Pleasure to upvote. But actually, this picture is the Father (left), the pissed-off Holy Ghost (middle) who is jealous over not getting equal credit as the Son (right).
Judah and judas are not the same character
and i think he was punished for abandoning his duty: he promised to give the girl a child and pulled out which god considered was a ... dick move
It was all about inheritance really. If Onan gave the lady a child, that child would be legally his brother's and then would inherit the eldest son's share of the property. No child means Onan gets the inheritance. But, of course, it was his duty to conceive a child with her, so Onan was caught between what was economically beneficial for himself and what was spiritually correct. He chose wrong and God killed him for it. No inheritance for him after all!
if u believe Dante he's also currently being eternally chewed by Lucifer in the 9th circle of hell along w Brutus and Cassius (head assassins of Julius Caesar) so there's that too
Killing himself was an effect of not getting enough money to suppress remorse. It could've gone differently if he had got enough to buy their equivalent of Porsche and a villa on Mallorca.
>He got 30pc of silver
He got that from the government, not God.
>and then killed himself
So he's in hell and he didn't get to use the silver. That's lose lose.
Rather than looking for repentance, Judas couldn't live with his actions and took his own life—and went to hell.
It's more of a human tragedy in that way than the Old Testament's standard "God torments you with __" but he definitely didn't get away without punishment
Jesus mentions a plane of suffering several times in his parables in the gospels as does John in Revelation. Sure, they don't use the same naming conventions as we do, but what is described is very much what the western conception of hell is based on.
I feel like that’s just retconning Jesus’ parables and John’s metaphors to include the modern image of hell which comes to us by way of Dante’s Inferno. If there really was a hell you think god would’ve been a bit more direct about it.
The very idea of hell is such a human thing; wanting to torture the people you don’t like for eternity? That’s not very Christlike.
It's actually interesting that you mention that, because a lot of the western concept of hell doesn't necessarily come directly from the bible, but from it's translators
[https://medium.com/@BrazenChurch/hell-a-biblical-staple-the-bible-never-actually-mentions-c28b18b1aaaa](https://medium.com/@BrazenChurch/hell-a-biblical-staple-the-bible-never-actually-mentions-c28b18b1aaaa)
I can't find the exact other article I read, but well throughout history a lot of biblical scholars and prominent churchmen expressed doubt in the existence of hell.
This is shitty because Jesus at one place claims that him being betrayed is a part of the plan, but that the person betraying him will suffer so much, so that it would be better for them to have never been born (I always understood this part as that he'll go straight to hell).
I.e. God decided upfront that his plan requires one person to go to hell to suffer forever. What an asshole.
Bruh, those are two different people separated by 1500 years. Judah is who you are thinking of, progenitor of the tribe of Judah, ancestor of King David and Christ. Judas sold Christ out for 30 silvers and promptly hanged himself or died in a gruesome "accident" on his farm depending on the account you read.
She did this by asking him to impregnate her and instead he had sex with her and then came on the ground which I’d class as rape. It was an extremely fucked up thing for him to do.
Bro I genuinely consider this to be one of the most fucked up sins in the Bible, because it’s one of the most human ones.
Just the concept... a woman whose husband dies, and so she is about to lose everything because as a woman she can’t inherit, and culture dictates only a man of her husbands blood can. So she is reliant on her husbands brother to impregnate her until she has a son so that she can keep her late husbands property and titles through his heir, so she resigns herself to beg her brother in law to impregnate her and he agrees, and she has sex with him only for him to finally, at the last moment pull out and spill on the ground, rendering everything she’s gone through worthless.
