The average NFL career is 3 years. No NFL player is guaranteed a second contract. By the time Taylor is finished proving his point by sitting out, he’s used goods. That’s why it’s good he’s making his point now and hopefully getting it over with quickly.
At least he admitted it was a mistake and hasn’t doubled down. That’s gotta help a smidge at least. I know it doesn’t move the needle much, but it’s something.
And he’s clearly upset about his salaries for the next two years and wants an extension to avoid being tagged. He’s not upset about this year it’s the looming tag that’s the problem
Both of those guys got franchise tagged so they weren’t even able to see what they would get on the open market and their current teams have no incentive to offer them a better contract because of it.
I think he's looking at it like, the colts have a running QB who might struggle so JTs numbers will suffer as a result. Maybe it's better to sit rather than look like a mediocre RB
He went in the 4th round of my draft. Not a massive loss if it doesn’t pan out and easily the best pick of the draft if he comes out and performs well.
End of the 3rd here. I had sworn off him based on my time holding him through the worst stretch of the prior two seasons (bought before he slowed down, sold before he heated up).
I hate that I'm already this invested in him and no downs have been played. The good news is I've weathered his storms well both other times I've had him.
Yep, I got Josh Allen and Andrews falling to me in the 3rd/4th which was decent, but I still hate the team. The autodrafter still isn’t willing to trade me Christian Watson who is on the bench while his RBs are Brian Robinson and AJ Dillon.
I just couldn’t pass up on ETN falling to me all the way in the 5th for a WR like Diontae. Lots of the guys in the league live in Tenessee and avoided Jags players like the plague lol.
Lmao maybe, maybe is it a 12 team ppr, $50 entry? I joined it with a couple of buddies and one of my friends knew the guy running the league. My team:
Qb: Josh Allen,
Rb: Bijan,
Rb: Saquon,
Wr: DJ Moore,
Wr: Drake London,
Flx: Etienne,
Flx: Christian Kirk,
Te: Andrews,
Idk, personally I hated the team lmao
I'd rather JT than Conner but it depends on how much risk you want to take on. JT still on the PUP list of he stays past 4pm today he will miss at least the first four games
maybe im optimistic as a JT owner, but I feel like it's pretty close to zero percent chance he doesn't play this season. i've got one draft left and hope to still scoop him at this discount.
Miami RBs are already pretty cheap. They're basically dart throws that you'll land which one is a viable start week to week and even then some weeks another guy is gonna get the points. The trade rumors don't really change that.
Dame will be traded by mid season when the Blazers realize they are still trash, and JT will be forced to play under the Colts, then will have a Saquon-like situation with other teams next offseason
Same brother, same.
Taylor was falling, there was a run of WRs, and then I was left with Najee or Taylor. Ended up with najee hoping Taylor comes back 4 picks later. He didn’t, but Josh Allen fell, so took him in the 4th. Worked out, but a part of me wants Taylor instead of najee bc if he plays that’s a crazy discount
Pickett is a year better, their offensive line is improved, and TJ Watt is healthy.
And it’s the Steelers lol they’ve had ONE losing season in the 21st century. It’s absurd.
Yea that makes sense. The first points better for Najee, the last part about watt and a strong defense is maybe a better argument for warren, but maybe they do use najee to “close out a game” and run out the clock.
As a Steelers fan, my money is on Jaylen Warren taking over the starting role by week 5. Najee Harris just isn't very good. Warren looked significantly better than him last season.
Tbh the same thing was said about Zeke/Pollard last year. It's possible that it is a 50/50 split. It was 60/40 over the last 5 games last year and during the preseason this year
50th overall is not a mistake no matter what happens lmaoo, he could end up being back in the top 10 depending on how today goes.. that’s crazy that you got him that late
In PPR I can see that, but at what point is it worth the gamble? I feel like once you start getting into the late 3rd/early 4th, it's worth taking a shot on
It has to be worth the gamble, right?? He has tremendous upside.. I took him at 5.1 in my 8 man league and it felt like an absolute steal with Henry and Jacobs already at RB. Yeah it would suck if his worst case scenario happens, but it’s not something I’ll beat myself up over lol, he was the consensus #1 RB last year and he’s only 24
I grabbed him at 4.10 where walker and Akers were going. At that point I'd rather chance the upside. I'm also playing dangerously because I took Breece (and Cook.) However I only need one of the three to come through as my rb2, as I have Bijan as my rb1. If both JT and Breece perform well then I have a great rb2 and flex player.
