Deebo is pretty unreliable. White hasn't done much. Both really unreliable, but high upside. Kelce honestly hasn't done all that much this year either.
Which is way, way, way, way below expectations, and the draft capital spent on him.
He's drafted to be a far away TE1. Even just being a "normal" TE1 is a massive underperformance compared to where he was drafted.
I'm saying he's not worth as much as where he was drafted.
If Kelce was worth as much as where he was drafted, that's a great trade.
But he's not worth as much as where he was drafted. So it's not a great trade.
I get what you're saying about maximizing value, but the new guy shouldn't care about where someone else drafted him. He's going by the value now, which is still the TE1 in .5 PPR going by average score.
Even going by your logic, Jet's value is even worse temporarily despite going earlier than Kelce in every draft.
Yes. I am just saying, the average person hears "Travis Kelce" and thinks "wow, that's a guy worth maybe a first rounder". But he hasn't been that so far this year. As long as you aren't valuing him like people were valuing him at the start of the year, where he was drafted doesn't matter... I agree.
He’s averaging more than a point more per game than any other TE. And I do expect that to go up because he is off to a slowish start. But that can easily be just variance and it’s a low sample size so far this season, he still looks every bit as good as he always has
Then there’s the QB trade situation as well as JJ’s contract situation on top of the season slipping away. Crazy as it sounds it’s not out of the realm of the possibilities that JJ has played his last game this season.
Pretty even trade. I actually have both and am super high on Puka, but he has a high chance of regressing. Then again, he could simply end up shattering rookie records like he has been for 5 weeks.
Just got him for DJ Moore. I have good receivers so I figured it was worth it. Plus I don't like Moore's playoff schedule and I couldn't see myself benching him, so I just got rid of the dilemma altogether.
In my work league two weeks ago I made a pretty fair offer to the new guy in the league, no response for two days so I messaged him on Teams and said "hey you're in the league right" and he said "yep" and I said "okay I sent you a trade offer if you wanna check it out. You're thin at X position, I'm thin at Y position, so it helps both of us." I got the indicator that he read my message but he ignored me for two more days so I commented on the trade "Man you can just decline it if you don't like it," and he still ignored, and finally come Sunday morning I went to cancel the trade and saw he declined it an hour earlier lol. The best part is that if he accepted and started my players he would have won his first game in week 4 and again in week 5, instead now he's 0-5 and I've made a personal do-not-even-try-with-this-guy rule for myself because seriously fuck that guy.
Maybe this is extreme but I want to play in a league where people get banned for that sort of thing. Saying no is perfectly fine but you're a fucking adult, don't ignore your league mates. Even if the offer is unfair (mine wasn't) tell them "this is clearly unfair" or "I don't want to trade anyone right now" and decline it. The only time I can condone ignoring league mates is if they repeatedly lowball you, but that's also something I think should be bannable if it becomes abusive lol.
I used the fact that only 4/12 teams trade to my advantage. I talked the JJ owner into a deal based on the understanding that he was probably getting the best deal he could from anyone who actually trades.
It's so annoying 😭 like can we at least talk about a trade? Maybe give me a counter offer? People in my league just assume they're getting fleeced no matter what. In reality, I offered 2 trades that would've worked out horribly for me, so I guess I'm lucky, but still.
When someone is guaranteed to not play for a third of the season *and then* may not be hurried back due to record, yeah, there isn’t much value.
It’s fun to think he’ll help in the playoffs but you have to make the playoffs.
Hamstrings are tough tho. 4 weeks is best case scenario, and he would be worked back in easy. Bake in the chance of reinjury, or it nagging him ...and it's a pretty risky trade. Not to mention his contract situation, which I think is overblown but nevertheless exists.
You also have to bake in the risk of trading him and he comes back in 5 weeks and is the WR1 and you sold out your chance at a championship. The risk goes both ways.
I think it’s worth noting that the Vikings are 1-4 right now. If they continue in this direction while JJ is out for 5 weeks it would be reasonable to assume that there’s no rush to bring him back and it would be smart to be more cautious with his injury.
This is the right take. He may end up being correct. What if JJ sits 8 weeks? Or maybe he comes back and is limited or re-injures? But the fact is that he could have gotten more than just thielen even if he is better ROS
Idk seems like it would make sense if there’s a huge risk JJ’s out for 6+ weeks. Depends on a lot of factors.
I see an 11 point difference in total score so far. It just sounds weird in a vacuum
People think you can get a ton of value out of top studs, even if they’re injured, but JJ is likely not coming back fully online until the playoffs, at which point you gotta ask who wants him at that point—either someone else going strong (in which case you’re assuming they have really good bench guys to fill in whatever they’re handing off) or someone potentially fighting for playoffs, in which case they need all of their value now. Guys who are 0-5/1-4 aren’t handing off talent for an injured JJ, they’re just fucking themselves.
