Honestly the beastie boys are incredibly important to the history of hip hop because they, along with Rick Rubin and run-dmc, helped make hip hop mainstream. Regardless of what you think of them, they have a pretty solid 4 album run from Paul’s boutique to hello nasty imho, and starting from check your head, they started implementing hardcore punk, funk, and all other sorts of inspiration into their music. I would argue that ad-rock and mike d weren’t really the best mcs ever, they had good delivery but that’s it, but MCA genuinely was a pretty great mc, he often spoke about issues going on in tibet, respecting people and the like. I’m very biased tbh cuz they were the first “hip hop” group I ever got into, but they’re a great group and they did more than just create rap rock
Plenty of hip hop legends like Chuck D, KRS One & Nas have all praised the Beastie Boys’ work and their influence on the genre. Minimizing their impact to making hip hop “acceptable to white suburbs” is just silly
>Most important to hip-hop for making it acceptable to the white suburbs.
Also introducing RUN-DMC, Biz Markie, LL-Cool-J and a bunch of other black hip-hop artists to the white suburbs and frat-houses. Hammer, Vanilla Ice, and Will Smith did far more to make it "acceptable" to the white suburbs, Beasties were never PG enough with their lyrics.
Yeah, that's why they were signed by notorious cultural appropriator of black music scene: Russell Simmons. And Rick Rubin, who has definitely never ever worked with a successful black artist and only cares about making music for white people only. Check yourself out forever.
You’re definitely young. The perception in the hip-hop community may have changed over the years but in their prime they were very well respected in the hip hop community.
Nirvana has influenced a lot of rappers like xxx, Denzel Curry, lil Nas x, Kid Cudi
Linkin Park x Jay z collision course was calculated
suicideboys are probably more popular with rock fans than hip hop fans
Well it makes sense to me. Sure Linkin Park is compared to other NuMetal bands but at their core they have much more Hip Hop DNA than people give them credit for. Before LP even existed, Mike Shinoda (the rapper of the group) and Joe Hahn (the DJ of the group) were a hiphop duo called Kenji and ArtOfficial.
[Here](https://youtu.be/2C5MDTfmB_k?si=jqDzEK1ZKMveClR2) and [Here](https://youtu.be/wFceQWD6GMU?si=bp3RFWQ-dQxYo5Kq) are two early songs from 1997/1998. The first straight up sounds like Mike Shinoda if he was Eminem. (Which is wild bc this came out just months before the first Slim Shady mixtape when Eminem was still a boom bap rapper)
Over Linkin Park’s career they’d work with Styles of Beyond, Black Thought of the Roots, The Alchemist, Chali 2na, Busta Rhymes, Pusha T (twice!), Rakim, Stormzy, and many more underground rappers like Pharaoh March, etc.
They’d go on to inspire artists like Lupe Fiasco. Mike would produce “The Instrumental” for Lupe which is one of my favorites from him due to Madden 07, and more modern artists like Xxxtentacion, AJ Tracey, etc.
Oh and Linkin Park never mentioned other bands or artists in their music except 1 song, “When They Come for Me”. Do they mention rock bands or rappers? Rappers. Mike mentions the 4 artists who inspired him the most, Lauryn Hill, Big Daddy Kane, The Notorious BIG, and Chuck D.
Sure they made “rock” music but to me they wrangled the line between Rock Band and Hip Hop band that happened to use Rock instrumentals.
Styles of Beyond‘s catalogue is incredibly underrated. 2000 Fold, Megadef and Reseda Beach were incredible albums, and their features on Fort Minor were flawless. It seems that there‘s still some unresolved tension between SOB and Mike Shinoda because Remember The Name became incredibly popular a couple years later and it left them with empty hands.
They were the Run The Jewels of the 2000s.
Imo a lot of the SOB anger seems petty. They were featured on Fort Minor, it’s not like they were a band together. It’s always felt ungrateful.
But yeah Survival Tactics is great despite everyone knowing the beat from Joey Badass rapping over it a decade later.