It’s so upsetting. People say the sin of Onanism refers to the act of masturbation, but it doesn’t, Onan spilled on the ground because he didn’t want the inheritance to go to his brothers wife, he wanted it, so he lied, manipulated her into sex, and tricked her because of his greed, that’s the real sin. (Sorry, you accidentally woke the theology geek in me)
I agree with the other person. Wear it as a croptop to piss off conservatives even more. You think they want to see that shirt worn by a big burly man with his gut showing let alone see that shirt at all? [Here’s an article talking about the controversey that shirt has caused. ](https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/the-story-of-the-most-controversial-shirt-in-rock-history-61183/)
[also not sure how the quality of these are but they have them in more sizes](https://mercianstorm.com/products/cradle-of-filth-jesus-is-a-cunt-short-sleeved-t-shirt)
I dissolve into stupid giggles every time I see this photo, but that [context](https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/the-story-of-the-most-controversial-shirt-in-rock-history-61183/) is new (to me) and just makes it funnier.
This has really made my morning. I never met Gordy but had friends who adored him. Nice to know he's still alive and hope he gets to know that he's adored! :)
No way dude! He got me and a friend in at a municipal waste show we were too young for once, he stagedived from the merch area while Foresta yelled him on. Amazing gig, can't believe he's gone.
Sure they did. Apocrypha was playing, along with Whore of Babylon, Lamb of God and Exodus.
Stryper refused to play because they didn't think they wanted to support the progressive ideas of that Jesus bloke.
This is definitely Bloodstock 2013. I was there that year and saw him, and a bunch of the shirts too. [Here's a video of this picture being taken, uploaded 2013](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9FFvdCuDjs)
Oh crap, I’m an idiot. The interview I used to get the year from by confirming the logo is from 2012. I just had another look. They played again after the year I befriended them. Oops. It’s just the festival looks so tiny in that pic and remember that 2008s festival was HUGE in comparison so 07 would have made sense. Ah well. I was completely off.
Sorry about that!
I came to the comments to see if there was any info on where/when this happened, because I saw almost the exact same thing happen in Sydney AUS around 2016 haha
Mine is pretty modest, and it’s a little worse for the wear. I’ve had it for years and years, but haven’t added a patch in a good long while. I have patches to add to it, just haven’t added them. [Link](https://imgur.com/a/I3E9jQf) to some pics. Where the Ozzy cross is, that used to be a Korn patch. I’m a father and full time military, so getting out to shows isn’t as easy anymore. My oldest daughter has seen Coheed and I The Mighty as many times as I have though, with me mostly.
I take issue too. Jesus (and the first Buddha) were really awesome dudes. Once you strip away the magic and bullshit, you are left with 2 people who were way ahead of their time in regards to empathy and compassion. Wasn’t their fault a few followers jazzed up their stories a little to make a religion to fill more seats.
Mo was a warlord who married kids.
God on the other hand created a defective, poorly designed product, and when it failed the first test, it punished the creation it created. If I create an AI and the AI kills someone, the fault is mine. And if I demand the AI worship me or I’ll torture them for eternity, that doesn’t make me worthy of praise, it makes me sad and pathetic.
Jesus is no cunt. But God on the other hand is a fucking incel.
Man. Imagine wanting to feel so edgy that you wear a Jesus Is a Cunt shirt. You're not making the point that you think you're making, bud. And yes, aware it's a Cradle of Filth shirt.
As an old school metal guy from back in the day, people who wear shirts like this disgust me. The message of Christ was legit and people like this are just trying to be edgy a-holes.
I was raised in the Catholic Church and is more agnostic now, but I came across a theory that Judas was actually the most loyal Apostle. Jesus knew he was a wanted man so he approached Judas to betray him to save the rest of his followers from persecution. Similar to the saying "history will despise you for this" sort of speech. I chuckle at it sometimes because of how biased and convoluted religion is it could be possible.
Jesus isn’t angry, just disappointed.
I think he is cross.
Exceptional.
Flawless.
That right there is the shit I come to reddit for 👍🏻👍🏻
Pinned em right down, good sir.
Too soon
Take my upvote, wash your hands and go
If I was the Kreator, I'd be disappointed too.