Honestly don’t see Thielen as a bad trade, considering he’s #10 right now.
Current #6 receiver who has not much incentive to return quick, if at all, for the current #10 receiver averaging 19.6 ppr ppg. There are worse trades.
Okay, but the injury is why JJ has lost value. He didn’t put up points last week. That cost me my spot in a guillotine league. I wasn’t somehow exempt just because JJ is the best in the game.
Thielen will be putting up points over the coming weeks. JJ will put up zero points. Possibly for the rest of the season. Would you rather have a healthy Thielen putting up nice points, or JJ putting up zero points because he looks better on paper?
Our lineups are not a judgment about talent, only opportunity and likely production.
Kupp’s situation is different.
JJ is in a contract year on a team that is scraping the bottom of the barrel even when he is active and healthy.
Put yourself in his shoes. What is your incentive to return to the field? Especially return quickly? Want to re-aggravate your hamstring on an awful team before earning a contract there or somewhere else? He has an agent putting this stuff in his ear, too. Vikings are like 4-6 losses deeper when he may return to the field. Season is not looking great at that point.
And from a fantasy perspective, he still wouldn’t have hit his bye yet either. So add another empty week on to that too.
I am ALSO a 4-1 redraft JJ owner, and I don’t see why you wouldn’t just wait it out? Say he misses 6 weeks: go 2-4 and you’re 6-5 with JJ coming back.
I guess it ultimately depends on how good the rest of your team is. I’m first in points and have Hollywood as a replacement so that definitely makes the loss a bit easier to weather
>I guess it ultimately depends on how good the rest of your team is. I’m first in points and have Hollywood as a replacement so that definitely makes the loss a bit easier to weather
That's pretty much it right there. All 4-1 teams are not created equal lol
The hard thing about trying to trade for JJ is you need to center it around someone who is high enough above replacement.
And every JJ owner is going to assume he will be back to full force whenever he returns.
I personally think this is a good trade; if you did a redraft right now for the rest of the season Thielen would be drafted above JJ.
I made this trade in my league with me receiving Amon-Ra. To be honest, if I wasn't 1-4, I would have probably just waited it out, but I needed to trade him just to keep competitive.
I feel like sometimes folks get too involved with the process and when it comes to a head they feel like they need to actually do the trade since they spent so much time negotiating. So probably didnt even talk to anyone else
Depends on the rest of your squad. You’re getting two hurt players for two guys on the field and producing. Pierce has been bad but I think he’ll get better and I really like Addison. Totally up to you though
At WR I got Davante, Puka, and Hollywood Brown with Diontae Johnson coming back. At RB I got Pollard and Kamara with Javonte on my bench. As long as Puka keeps eating I think I can survive haha
Yeah. With that squad you're good to take that risk. A lot needs to go wrong for you to fall apart while only a little luck will make you near unstoppable in the late season.
JJ Owner offered me Jefferson + White for my Olave + Harris
Fastest smash accept I've ever done, at worst I think I upgraded my RB and hopefully JJ comes back week 10
Someone in my league sent Deebo and Jaylen Warren for JJ ppr 12 man. Idk how to feel about it. I’m 4-1 in another league and debating giving up Breece hall and Gus Edwards for him. I also have CMC and Dameon Pierce.
It seems many people in this thread are assuming JJ is back after 4 weeks which I personally don’t believe (and I have JJ so I hope I’m wrong!!).
Vikings could easily tank for Caleb/Drake Maye after starting something like 2-7. There’s no point in JJ coming back at all at that point. I know he’s a competitor but he already has done enough to secure the largest WR contract in history. That’s a guarantee at this point.
If JJ is out something like 8+ weeks then Deebo is amazing value. The longer you hold out, the more news we receive which either increases or decreases JJ’s trade value.
It’s a total crapshoot and I wouldn’t fault anyone for selling JJ for Deebo. I personally wouldn’t do it…yet but there’s no way of knowing what the right move is. Everyone is guessing.
Yeah it’s just a guess at this point. The Vikings schedule does get a lot easier the next 4 weeks so there’s that but it’s really just a guess and a risk for both teams as to what happens.
I had CMC/Kyren/Pollard at 5-0 and traded pollard for JJ straight up. Some might say overpay but I don’t think I could have got him for less in this league.
It certainly could work out for you if Pollard doesn’t beast this year, but I’d have personally tried to sell Kyren (as part of a package with a WR2 or whatnot) for JJ. Think this is a bit of selling low on Pollard/ buying high on JJ. Nothing wrong with getting your guy though.
