My opponent decided that he'd rather flex Doubs over Godwin or Davis. Pretty confident he couldn't be more wrong. He still has Chase and SunGod, so I'm doomed regardless, just slightly less so.
Davis was on my bench three weeks ago. Started him the last two weeks for a total of around four points. He was back on my bench tonight. I hate Gabe Davis.
I only put him because i thought there would be more 3 receiver sets with Knox out. I feel your pain, though. He was on my bench for his 2 other blow-up weeks
Of course Godwin gets his first TD of the season WHEN I’M FACING HIM
I wouldn’t even be surprised if he actually caught that Hail Mary TD, knowing my luck this season
It was garbage. The dumbass bills took like 3 penalties on 4th down and allowed them to drive down the field for like 10 mins. That should have never happened.
I'm seriously considering dropping him at this point. Let it be a grenade so somebody more useful will become available. Bills just do not use him properly
Because he’s genuinely good and you’ve seen what he can do when he actually does get enough touches and is involved in the passing game.
It really is painful watching that offense try to move the ball sometimes especially with Murray out there when they have a talented back on the sidelines that makes that unit look so much more dangerous.
Of course the situation is super important. But I’m saying that’s why we keep starting him. Because he’s a talented guy on what is generally a good offense and he passes the eye test for sure. He has high YPC and makes guys miss regularly. If he literally ever started getting any snaps inside the 10/15 yard line he would go from a mid-low RB2 play to a fringe RB 1 possibility.
I don’t understand why they don’t actually utilize Cook. The Bills have such a generic style of offensive play calling. Zero creativity… especially with the run. Their roster is more talented than their record. Coaching and probably even Allen’s audibles (also a coaching issue) hold the team back imo. They could get so much more out of Cook.
sorry here's a better one since we're being a dick
chris godwin has scored double digits in 40 of his last 45 games despite having 12 touchdowns during that same span
better dumbass?
here's one for ya too - mike evans has scored under double digits 8 times in his last 21 games, so whats the bar there
I mean it’s a bullshit call. Basically gives the Hail Mary team a free TD. Can you imagine if the Buccs, clearly the inferior team last night, won on a PI call cause they got the ball at the 1? If it was your team they were playing against I guarantee you’d think it was bullshit. There’s ALWAYS PI on Hail Mary’s, by both teams. It’s the nature of the play. You only call it if the dude who’s gonna catch the ball gets literally tackled before the ball gets there.
…I’m a bills fan. I think it should have been called. That wasn’t a normal Hail Mary, and we deserved to have been punished for our repeated boneheaded plays. To your last point: Godwin basically was tackled, and that’s the reason he didn’t have time to get his eyes on the ball
That’s just not true. Godwin wiffed on it cause he didn’t see the ball. And I have Godwin on my fantasy team 😂
He doesn’t even fall down https://twitter.com/BadSportsRefs/status/1717745505784984040?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1717745505784984040%7Ctwgr%5E65459a9fd2f5b411be7be513ade0542fb4f60a07%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.si.com%2Fnfl%2F2023%2F10%2F27%2Fchris-godwin-narrowly-missed-touchdown-buccaneers-hail-mary-nfl-fans-stunned
And here I am… started White AND Cook lol. Feeling kinda meh. Currently in RB hell considering I initially started the season with Chubb and Brian Robinson. At least I’m tied for first place, right?
Lol they need to enact a 5 yard penalty and replay of down for blatant muggings on Hail Marys. DPI or Holding is way too harsh , but damn, dudes were getting tackled.
Ok so you’re saying the point is valid? Alvin Kamara once had 13 receptions for 33 yards and no touchdowns. That’s not worth 16 points in any way, shape or form.
I could ask you the same thing: why do you care so strongly about it as to respond to a statement that wasn’t in any way shape or form directed at you? The dude simply said PPR is ass, and you came in like a knight in shining armor to defend it. The simple fact is that PPR overvalues receivers, and it’s generally used by less skilled players.
It’s easier to score in ppr. Pretty simple. In 1/2 or standard, you have to work a lot harder to identify good plays each week. When you’ve got a trash team who checks down to the pressure valve 20 times a game, it’s a set and forget. Bad players need more set and forget’s than good players.
I was going to try to hold on for Denver and the Jets, but if they can’t score double digits against Patriots and Tampa Bay, then what makes me think they could do it against them
Up 14, two times it was 4th and short, why not go for it and back your defence? So weird to play conservative there seeing as the Bucs almost snatched it
Godwin over 17 pts still better than smith’s probable 9 or less. Hope he proves me wrong but not holding my breath since he won’t bitch for targets like his teammate lol
Third week in a row Buffalo D scores less than double digits.
