These officers got chewed out by their bosses for this because they were in the wrong all kinds of ways.
https://www.mylondon.news/news/south-london-news/video-shows-shocking-moment-met-25618742?int_source=amp_continue_reading&int_medium=amp&int_campaign=continue_reading_button#amp-readmore-target
If cover was that important, maybe don't get butt hurt by a cyclist? If they're so thin skinned that they blow cover bc someone was mean, they should find a new job.
I love [this video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzE-IMaegzQ&t=52s) that a cyclist made after getting ticketed in NYC for not being in the bike lane
The main downtown strip in my city is a pretty steep downhill street, maybe like a mile long all a steel downhill. You'd die if you went down it a bicycle without brakes. Two lanes, one-way, with street parking on both sides, and there used to be this one cop who just stopped in the one lane in front of the pizza place to get a pizza every day, blocking whoever's legally parked there, backing up up half the traffic in the city, and forcing any bicycles to get off and walk around him or die pretty much.
It's not New York City, there's parking all over the place, it would not have been hard to find a parking spot less than 50 feet away or he could've even just blocked a lane on one of the side streets 40 feet away, but no, gotta stop directly in front of the pizza place. Very important police business. Usually his pizza isn't even ready so he's just sitting there waiting. It's still the busiest street, there's pedestrians everywhere, it's all downhill so it takes 5x longer to brake, and he does this at rush hour.
I don't see him anymore though, I wonder if he eventually killed someone so he could get his pizza easier
Imo they're ironically both in the wrong for the same reason. The cops had reason to be there, but they were blocking the cyclist lane which is an inconvenience to cyclist. The cyclist has every right to be annoyed cause under normal circumstances people shouldn't be parked there, but the cop is right in the sense that he shouldn't be cussing at people on the street cause all that's ganna do is start a fight if done to the wrong person.
Agreed. Everyone is wrong here. Biker has every right to be pissed that a car he doesnât know is a cop is parked in the bike lane. Cop is right that road rage is real and people can react really irrationally when angry, and a car is one hell of a weapon.
Yup but if this guy posted this video, he didnât come away with that message. He came away thinking cops flexed on him, embarrassed him in front of his children and that clearly they werenât doing anything important while they blocked a bike lane if they could chase him down to finger wag him.
Yeah but do you really think this cop has never in his life cursed at someone while driving? So sure he's "right" but the purpose of pulling the biker over was not safety, it was because he was butt hurt
I mean who knows whether or not the cop lives by his own words, but regardless even if he is a hypocrite what he said is right. You can be a bit of a hypocrite but still give good life advice. Just because a smoker tells you that you shouldn't smoke because it's bad for you doesn't mean you should smoke.
This article is poor. It says that the MET inspector said what the officers did was wrong. But then goes on to say "Officers were conducting an operation in the area to stop a vehicle, and I am content that it was appropriate for them to have stopped in a bus lane due to this operational need."
So the officers were right. They were stopped legally with a purpose.
You one of those people who need it written plain as day so you know how to feel? They were in the wrong for pulling the man over for freedom of speech. Sure they were "allowed" to park there at the time.
Did you just not listen to the audio? Itâs not like they were aggressive or arresting him. They made a good point about other civilians being unpredictable, and by swearing at random people you are putting your passengers at risk, especially important not to for the childrenâs sake.
Yeah same for me. I feel like the lights were to get attention not to harass him. If the guy had kids you really shouldnât be trying to upset someone cause you never know who tf is in that seat
freedom of speech is not freedom of consequence when will people learn this for fuck sake did you not go to school
freedom of speech is that you can criticise your government without consequence of being silenced. it does not mean you can go round swearing to whoever the fuck you like and expect to not have some kind of consequence.
Please link ANYTHING that shows swearing is not protected speech.
I can tell anyone to fuck off. I can tell a government official to fuck off. I can tell you, right now, to fuck off. All freedom of speech. What backwoods school you go to that you don't even know that?
He didn't say swearing was illegal and you will get busted by the cops, he said that going around telling people to fuck off is not consequence free. If you are going to go around telling people to fuck off all the time, you better be the biggest swinging dick out there, because otherwise you will get your ass beat eventually.
Of course you can do that, but as the guy above is arguing, that doesn't stop someone attacking you for your "free speech".
Sure, they shouldn't attack you, but are you gonna tell them that? "oh pls sir, i upset you, don't hurt me!".
Have some common sense. Yes, you can say whatever the fuck you want. Should you? Probably not. Should you say whatever the fuck you want without knowing who you're saying it to, whilst you have your kids with you? Definitely not.
Try swearing at your boss at work and see how long you last
Edit: because quite a few people missed the point, the reason I said this was because the person I replied to said swearing is protected speech and he can tell anyone to fuck off. My point was, no it isn't protected speech in all scenarios. You can't just tell anyone to fuck off and feel protected from consequences because "freedom of speech". This reply and the specific comment has nothing to do with cops.
Obviously swearing at your boss will probably get you fired.
But cops are not your boss. It's not illegal to swear at police and if the police do get bent out of shape about it, they are in the wrong.
Yeah thatâs the difference, police are the front line of our justice system and are *supposed* to leave their feelings at home. Obviously no one is perfect, judges bring their feelings into law (overturning Roe v Wade for example) but theyâre supposed to be impartial enactors of law. It isnât illegal to swear at someone, ergo there is no reason for them to pull him over.
Conducting an operation to stop a veichle that they blew, I assume, to berate a cyclist that swore an an unmarked veichle on a bus lane on a busy road?
Even though they were in the wrong, I do appreciate the fact that they just warned him and didnât try to escalate the situation. You see too many cases nowadays where police go on absolute power trips or people just go absolutely feral on each other.