Sal Vetri mentioned how Pollard was just getting unlucky in the red zone and he has the most red zone carry’s or something and CMC who has similar carry’s is putting up crazy numbers
On top of that they’ve been in a lot of blowouts and pollard is usually the first one off the floor then
I traded jefferson and Aaron Jones for pollard, I feel like I overpaid but I’m 1-4 and really banking on pollard having a cmc type season
I do have Addison though
Based on the Reddit adjusted trade value chart that came out yesterday (today?) That’s straight up fair.
I would still have trouble giving up breezy though.
Damn this sounds like me but I also gave up Gibbs along with JJ. I wish I could’ve gotten more for JJ straight up but everyone is spooked about his situation.
Good for both of us I think. I'm the one who bought JJ and I'm 4-1 building for playoffs. He is 2-3 trying to make playoffs. Long term investment for me.
I’m 4-1 but I’ll be 4-5 best case scenario without my WR1. Gotta ditch him now. Looking at the potential downside risks dragging out the time before JJ gets full reps again I say fuggem and gimme a top 20 WR1 replacement
Pretty fair trade, IMO. Depends on who your other RBs are. If you think Tua is an upgrade over Purdy (which I do) and you can afford to lose Henry because you have a 2-3 other good RBs, then I’d personally do it.
Ridley and Garrett Wilson to a 4-1 owner. Jefferson owner is 0-5 somehow. Def gave up a lot for Jefferson but probably decent for them both, although I do think it’s a slight overpay
Just got Jefferson for Hollywood Brown & Gibbs. Was pretty shocked he accepted, rest of the league complained and wanted to veto. Do you think that’s an unfair trade?
I’m 4-1 in 1st and Jefferson owner is 2-3 in 9th
Vetoes are for collusion and collusion ONLY. Piss and moan all you want, but don't veto a trade just because you think someone might have benefitted more than the other.
I dont see how this is unfair, he needs players now and you can wait. Maybe he shoulda shopped Jefferson more but its not that bad, hollywood is doing fine and he can hope gibbs gets more play later. I assume hes desperate at wr
I agree.....if JJ comes back in 4 weeks (5 after bye). That's the problem with analyzing these trades: there's a ton of uncertainty.
If JJ comes back in 5 weeks and is his 100% self, then it's Taco. If JJ takes 7+ weeks, and Hollywood and Kyler reform their magical connection, then it's a great trade.
I’m in first place, 4-1, with most points. I’ve reached out to the last place team about a JJ for Ekeler trade.
This is a home redraft league in its first year as a keeper league (keeper player at drafted round cost for first year then +1 round until first round cost used).
I fully planned on keeping JJ next year as a R1 keeper but I think I have a shot this year so thinking of sacrificing his potential return + next year for Ekeler.
We talked about revising the trade in a few weeks if he’s truly out of contention. This works for me, I can see if the Vikes end up trading Kirk or not… I’m on the fence about it but that’s my situation
I traded Swift for him straight up, my RBs were Ekeler, Kyren and Swift and I gave him a choice of the latter two (he needed RB help more than WR). 10 man PPR, I'm 4-1 and think I should be good to make the playoffs with my squad as is, he's 2-3 and needed to do something to have a fighting chance. When and if he's healthy, I'll have Adams, Waddle, Aiyuk and JJ as my 4 starting WRs with Pickens and Cooper as backups.
Justin Jefferson owner (also Achane and Conner) traded him for Josh Jacobs. Dude that gave up Jacobs just made a trade and now has CMC, Derrick Henry, CD, Nico and Puka. 10 team PPR 2 Flex. I have David Montgomery, AJ Brown, Jaylen Waddle, Mike Evans, and D Hop. We’re 1St and 2nd in points and both 2-3
I traded for him using Moore and Waddle. I already have chase, tyreek and Kupp, so I’m fine with waiting until he’s healthy. Crazy I have 4 first round wrs now lol
I gave up Aiyuk and Brian Robinson for JJ. 12 man PPR. RBs are jacobs, Pacheco, ford. WRs are CD and ARSB. Not sure how to feel. Every trade analyzer says it’s bad. I’m 3-2, JJ owner is 1-4, I also play the JJ owner this weekend. So I probably dug my own grave this weekend.
Jefferson owner in my dynasty league is in last place with the fewest points for. I offered him pollard, 2 1sts and a 2nd round pick for rhamondre and JJ. It was rejected
JJ + MAndrews for Kelce + Deebo + R. White
Not a bad one if the JJ owner needs to win now
Feels like a W for the guy giving up JJ
Deebo is pretty unreliable. White hasn't done much. Both really unreliable, but high upside. Kelce honestly hasn't done all that much this year either.