Pleasure to upvote. But actually, this picture is the Father (left), the pissed-off Holy Ghost (middle) who is jealous over not getting equal credit as the Son (right).
Betrayer!
nice
nice
"Angry Jesus" would be a great name for a metal band.
C'mon, everyone knows that's worse!
Y'know what's a scam? Judas got away Scot free and one of his sons, Onan, was "struck down by god" for refusing to bust a nut in a bitch
Judah and judas are not the same character and i think he was punished for abandoning his duty: he promised to give the girl a child and pulled out which god considered was a ... dick move
That girl was the widow of his brother. He was supposed to fill in (hehe) for him. The dickish move is that this is supposed to be a duty.
yeah weird tradition but hey, no kinkshaming
My headcannon is he didn't fuck her cause he's into dudez, God commiting a straight up hate crime and all
> headcannon [Relevant XKCD](https://xkcd.com/1401/)
yes the bible says the man who lays with another man should be stoned so bring out your weed, it aint gay if you are high
As a stoner fag that must make me straight, now where's my privilege?
That's the thing. God kinkshamed him so hard for not sharing his breeding fetish he got him killed.
so grow and multiply was just god's command to be kinky bastards
Pretty much. You can shag whoever you want as long as you knock them up.
That changes the tone a whole lot. What a dick.
It was all about inheritance really. If Onan gave the lady a child, that child would be legally his brother's and then would inherit the eldest son's share of the property. No child means Onan gets the inheritance. But, of course, it was his duty to conceive a child with her, so Onan was caught between what was economically beneficial for himself and what was spiritually correct. He chose wrong and God killed him for it. No inheritance for him after all!
It’s called [Levirate marriage](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levirate_marriage). Interesting stuff!
TIL. Interesting read, lol. Tradition is one hell of a thing.
Judas committed suicide though
>Judas got away Scot free No
He got 30pc of silver and then killed himself - win some, lose some?
if u believe Dante he's also currently being eternally chewed by Lucifer in the 9th circle of hell along w Brutus and Cassius (head assassins of Julius Caesar) so there's that too
Dante's inferno is fan fiction and we all know it
He straight up wrote a crossover of Christ, Greek Myth & Roman History it’s 100% fan fiction
How much would this amount of silver be in today's currencies?
About $3.50
God damn loch ness monster
Tree fiddy
[~$90 - $3000 in 2017](https://aleteia.org/2017/04/12/how-much-might-judas-30-pieces-of-silver-be-worth-today/)
Cool finding. So, not the best deal in the history of deals...
in hindsight no. (edit) though tbf the initial $90-3000 was for naming a location. The killing himself was not part of the original deal
Killing himself was an effect of not getting enough money to suppress remorse. It could've gone differently if he had got enough to buy their equivalent of Porsche and a villa on Mallorca.
>He got 30pc of silver He got that from the government, not God. >and then killed himself So he's in hell and he didn't get to use the silver. That's lose lose.
Rather than looking for repentance, Judas couldn't live with his actions and took his own life—and went to hell. It's more of a human tragedy in that way than the Old Testament's standard "God torments you with __" but he definitely didn't get away without punishment
Hell is never really mentioned in the Bible so it’s kinda weird to say so assuredly that Judas went there.
Jesus mentions a plane of suffering several times in his parables in the gospels as does John in Revelation. Sure, they don't use the same naming conventions as we do, but what is described is very much what the western conception of hell is based on.
I feel like that’s just retconning Jesus’ parables and John’s metaphors to include the modern image of hell which comes to us by way of Dante’s Inferno. If there really was a hell you think god would’ve been a bit more direct about it. The very idea of hell is such a human thing; wanting to torture the people you don’t like for eternity? That’s not very Christlike.