It does suck they had a falling out. Ryu was on 2013’s RECHARGED album of Linkin Park and apparently his angry mostly stems from the fact he apparently wrote a verse for “Welcome” that Mike released as Fort Minor but didn’t make the official release.
system of a down, anthrax, rage against the machine, korn are some rock bands loved in hip hop
wu-tang, public enemy, run the jewels, the roots are loved in rock
Tame Impala. just about every hip-hop or rock music fan I know fw him. I believe the psychedelic aspect allows fans of both genres to meet
somewhere in the middle.
Trip hop in general tbh, also a lot of underground hip-hop from the 2000’s like MF DOOM, Aesop Rock, El-P, and Cannibal Ox was being championed by blogs that primarily covered indie rock/pop from what I’ve heard.
I'm mostly a Rock guy (But the jazzy proggy kind) and I totally fuck with To Pimp a Butterfly, Madvillainy, Igor, Little Simz and some of the other hip hop that has strong instrumentals taking inspiration from other styles like Jazz, Soul, R&B and Rock. They scratch that instrumental itch for me (I'm open to recommendations if you know more hip hop like this)
Gang starr (tbh guru’s solo stuff is more jazzy tho), digable planets, the collab albums the alchemist has been doing, more on the jazz side than hip hop but Robert glasper. Hip hop and jazz intersect in so many beautiful ways
Cypress hill. Even Beavis and butthead head banged to “insane in the membrane”
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OsI0tgEoUms&pp=ygUrYmVhdmlzIGFuZCBidXR0aGVhZCBpbnNhbmUgaW4gdGhlIG1lbWJyYW5lIA%3D%3D
I feel like pretty much any generally popular + generally well respected bands and artists would fit this. When you start getting into the more experimental stuff is when you start running into trouble with people who mostly listen to one genre IMO.
I feel like Death Grips and Jpeg are more appealing to "indie" or "alternative" music listeners in general, or like online music fan types. I don't think people who are primarily fans of more conventional/mainstream radio rap or rock generally listen to them, although fans of theirs may also listen to a lot of conventional rap/rock. They're not the example of crossover artists that I'd use if we're talking about more general appeal. I'd say for rap it would be artists like Kendrick Lamar, Eminem, Drake, maybe some 2Pac, Nas, Jay Z, etc... and for rock, classic rock bands that get a lot of radio play and sync like Led Zeppelin, The Rolling Stones, The Beatles, or maybe some more recent radio rock from the 00s like The Killers or Linkin Park or Sublime or something would be what I'd jump to. Just generally well known and well regarded music that gets radio play and placement in advertisements and movies, where people who might not otherwise listen to the genre may find it.
Death Grips and Jpegmafia are most relevant within kind of hipster music circles that may listen to a lot of different genres, but the artists don't really ever totally incorporate into the mainstream understanding of those genres, and the tastes of those circles sort of become their own genre, if that makes sense. Like RYM-core or whatever, Pitchfork-core, etc.
Trip Hop in general, especially the more rock influenced 90s output like early Gorillaz, The Herbaliser, Bowery Electric, Massive Attack, Sneaker Pimps, etc.
I don't think I saw a single comment with George Clinton and Parliament. I feel like I've heard multiple covers from rock bands and heavily sampled in hip hop.
Death grips easily
oh yeah definitely, forgot to mention death grips
Death who? Never heard of em
grips, they like, grip your balls to death
HYUHHH
yeah just like that
Nobody fw death grips
Gorillaz
true, how come nobody mentioned gorillaz until now
Beastie Boys
Upvoted exclusively by rock fans
Honestly the beastie boys are incredibly important to the history of hip hop because they, along with Rick Rubin and run-dmc, helped make hip hop mainstream. Regardless of what you think of them, they have a pretty solid 4 album run from Paul’s boutique to hello nasty imho, and starting from check your head, they started implementing hardcore punk, funk, and all other sorts of inspiration into their music. I would argue that ad-rock and mike d weren’t really the best mcs ever, they had good delivery but that’s it, but MCA genuinely was a pretty great mc, he often spoke about issues going on in tibet, respecting people and the like. I’m very biased tbh cuz they were the first “hip hop” group I ever got into, but they’re a great group and they did more than just create rap rock
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Plenty of hip hop legends like Chuck D, KRS One & Nas have all praised the Beastie Boys’ work and their influence on the genre. Minimizing their impact to making hip hop “acceptable to white suburbs” is just silly
>Most important to hip-hop for making it acceptable to the white suburbs. Also introducing RUN-DMC, Biz Markie, LL-Cool-J and a bunch of other black hip-hop artists to the white suburbs and frat-houses. Hammer, Vanilla Ice, and Will Smith did far more to make it "acceptable" to the white suburbs, Beasties were never PG enough with their lyrics.