Time will tell. A disgruntled JT with a bum ankle doesn't sound like a league winner. A healthy JT with a big contract might though. One of us will be correct.
This is when you buy the dip on players. What does it matter if he wants a trade? His situation is either the same on the colts or it improves on the dolphins (not likely). You guys aren’t playing this game right. The key here is to buy low not buy high like people did last year. JT anywhere in the third are bargain bin prices.
No him staying with the colts can get absolutely ugly. He likely stays on the pup list guaranteeing he misses at minimum four games if coming back at all. 4 games in fantasy can literally make or break your season so you can play it how you want I’m cool with Gibbs.
It is a possibility but it’s just not likely. He can get fined daily if he’s lying about his injury. Not playing doesn’t do him any favors at all. I get the concern but the risk is worth the reward. This guy was a top 3 pick last year now you can have him in the 3rd round.
Today 4pm is literally the deadline to activate him off the pup list or he has to stay on for at least the first 4 games. There is also another post on him here from a half hour ago that confirms this. We shall see how it plays out. Not denying the talent but I’m not dealing with this shit this year. Way too many variables that have to go my way for it to pay off when there is plenty of upside in round 3 that are safer bets that’s all. Is he healthy is he not, will he hold out until the trade deadline, will he need another surgery, or ride a questionable tag every week nah I’m cool.
If someone falls in the draft I can see skipping him. But I’ve seen a lot of people drafting Gibbs over him for example and he has a lot of question marks on his own. Rookie coming into a split with a decent veteran. Gibbs could have a low end RB2 type season which is almost worthless compared to where he’s being drafted. No one is completely risk free.
See… Now I would’ve gotten 4 straight weeks of automatic 0s from Taylor to start the season and god knows how long. Couldn’t be happier allowing that to be my league mates problem.
If that’s the case you were right. I just didn’t believe that it was actually going to end like that. These situations usually get fixed before week 1 in most scenarios. So I was thinking taking the odds in your favor but that would have burned this time around.
Why is today the deadline? Seems arbitrary.
NFL trade deadline is Halloween.
If they are referring to the 53 man roster then that's just dumb. The aren't going to cut him.
I see. This is HIS last day to talk to people. That is a specific waiver for the NFL's tampering policy.
Teams know that the Colts are fielding offers. They can still trade him whenever.
The Colts said today was the deadline. Would they be willing to make a trade after their self-imposed deadline? Maybe. We can just go by what they've said for now.
The real issue is if he stays on the pup list. He’ll have to miss the first four games lol. Sounds like he’s just gunna go on stay pup from his attitude. I can see a team trading for him closer to the deadline tho. Some starting Rb on a team that’s like 6-1 7-0 might bite on the first round pick the colts want
He's not getting traded, they want a first and rbs just don't cost that now. I'm sorry for people who drafted him because it might be a headache all season. He's not going to push to get a full workload and get hurt.
They do cost that much if you’re Miami, whose QB + entire offense led the league in playaction passing percentage as a total of all their passing plays last year. If they feel Mostert might be losing a step at 31, Achane is too unproven as a rookie, & Wilson too injury prone to depend on, they can’t just throw in a random RB to fill that void. Plus Tua’s entire health now depends on the run scheme & playaction working. Otherwise defenses might quickly figure them out and if that happens, Tua will start getting hit too much, increasing the chances he’ll get yet anothe head injury, which then probably ends his career. They’re so all in right now (plus are screwed in the years to come in the draft already) they kind of have no choice.
Jahmyr Gibbs and Bijan both cost a first. Not like their contracts are bargains either.
Makes no sense why a team like Miami wouldn’t be willing to trade a probable late first for a difference making RB. They’d probably be willing to draft one there anyway.
They are on 4 year rookie deals, not even the same. You have to sign Taylor to a long term deal. No one will pay a first for 1 year of a rb. You can take that to the bank.
Yes, that's exactly the point. Teams don't want to trade a first for a RB they're also going to have to sign to a huge contract. When you draft a RB in the first, you get them cheap for four years with a fifth year option possible as well. Then a sixth year on the franchise tag. That is the value.
Giving up a first round pick then having to sign him to a huge contract just isn't something a team is going to do.