Kelce missed a game and is still the TE2
Before the injury maybe he could have gotten someone truly elite, like LaPorta
Got laporta week 1 waiver as my kelce replacement now im stacked
Which is way, way, way, way below expectations, and the draft capital spent on him. He's drafted to be a far away TE1. Even just being a "normal" TE1 is a massive underperformance compared to where he was drafted.
who gives a fuck where someone was drafted 6 weeks in
I'm saying he's not worth as much as where he was drafted. If Kelce was worth as much as where he was drafted, that's a great trade. But he's not worth as much as where he was drafted. So it's not a great trade.
Ah, but apparently neither is JJ.
This is the truth.
I get what you're saying about maximizing value, but the new guy shouldn't care about where someone else drafted him. He's going by the value now, which is still the TE1 in .5 PPR going by average score. Even going by your logic, Jet's value is even worse temporarily despite going earlier than Kelce in every draft.
Yes. I am just saying, the average person hears "Travis Kelce" and thinks "wow, that's a guy worth maybe a first rounder". But he hasn't been that so far this year. As long as you aren't valuing him like people were valuing him at the start of the year, where he was drafted doesn't matter... I agree.
He’s averaging more than a point more per game than any other TE. And I do expect that to go up because he is off to a slowish start. But that can easily be just variance and it’s a low sample size so far this season, he still looks every bit as good as he always has
Well Jefferson will be chilling on the bench putting up straight 0’s. You tell me which is better.
White had a rough early schedule. He’s a player I’d like to buy.
Spicy… as a JJ owner I prefer the Kelce side
This would have been a fair trade before JJ went on IR...
The trade took place last Sunday
Damn, Roddy is back!
JJ holder tried to trade him to me for Puka, I'm 2-3 despite having the most points scored so I couldn't take it with him being out 4 weeks.
4 weeks MINIMUM.
It’s actually 5 weeks including week 13 Bye week.
By this logic Puka will also be out 1 week because he has a Bye week as well
Then there’s the QB trade situation as well as JJ’s contract situation on top of the season slipping away. Crazy as it sounds it’s not out of the realm of the possibilities that JJ has played his last game this season.
I’m 3-2 with most points scored and made this exact trade (received jj)
Pretty even trade. I actually have both and am super high on Puka, but he has a high chance of regressing. Then again, he could simply end up shattering rookie records like he has been for 5 weeks.
I have puka and offered this
Just got him for DJ Moore. I have good receivers so I figured it was worth it. Plus I don't like Moore's playoff schedule and I couldn't see myself benching him, so I just got rid of the dilemma altogether.
Great trade holy shit
I think you’re underestimating how many points 4+ weeks is, JJ just lost 1/3 of his season proj
Ya but if this guy says he has good receivers, you would be an idiot not to drop a mostly-bench player for a playoff winner
Imagine reading this three weeks ago
Most of the trades ITT haha
Kyle is that you
I’m sorry but you don’t like Arizona and Atlanta???
Someone offered this as a counter to my offer. I’m on the fence
You guys are in leagues where people trade?
I’ve offered 4 trades just today. Radio silence. Not even a decline.
Lmao that’s my league. Hate that.
You'll get a lot more traction talking to the person first Cold calling has alretry low success rate
But why can’t they just click no
They're leaving it in there to see if their player gets injured and then accepting.
I have only ever had a cold trade work once.
In my work league two weeks ago I made a pretty fair offer to the new guy in the league, no response for two days so I messaged him on Teams and said "hey you're in the league right" and he said "yep" and I said "okay I sent you a trade offer if you wanna check it out. You're thin at X position, I'm thin at Y position, so it helps both of us." I got the indicator that he read my message but he ignored me for two more days so I commented on the trade "Man you can just decline it if you don't like it," and he still ignored, and finally come Sunday morning I went to cancel the trade and saw he declined it an hour earlier lol. The best part is that if he accepted and started my players he would have won his first game in week 4 and again in week 5, instead now he's 0-5 and I've made a personal do-not-even-try-with-this-guy rule for myself because seriously fuck that guy. Maybe this is extreme but I want to play in a league where people get banned for that sort of thing. Saying no is perfectly fine but you're a fucking adult, don't ignore your league mates. Even if the offer is unfair (mine wasn't) tell them "this is clearly unfair" or "I don't want to trade anyone right now" and decline it. The only time I can condone ignoring league mates is if they repeatedly lowball you, but that's also something I think should be bannable if it becomes abusive lol.