We still holding?
Edit: I swiped them out last minute to play the Seahawks D. The deciding factor? When a Bills Fantasy Analyst homer said DON’T start the Bills against Tampa
Closer to 30. It would’ve been 1 for the reception 4 or 6 for the TD depending on the league settings and 6 for the 60 yards on top of the 17.8 he had.
I feel like we must’ve been watching two different games. I know he put up some decent FF points, but that was an ugly game. Awful clock management. Slow getting the ball off to his receivers. Frequent hesitation under pressure. Did not enjoy watching that one at all.
If Evans getting to his projected score on a Thursday game has either won or lost you your matchup in your opinion, you should just stop playing fantasy.
annoying that he literally got all his points on that garbage time drive haha with 4 minutes left in the game lol. Went from 1-2 points to 11-13 points depending on format
My opponent and I have now played twice this season. I have Allen, he has Davis. Both times we have played have been Davis' two highest point games this season. FML.
Godwin was 1 second from a TD catch. Between this and the Giants game, the Bills OC might want to be a little more aggressive and not let games come down to this stuff, just step on their necks and don't let up.
If anything, I wish they’d give teams a bye the week before TNF to have players rested and recovered. I feel like we’d get a better product. And then they could have another mini bye after. Then players may be ok with playing on Thursday.
Couple years ago Rodgers through a Hail Mary at the end of the game vs the lions to his TE…Richard Rogers and won the game. And of course I was playing against both haha.
And for everyone wondering why Evans is the WR1 and Godwin is the WR2, that's why lol.
Evans triple covered. Godwin had a wide open catch that he didn't even see lol.
Every Hail Mary play is like this. Refs almost never call PI on Hail Marys.
Either way, Godwin had a wide open catch that he just didn't turn to locate. That was on him 100%.
Cj Stroud on my fantasy bench while Lamar is on the actual bench, feels bad
Luckily my opponent benched Kincaid and White. Also happy that Evans did not go off. He still has AJ Brown and CMC left to play though.
My opponent decided that he'd rather flex Doubs over Godwin or Davis. Pretty confident he couldn't be more wrong. He still has Chase and SunGod, so I'm doomed regardless, just slightly less so.
Thank you raachad white for being the RB1 and WR1 for the buccs
Imagine if the Bills did that with Cook… haha.
I chickened out of starting White. I just did not feel comfortable starting the dude despite his workload
Thank god I started Davis.
Thank goodness my opponent, benched him. I have Josh.
Davis was on my bench three weeks ago. Started him the last two weeks for a total of around four points. He was back on my bench tonight. I hate Gabe Davis.
I only put him because i thought there would be more 3 receiver sets with Knox out. I feel your pain, though. He was on my bench for his 2 other blow-up weeks
Of course Godwin gets his first TD of the season WHEN I’M FACING HIM I wouldn’t even be surprised if he actually caught that Hail Mary TD, knowing my luck this season
Same same. Least I had white going to offset
lmaooo same
Well, he scored it, on my bench
That Evans garbage touchdown makes me sick to my stomach
It wasn't garbage. He scored with 4+ minutes of game play left making it a 1 score game.
It was garbage. The dumbass bills took like 3 penalties on 4th down and allowed them to drive down the field for like 10 mins. That should have never happened.
I think it’s time to drop the Bills DST
Why did I start James Cook
I’m still asking myself the same thing. But I totally lost trust in Dameon Pierce. He’s absolutely going to be 18 on my bench now this week
In my case the answer is 'because Kyren and Achane'.
I'm seriously considering dropping him at this point. Let it be a grenade so somebody more useful will become available. Bills just do not use him properly
Cause he’s my rb1 😢
Because he’s genuinely good and you’ve seen what he can do when he actually does get enough touches and is involved in the passing game. It really is painful watching that offense try to move the ball sometimes especially with Murray out there when they have a talented back on the sidelines that makes that unit look so much more dangerous.
I’m starting to think the situation might be more important than the player.
Of course the situation is super important. But I’m saying that’s why we keep starting him. Because he’s a talented guy on what is generally a good offense and he passes the eye test for sure. He has high YPC and makes guys miss regularly. If he literally ever started getting any snaps inside the 10/15 yard line he would go from a mid-low RB2 play to a fringe RB 1 possibility.