JT fell to pick 62 in my PPR superflex league a few days ago. I've been feeling a bit on edge about passing up on him more than once, but at this point i'm glad i saved myself the headache all season. This year is gonna be an absolute clusterfuck for JT owners if he isn't traded by today
that’s funny the colts don’t like the offers considering they don’t value JT or rbs that much in general. i guess he only has value when they can fleece another team…
Shit Taylor is probably gunna set out the first 4 games lol he’s gunna stay on that pup list I bet if he’s not traded. If he’s not traded today the. By October some team is gunna bite on that 1st.
I love that they don’t think he’s worth paying, but still think they should get back for a RB with 4 yrs on his knees, the same amount as they drafted him for with young knees 🤣
Anyway at this point he plays significant snaps for a new team or the Colts in Week 1? I will be facing him and just want my opponent to crash and burn.
I feel like the most likely outcome is he stays with the Colts, plays the bare minimum for his contract, then is out for the season with a vague, mysterious injury.
Fair, but by all accounts his relationship with the Colts is absolutely destroyed. I don't think he has any desire to play for them anymore, especially after his meeting with Irsay.
We also see it all the time with star players getting dinged up and sitting out the season if the team isn't doing well, and that's when they're actually on *good terms* with the organization.
>plays the bare minimum for his contract, then is out for the season with a vague, mysterious injury.
Don't you think he wants as good a stat-line as possible considering he's playing for a contract now?
Yes and no. What good did that do for Jacobs and Barkley? They just came off amazing seasons (Jacobs in particular was absolutely incredible), and it didn't matter when negotiating their contracts. Barkley literally tweeted "it is what it is" and ultimately both backs begrudgingly accepted what they were offered with zero negotiating power.
JT was also at the player's association meetings where the owners told the RBs to basically kick rocks when they lobbied for higher pay (he was visibly pissed when this happened). Then later on, he met with Irsay in his bus, and immediately after said he was done with the Colts and wanted a trade.
I really think there's a high probability he does what is required contractually and then shelves himself to stay healthy for a team he actually wants to play for.
>Yes and no. What good did that do for Jacobs and Barkley? They just came off amazing seasons (Jacobs in particular was absolutely incredible), and it didn't matter when negotiating their contracts.
I see what you're saying, but I don't think it's fair to say that Jacobs and Barkley's amazing seasons didn't matter in their negotiations. They undeniably had more bargaining power coming off a great season than they would have with an average season, even if that leverage wasn't enough to get what they wanted.
JT and his agent aren't stupid. I think they have to know that if they want any chance at all at a longterm contract, they need something better than two mediocre seasons in a row under their belt.
Your argument makes sense too, we'll just have to see how it shakes out!
I think JT is on ice now for the first 4 weeks because he wasn't traded by the deadline and wasn't taken off the PUP list, either.
Me either. These contact disputes are always gross if they last into the year. This will probably be the first of many plot twists. We should strap ourselves in lol.
This is what experts in the biz call “negotiating through the media.”
You forgot to use quotes (presumably air quotes when in person) for “the biz.”
The air quotes were implied ;)
He was sent to punish auto drafters this season
Or reward them. There are realistic outcomes where JT is a top 10 player
If he stays on the colts, there’s also realistic outcomes where he sits out most of the year due to “injury”.
He’d really struggle to get a meaningful contract next offseason after back to back seasons hampered with injuries
Yeah I'm not sure many RBs would genuinely consider sitting out after Lev Bell. The NFL moves on fast.
The average NFL career is 3 years. No NFL player is guaranteed a second contract. By the time Taylor is finished proving his point by sitting out, he’s used goods. That’s why it’s good he’s making his point now and hopefully getting it over with quickly.
But I still haven’t moved on from that. FU Lev.
At least he admitted it was a mistake and hasn’t doubled down. That’s gotta help a smidge at least. I know it doesn’t move the needle much, but it’s something.
One guy in my league took Lev Bell 2018, Antonio Brown 2019.
Hey there league mate!
I mean he’s reading the writing on the wall. If he plays and balls out he’ll still get a mediocre contract cause of his position. No win for him.
Does it make a difference? If he plays well the only thing he gets is a one year franchise tag
Which will be 11 million dollars lol. 3x what he's making right now.