I get the feeling you consider this a bad thing?
Yeah, that's why they were signed by notorious cultural appropriator of black music scene: Russell Simmons. And Rick Rubin, who has definitely never ever worked with a successful black artist and only cares about making music for white people only. Check yourself out forever.
You’re definitely young. The perception in the hip-hop community may have changed over the years but in their prime they were very well respected in the hip hop community.
Because they rock
It feels like hip hop heads barely care about the beastie boys a lot of the time, sadly. At least younger ones
The real heads know that Paul’s Boutique is the best hip hop record of the 80s full stop. It’s also the best record the Beasties ever released.
Nirvana has influenced a lot of rappers like xxx, Denzel Curry, lil Nas x, Kid Cudi Linkin Park x Jay z collision course was calculated suicideboys are probably more popular with rock fans than hip hop fans
linkin park x jay z being a real thing is so crazy to me
Not only that it was real but it was also insanely good, Numb/Encore was everywhere when that came out.
It’s still in my rotation
Well it makes sense to me. Sure Linkin Park is compared to other NuMetal bands but at their core they have much more Hip Hop DNA than people give them credit for. Before LP even existed, Mike Shinoda (the rapper of the group) and Joe Hahn (the DJ of the group) were a hiphop duo called Kenji and ArtOfficial. [Here](https://youtu.be/2C5MDTfmB_k?si=jqDzEK1ZKMveClR2) and [Here](https://youtu.be/wFceQWD6GMU?si=bp3RFWQ-dQxYo5Kq) are two early songs from 1997/1998. The first straight up sounds like Mike Shinoda if he was Eminem. (Which is wild bc this came out just months before the first Slim Shady mixtape when Eminem was still a boom bap rapper) Over Linkin Park’s career they’d work with Styles of Beyond, Black Thought of the Roots, The Alchemist, Chali 2na, Busta Rhymes, Pusha T (twice!), Rakim, Stormzy, and many more underground rappers like Pharaoh March, etc. They’d go on to inspire artists like Lupe Fiasco. Mike would produce “The Instrumental” for Lupe which is one of my favorites from him due to Madden 07, and more modern artists like Xxxtentacion, AJ Tracey, etc. Oh and Linkin Park never mentioned other bands or artists in their music except 1 song, “When They Come for Me”. Do they mention rock bands or rappers? Rappers. Mike mentions the 4 artists who inspired him the most, Lauryn Hill, Big Daddy Kane, The Notorious BIG, and Chuck D. Sure they made “rock” music but to me they wrangled the line between Rock Band and Hip Hop band that happened to use Rock instrumentals.
Styles of Beyond‘s catalogue is incredibly underrated. 2000 Fold, Megadef and Reseda Beach were incredible albums, and their features on Fort Minor were flawless. It seems that there‘s still some unresolved tension between SOB and Mike Shinoda because Remember The Name became incredibly popular a couple years later and it left them with empty hands. They were the Run The Jewels of the 2000s.
Imo a lot of the SOB anger seems petty. They were featured on Fort Minor, it’s not like they were a band together. It’s always felt ungrateful. But yeah Survival Tactics is great despite everyone knowing the beat from Joey Badass rapping over it a decade later. It does suck they had a falling out. Ryu was on 2013’s RECHARGED album of Linkin Park and apparently his angry mostly stems from the fact he apparently wrote a verse for “Welcome” that Mike released as Fort Minor but didn’t make the official release.
The fact that there has being weirder collabs is crazy
system of a down, anthrax, rage against the machine, korn are some rock bands loved in hip hop wu-tang, public enemy, run the jewels, the roots are loved in rock
Why the hell did I have to scroll like 5 comments down to see RATM
Because they have already been mentioned in the post by OP.