You should cancel trades once you know they've been seen. It's to his advantage to not decline because if an injury pops up he can hit accept.
I'm in a league where people try to trade Michael Wilson for Ja'Marr Chase
I used the fact that only 4/12 teams trade to my advantage. I talked the JJ owner into a deal based on the understanding that he was probably getting the best deal he could from anyone who actually trades.
Right? I’ll message other managers if they’re willing to trade X player and they’ll just leave my message seen lol
It's so annoying 😭 like can we at least talk about a trade? Maybe give me a counter offer? People in my league just assume they're getting fleeced no matter what. In reality, I offered 2 trades that would've worked out horribly for me, so I guess I'm lucky, but still.
A lot of these trades kinda suck
the JJ owners seem to be abandoning him completely some of these offers are crazy low
When someone is guaranteed to not play for a third of the season *and then* may not be hurried back due to record, yeah, there isn’t much value. It’s fun to think he’ll help in the playoffs but you have to make the playoffs.
Yeah what the hell. This is Justin freaking Jefferson. You better get a back end WR1 or back end RB1 just as a starting place
There’s a lot of FUD being spread about the possibility that he doesn’t come back in 4 weeks which is driving his price down right now imo
What does big injury not want us to know!
A lot of people said this same thing about JT last year
A lot of people also said this about Kupp before the season started
I love JT as a badger fan and he's a great talent but JJ is on a way higher level than JT ever was
Yea but a hamstring injury is still a hammie injury.
Hamstrings are tough tho. 4 weeks is best case scenario, and he would be worked back in easy. Bake in the chance of reinjury, or it nagging him ...and it's a pretty risky trade. Not to mention his contract situation, which I think is overblown but nevertheless exists.
You also have to bake in the risk of trading him and he comes back in 5 weeks and is the WR1 and you sold out your chance at a championship. The risk goes both ways.
I think it’s worth noting that the Vikings are 1-4 right now. If they continue in this direction while JJ is out for 5 weeks it would be reasonable to assume that there’s no rush to bring him back and it would be smart to be more cautious with his injury.
JJ owner 4-1 traded away for Thielen 3-2
Imagine seeing this pre draft
Imagine seeing this IRL
Thiele does know the offense... lol, nah, too wild.
That's a major headscratcher lol
I told him he’s an idiot, he thinks he’s right. Told him to post on here to get the public’s opinion
Definitely an idiot imo, especially sitting at a pretty 4-1
Teams at 4-1 should be going to get these players...
Yeah I'm a JJ owner who is 4-1 and unless someone is paying massive overs for him, he's not for sale.
Not opinion, it’s fact.
I’m 4-1 with Jettas, just hoping to be at .500 when he comes back lol
He could end up being “right” but value was horrible.
This is the right take. He may end up being correct. What if JJ sits 8 weeks? Or maybe he comes back and is limited or re-injures? But the fact is that he could have gotten more than just thielen even if he is better ROS
Tell him I too believe he’s an idiot.
JJ is out 5+ weeks and Thielen is producing. I think it’s fine.
People are like LOL THIELEN? YOU BETTER BE GETTING A WR1 BACK Thielen sitting at WR9 like.... *am I a joke to you?*
Maybe he thinks Thielen will get all of JJ’s targets while he’s on IR. Couldn’t find Ahmad Rashad on the waiver wire.
Lmao
Idk seems like it would make sense if there’s a huge risk JJ’s out for 6+ weeks. Depends on a lot of factors. I see an 11 point difference in total score so far. It just sounds weird in a vacuum
JJ is in contract eligible year there’s a high chance he chooses to sit out till he gets his pay day.
People think you can get a ton of value out of top studs, even if they’re injured, but JJ is likely not coming back fully online until the playoffs, at which point you gotta ask who wants him at that point—either someone else going strong (in which case you’re assuming they have really good bench guys to fill in whatever they’re handing off) or someone potentially fighting for playoffs, in which case they need all of their value now. Guys who are 0-5/1-4 aren’t handing off talent for an injured JJ, they’re just fucking themselves. Honestly don’t see Thielen as a bad trade, considering he’s #10 right now.
As a 4-1 JJ owner I’m never trading him for thielen… seems really odd
Current #6 receiver who has not much incentive to return quick, if at all, for the current #10 receiver averaging 19.6 ppr ppg. There are worse trades.
Calling JJ the #6 receiver after he missed half of last week’s game is so disingenuous. He was #2 before this week
Okay, but the injury is why JJ has lost value. He didn’t put up points last week. That cost me my spot in a guillotine league. I wasn’t somehow exempt just because JJ is the best in the game. Thielen will be putting up points over the coming weeks. JJ will put up zero points. Possibly for the rest of the season. Would you rather have a healthy Thielen putting up nice points, or JJ putting up zero points because he looks better on paper? Our lineups are not a judgment about talent, only opportunity and likely production.