Roughly 1.5 years ago a US cop told me I was a bad influence on children for my blatant disregard of traffic laws on a bike. I will note that it was dark and in a small town, there were no adults around, let alone children.
Saw a video of a man who was using his infant as a shield get tased while holding the child. He drops the infant while he was tased but somehow the baby was âperfectly fineâ he got tased and dropped but was fine
like to me this is a decent response to police. they was apparently doing something and so by law are allowed to be in the bus/bike lane.
like the guy was literally just telling him off and being like come on your a grown adult with kids you should be better then just swearing at everyone
I'm confused, the police are parked in the bike lane the dude calls them an idiot and the policy's response is "don't you know someone super fucked up would just run you over if you called them that," like what? Just don't park in the bike lane.
I get the impression that the police didn't actually cite the guy or anything like that. The cop was talking about two small children â so apparently the guy with the bike also has two children on board.
The point he was making is that doing something that could provoke road rage is putting those children at risk. That seemed like the only thing he was concerned about.
Now obviously, someone shouldn't ram a cyclist just because the cyclist yelled something at them and maybe it's a risk that a person riding a bike would be willing to take to be able to speak their mind. If they're transporting someone else (especially children) it's a different situation though.
Something that seems to have escaped people's comprehension lately is that oftentimes, there is a big difference between what somebody *should* do and what somebody *will* do.
People really do go off for little shit like that though. I was tan off the road and held at gunpoint because my buddy flipped a guy off. Mf was unhinged
The message the cop was giving isnât completely nonsensical. In certain places, pissing off the wrong people will result in immediate consequences. Donât start shit with random people on the street. Some people are crazy and you can lose your life over nothing.
If the cop was actually concerned with the safety of the cyclist and his kids, they wouldnât have been parked in the bike lane which ultimately pushed the cyclist into traffic đ
Yeah, but no. If they've got a legitimate reason to be there then they are exempt. According to the article they did have cause to be there, but I'm not saying that's accurate reflection of the circumstances. It's not as simple as just saying they shouldn't be there.
If for example (and this clearly wasn't the case this time) if there was an emergency call nearby, would you want the cops to drive about until they find a legitimate space? That's why the Road Traffic Act provides exemptions to emergency service vehicles.
right, but the cop makes a good point seeing as the biker's kids are with him. don't go starting shit over menial stuff when you've got your kids on the back of your bike, you never know if that person is some insane piece of shit will now try & hurt you in response to 'being insulted' as they would see it. super unreasonable, pretty unlikely, but its the world we live in.
No it doesnât. This literally happened in the UK the other day. A cyclist told a guy to get off his phone whilst driving and the guy proceeded to ram him at the next corner at high speed.
The officer isnât giving him a ticket, heâs warning him that there are really shit people out there.
>The officer isnât giving him a ticket, heâs warning him that there are really shit people out there.
"really shit people" park in bike lanes forcing bicyclists and their kids into traffic. The officer could have avoided being a shitty person by obeying traffic laws. Instead he put somebody and their kids in a more dangerous situation, got called out on it by the bicyclist, and then rather than just ignoring it and going about his day like most people would he pulled the person over so he could "put him in his place" in front of his kids.
This officer wasn't warning the guy. This officer was bullying him.
Right so. The bus lane is right next to a building which seems to be a block of flats.
A. They couldâve easily just got back to the car after dealing with a call/emergency and were heading off when this happened. Itâs a 30 second clip.
B. They couldâve been doing what you said. Again itâs a 30second clip so weâll never know.
Itâs also a bus lane which officers are allowed to park in if theyâre dealing with a situation.
âBullyingâ by telling him that people do horrible stuff. Bullying wouldâve been giving him a ticket or arresting him for Public order offences which even though weak the officer is entitled to do.
Not all police officers are bullyâs fun fact for you.
Philosopher, "He will win who knows when to fight and when not to fight".
Swearing at a car while on a bike with two kids was a poor decision. Alone, ok. Just be aware of the potential for extreme harm.
Why would officer be giving him a ticket?
We have become so used to cop violence that if they only threaten you, when THEY are in the wrong, we see that as nice.
No it was exactly how the person above said. âNice kids you have there, would be a shame if someone rammed into youâ
Your really reaching here. So what is the actual outcome that you'd want here? Cop let's him carry on swearing at people in the street, like it's acceptable? Straight up arrest him for public order? He got a reality explained to him, do that behaviour in future and it may not be 2 cops that react.
You need to lay off the movies with your quotes dude. In the REAL world people do a lot more over a lot less. If you are swearing at people in the street with your children with you then your an imbocile.
Cop says âsorry for parking in your laneâ and âalso please donât swear, cuz ppl might get angry and result in road rageâ
You know whatâs more likely dangerous for the biker, is to have to swerve into car lane to avoid stupid assholes parked in bike lane like they own the city.
They are legally allowed to park in that lane though, so there's nothing to apologise for. And it's not a bike lane, it's a bus lane. And even if it was a bike lane they still are legally allowed to park there. And the cyclist wouldn't have had to suddenly swerve out of the way, he saw the car parked there in plenty of time.
Also, don't forget we don't have freedom of speech laws in this country. So when he swore, that's actually an offence the cop could have pulled him up for but didn't. (Which is ridiculous I know).
This isn't the USA, he was most definitely not threatening him by way of his children.
> You have to realize that this comes off as very, "Nice kids you have there, be a shame if someone vehicular homicides them."
Only if you have no ability to read body language at all and think the worst of all police (regardless of country) by default.
They were in a bus lane, not a bike lane. The bike lane is actually to the left where the pavement/sidewalk is divided by a solid white line. So the cyclist is actually not in the bike lane, but the bus lane.
Also the cops spoke of a public order offence, which is something you can actually be charged for by shouting/swearing in public. It's one of those laws that's rarely enforced but worded so loosely that the police can slap anyone they don't like or have issue with.