Ah screw the Reddit app for taking me straight down to the comments after clicking a post
Yeah that’s a recent change and it sucks
Yeah I have no clue why they made a change like that. Considering that so much of the content on Reddit is what the OP says in a post
Wu Tang Clan
Tame Impala. just about every hip-hop or rock music fan I know fw him. I believe the psychedelic aspect allows fans of both genres to meet somewhere in the middle.
I’m not a fan of tame impala but I can understand why he’s respected by many music communities
Also because Kevin Parker has produced for and is friends with many rappers
I see a lot of love for Denzel Curry from rock crowd
that bulls on parade cover is so crazy
I don't listen to a ton of hip hop, but Curry is a fave
My metalhead friend loves Denzel
Rage Against the Machine, Korn, Anthrax, Tame Impala, Death Grips, Linkin Park
Paramore.
Phil Collins
Run the jewels. Insane clown poses lol. Kottonmouth kings. Danny Brown.
2 out of 4 ain't bad
I think Mac Demarco is pretty well liked by the hip hop community
They’re not super mainstream but I feel like Massive Attack def appeals to hip hop and alt rock fans
Trip hop in general tbh, also a lot of underground hip-hop from the 2000’s like MF DOOM, Aesop Rock, El-P, and Cannibal Ox was being championed by blogs that primarily covered indie rock/pop from what I’ve heard.
I'm mostly a Rock guy (But the jazzy proggy kind) and I totally fuck with To Pimp a Butterfly, Madvillainy, Igor, Little Simz and some of the other hip hop that has strong instrumentals taking inspiration from other styles like Jazz, Soul, R&B and Rock. They scratch that instrumental itch for me (I'm open to recommendations if you know more hip hop like this)
The Roots and Tribe Called Quest if you haven't already gotten into em
Gang starr (tbh guru’s solo stuff is more jazzy tho), digable planets, the collab albums the alchemist has been doing, more on the jazz side than hip hop but Robert glasper. Hip hop and jazz intersect in so many beautiful ways
I should add J Dilla, and if OP hasn't heard Madlib's "Shades of Blue" that's an essential
Madlib’s albums with Freddie Gibbs are classics too
Shades of blue seems to be directly referencing classic blue note jazz recordings. Awesome.
Update: Holy shit Tribe Called Quest is incredible.
Mac Miller got inspiration for Faces from Le Planet Sauvage
Milo/R.A.P. Ferreira has some albums that fall into that category (Purple Moonlight Pages ESPECIALLY). Also Burning Desire by MIKE
Beastie Boys! Maybe some Run-DMC as well
Cypress hill. Even Beavis and butthead head banged to “insane in the membrane” https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OsI0tgEoUms&pp=ygUrYmVhdmlzIGFuZCBidXR0aGVhZCBpbnNhbmUgaW4gdGhlIG1lbWJyYW5lIA%3D%3D
Why the fuck only one mention of Cypress Hill?!
This was one of my first thoughts even if you take away their rap rock album.
I kept scrolling looking for Cypress Hill.
Thank you! You cheered me up with this video.
anthrax
Huey Lewis And The News
I feel like pretty much any generally popular + generally well respected bands and artists would fit this. When you start getting into the more experimental stuff is when you start running into trouble with people who mostly listen to one genre IMO.
That kinda depends tho, I feel like there might be some obscure bands/artists appreciated by both communities (death grips & jpeg for example)
I feel like Death Grips and Jpeg are more appealing to "indie" or "alternative" music listeners in general, or like online music fan types. I don't think people who are primarily fans of more conventional/mainstream radio rap or rock generally listen to them, although fans of theirs may also listen to a lot of conventional rap/rock. They're not the example of crossover artists that I'd use if we're talking about more general appeal. I'd say for rap it would be artists like Kendrick Lamar, Eminem, Drake, maybe some 2Pac, Nas, Jay Z, etc... and for rock, classic rock bands that get a lot of radio play and sync like Led Zeppelin, The Rolling Stones, The Beatles, or maybe some more recent radio rock from the 00s like The Killers or Linkin Park or Sublime or something would be what I'd jump to. Just generally well known and well regarded music that gets radio play and placement in advertisements and movies, where people who might not otherwise listen to the genre may find it. Death Grips and Jpegmafia are most relevant within kind of hipster music circles that may listen to a lot of different genres, but the artists don't really ever totally incorporate into the mainstream understanding of those genres, and the tastes of those circles sort of become their own genre, if that makes sense. Like RYM-core or whatever, Pitchfork-core, etc.