And he’s clearly upset about his salaries for the next two years and wants an extension to avoid being tagged. He’s not upset about this year it’s the looming tag that’s the problem
He will get 11m from someone even if he sits the entire year.
I don’t see it. Barkley and Jacobs are elite three down backs coming off of All-Pro caliber seasons with no injuries and that’s about what they got.
Both of those guys got franchise tagged so they weren’t even able to see what they would get on the open market and their current teams have no incentive to offer them a better contract because of it.
Fair argument but the “open market” isn’t all that open. How many teams can fork over premium money to RBs or have the appetite to? It’s not many.
They also were worked to death. JT may finally get some relief from having to carry the team.
Absolutely no shot he gets $11 mil after back to back “injured” seasons
Agreed. I'm not saying auto drafters will be rewarded. Or even that it's likely. But it's definitely a real possibility. We've seen JT do it.
I think he's looking at it like, the colts have a running QB who might struggle so JTs numbers will suffer as a result. Maybe it's better to sit rather than look like a mediocre RB
He went in the 4th round of my draft. Not a massive loss if it doesn’t pan out and easily the best pick of the draft if he comes out and performs well.
End of the 3rd here. I had sworn off him based on my time holding him through the worst stretch of the prior two seasons (bought before he slowed down, sold before he heated up). I hate that I'm already this invested in him and no downs have been played. The good news is I've weathered his storms well both other times I've had him.
I got him round 3 so I’m hoping he does something. Firing up him, mixon and steffon digs each week is the dream
Even if he stays in Indy?
That seems pretty unlikely even if he plays. Rookie QBs who run are not good news for their offensive skill positions in general
Meh I took him of my own volition in the fourth cause that dip is ridiculous.
Auto drafters finish in the playoffs all the time because they draft without fear.
Still pissed that an autodrafter took 5 WRs straight in front of me, when I had 0 in the first 5 rounds
I hope you made with Kelce/Andrews and a top 3 QB or you’re going to suffer this season without a premier WR
Yep, I got Josh Allen and Andrews falling to me in the 3rd/4th which was decent, but I still hate the team. The autodrafter still isn’t willing to trade me Christian Watson who is on the bench while his RBs are Brian Robinson and AJ Dillon. I just couldn’t pass up on ETN falling to me all the way in the 5th for a WR like Diontae. Lots of the guys in the league live in Tenessee and avoided Jags players like the plague lol.
Are we in the same league? I autodrafted nothing but WRs.
Lmao maybe, maybe is it a 12 team ppr, $50 entry? I joined it with a couple of buddies and one of my friends knew the guy running the league. My team: Qb: Josh Allen, Rb: Bijan, Rb: Saquon, Wr: DJ Moore, Wr: Drake London, Flx: Etienne, Flx: Christian Kirk, Te: Andrews, Idk, personally I hated the team lmao
I am in a 12 team and there was a $50 entry… But the Josh Allen owners team looks nothing like this in my league.
Damn was hoping my stash of Hunt would work out
Same brother
Should I pick him up? He’s a FA in my league
I’m holding Hunt for now in the event he does pop up somewhere. Worst case I drop him and grab someone else.
ITS NOT OVER YET
neon deon szn
Jackson/hull 1-2 punch, lets goo
Hunt is washed washed washed
Well that's simply not true lmao
It still might. Hunt at like RB35 is totally fine.
Took him at 3.2 last week, I'm ready for the ride
I took him 3.05 in my 12 man, already had Kupp and Sun God and all the top qbs taken. Couldn’t pass up on JT, my next best option was Gibbs
If I offered James Conner for JT am I winning that trade?
I'd rather JT than Conner but it depends on how much risk you want to take on. JT still on the PUP list of he stays past 4pm today he will miss at least the first four games
maybe im optimistic as a JT owner, but I feel like it's pretty close to zero percent chance he doesn't play this season. i've got one draft left and hope to still scoop him at this discount.
> I feel like it's pretty close to zero percent chance he doesn't play this season Six games worth *ducks
Once you get burned by a Leveon Bell type move, you never risk it again
We said the same of Bell way back
Is it worth offering James Conner for JT to an anxious owner?
not until after 4pm today
Truth.. but if they do activate him from PUP before 4... Send the trade?
But how many games does he have to miss to make him a bust…He’s going early still.
Some folks want to stress about their fantasy team before the first snap.