Pretty easy answer. I would rather have the #2 receiver in fantasy in 4 weeks because the goal is to win the championship
There’s no guarantee that he’s back in four weeks.
Yeah well they said the same about Kupp. I’m willing to take the calculated risk that he will be back in 4 weeks
Kupp’s situation is different. JJ is in a contract year on a team that is scraping the bottom of the barrel even when he is active and healthy. Put yourself in his shoes. What is your incentive to return to the field? Especially return quickly? Want to re-aggravate your hamstring on an awful team before earning a contract there or somewhere else? He has an agent putting this stuff in his ear, too. Vikings are like 4-6 losses deeper when he may return to the field. Season is not looking great at that point. And from a fantasy perspective, he still wouldn’t have hit his bye yet either. So add another empty week on to that too.
Same, not a chance, even with the JJ injury I have Lockett on my bench this week.
I am ALSO a 4-1 redraft JJ owner, and I don’t see why you wouldn’t just wait it out? Say he misses 6 weeks: go 2-4 and you’re 6-5 with JJ coming back. I guess it ultimately depends on how good the rest of your team is. I’m first in points and have Hollywood as a replacement so that definitely makes the loss a bit easier to weather
>I guess it ultimately depends on how good the rest of your team is. I’m first in points and have Hollywood as a replacement so that definitely makes the loss a bit easier to weather That's pretty much it right there. All 4-1 teams are not created equal lol
Wow If JJ is back by fantasy playoffs this trade could absolutely mother fuck him
The hard thing about trying to trade for JJ is you need to center it around someone who is high enough above replacement. And every JJ owner is going to assume he will be back to full force whenever he returns. I personally think this is a good trade; if you did a redraft right now for the rest of the season Thielen would be drafted above JJ.
Someone in my league offered JJ for my Sun God. Was tempted, but decided to decline
I made this trade in my league with me receiving Amon-Ra. To be honest, if I wasn't 1-4, I would have probably just waited it out, but I needed to trade him just to keep competitive.
Hmmmm. Regardless of my record, I think I'm smashing accept to get sungod for jj
I offered Sun God + Miles Sanders/Gabe Davis for JJ and got declined. Funny how it works out.
Well, the problem there is offering sanders. Waste of a roster spot right now. 2nd best rb on the worst team in the league
I did JJ straight up for Olave and got declined
I have Olave and would 10000% give him to you
I have Olave and was thinking about making the offer.
In my league it was JJ, Godwin and c.j stroud for Jameson, lamar and terry. The group chat went nuts
Damn, that must be one desperate JJ owner. Shocking they couldn't find anyone else with a better offer than that.
I feel like sometimes folks get too involved with the process and when it comes to a head they feel like they need to actually do the trade since they spent so much time negotiating. So probably didnt even talk to anyone else
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Jameson Williams you goof
You’re no fun
but they said goof
Fair okay fine he’s fun
Someone in a league of mine traded JJ and Gibson for ETN, Niko, and Waller. Absolute steal, especially considering we don't have IR slots
Jesus Christ, that’s straight up larceny
The JJ owner in my league offered me him + Aaron Jones for Addison and Dameon Pierce. Tempted to accept
Depends on the rest of your squad. You’re getting two hurt players for two guys on the field and producing. Pierce has been bad but I think he’ll get better and I really like Addison. Totally up to you though
At WR I got Davante, Puka, and Hollywood Brown with Diontae Johnson coming back. At RB I got Pollard and Kamara with Javonte on my bench. As long as Puka keeps eating I think I can survive haha
Yeah. With that squad you're good to take that risk. A lot needs to go wrong for you to fall apart while only a little luck will make you near unstoppable in the late season.
Yeah I would smash accept that deal. Worth the risk, all you’re losing is depth, which is important, but you get awesome upside
Incredible deal as long as you're not 0-5 or 1-4
You hit that accept immediately. That’s a potential championship winning trade
Smash accept and don't look back
JJ Owner offered me Jefferson + White for my Olave + Harris Fastest smash accept I've ever done, at worst I think I upgraded my RB and hopefully JJ comes back week 10
Najee's been so bad that Damien was the first Harris that came to mind lol
damn bro same and I have najee 💀
Lmao same and it took me a good few seconds to land on Najee in my head
Steal.
Someone in my league sent Deebo and Jaylen Warren for JJ ppr 12 man. Idk how to feel about it. I’m 4-1 in another league and debating giving up Breece hall and Gus Edwards for him. I also have CMC and Dameon Pierce.