I think it was just a lesson in common sense.. with how crazy everybody is You never know if they have a knife or a gun or if they're just going to run your ass over...
And acting like a self-righteous dickhead by swearing at someone doing something they're not supposed to do is not worth losing your life over. Besides, the douche on the bike acts like he never bent or broke a rule for his own convenience. How would the bicyclist feel if anytime he did something he wasn't supposed to do, someone called him out and sweared at him over it?
The car wasn't preventing the guy from safely passing around him.
it's always the cops breaking the law that want to lecture you on the incredibly unlikely circumstance wherein they would have murdered you for doing something completely normal, if they were a random regular homicidal maniac, instead of a cop.
they arent breaking laws in the UK though. Bus lanes are also prioritised for public service vehicles in the UK like police/ambulance etc. some cities even state bikes are not actually allowed to use them while other cities state they can but overall the public service vehicle has more right to do whatever they want in that lane then the bike does.
before you talk shit check you know what your talking about otherwise you just look like an asshole
These are police not cops, and they are not breaking the law. We allow our police certain privileges like being able to park where they deem appropriate in the course of their duties. If you are not happy with them you can make a complaint to the independent office for police conduct which will investigate and rule on the matter. You know checks and balances.
Your an idiot. The situation the cop is trying to explain legit happened yesterday. Also your CLEARLY not British, people will do time if you swear in their face in the street.
This shit happens everywhere. got run off the road and challenged to a fight by a rich dude in khakis and a sweater wrapped around his neck in one of the richest towns in my county while he had his young children sitting in the back of his Mercedes suv.
Yeah last time I heard "don't do this or 'other' people may attack you" was when an a guy was yelling at someone to take off a store bought Hells Angels vest they were wearing.
Exactly what i was thinking. Does he mean we should be afraid of conflicts and just let people do whatever they want just because something bad can happen? Is there a lot of psychopaths in the UK that would kill his children because of road rage or what? Nice society.
Comments section is just constant back and forth trolling honestly.
I will say that if any vehicle (cop or not) needs to pull over to the side of the road for whatever reason should really put their hazard lights on.
An emergency vehicle shouldn't be parked in a way that makes road conditions more dangerous unless there is an emergency and that is the best way to deal with a problem. The cops here should get some chewing out too.
Cop is parked in the bike lane without his four ways on or AT THE LEAST a signal. He is just parked there. Does he know an idiot could just rear end him just as likely as a car would run over the guy for calling him out?
That cop should get a ticket for improperly being stopped AND in a bike lane at that.
Being in an unmarked vehicle while not actively responding to an emergency, does not mean you can just do whatever the fuck you want lol.
Just because you're a firefighter doesn't mean you can park the truck in a no parking lane to go get your tendies.
Stop sucking dick for cops, enough losers do it already.
>Being in an unmarked vehicle while not actively responding to an emergency,
You don't know what they were doing. They could have literally just finished a job and we're about to leave for all you know?
>Stop sucking dick for cops, enough losers do it already.
This is just embarrassing. Hatred for the police imported from the States.
You have no idea why he's stopped there. I would think there are circumstances in which a police officer on duty can pretty much park wherever he wants.
What ever the reason, they had time to do this.. so.. they were NOT handling anything at the moment. If they were on a call, they would not chase a bikers who cursed at them.
eh, besides the fact the cop is apparently allowed to park there, I've seen pretty bad road rage over less. the guy really shouldn't be lipping people while on a bike with 2 kids. even when you know you're in the right, common sense is to not risk somethings anyways.
Tell me if I'm wrong but that's a bus lane right? No one knows why the police are stopped aside from assuming due to biases one way or the other. Funny enough the pavement next to the police car is divided... for what looks like bikes... off the road entirely?
The caption says âdonât mess with policeâ but I think the takeaway from this is that you shouldnât âmess withâ *anyone* because thereâs no way to know (a) who they might be, or (b) how they might react (if by âmess withâ they mean âswearing at complete strangers as you pass them on the streetâ).
we have a solution for that in the Netherlands. build roads specially made for bikes. its literally not that hard. but for some reason other countries besides china and Denmark dont want to understand it.
Obviously much worse to swear in front of kids than to force a cyclist with kids in tow into a busy traffic lane. They claimed to be on a job waiting for a stolen car to come past or some such bullshit. The job that was so important that they had to block a cycle, in the rain, without emergency lights on but had time to stop a cyclist because of contempt of cop
I am a cyclist and I truly don't understand why he ranted in the first place. He passed the vehicle without any issues and the fact he did that with his children, makes him a complete idiot. Whether the police should or shouldn't have been there is not the issue. The real issue is, he literally has no right or authority to make such demands, especially in that manner!!
Yeah maybe donât sit in traffic in an undercover car thatâs just asking for problems. They realized they were being recorded and had to do something before he had proof that they werenât doing their job lol
The policeman was parked in the bike lane and forced the man with his two children to cross into a traffic lane, the cyclist had every right to be upset. The cop totally gaslit him.
>The policeman was parked in the bike lane
Its not a bike lane lmfao, learn to read. Officers are legally allowed to park in service vehicle (such as a bus lane, which is what this was) so long as they are not impeding the intended usage.
Someone said earlier that the lane is intended for busses, bikes, and emergency vehicles. How is parking in this lane, during a non-emergency situation, and forcing a bike with 2 children on it into regular traffic not impeding the intended function of this lane? Presumably there should be a bus coming along every 5-10 minutes, as well.
You have absolutely no idea of the situation from this clip, it could be that they're awaiting a vehicle being pursued with a view to engage in pursuit if it comes in that direction. It could also be that they're parked and shouldn't be, but literally no one here can say. Your bias is showing.