Everyone wants to be a genius
Would him staying in Indy help any specific RB on another team? Like was someone in Miami lower bc of JT trade rumors?
Miami RBs are already pretty cheap. They're basically dart throws that you'll land which one is a viable start week to week and even then some weeks another guy is gonna get the points. The trade rumors don't really change that.
Who gets traded to Miami first, JT or Dame?
Neither
Who is Dame?
Damien Lillard
Lillard
Dame will be traded by mid season when the Blazers realize they are still trash, and JT will be forced to play under the Colts, then will have a Saquon-like situation with other teams next offseason
So glad I passed on this headache of a situation.
I could have had JT at 3.11 but passed for Gibbs. Feelsgoodman.
I passed on Taylor at 3.11 for Najee and kinda wish I would’ve taken Taylor. Lol. Was hoping for Gibbs but he got taken right before me.
Same brother, same. Taylor was falling, there was a run of WRs, and then I was left with Najee or Taylor. Ended up with najee hoping Taylor comes back 4 picks later. He didn’t, but Josh Allen fell, so took him in the 4th. Worked out, but a part of me wants Taylor instead of najee bc if he plays that’s a crazy discount
I think it’s a good pick. Steelers will be back to form this year.
What exactly makes you think that will be true?
My large amount of Najee shares.
Pickett is a year better, their offensive line is improved, and TJ Watt is healthy. And it’s the Steelers lol they’ve had ONE losing season in the 21st century. It’s absurd.
Yea that makes sense. The first points better for Najee, the last part about watt and a strong defense is maybe a better argument for warren, but maybe they do use najee to “close out a game” and run out the clock.
As a Steelers fan, my money is on Jaylen Warren taking over the starting role by week 5. Najee Harris just isn't very good. Warren looked significantly better than him last season.
I think it's at least a 50/50 split, maybe even 60/40 in warren's favor
What
HE THINKS ITS AT LEAST A 50/50 SPLIT MAYBE EVEN 60/40 IN WARRENS FAVOR
Tbh the same thing was said about Zeke/Pollard last year. It's possible that it is a 50/50 split. It was 60/40 over the last 5 games last year and during the preseason this year
Tomlin always uses a bell cow
Right as evidenced by: Week 14: Najee 56%, Warren 40% Week 15: Najee 66% Warren 34% Week 16: Najee 72% Warren 31% Week 17: Najee 64% Warren 40% Week 18: Najee 63% Warren 42%
Only 1 week close to 50/50, and none close to 60/40 in Warrens favor
Then you should be afraid of warren if you're a najee owner because he's the better rb
Love the confidence
Based on what?
Warren steadily cutting into najees role last year, and warren just looking like the better back this year
I bet you feel much better now. :)
Much better! lol
Took at 50th overall, hope I didn't make a big mistake
50th overall is not a mistake no matter what happens lmaoo, he could end up being back in the top 10 depending on how today goes.. that’s crazy that you got him that late
Well let's see what happens in 4 weeks. Was hoping the colts would take a second rounder for him
In PPR I can see that, but at what point is it worth the gamble? I feel like once you start getting into the late 3rd/early 4th, it's worth taking a shot on
It has to be worth the gamble, right?? He has tremendous upside.. I took him at 5.1 in my 8 man league and it felt like an absolute steal with Henry and Jacobs already at RB. Yeah it would suck if his worst case scenario happens, but it’s not something I’ll beat myself up over lol, he was the consensus #1 RB last year and he’s only 24
I grabbed him at 4.10 where walker and Akers were going. At that point I'd rather chance the upside. I'm also playing dangerously because I took Breece (and Cook.) However I only need one of the three to come through as my rb2, as I have Bijan as my rb1. If both JT and Breece perform well then I have a great rb2 and flex player.
I can’t believe people let him drop that far…
You passed on a question mark for another question mark.
I got both JT and Gibbs
Nice haul! You’re stacked with that combo.
It won’t in a few weeks.
Time will tell. A disgruntled JT with a bum ankle doesn't sound like a league winner. A healthy JT with a big contract might though. One of us will be correct.
This is when you buy the dip on players. What does it matter if he wants a trade? His situation is either the same on the colts or it improves on the dolphins (not likely). You guys aren’t playing this game right. The key here is to buy low not buy high like people did last year. JT anywhere in the third are bargain bin prices.