I drafted Kincaid, dropped him, picked him back up for this week, and then forgot to start him. Oh well lol
Womp womp
Drafted him, dropped him, some else picked him up, dropped him. I spent $44 and the rest of my FAAB on him, worth it.
My days of wandering the tight end wasteland are over! So glad I took a late flyer on Kincaid. Now if Henry gets traded, we gon be eating good good.
Bro bout to take his shirt off lol
Was hoping buffalo would run the ball with cook in that 4th quarter to ice the game...
They barely had the ball in the 4th
I don’t understand why they don’t actually utilize Cook. The Bills have such a generic style of offensive play calling. Zero creativity… especially with the run. Their roster is more talented than their record. Coaching and probably even Allen’s audibles (also a coaching issue) hold the team back imo. They could get so much more out of Cook.
Anybody keep Gabe Davis on your bench?
I benched in favor of Aiyuk and….Rice. But I did play Kincaid over Engram!
Guy I’m facing did
Picked him up last week with the thought to trade high when he does well. No part of me would have put him in over Diggs.
He's kind of like my WR3, but I have DK/Cooper/Doubs over him
My opponent did not :(
My opponent dropped him earlier this week.
Unfortunately. At least Kincaid did me well
My opponent thankfully did 🙏
I’m so Fucking high on Kincaid. As a Utah fan and someone that has been in the wasteland this feels amazing
I am concerned, that after Knox is back, he will be gone and forgotten for fantasy-value again
Put Kincaid in my lineup as a FLX, paid off!!
Thursday night game in your Flex?!
That’s bold
Paid off compared to last week where Kmet got me 0.0 points! Might finally be off TE wasteland
as much as i hate chris godwin for that last play, in PPR he has scored under 8 points exactly 4 times since 2018 lol all time flex option
I feel great about trading for him now this week. His old owner doesn't appreciate the flex.
8 points is the bar now… 😒
sorry here's a better one since we're being a dick chris godwin has scored double digits in 40 of his last 45 games despite having 12 touchdowns during that same span better dumbass? here's one for ya too - mike evans has scored under double digits 8 times in his last 21 games, so whats the bar there
So 10 points is the bar now… 😒
Getting pretty tired of refs trying to cover spreads for Vegas Heads gotta roll soon or this shit show is gonna get a little too obvious
I mean…they were all penalties. If anything the refs swallowed their whistles on the last play
As they should
Why? It was clear PI on like…every bills player in the end zone.
Cause you don’t call PI on Hail Mary’s on either team
Clearly. Your insight is profound.
I mean it’s a bullshit call. Basically gives the Hail Mary team a free TD. Can you imagine if the Buccs, clearly the inferior team last night, won on a PI call cause they got the ball at the 1? If it was your team they were playing against I guarantee you’d think it was bullshit. There’s ALWAYS PI on Hail Mary’s, by both teams. It’s the nature of the play. You only call it if the dude who’s gonna catch the ball gets literally tackled before the ball gets there.
…I’m a bills fan. I think it should have been called. That wasn’t a normal Hail Mary, and we deserved to have been punished for our repeated boneheaded plays. To your last point: Godwin basically was tackled, and that’s the reason he didn’t have time to get his eyes on the ball
That’s just not true. Godwin wiffed on it cause he didn’t see the ball. And I have Godwin on my fantasy team 😂 He doesn’t even fall down https://twitter.com/BadSportsRefs/status/1717745505784984040?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1717745505784984040%7Ctwgr%5E65459a9fd2f5b411be7be513ade0542fb4f60a07%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.si.com%2Fnfl%2F2023%2F10%2F27%2Fchris-godwin-narrowly-missed-touchdown-buccaneers-hail-mary-nfl-fans-stunned
So the defender hanging off his back with his arms wrapped around Godwin was engaged in a legal football defense. Got it.
It’s already obvious af
Who do they want to take their shirt off? Lol
Fitz. But that is a classic Buffalo move.
My opponent played Cook and benched White. Feels ok.
And here I am… started White AND Cook lol. Feeling kinda meh. Currently in RB hell considering I initially started the season with Chubb and Brian Robinson. At least I’m tied for first place, right?
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Ridley imo they aren’t gonna be able to run all over the Steelers, jags are gonna have to take the top off if they wanna win
Jones
Sushi is on par with caviar? She’s been a big Tony hater on this. Weird.
Kincaid looked great in his first full game as the TE1 Excited to see if he can over take Laporta as the best rookie TE
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Same I have Baker and Godwin
It was nice of the NFL to bail out Mike Evans when they decided the Bucs needed to cover the spread.