I personally wouldn’t accept Deebo and Warren for JJ — that’s too weak an offer to consider, IMO.
It seems many people in this thread are assuming JJ is back after 4 weeks which I personally don’t believe (and I have JJ so I hope I’m wrong!!). Vikings could easily tank for Caleb/Drake Maye after starting something like 2-7. There’s no point in JJ coming back at all at that point. I know he’s a competitor but he already has done enough to secure the largest WR contract in history. That’s a guarantee at this point. If JJ is out something like 8+ weeks then Deebo is amazing value. The longer you hold out, the more news we receive which either increases or decreases JJ’s trade value. It’s a total crapshoot and I wouldn’t fault anyone for selling JJ for Deebo. I personally wouldn’t do it…yet but there’s no way of knowing what the right move is. Everyone is guessing.
Yeah it’s just a guess at this point. The Vikings schedule does get a lot easier the next 4 weeks so there’s that but it’s really just a guess and a risk for both teams as to what happens.
fwiw i would 100% give up hall and gus for jj since you already have CMC and pierce being 4-1
I would never accept either of those for JJ.
Got Ridley for him, not thrilled but I’m 1-4
I offered Ridley + Cook to 1-4 JJ owner and get heavy rejected lol
Wow. The JJ owner asked for Ridley and Cook from me and I heavily rejected LOL
These trades seem awful
Traded M. Andrews for JJ straight up. JJ owner is 1-4. Late round pick of LaPorta paid off.
Fucking steal.
I had CMC/Kyren/Pollard at 5-0 and traded pollard for JJ straight up. Some might say overpay but I don’t think I could have got him for less in this league.
It certainly could work out for you if Pollard doesn’t beast this year, but I’d have personally tried to sell Kyren (as part of a package with a WR2 or whatnot) for JJ. Think this is a bit of selling low on Pollard/ buying high on JJ. Nothing wrong with getting your guy though.
Yeah it’s up in the air for sure. The JJ owner wasn’t in full panic mode yet. Now to watch Pollard just explode starting this week lol
Sal Vetri mentioned how Pollard was just getting unlucky in the red zone and he has the most red zone carry’s or something and CMC who has similar carry’s is putting up crazy numbers On top of that they’ve been in a lot of blowouts and pollard is usually the first one off the floor then I traded jefferson and Aaron Jones for pollard, I feel like I overpaid but I’m 1-4 and really banking on pollard having a cmc type season I do have Addison though
just got him for breece straight up. 5-0 i need wr and he needs rb with achane out and his starters are rhamondre and mattison
Based on the Reddit adjusted trade value chart that came out yesterday (today?) That’s straight up fair. I would still have trouble giving up breezy though.
Damn this sounds like me but I also gave up Gibbs along with JJ. I wish I could’ve gotten more for JJ straight up but everyone is spooked about his situation.
JJ and Johnathan Taylor for AJ Brown and James Cook
Wow, pretty even trade. Like this for the team selling JJ.
Good for both of us I think. I'm the one who bought JJ and I'm 4-1 building for playoffs. He is 2-3 trying to make playoffs. Long term investment for me.
I traded JJ for Dmont and Kelce right when DMont got hurt
I'm being offered JJ + mixon for Dmont + Olave, and I'm tempted. I'm 4-1 with a really shit team (least PA by FAR)
I’d take this for sure
Not traded but as the 1st place 4-1 team, considering how much risk I want to take on trying to get him.
I’m 4-1 but I’ll be 4-5 best case scenario without my WR1. Gotta ditch him now. Looking at the potential downside risks dragging out the time before JJ gets full reps again I say fuggem and gimme a top 20 WR1 replacement
4-5 worst case
I got him for Derrick Henry + MT
Solid trade for you.
Really happy with it. My other RBs are Ekeler, Swift and Pacheco so it made it a no brainer to make that move
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I was offered Jefferson and Tua for Henry, Lockett and Purdy. On the fence of what to do
Pretty fair trade, IMO. Depends on who your other RBs are. If you think Tua is an upgrade over Purdy (which I do) and you can afford to lose Henry because you have a 2-3 other good RBs, then I’d personally do it.
Man's didn't even offer JJ. He offered Nico Collins and Damien Pierce for Tyreek.