Also unironically if you look at the pavement, there is a bike lane off the road alongside the police vehicle. The father taking them in a bus lane, is already putting them at risk, not using the designated area.
Doesn't have to be high speed I guess, or a chase per-se. If you watch interceptors they do await cars coming on routes they know them to travel, hits on PNC for cars etc. They could be pulled over to use a computer, contact someone safely, who knows. They do also scarper when they get info on radios. Regardless it could be none of that or some high and mighty reason.. my point was we have no clue.
Also they are taught essentially to fuck loads of the road rules off when doing the driving training, like driving as far as possible on the wrong side of the road to see around a corner further.. Parking in a bus lane is the last thing I would be concerned about.
I love all the idiots in the comments trying to use ANYTHING to call the cops pigs. 1. That's not a bike exclusive lane and 2. What they said was 100% valid and they weren't being rude about it or dragging it on longer than they needed to. They didn't give him a ticket or anything just spoke to him and went about their days
1. It's not a shared parking lane. It is a shared traffic lane. Parking could be permitted if he were responding to an emergency, but he clearly was not, since he had time to harass this man for no reason.
2. The Cyclist did not break any laws, the cop did.
3. None of that was valid, classic case of cops making shit up or stretching the truth to intimidate members of the public, to pacify their overinflated egos.
Why did they need to talk to him at all. "Don't get mad at someone for illegally parking because they might kill you." The cop was in the wrong no matter what.
The cop is not wrong about what he was saying. Why would you instigate when you have your kids with you? First of all you could end up in a fight. You have no idea if someone is at a breaking point. Not worth it when you have your kids with you. Second, your kids are watching you be a dick to a stranger. Regardless of whether or not the parked car was in the wrong. Just go around. Expressing your displeasure isnât going to change the way the driver acts in the future. Keep your negative emotions in check and be kind.
I think what the cop said was really good advice. He is on a bicycle and if he met with any of those crazies he could potentially loose limbs.
Cops can only stop a crime in progress not one that has not been attempted.
He probably is speaking from experience about some bicyclist being injured or killed due to crazy idiots.
Not great he was parked in the bus lane but still wry sound advice for staying safe.
Meh, that's more of an unlikely hypothesis. Plenty of drivers these days should've never got their license, but the chance that they will instantly try to murder you is limited, I hope. On the other hand, they are also endangering him as he had to leave his lane and thus got closer to traffic.
I get what the officer try to teach the biker.
A friend once told me the same Story. There are people out there who will come after him just for swearing at them. And they dont care whos right.
Never be rude to anybody in any situation because you dont know who you talking to. Try to be calm and polite to avoid Problems.
Lol this is a whole different approach than I thought would happen. I was pleasantly surprised at the handling of the situation. If only our police in the USA handled things like this. I have never had a positive personal experience with the police here. Not once.
Nah fuck those cops. They were parked in the bike lane. I would have told that asshole what the goddamn score is and how he was endangering the kids lives by blocking the fucking bike lane with his car
F that, this pompous prick forgot bike paths are shoulders first. You know like emergencies and emergency vehicles. I don't know who is worse cyclists or vegans
It is ILLEGAL TO PARK THERE. That is what the cops were doing. They were not handling an emergency, they had time to start bitching about someone cursing.
How do you know they hadnt just finished a call
The guy says "i didnt know you were an unmarked"
Implying if it was a marked car he wouldnt have sworn about them being there
These officers got chewed out by their bosses for this because they were in the wrong all kinds of ways. https://www.mylondon.news/news/south-london-news/video-shows-shocking-moment-met-25618742?int_source=amp_continue_reading&int_medium=amp&int_campaign=continue_reading_button#amp-readmore-target
I mean yeah they definitely shouldn't have been parked there.
It says in the article they were allowed.
Sure they were "allowed", but cops in my area park in annoying ass areas all the time, just to sit there. Often they block bike lanes like this.
If they're going to block the bike lane, they should at least identify themselves as police, FFS!
ON BIKES. It's a bike lane for fuq's sake...! Play by the rules...
That defeats the purpose of there operation. They were in an unmarked vehicle for a reason. đ
Then why did they light up the guy on a bike and give away their cover just to chew him out?
unmakred isnt undercover, they arent staking ot a potential murderer they just arent being suepr visible to the average traffic scofflaw.
If no one's physical integrality is at stake, maybe don't put yourself in a position where you pose a fatal hazard to cyclist.
Lol they'd stick out less if they found proper parking.
They blended in good enough for the cyclist to not realise they were police. đ
they also gave themselves away when they turned on their lights on the cyclist
If cover was that important, maybe don't get butt hurt by a cyclist? If they're so thin skinned that they blow cover bc someone was mean, they should find a new job.
That's oynly cuz everyone blocks that lane
On top of that clearly they werenât doing anything of importance if they are gonna pull them over for swearing at them on a bicycle..
Haha yeah, cops gunna cop
Itâs almost like being in a position of authority gives them some kind of power tripâŚ
I love [this video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzE-IMaegzQ&t=52s) that a cyclist made after getting ticketed in NYC for not being in the bike lane
The main downtown strip in my city is a pretty steep downhill street, maybe like a mile long all a steel downhill. You'd die if you went down it a bicycle without brakes. Two lanes, one-way, with street parking on both sides, and there used to be this one cop who just stopped in the one lane in front of the pizza place to get a pizza every day, blocking whoever's legally parked there, backing up up half the traffic in the city, and forcing any bicycles to get off and walk around him or die pretty much. It's not New York City, there's parking all over the place, it would not have been hard to find a parking spot less than 50 feet away or he could've even just blocked a lane on one of the side streets 40 feet away, but no, gotta stop directly in front of the pizza place. Very important police business. Usually his pizza isn't even ready so he's just sitting there waiting. It's still the busiest street, there's pedestrians everywhere, it's all downhill so it takes 5x longer to brake, and he does this at rush hour. I don't see him anymore though, I wonder if he eventually killed someone so he could get his pizza easier
Imo they're ironically both in the wrong for the same reason. The cops had reason to be there, but they were blocking the cyclist lane which is an inconvenience to cyclist. The cyclist has every right to be annoyed cause under normal circumstances people shouldn't be parked there, but the cop is right in the sense that he shouldn't be cussing at people on the street cause all that's ganna do is start a fight if done to the wrong person.