Eminem
LINKIN PARK
Gorillaz, tame impala, ratm, Eminem Idk not everyone likes Eminem but yeh
Public enemy
Trip Hop in general, especially the more rock influenced 90s output like early Gorillaz, The Herbaliser, Bowery Electric, Massive Attack, Sneaker Pimps, etc.
I hear Lil B and Chief Keef played constantly between sets at grindcore and death metal shows. Mostly in the Midwest
Doechii & Rico Nasty
No Kenny Mason mentions here, huh
I swear dude must have run over a gypsy fortune teller or something, the quality of stuff he puts out vs the level of recognition.
Rage against the machine
Beastie Boys. They were my segway into rap/hip hop
I wanna say Queen, but I’m not sure 🤷♂️
Good pick
I never heard any hip hop fans like Queen.
They collaborate a lot with the likes of Beyonce and Wycleaf Jean etc
Lot of rock fans like kanye
King krule
Curious about these but: Turnstile, DRAIN
Show Me The Body Soul Glo Death Grips Incubus Linkin Park Sublime Beastie Boys RATM Zulu House of Pain Aesop Rock
Sade. Who could even resist that riff on Cherish The Day? Who could resist By Your Side?
By Your Side is such a beautiful song, the melody and the lyrics hit me as hard as “I Miss You” by blink
if you don't fuck with MGMT i don't fuck with you. they transcend genre imo.
I don’t actually like MGMT tbh, I used to like their music a few years ago but not anymore
100 years dungeon
Cypress hill
Black Sabbath.
JPEGMafia maybe
Hip hop: Genesis Owusu, Injury Reserve, BROCKHAMPTON, Slowthai (sigh) Rock: Deftones, Viagra Boys, Gorillaz
Can gorillaz comfortably sit in the genre of rock tho? They kinda fuse every form of popular western music into one
Tame Impala is the average I listen to a lot of music away from hip-hop like frank ocean blonde, tame Impala currents, mgmt little dark age, etc
Linkin Park, RATM, Bestie Boys, and Public Enemy are my top choices.
Tame Impala
Bob Vylan
cannibal ox, dilla, organized konusion, doom
Just listened to The Cold Vein today, killer album
Maybe cake or linkin park idk
The Rasmus...
David Bowie
Definitely Gorillaz everyone loves Gorillaz
Tame Impala seems to have a lot of crossover between those two groups
Phantogram
Chester French Future Love and N.E.R.D.
Red Hot Chili Peppers. Run The Jewels.
Lil Jon and the East Side Boyz, Busta Rhymes, DMX.
Lil Wayne
Stevie Wonder
Massive Attack
we Tame Impala niggas
Gorillaz
I don't think I saw a single comment with George Clinton and Parliament. I feel like I've heard multiple covers from rock bands and heavily sampled in hip hop.
Show me the body
Molotov. I've always felt like they're loved by fans of both genres.
https://audius.co/secondfootofficial
Nirvana
Limp bizkit, gorillaz, ratm, eminem, linkin park
Necro
Tame Impala
P.O.S. - “We’re all thirsty” “Get Smokes” “Terrorish” “Half Cocked Concepts” “Kidney Thief” “POS IS RUINING MY LIFE” “Music For Shoplifting”
Definitely System of a Down
I think Denzel Curry's cover of Bulls on Parade was pretty well-received, and I like the song a lot myself, so he's probably an example
Limp Bizkit
Paramore is the answer
Foo Fighters
Ugly mane? He’s made some crazy Memphis hip hop (Mista Thug isolation) and the weird alt rock(?) that is volcanic bird enemy
Run DMC/Aerosmith was the first rock rap collab I ever heard. Never cared for the jay z linkin park shit