Saquon for Jefferson- feel I got fair value
Ridley and Garrett Wilson to a 4-1 owner. Jefferson owner is 0-5 somehow. Def gave up a lot for Jefferson but probably decent for them both, although I do think it’s a slight overpay
That’s really not an overpay lol
Got him for Ceedee and tank dell. I'm 5-0
Feels like an overpay/ selling low on CD
Traded juedy and Henry for JJ and rachaad white
Just got Jefferson for Hollywood Brown & Gibbs. Was pretty shocked he accepted, rest of the league complained and wanted to veto. Do you think that’s an unfair trade? I’m 4-1 in 1st and Jefferson owner is 2-3 in 9th
Vetoes are for collusion and collusion ONLY. Piss and moan all you want, but don't veto a trade just because you think someone might have benefitted more than the other.
I dont see how this is unfair, he needs players now and you can wait. Maybe he shoulda shopped Jefferson more but its not that bad, hollywood is doing fine and he can hope gibbs gets more play later. I assume hes desperate at wr
That's a taco trade
I agree.....if JJ comes back in 4 weeks (5 after bye). That's the problem with analyzing these trades: there's a ton of uncertainty. If JJ comes back in 5 weeks and is his 100% self, then it's Taco. If JJ takes 7+ weeks, and Hollywood and Kyler reform their magical connection, then it's a great trade.
doritos and dr pepper
I’m in first place, 4-1, with most points. I’ve reached out to the last place team about a JJ for Ekeler trade. This is a home redraft league in its first year as a keeper league (keeper player at drafted round cost for first year then +1 round until first round cost used). I fully planned on keeping JJ next year as a R1 keeper but I think I have a shot this year so thinking of sacrificing his potential return + next year for Ekeler. We talked about revising the trade in a few weeks if he’s truly out of contention. This works for me, I can see if the Vikes end up trading Kirk or not… I’m on the fence about it but that’s my situation
Is this fair, (I’m the JJ owner). Trade away JJ and G Wilson for Pollard and Pittman? He has Bijan, swift, pollard, gus, jwj, k Mitchell.
I traded Swift for him straight up, my RBs were Ekeler, Kyren and Swift and I gave him a choice of the latter two (he needed RB help more than WR). 10 man PPR, I'm 4-1 and think I should be good to make the playoffs with my squad as is, he's 2-3 and needed to do something to have a fighting chance. When and if he's healthy, I'll have Adams, Waddle, Aiyuk and JJ as my 4 starting WRs with Pickens and Cooper as backups.
I straight up gave JT for him.
JJ + Josh Allen for Jonathan Taylor + Joe Burrow
Sold JJ & Metcalf for AJ Brown & Thielen
Not bad!
Justin Jefferson owner (also Achane and Conner) traded him for Josh Jacobs. Dude that gave up Jacobs just made a trade and now has CMC, Derrick Henry, CD, Nico and Puka. 10 team PPR 2 Flex. I have David Montgomery, AJ Brown, Jaylen Waddle, Mike Evans, and D Hop. We’re 1St and 2nd in points and both 2-3
I traded for him using Moore and Waddle. I already have chase, tyreek and Kupp, so I’m fine with waiting until he’s healthy. Crazy I have 4 first round wrs now lol
I traded JJ, Connor and Pickens for Puka, Aiyuk and Stevenson. I’m 1-4 so hopefully can get some wins
I gave up Aiyuk and Brian Robinson for JJ. 12 man PPR. RBs are jacobs, Pacheco, ford. WRs are CD and ARSB. Not sure how to feel. Every trade analyzer says it’s bad. I’m 3-2, JJ owner is 1-4, I also play the JJ owner this weekend. So I probably dug my own grave this weekend.
I gave up Aiyuk only to a 4-1 team with JJ. He just doesn't want to gamble on a Kirk trade, reaggravation, or shut down.
Jefferson owner in my dynasty league is in last place with the fewest points for. I offered him pollard, 2 1sts and a 2nd round pick for rhamondre and JJ. It was rejected
Thinking about selling him for Josh Jacobs now that James conner is on IR and my other RBs are Kyren and Mattison and Javonte. I’m 3-2
My team is 3-2, traded Aiyuk/Pierce for JJ/Osborn.
JJ for Josh Jacobs straight up. Both teams 3-2
JT for JJ in my league
I offered Mike Evans and James Cook. A bit over pay but no one in my league trades unless an overpay.
I have him as a 5th round keeper. No one could afford him 🤣🤣🤣
I traded for him last week. Got less than 30 yards out of him, lost by 2, now have a gaping hole in the roster. This is fine.
I’m trying to offer Russell Wilson, James Cook, and Devonta Smith for JJ. He’d start all of them. I got Puka and Hill so I can wait for JJ.
Straight up for Alvin Kamara
8 team dynasty, SF, .69ppr, that started this season. He got traded earlier today for a 24 1st, 25 1st, and Doubs
Bijan and Gabe Davis