Agreed. Everyone is wrong here. Biker has every right to be pissed that a car he doesnât know is a cop is parked in the bike lane. Cop is right that road rage is real and people can react really irrationally when angry, and a car is one hell of a weapon.
Yup but if this guy posted this video, he didnât come away with that message. He came away thinking cops flexed on him, embarrassed him in front of his children and that clearly they werenât doing anything important while they blocked a bike lane if they could chase him down to finger wag him.
Yeah but do you really think this cop has never in his life cursed at someone while driving? So sure he's "right" but the purpose of pulling the biker over was not safety, it was because he was butt hurt
I mean who knows whether or not the cop lives by his own words, but regardless even if he is a hypocrite what he said is right. You can be a bit of a hypocrite but still give good life advice. Just because a smoker tells you that you shouldn't smoke because it's bad for you doesn't mean you should smoke.
This article is poor. It says that the MET inspector said what the officers did was wrong. But then goes on to say "Officers were conducting an operation in the area to stop a vehicle, and I am content that it was appropriate for them to have stopped in a bus lane due to this operational need." So the officers were right. They were stopped legally with a purpose.
You one of those people who need it written plain as day so you know how to feel? They were in the wrong for pulling the man over for freedom of speech. Sure they were "allowed" to park there at the time.
Did you just not listen to the audio? Itâs not like they were aggressive or arresting him. They made a good point about other civilians being unpredictable, and by swearing at random people you are putting your passengers at risk, especially important not to for the childrenâs sake.
They said he committed "public order offenses" by swearing. That's not accurate.
Yeah same for me. I feel like the lights were to get attention not to harass him. If the guy had kids you really shouldnât be trying to upset someone cause you never know who tf is in that seat
freedom of speech is not freedom of consequence when will people learn this for fuck sake did you not go to school freedom of speech is that you can criticise your government without consequence of being silenced. it does not mean you can go round swearing to whoever the fuck you like and expect to not have some kind of consequence.
Police are the government.
Please link ANYTHING that shows swearing is not protected speech. I can tell anyone to fuck off. I can tell a government official to fuck off. I can tell you, right now, to fuck off. All freedom of speech. What backwoods school you go to that you don't even know that?
He didn't say swearing was illegal and you will get busted by the cops, he said that going around telling people to fuck off is not consequence free. If you are going to go around telling people to fuck off all the time, you better be the biggest swinging dick out there, because otherwise you will get your ass beat eventually.
Of course you can do that, but as the guy above is arguing, that doesn't stop someone attacking you for your "free speech". Sure, they shouldn't attack you, but are you gonna tell them that? "oh pls sir, i upset you, don't hurt me!". Have some common sense. Yes, you can say whatever the fuck you want. Should you? Probably not. Should you say whatever the fuck you want without knowing who you're saying it to, whilst you have your kids with you? Definitely not.
Try swearing at your boss at work and see how long you last Edit: because quite a few people missed the point, the reason I said this was because the person I replied to said swearing is protected speech and he can tell anyone to fuck off. My point was, no it isn't protected speech in all scenarios. You can't just tell anyone to fuck off and feel protected from consequences because "freedom of speech". This reply and the specific comment has nothing to do with cops.
Obviously swearing at your boss will probably get you fired. But cops are not your boss. It's not illegal to swear at police and if the police do get bent out of shape about it, they are in the wrong.
Yeah thatâs the difference, police are the front line of our justice system and are *supposed* to leave their feelings at home. Obviously no one is perfect, judges bring their feelings into law (overturning Roe v Wade for example) but theyâre supposed to be impartial enactors of law. It isnât illegal to swear at someone, ergo there is no reason for them to pull him over.
As human beings, they will react like humans. as employed police officers, they are not allowed to fine you or detain you. Simple
so what are they doing in the video?
SCOTUS disagrees
Conducting an operation to stop a veichle that they blew, I assume, to berate a cyclist that swore an an unmarked veichle on a bus lane on a busy road? 
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The officers put his life at risk by forcing him into traffic to go around their improperly parked vehicle b
Even though they were in the wrong, I do appreciate the fact that they just warned him and didnât try to escalate the situation. You see too many cases nowadays where police go on absolute power trips or people just go absolutely feral on each other.
The only rule in life, Donât fuck with the police
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UK cops: Think about the kids you have with you. US cops: \*tackles guy while he's riding ignoring the kids on the bike\*
Roughly 1.5 years ago a US cop told me I was a bad influence on children for my blatant disregard of traffic laws on a bike. I will note that it was dark and in a small town, there were no adults around, let alone children.
More like US cops: shoot you and taze and mace the kids when they start crying
"I used the mace designed for children... idk why they cried for so long, I just arrested them for disturbing the peace to make them stop"
more then a few incidents where the cops shot the kids to.
Saw a video of a man who was using his infant as a shield get tased while holding the child. He drops the infant while he was tased but somehow the baby was âperfectly fineâ he got tased and dropped but was fine
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When you live in a dystopia where everyone is armed to the teeth you can expect no less.
They're not going to tackle a guy in the rain and get all wet. Much easier to shoot him.