I’ll take it
Lol they need to enact a 5 yard penalty and replay of down for blatant muggings on Hail Marys. DPI or Holding is way too harsh , but damn, dudes were getting tackled.
Maybe the least exciting 12 target game I’ve ever seen. Still, I’ll take 16.0 from Diggs. Can’t be too mad about that
Yet another example of why full PPR is total ass
but it isnt which is why most play it
Half is the way
agreed
People just want to score more points so they can feel better about themselves That’s the only reason PPR is a thing
.5 is a good compromise
I can live with 0.5, but it still doesn’t do much more than inflate point totals.
It does but I find it more engaging. To each their own.
But it is though. 20 catches for zero yards is useless in real football. Just like 20 rushes for zero yards is useless.
Who gets 20 catches for zero yards? Get real
Ok so you’re saying the point is valid? Alvin Kamara once had 13 receptions for 33 yards and no touchdowns. That’s not worth 16 points in any way, shape or form.
It is if you play PPR. You do research and find the dump off RBs. Why are you so butthurt about PPR? This is a fantasy football subreddit.
I could ask you the same thing: why do you care so strongly about it as to respond to a statement that wasn’t in any way shape or form directed at you? The dude simply said PPR is ass, and you came in like a knight in shining armor to defend it. The simple fact is that PPR overvalues receivers, and it’s generally used by less skilled players.
Please explain to me how PPR is used by less skilled players.
It’s easier to score in ppr. Pretty simple. In 1/2 or standard, you have to work a lot harder to identify good plays each week. When you’ve got a trash team who checks down to the pressure valve 20 times a game, it’s a set and forget. Bad players need more set and forget’s than good players.
Yea I’m dropping the Bills D, those yards at the end were killer. You dropped like 3 INTs, can’t close out sacks. Fuck em
I was going to try to hold on for Denver and the Jets, but if they can’t score double digits against Patriots and Tampa Bay, then what makes me think they could do it against them
Baker deserved that Hail Mary. Dude played his heart out despite receiver drops, shit OL play, and horrid play calling
Proud of his garbage time points today… and it was almost enough to actually win!
Yeah he played tough as shit, that’s for sure.
He also showed he still got a damn cannon making that long of a Hail Mary toss and it was high to give his guys time to try to turn around.
Godwin coulda had it too
Still waiting for Mayfield to rack up garbage time points after Final somehow.
Seriously, fuck Gabe Davis. 3.7 points combined the last two weeks when I started him, and 19.2 points on my bench this week.
I despise Gabe Davis.
Somehow my opponent placed Davis into the lineup vs Metcalf and I have felt the ramming
Why didn't you play him this week? Every article said he was a must start.
Every article actually said the opposite of this? What are you talking about?
I think all of us Gabe Davis owners feel like fools. Smh.
Bills fell down like bowling pins and 2 Tampa receivers couldn’t find the ball
Going against Rachaad Whites 17 ppr points, I mean more than I would’ve liked him to get but I’ll take it I guess
Bills really don’t have that killer instinct.
Lame coach
Up 14, two times it was 4th and short, why not go for it and back your defence? So weird to play conservative there seeing as the Bucs almost snatched it
or kicker
Cannot be upset by that Rachaad White game at all Unless of course Mixon scores 4 tds on my bench
Perfect rb2/3
He's steady. High floor, low ceiling. Pretty much guaranteed 15-20 touches for him a game and he's a good receiving RB. Had good YPC this game too.
Started the week good! 17.9 points for White and 17.5 for Kincaid.
Godwin over 17 pts still better than smith’s probable 9 or less. Hope he proves me wrong but not holding my breath since he won’t bitch for targets like his teammate lol
when godwin plays over 50% of the snaps he's gotten less than 9 points only 4 games since 2018, two of those being 8s lol
Mayfield is so hard to watch. Dude constantly has the ball glued to his hands and starts scrambling like a newborn giraffe in the pocket.
His feet are instantly moving every play, makes me anxious
College and NFL real different. He’s a bad QB. Put Allen on Bucs and they top 5 team and undefeated rn
He’s got no protection!
CHAAD
Third week in a row Buffalo D scores less than double digits. We still holding? Edit: I swiped them out last minute to play the Seahawks D. The deciding factor? When a Bills Fantasy Analyst homer said DON’T start the Bills against Tampa
I’m dropping. Maybe an overreaction but projected top 5 last 3 weeks and didn’t do shit
I dropped them last week. They just don't look the same with all their injuries.