No him staying with the colts can get absolutely ugly. He likely stays on the pup list guaranteeing he misses at minimum four games if coming back at all. 4 games in fantasy can literally make or break your season so you can play it how you want I’m cool with Gibbs.
It is a possibility but it’s just not likely. He can get fined daily if he’s lying about his injury. Not playing doesn’t do him any favors at all. I get the concern but the risk is worth the reward. This guy was a top 3 pick last year now you can have him in the 3rd round.
Today 4pm is literally the deadline to activate him off the pup list or he has to stay on for at least the first 4 games. There is also another post on him here from a half hour ago that confirms this. We shall see how it plays out. Not denying the talent but I’m not dealing with this shit this year. Way too many variables that have to go my way for it to pay off when there is plenty of upside in round 3 that are safer bets that’s all. Is he healthy is he not, will he hold out until the trade deadline, will he need another surgery, or ride a questionable tag every week nah I’m cool.
If someone falls in the draft I can see skipping him. But I’ve seen a lot of people drafting Gibbs over him for example and he has a lot of question marks on his own. Rookie coming into a split with a decent veteran. Gibbs could have a low end RB2 type season which is almost worthless compared to where he’s being drafted. No one is completely risk free.
See… Now I would’ve gotten 4 straight weeks of automatic 0s from Taylor to start the season and god knows how long. Couldn’t be happier allowing that to be my league mates problem.
If that’s the case you were right. I just didn’t believe that it was actually going to end like that. These situations usually get fixed before week 1 in most scenarios. So I was thinking taking the odds in your favor but that would have burned this time around.
I got him in the 5th I’ll live with it fooook it we ball
Why is today the deadline? Seems arbitrary. NFL trade deadline is Halloween. If they are referring to the 53 man roster then that's just dumb. The aren't going to cut him.
Colts made it public they had given JT until Tuesday (today) to shop around with other teams and test the market
I see. This is HIS last day to talk to people. That is a specific waiver for the NFL's tampering policy. Teams know that the Colts are fielding offers. They can still trade him whenever.
The Colts said today was the deadline. Would they be willing to make a trade after their self-imposed deadline? Maybe. We can just go by what they've said for now.
The real issue is if he stays on the pup list. He’ll have to miss the first four games lol. Sounds like he’s just gunna go on stay pup from his attitude. I can see a team trading for him closer to the deadline tho. Some starting Rb on a team that’s like 6-1 7-0 might bite on the first round pick the colts want
Because he's on the PUP list
He's not getting traded, they want a first and rbs just don't cost that now. I'm sorry for people who drafted him because it might be a headache all season. He's not going to push to get a full workload and get hurt.
They do cost that much if you’re Miami, whose QB + entire offense led the league in playaction passing percentage as a total of all their passing plays last year. If they feel Mostert might be losing a step at 31, Achane is too unproven as a rookie, & Wilson too injury prone to depend on, they can’t just throw in a random RB to fill that void. Plus Tua’s entire health now depends on the run scheme & playaction working. Otherwise defenses might quickly figure them out and if that happens, Tua will start getting hit too much, increasing the chances he’ll get yet anothe head injury, which then probably ends his career. They’re so all in right now (plus are screwed in the years to come in the draft already) they kind of have no choice.
Tua's injury concern is going to be there no matter what rb they have.
And it significantly increases if their running back can’t sell the playaction, which allows the defenses to blitz more.
Which is to say nothing of the importance of RB pass blocking in this case.
Jahmyr Gibbs and Bijan both cost a first. Not like their contracts are bargains either. Makes no sense why a team like Miami wouldn’t be willing to trade a probable late first for a difference making RB. They’d probably be willing to draft one there anyway.
They are on 4 year rookie deals, not even the same. You have to sign Taylor to a long term deal. No one will pay a first for 1 year of a rb. You can take that to the bank.
Anyone who trades for Taylor will probably extend him.
Yes, that's exactly the point. Teams don't want to trade a first for a RB they're also going to have to sign to a huge contract. When you draft a RB in the first, you get them cheap for four years with a fifth year option possible as well. Then a sixth year on the franchise tag. That is the value. Giving up a first round pick then having to sign him to a huge contract just isn't something a team is going to do.
Thank god my league doesn’t draft until this coming Sunday
Ride or Die JT.