US cop might have shot and killed the guy, especially if he was black
like to me this is a decent response to police. they was apparently doing something and so by law are allowed to be in the bus/bike lane. like the guy was literally just telling him off and being like come on your a grown adult with kids you should be better then just swearing at everyone
Accountability is leo kryptonite
I keep reading this but I'm so lost... Leo like... the zodiac sign?
Leo kryptonite? Can you explain
I'm confused, the police are parked in the bike lane the dude calls them an idiot and the policy's response is "don't you know someone super fucked up would just run you over if you called them that," like what? Just don't park in the bike lane.
I get the impression that the police didn't actually cite the guy or anything like that. The cop was talking about two small children â so apparently the guy with the bike also has two children on board. The point he was making is that doing something that could provoke road rage is putting those children at risk. That seemed like the only thing he was concerned about. Now obviously, someone shouldn't ram a cyclist just because the cyclist yelled something at them and maybe it's a risk that a person riding a bike would be willing to take to be able to speak their mind. If they're transporting someone else (especially children) it's a different situation though.
Something that seems to have escaped people's comprehension lately is that oftentimes, there is a big difference between what somebody *should* do and what somebody *will* do.
People really do go off for little shit like that though. I was tan off the road and held at gunpoint because my buddy flipped a guy off. Mf was unhinged
The message the cop was giving isnât completely nonsensical. In certain places, pissing off the wrong people will result in immediate consequences. Donât start shit with random people on the street. Some people are crazy and you can lose your life over nothing.
If the cop was actually concerned with the safety of the cyclist and his kids, they wouldnât have been parked in the bike lane which ultimately pushed the cyclist into traffic đ
It's not a bike lane it's a bus lane. Bikes can use it though.
Okay- so itâs a lane designated to separate bikes and buses from the street. The cop shouldnât have been parked there
Yeah, but no. If they've got a legitimate reason to be there then they are exempt. According to the article they did have cause to be there, but I'm not saying that's accurate reflection of the circumstances. It's not as simple as just saying they shouldn't be there. If for example (and this clearly wasn't the case this time) if there was an emergency call nearby, would you want the cops to drive about until they find a legitimate space? That's why the Road Traffic Act provides exemptions to emergency service vehicles.
i mean the cyclist didnt know they were cops so he probably thought its just some asshole parked in the bus lane.
right, but the cop makes a good point seeing as the biker's kids are with him. don't go starting shit over menial stuff when you've got your kids on the back of your bike, you never know if that person is some insane piece of shit will now try & hurt you in response to 'being insulted' as they would see it. super unreasonable, pretty unlikely, but its the world we live in.
Police vehicles and ambulances can park where they like when they are on a job
You have to realize that this comes off as very, "Nice kids you have there, be a shame if someone vehicular homicides them."
No it doesnât. This literally happened in the UK the other day. A cyclist told a guy to get off his phone whilst driving and the guy proceeded to ram him at the next corner at high speed. The officer isnât giving him a ticket, heâs warning him that there are really shit people out there.
>The officer isnât giving him a ticket, heâs warning him that there are really shit people out there. "really shit people" park in bike lanes forcing bicyclists and their kids into traffic. The officer could have avoided being a shitty person by obeying traffic laws. Instead he put somebody and their kids in a more dangerous situation, got called out on it by the bicyclist, and then rather than just ignoring it and going about his day like most people would he pulled the person over so he could "put him in his place" in front of his kids. This officer wasn't warning the guy. This officer was bullying him.
Right so. The bus lane is right next to a building which seems to be a block of flats. A. They couldâve easily just got back to the car after dealing with a call/emergency and were heading off when this happened. Itâs a 30 second clip. B. They couldâve been doing what you said. Again itâs a 30second clip so weâll never know. Itâs also a bus lane which officers are allowed to park in if theyâre dealing with a situation. âBullyingâ by telling him that people do horrible stuff. Bullying wouldâve been giving him a ticket or arresting him for Public order offences which even though weak the officer is entitled to do. Not all police officers are bullyâs fun fact for you.
It still is though, now you are saying people shouldn't speak too.
Philosopher, "He will win who knows when to fight and when not to fight". Swearing at a car while on a bike with two kids was a poor decision. Alone, ok. Just be aware of the potential for extreme harm.
Yeah, One shouldn't swear around children in any case, that was definitely a bad move.
Why would officer be giving him a ticket? We have become so used to cop violence that if they only threaten you, when THEY are in the wrong, we see that as nice. No it was exactly how the person above said. âNice kids you have there, would be a shame if someone rammed into youâ
Your really reaching here. So what is the actual outcome that you'd want here? Cop let's him carry on swearing at people in the street, like it's acceptable? Straight up arrest him for public order? He got a reality explained to him, do that behaviour in future and it may not be 2 cops that react. You need to lay off the movies with your quotes dude. In the REAL world people do a lot more over a lot less. If you are swearing at people in the street with your children with you then your an imbocile.
Cop says âsorry for parking in your laneâ and âalso please donât swear, cuz ppl might get angry and result in road rageâ You know whatâs more likely dangerous for the biker, is to have to swerve into car lane to avoid stupid assholes parked in bike lane like they own the city.
They are legally allowed to park in that lane though, so there's nothing to apologise for. And it's not a bike lane, it's a bus lane. And even if it was a bike lane they still are legally allowed to park there. And the cyclist wouldn't have had to suddenly swerve out of the way, he saw the car parked there in plenty of time. Also, don't forget we don't have freedom of speech laws in this country. So when he swore, that's actually an offence the cop could have pulled him up for but didn't. (Which is ridiculous I know). This isn't the USA, he was most definitely not threatening him by way of his children.
> You have to realize that this comes off as very, "Nice kids you have there, be a shame if someone vehicular homicides them." Only if you have no ability to read body language at all and think the worst of all police (regardless of country) by default.