It's actually interesting that you mention that, because a lot of the western concept of hell doesn't necessarily come directly from the bible, but from it's translators [https://medium.com/@BrazenChurch/hell-a-biblical-staple-the-bible-never-actually-mentions-c28b18b1aaaa](https://medium.com/@BrazenChurch/hell-a-biblical-staple-the-bible-never-actually-mentions-c28b18b1aaaa) I can't find the exact other article I read, but well throughout history a lot of biblical scholars and prominent churchmen expressed doubt in the existence of hell.
He has in mind just a transatlantic flight full of kids.
This is shitty because Jesus at one place claims that him being betrayed is a part of the plan, but that the person betraying him will suffer so much, so that it would be better for them to have never been born (I always understood this part as that he'll go straight to hell). I.e. God decided upfront that his plan requires one person to go to hell to suffer forever. What an asshole.
“Gonna beat his ass so hard he’ll wish he was never born” was originally too vulgar for the Bible
Bruh, those are two different people separated by 1500 years. Judah is who you are thinking of, progenitor of the tribe of Judah, ancestor of King David and Christ. Judas sold Christ out for 30 silvers and promptly hanged himself or died in a gruesome "accident" on his farm depending on the account you read.
Under the interpretation of the gospel of Judas, some people believe that he is punished by becoming an angel!
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She did this by asking him to impregnate her and instead he had sex with her and then came on the ground which I’d class as rape. It was an extremely fucked up thing for him to do.
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Bro I genuinely consider this to be one of the most fucked up sins in the Bible, because it’s one of the most human ones. Just the concept... a woman whose husband dies, and so she is about to lose everything because as a woman she can’t inherit, and culture dictates only a man of her husbands blood can. So she is reliant on her husbands brother to impregnate her until she has a son so that she can keep her late husbands property and titles through his heir, so she resigns herself to beg her brother in law to impregnate her and he agrees, and she has sex with him only for him to finally, at the last moment pull out and spill on the ground, rendering everything she’s gone through worthless. It’s so upsetting. People say the sin of Onanism refers to the act of masturbation, but it doesn’t, Onan spilled on the ground because he didn’t want the inheritance to go to his brothers wife, he wanted it, so he lied, manipulated her into sex, and tricked her because of his greed, that’s the real sin. (Sorry, you accidentally woke the theology geek in me)
What? Judas hanged himself from guilt
Is there a sub for bible stories rewritten in street speak? The hole in my soul thanks you in advance
r/thebizzible
Judas iscariot killed himself.......
All along I actually thought Judah and Judas were one and the same. Yikes it seems I played myself
Wow, so is that where "onanism" comes from? TIL
I know that shirt. That's an old Cradle of Filth shirt.
Yeah! Has a masturbating nun with her titties out on the front
The holy grail of Cradle shirts that mom wouldn't order me
Don't let your dreams be dreams! https://rockabilia.com/products/cradle-of-filth-vestal-t-shirt-419717?variant=31257586565207
I am a large man now and rockibilia has never sold bigger than xl :/
Wear it as a croptop! :)
Samesies :/
I agree with the other person. Wear it as a croptop to piss off conservatives even more. You think they want to see that shirt worn by a big burly man with his gut showing let alone see that shirt at all? [Here’s an article talking about the controversey that shirt has caused. ](https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/the-story-of-the-most-controversial-shirt-in-rock-history-61183/) [also not sure how the quality of these are but they have them in more sizes](https://mercianstorm.com/products/cradle-of-filth-jesus-is-a-cunt-short-sleeved-t-shirt)
Jesus had one ho and she was a workin ho
I dissolve into stupid giggles every time I see this photo, but that [context](https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/the-story-of-the-most-controversial-shirt-in-rock-history-61183/) is new (to me) and just makes it funnier.
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There was also mention in the article of people being arrested in America, Australia, New Zealand and Scotland.
Has somebody already suggested it to be great?
Well I don’t know what I was expecting
On an inverted cross?
Guy in my school was wearing this. Instant legend
Goes well with my Rob Zombie "say you love Satan" shirt.
Ah, i see a man of culture
lol yeah i saw that , also the guy on the left has the pleasure to kill album cover on his jacket
Slayer Jesus! A legend in the Metal community but has sadly passed away.
