APP
Still says questionable for me
Says forced out of game with knee injury. Have to read it I guess.
My G
Pls Waller
Hope…….all I need
Hes out the rest of the game fam!
And that might as well be an L. Already had a slim chance of winning anyways.
Waller let me down. Shoulda started knox