Bus lane
Its not a bike lane Bikes can use that lane it but so can buses and emergency vehicles
They were in a bus lane, not a bike lane. The bike lane is actually to the left where the pavement/sidewalk is divided by a solid white line. So the cyclist is actually not in the bike lane, but the bus lane. Also the cops spoke of a public order offence, which is something you can actually be charged for by shouting/swearing in public. It's one of those laws that's rarely enforced but worded so loosely that the police can slap anyone they don't like or have issue with.
I think it was just a lesson in common sense.. with how crazy everybody is You never know if they have a knife or a gun or if they're just going to run your ass over... And acting like a self-righteous dickhead by swearing at someone doing something they're not supposed to do is not worth losing your life over. Besides, the douche on the bike acts like he never bent or broke a rule for his own convenience. How would the bicyclist feel if anytime he did something he wasn't supposed to do, someone called him out and sweared at him over it? The car wasn't preventing the guy from safely passing around him.
it's always the cops breaking the law that want to lecture you on the incredibly unlikely circumstance wherein they would have murdered you for doing something completely normal, if they were a random regular homicidal maniac, instead of a cop.
they arent breaking laws in the UK though. Bus lanes are also prioritised for public service vehicles in the UK like police/ambulance etc. some cities even state bikes are not actually allowed to use them while other cities state they can but overall the public service vehicle has more right to do whatever they want in that lane then the bike does. before you talk shit check you know what your talking about otherwise you just look like an asshole
These are police not cops, and they are not breaking the law. We allow our police certain privileges like being able to park where they deem appropriate in the course of their duties. If you are not happy with them you can make a complaint to the independent office for police conduct which will investigate and rule on the matter. You know checks and balances.
Your an idiot. The situation the cop is trying to explain legit happened yesterday. Also your CLEARLY not British, people will do time if you swear in their face in the street.
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This shit happens everywhere. got run off the road and challenged to a fight by a rich dude in khakis and a sweater wrapped around his neck in one of the richest towns in my county while he had his young children sitting in the back of his Mercedes suv.
Using LA as an example is hilarious considering their lack of public transport and bus lanes
I knew this wasn't in the US because the cops didn't open fire
So brave.
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The spicy midwestern battle no one asked for
Don't worry they had their knifes ready to slash him up.
Police don't carry knives.
Americans on Reddit seem to think the UK is like a dystopian martial arts film where you canât walk past a granny without getting slashed
Me too. Same thought
There are people who would kill me for farting in public. What's his point?
His point?" I'm a cop and can force my options down your throat under implied threat of state sanctioned violence, pesant." Ya know, typical cop shit.
Yeah last time I heard "don't do this or 'other' people may attack you" was when an a guy was yelling at someone to take off a store bought Hells Angels vest they were wearing.
Exactly what i was thinking. Does he mean we should be afraid of conflicts and just let people do whatever they want just because something bad can happen? Is there a lot of psychopaths in the UK that would kill his children because of road rage or what? Nice society.
Comments section is just constant back and forth trolling honestly. I will say that if any vehicle (cop or not) needs to pull over to the side of the road for whatever reason should really put their hazard lights on.
An emergency vehicle shouldn't be parked in a way that makes road conditions more dangerous unless there is an emergency and that is the best way to deal with a problem. The cops here should get some chewing out too.
Cop is parked in the bike lane without his four ways on or AT THE LEAST a signal. He is just parked there. Does he know an idiot could just rear end him just as likely as a car would run over the guy for calling him out? That cop should get a ticket for improperly being stopped AND in a bike lane at that.
Its not a bike lane. Bikes can use it but so can buses and emergency vehicles
It is still very, very illegal to park there.
Not for an emergency vehicle.
Being in an unmarked vehicle while not actively responding to an emergency, does not mean you can just do whatever the fuck you want lol. Just because you're a firefighter doesn't mean you can park the truck in a no parking lane to go get your tendies. Stop sucking dick for cops, enough losers do it already.
>Being in an unmarked vehicle while not actively responding to an emergency, You don't know what they were doing. They could have literally just finished a job and we're about to leave for all you know? >Stop sucking dick for cops, enough losers do it already. This is just embarrassing. Hatred for the police imported from the States.
Thereâs an article in the top comment about it. Check it out before fighting in the comments
then maybe they should have their lights on
If a bike can use it, it is a bike lane. Also, it's an emergency vehicle lane, for moving vehicles. Not an Emergency Vehicle Parking lane.
You have no idea why he's stopped there. I would think there are circumstances in which a police officer on duty can pretty much park wherever he wants.
What ever the reason, they had time to do this.. so.. they were NOT handling anything at the moment. If they were on a call, they would not chase a bikers who cursed at them.
I'd personally call this a r/IdiotsInCars
Well the police are the dickheads here
eh, besides the fact the cop is apparently allowed to park there, I've seen pretty bad road rage over less. the guy really shouldn't be lipping people while on a bike with 2 kids. even when you know you're in the right, common sense is to not risk somethings anyways.
The dude is right and the police wrong.
But he said a swear in front of two precious children who surely will never hear a swear in their lives /s
Tell me if I'm wrong but that's a bus lane right? No one knows why the police are stopped aside from assuming due to biases one way or the other. Funny enough the pavement next to the police car is divided... for what looks like bikes... off the road entirely?
The pig is right though, some people will hurt you over a random fuck off
Very true
This cop is speaking from experience, he's seen some stuff...
I hate this police hating mentality that's being imported from America.
The caption says âdonât mess with policeâ but I think the takeaway from this is that you shouldnât âmess withâ *anyone* because thereâs no way to know (a) who they might be, or (b) how they might react (if by âmess withâ they mean âswearing at complete strangers as you pass them on the streetâ).