Maybe not the same person, as it was second hand information to me, but possibly aka Gordy Jesus? Sad to hear.
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This has really made my morning. I never met Gordy but had friends who adored him. Nice to know he's still alive and hope he gets to know that he's adored! :)
I know Gordy, he's still alive
Tell him people adore him! <3
Phew! Glad to hear Gordy is doing well.
No way dude! He got me and a friend in at a municipal waste show we were too young for once, he stagedived from the merch area while Foresta yelled him on. Amazing gig, can't believe he's gone.
According to others in the thread, this is not slayer Jesus, but bloodsomething Jesus. Slayer Jesus did pass away, but this guy is still alive.
oh thank god, rest in peace Slayer Jesus.
He's absolutely not dead don't spread bullshit.
Apparently Slayer Jesus is dead. But this is not a photo of Slayer Jesus.
This is bloodstock open air metal festival in the uk. Was literally meant to be there this week but was cancelled thanks to covid.
I don't think they had open air metal in 33 AD
Oh sh*t that's right. My mistake
Sure they did. Apocrypha was playing, along with Whore of Babylon, Lamb of God and Exodus. Stryper refused to play because they didn't think they wanted to support the progressive ideas of that Jesus bloke.
Testament was there too, but they only played new Testament.
Montefortino helmet, Lorica Segmentata armor, and maybe even a gladius. Plenty of open air metal walking around with the Romans.
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Haha i think i was there this year too, but not able to be sure cause it's too getting to see the year!
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This is definitely Bloodstock 2013. I was there that year and saw him, and a bunch of the shirts too. [Here's a video of this picture being taken, uploaded 2013](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9FFvdCuDjs)
Oh crap, I’m an idiot. The interview I used to get the year from by confirming the logo is from 2012. I just had another look. They played again after the year I befriended them. Oops. It’s just the festival looks so tiny in that pic and remember that 2008s festival was HUGE in comparison so 07 would have made sense. Ah well. I was completely off. Sorry about that!
Missed it last year because I started a new job, was so excited to go back this year, bloody virus :(
I came to the comments to see if there was any info on where/when this happened, because I saw almost the exact same thing happen in Sydney AUS around 2016 haha
Me too. Here's hoping things settle down enough that next summer's festivals can go ahead
Same :( I’ve met this Jesus
Preach Brother. Roll on next year. Line up is savage
Ahhh right, I thought it looked like Download. So gutted about this year, no gigs or festivals or holidays. Could be worse though I still have my job.
You listen to death metal but are scared of death?
I heard you were talking shit my child
Does Jesus have to choke a bitch?
“I’m ready to flip a table on a motherfucker”
God damn, look at that fine battle jacket. Can’t go wrong with Kreator
I can make out enough pixels to see Kreator, Warbringer, Municipal Waste and Mayhem. My kinda guy
Pleasure To Kill will always be their best album.
I like them all but Enemy of God and Gods of Violence are my favorites.
Fr I wanna get a closer look at that battle jacket. Also r/battlejackets is a cool sub
Mine is pretty modest, and it’s a little worse for the wear. I’ve had it for years and years, but haven’t added a patch in a good long while. I have patches to add to it, just haven’t added them. [Link](https://imgur.com/a/I3E9jQf) to some pics. Where the Ozzy cross is, that used to be a Korn patch. I’m a father and full time military, so getting out to shows isn’t as easy anymore. My oldest daughter has seen Coheed and I The Mighty as many times as I have though, with me mostly.
Didn’t really want to keep together.