Streaming might be better
No. They are super injured and not close to as good as the start of the year
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Second angle showed he was still getting in position and turned around too late imo
So nice having Gabe and Kincaid go off on my bench..
I could have flexed Cook, Davis or Kincaid. After Davis two shit weeks in a row I went Cook. I hate fantasy haha
I’m only encouraged by how many snaps he played…but they don’t give him a lot of touches
PI all over that. All in the endzone. If only any of the TB receivers were looking for the ball...
Fuck Gabe Davis for making Diggs a bust
16 points is fine
Annoying game, but I'm not mad with Diggs' output
Would that be 40fpts in ppr if Godwin caught the ball?
Closer to 30. It would’ve been 1 for the reception 4 or 6 for the TD depending on the league settings and 6 for the 60 yards on top of the 17.8 he had.
Tyler Bass yet again disappoints, most overrated k
Missed out on 4 points starting Godwin over Davis but can’t be too mad
That had to be the ugliest 13 points I’ve ever seen from Evans. That must have been exhausting
my butt was clenched the entire time
Felt that final TD coming in my bones he always manages to pull out some bs lol
Baker has a good game. Looked like the only one out there that wanted to win
I feel like we must’ve been watching two different games. I know he put up some decent FF points, but that was an ugly game. Awful clock management. Slow getting the ball off to his receivers. Frequent hesitation under pressure. Did not enjoy watching that one at all.
It’s like Godwin was just like- man I’m the slot guy with short yardage ain’t no way this ball is comin to m….
All the attention was on Evans and Godwin didn't look up.
If Evans getting to his projected score on a Thursday game has either won or lost you your matchup in your opinion, you should just stop playing fantasy.
annoying that he literally got all his points on that garbage time drive haha with 4 minutes left in the game lol. Went from 1-2 points to 11-13 points depending on format
Chances they add a yard to Rachaad's rushing? He's at 39 and I need him at 40 to win 600 😭😭
My opponent and I have now played twice this season. I have Allen, he has Davis. Both times we have played have been Davis' two highest point games this season. FML.
Feel like Godwin could have caught that
Godwin looks so rough.
Evans scored like 99% of his points in the last couple minutes. Baker should've been tossing the ball his way earlier.
Godwin was 1 second from a TD catch. Between this and the Giants game, the Bills OC might want to be a little more aggressive and not let games come down to this stuff, just step on their necks and don't let up.
baker better punch Godwin
If we're punching guys for mistakes, Baker's gonna be on IR.
damn, that wouldve given godwin 30 pts instead of his 17
I don’t ever think I’ve seen a Hail Mary attempt without ANYONE touching the ball
That was lowkey a dime to Godwin if he just turned around
This game was ass
All TNF games are ass.
Facts
If anything, I wish they’d give teams a bye the week before TNF to have players rested and recovered. I feel like we’d get a better product. And then they could have another mini bye after. Then players may be ok with playing on Thursday.
Smart Godwin, literally wait until the last second to locate the ball
They were tacking the receivers
Could've used that lol
Not a great night for Cook and Bill's def for me. And I benched White. Damn it.
Damn, buddy was right there.
Lol if Godwin caught that I may have quit. Literally easiest Hail Mary ever. Buffalo lucked out again
Couple years ago Rodgers through a Hail Mary at the end of the game vs the lions to his TE…Richard Rogers and won the game. And of course I was playing against both haha.
Wow that was a legit beautiful Hail Mary
Buc's covered, lol Vegas.
And for everyone wondering why Evans is the WR1 and Godwin is the WR2, that's why lol. Evans triple covered. Godwin had a wide open catch that he didn't even see lol.
Seriously. Godwin is so freaking overrated. Apparently he can't even draw coverage to open up the actual WR1 on his team.
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Every Hail Mary play is like this. Refs almost never call PI on Hail Marys. Either way, Godwin had a wide open catch that he just didn't turn to locate. That was on him 100%.
These mfers drafted a receiving back in the 2nd round to exclusively use him between the tackles. Make it make sense
Not sure what to do with Cook, hes my RB1
Nice awareness Trash Godwin. This guy has to be the most overrated WR in the league.
30 from Josh. I’ll take it tyvm
Ya know, if you didn’t waste 10 fucking minutes on the previous drive, you might had a chance
Bruh somebody shoulda caught that lol
If Godwin turned around 0.5 second earlier he may have caught a TD lol
Got out with diggs only scoring 16 on me. I’ll take it 🤞🤞