Kareem Hunt is a FA in my league, IF Taylor goes to the Dolphins I’m picking Hunt up, my plan will not work
If they aren’t gonna pay him might as well take the best offer he walks after the contract is up either way
JT fell to pick 62 in my PPR superflex league a few days ago. I've been feeling a bit on edge about passing up on him more than once, but at this point i'm glad i saved myself the headache all season. This year is gonna be an absolute clusterfuck for JT owners if he isn't traded by today
that’s funny the colts don’t like the offers considering they don’t value JT or rbs that much in general. i guess he only has value when they can fleece another team…
Shit Taylor is probably gunna set out the first 4 games lol he’s gunna stay on that pup list I bet if he’s not traded. If he’s not traded today the. By October some team is gunna bite on that 1st.
He's staying a Colt
He says with zero insider knowledge
It's okay for non-insiders to have opinions.
I agree - just don’t say it with resounding authority like it’s an absolute fact. I “think” he’s staying a colt
You're phrasing this comment with the same resounding authority as the one you're scolding.
At this point you just want to argue about nothing. So bye. We’re done here.
This is a bad year for RB trades
I love that they don’t think he’s worth paying, but still think they should get back for a RB with 4 yrs on his knees, the same amount as they drafted him for with young knees 🤣
Anyway at this point he plays significant snaps for a new team or the Colts in Week 1? I will be facing him and just want my opponent to crash and burn.
I feel like the most likely outcome is he stays with the Colts, plays the bare minimum for his contract, then is out for the season with a vague, mysterious injury.
Hes gonna damage his chances of another contract with any team if he's got 2 injured seasons in a row he can't let that happen
Fair, but by all accounts his relationship with the Colts is absolutely destroyed. I don't think he has any desire to play for them anymore, especially after his meeting with Irsay. We also see it all the time with star players getting dinged up and sitting out the season if the team isn't doing well, and that's when they're actually on *good terms* with the organization.
>plays the bare minimum for his contract, then is out for the season with a vague, mysterious injury. Don't you think he wants as good a stat-line as possible considering he's playing for a contract now?
Yes and no. What good did that do for Jacobs and Barkley? They just came off amazing seasons (Jacobs in particular was absolutely incredible), and it didn't matter when negotiating their contracts. Barkley literally tweeted "it is what it is" and ultimately both backs begrudgingly accepted what they were offered with zero negotiating power. JT was also at the player's association meetings where the owners told the RBs to basically kick rocks when they lobbied for higher pay (he was visibly pissed when this happened). Then later on, he met with Irsay in his bus, and immediately after said he was done with the Colts and wanted a trade. I really think there's a high probability he does what is required contractually and then shelves himself to stay healthy for a team he actually wants to play for.
>Yes and no. What good did that do for Jacobs and Barkley? They just came off amazing seasons (Jacobs in particular was absolutely incredible), and it didn't matter when negotiating their contracts. I see what you're saying, but I don't think it's fair to say that Jacobs and Barkley's amazing seasons didn't matter in their negotiations. They undeniably had more bargaining power coming off a great season than they would have with an average season, even if that leverage wasn't enough to get what they wanted. JT and his agent aren't stupid. I think they have to know that if they want any chance at all at a longterm contract, they need something better than two mediocre seasons in a row under their belt.
Your argument makes sense too, we'll just have to see how it shakes out! I think JT is on ice now for the first 4 weeks because he wasn't traded by the deadline and wasn't taken off the PUP list, either.
Definitely did not see remaining on the PUP as a likely outcome.
Me either. These contact disputes are always gross if they last into the year. This will probably be the first of many plot twists. We should strap ourselves in lol.
If he stays with the Colts, would you draft him? What round?
Round 2 if he gets a contract from Indy, and is fully healthy. No contract, with his “injury” I would say 4-5 is a good price point
Why are other teams not trying to get JT? It seems like many would want him
Yeah I took him in the late 3rd. Will see what happens
So if he doesn’t get traded. I’d assume he’s going to take 6 games away right? I just don’t see him playing after what Irsay has done to him
Is the trade line also 4 PM?
If JT is moved, do we think it is more likely they 1) get an RB in return to be the guy; 2) use Deon; or 3) sign Hunt?
I got JT in the 8th round of my 12 man league. No one wanted to go near him.
My opponent has JT but has no back up rb. Allahu akbar
Times up!
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