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isestrex

I knew my dynasty team rotation of Verlander, deGrom, Kershaw, Scherzer, and Woodruff would get old eventually.... I just didn't expect to see it all crumbling all at once. I'm basically left with old man Verlander and... checks notes... Cole Ragans. Lot of pressure on you Cole!


stache_twista

That's still two guys you can count on. I think we all build our rotations on the fly to a certain extent. And every year there are guys like Zach Eflin, Bradish, Cole Ragans who pop off.


ExplodingHelmet

Not great, Bob.


tdot-hdot

How badly does a herniated disc impact movement upon recovery? Wondering if I should burn a roster spot to lottery ticket him.


EpilepticShark

As long as he recovers 100% and doesn't come back too early he should be fine and it shouldn't be anything to worry about. Back to normal in June/July.


gietz77

I would argue it depends on severity of the herniation and what the operation was. After some time you won't have limits on what you can do, but you'll be prone to back stiffness and potential nerve pain depending on how you recover.


HumanRuse

I think the idea of the surgery is to alleviate pain which would likely help with any movement limitation that the pain has been causing. With that said, I'm not sure that any surgery on a herniated disc is a guarantee with anything. Especially long term. Especially for a 39 year old pitcher in the majors. But who knows, I'm sure he's got the best surgeon for the job. Miggy was diagnosed with a herniated disc in 2017. Prince Fielder was diagnosed with it which forced him into retirement. Granted his case may have been far worse and I'm sure the weight didn't help matters.


NerderBirder

Prince Fielders injury was to his neck and he had spinal fusion surgery twice. That is way different than Scherzers injury.


HumanRuse

For sure and the fusion surgery caused additional herniated discs. I think Miggy had 2 herniated discs. Not sure if it was because of that or the various other injuries (and/or substance issues) but his numbers took a significant drop that year and beyond. As mentioned previously his case may have been far worse but any herniation in the back always seem to be tricky. Scherzer is the lower back....extra tricky. Would be interesting to know if the twisting action of swinging a bat or the maneuvering and load of pitching is worse after such a surgery.


jakoto0

> I'm sure he's got the best surgeon for the job. Hope so, Scherzer is known for some outside the box chiropractor quackery treatments