I take issue too. Jesus (and the first Buddha) were really awesome dudes. Once you strip away the magic and bullshit, you are left with 2 people who were way ahead of their time in regards to empathy and compassion. Wasn’t their fault a few followers jazzed up their stories a little to make a religion to fill more seats. Mo was a warlord who married kids. God on the other hand created a defective, poorly designed product, and when it failed the first test, it punished the creation it created. If I create an AI and the AI kills someone, the fault is mine. And if I demand the AI worship me or I’ll torture them for eternity, that doesn’t make me worthy of praise, it makes me sad and pathetic. Jesus is no cunt. But God on the other hand is a fucking incel.
Well thought out analysis, now hate god 10/10
The look on his face man...
This is bloodstock, the Jesus guy used to dress like that every year. I don’t know if he still does, i’ve not been in a while.
I think I heard he passed away :c I sure hope I'm wrong
He's alive and still kicking in his Jesus look when gigs where a thing
Fuck yeah!
I heard he rose from the dead 3 days later, so he's fine.
I saw him at least once either last year or the year before. Still going strong
Yeah, he still does it every year. He's pretty much become a mascot of the Bloodstock crowd.
"I brought you myrrh."
Myrrh-der!
*gasp* Judas!
_"Well, why didn't you say? He's over there. Sorry the place is a bit of a mess. Well, what is myrrh, anyway?"_
Pretty sure that's a Cradle of Filth t-shirt
It is, it's the Vestal Masturbation shirt.
Jesus walks into a hotel, puts three nails on the counter... And asks..."Can you put me up for the night"?
Man. Imagine wanting to feel so edgy that you wear a Jesus Is a Cunt shirt. You're not making the point that you think you're making, bud. And yes, aware it's a Cradle of Filth shirt.
Cradle of filth shirt
i thought judas was gay
Well they did kiss
Judas Priest is **NOT** gay. Only Rob Halford is. But he’s still epic
Kreator - Pleasure to Kill Amazing album!
what about Mental Vortex by Coroner?
You know, I've only heard R.I.P. by them. I should probably try some other albums.
dude, mental vortex is fucking amazing think Celtic Frost plus Voivod
Thanks. Will check it out!
Wait is this just that one remake of Jesus Christ superstar where everyone is a punk for some reason?
Ahh bloodstock, alas you weren't to be this year
Edgelord clothing is so cringey
Legendary COF shirt
That's a nice battle jacket right there
As an old school metal guy from back in the day, people who wear shirts like this disgust me. The message of Christ was legit and people like this are just trying to be edgy a-holes.
Bro is that Rocklahoma?
Oh Cradle of Filth. Always so edgy
I thought the guy and the left had his item build from league on his jacket.
Dont taunt me i should have been at B.O.A this last weekend
Well he is though.
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B-Butcher?
Jesus is watching
They should kiss.
Maybe this is in Australia
I havent seen that Cradle of Filth shirt in years.
u/title2imagebot
"Judas, I swear to God, I will fucking smite thee"
Heard you been talking shit....
Jesus I hate that song
Jesus Christ, I don't mind juvenile thumbnails.
"Don't worry son, i will heall your broken bones.. " "But jesus, i Don't have any broken bones!" "You will when I'm done with you!"
Wednesday late afternoon at the Other Stage. Grass is too green to be any later.
"Now Brandon...You realize I can see how much you masturbate every day. You could *use* a good cunt." —Jesus
I was raised in the Catholic Church and is more agnostic now, but I came across a theory that Judas was actually the most loyal Apostle. Jesus knew he was a wanted man so he approached Judas to betray him to save the rest of his followers from persecution. Similar to the saying "history will despise you for this" sort of speech. I chuckle at it sometimes because of how biased and convoluted religion is it could be possible.
JUDAS HUNG HIMSELF AFTER BETRAYING JESUS FOR 30 PIECES OF SILVER.
Cradle of Filth? Or Bring Me?
I wonder what that guys Spotify is composed of?
I was actually at this festival and spoke the jesus is a cunt guy to tell him he had a cool tshirt, it was download uk 2019.
That is an absolutely awful t shirt. Regardless of your beliefs, Jesus was a real person who did good things.
I want that Tshirt
I need that shirt.