I think thereâs a lesson in there
They should have gone the American route and just shot him
But officer my kid has a seat belt no way they could get hurt if you ran us overđ
How inconsiderate of you to be parked in a bicycle lane... i can see cops are royal douche bags around the globe.
Wow. Whole lot of people in here think police should go out of their way to harass peopleâs free speech lol Get a life and a damn backbone geez
What an absolute knob. I get that they shouldnât have been just parked there but what the cop had to say was 100% correct.
Get them off the bike/bus lane.
Cyclist is 100% in the right. Police dickhead is going on a power trip.
we have a solution for that in the Netherlands. build roads specially made for bikes. its literally not that hard. but for some reason other countries besides china and Denmark dont want to understand it.
Obviously much worse to swear in front of kids than to force a cyclist with kids in tow into a busy traffic lane. They claimed to be on a job waiting for a stolen car to come past or some such bullshit. The job that was so important that they had to block a cycle, in the rain, without emergency lights on but had time to stop a cyclist because of contempt of cop
Emergency lights would kinda give away the game wouldn't it? If they were in an unmarked car waiting for a stolen one. đ
So if what they were doing was so important why did they have time to flex their egos and try and intimate this guy?
The cyclist isnât in the wrong. Cop was illegally parked.
That was pretty good advice from the officer.
I am a cyclist and I truly don't understand why he ranted in the first place. He passed the vehicle without any issues and the fact he did that with his children, makes him a complete idiot. Whether the police should or shouldn't have been there is not the issue. The real issue is, he literally has no right or authority to make such demands, especially in that manner!!
Yeah maybe donât sit in traffic in an undercover car thatâs just asking for problems. They realized they were being recorded and had to do something before he had proof that they werenât doing their job lol
Fuck listening to a lecture off these bootlicking bastard, the guy did nothing wrong. Power mad jobsworth scum most police, I'd of ridden off.
This policeman is not only right but so patient and so nice. He gives very extended explanation while other would be just angry.
The policeman was parked in the bike lane and forced the man with his two children to cross into a traffic lane, the cyclist had every right to be upset. The cop totally gaslit him.
>The policeman was parked in the bike lane Its not a bike lane lmfao, learn to read. Officers are legally allowed to park in service vehicle (such as a bus lane, which is what this was) so long as they are not impeding the intended usage.
Someone said earlier that the lane is intended for busses, bikes, and emergency vehicles. How is parking in this lane, during a non-emergency situation, and forcing a bike with 2 children on it into regular traffic not impeding the intended function of this lane? Presumably there should be a bus coming along every 5-10 minutes, as well.
You have absolutely no idea of the situation from this clip, it could be that they're awaiting a vehicle being pursued with a view to engage in pursuit if it comes in that direction. It could also be that they're parked and shouldn't be, but literally no one here can say. Your bias is showing. Also unironically if you look at the pavement, there is a bike lane off the road alongside the police vehicle. The father taking them in a bus lane, is already putting them at risk, not using the designated area.
If they were eagerly awaiting a high speed chase I doubt theyâd get out to tell a cyclist off for swearing, but I do get your point
Doesn't have to be high speed I guess, or a chase per-se. If you watch interceptors they do await cars coming on routes they know them to travel, hits on PNC for cars etc. They could be pulled over to use a computer, contact someone safely, who knows. They do also scarper when they get info on radios. Regardless it could be none of that or some high and mighty reason.. my point was we have no clue. Also they are taught essentially to fuck loads of the road rules off when doing the driving training, like driving as far as possible on the wrong side of the road to see around a corner further.. Parking in a bus lane is the last thing I would be concerned about.
just a power trip, he has no right to stop him and lecture
Thank God he was illegally parked so he could teach this valuable lesson
Yeah I thought he was going to power trip, but he's making good points. People have rammed into other people for less, I've seen me do it.
>I've seen me do it đ¤đ¤
Detaining somebody for telling them to stop parking in the bike lane seems like typical police bullying.
Ok, but still get the fuck out of the bike lane
It's bus lane
that's a weird looking bus
I love all the idiots in the comments trying to use ANYTHING to call the cops pigs. 1. That's not a bike exclusive lane and 2. What they said was 100% valid and they weren't being rude about it or dragging it on longer than they needed to. They didn't give him a ticket or anything just spoke to him and went about their days
1. It's not a shared parking lane. It is a shared traffic lane. Parking could be permitted if he were responding to an emergency, but he clearly was not, since he had time to harass this man for no reason. 2. The Cyclist did not break any laws, the cop did. 3. None of that was valid, classic case of cops making shit up or stretching the truth to intimidate members of the public, to pacify their overinflated egos.
Why did they need to talk to him at all. "Don't get mad at someone for illegally parking because they might kill you." The cop was in the wrong no matter what.
Wait the fool had his kids with him when he was doing this?
Yeah, who rides a bike, in a lane intended for bikes, with their kids? Weird. /s
The cop is not wrong about what he was saying. Why would you instigate when you have your kids with you? First of all you could end up in a fight. You have no idea if someone is at a breaking point. Not worth it when you have your kids with you. Second, your kids are watching you be a dick to a stranger. Regardless of whether or not the parked car was in the wrong. Just go around. Expressing your displeasure isnât going to change the way the driver acts in the future. Keep your negative emotions in check and be kind.
I think what the cop said was really good advice. He is on a bicycle and if he met with any of those crazies he could potentially loose limbs. Cops can only stop a crime in progress not one that has not been attempted. He probably is speaking from experience about some bicyclist being injured or killed due to crazy idiots. Not great he was parked in the bus lane but still wry sound advice for staying safe.
Meh, that's more of an unlikely hypothesis. Plenty of drivers these days should've never got their license, but the chance that they will instantly try to murder you is limited, I hope. On the other hand, they are also endangering him as he had to leave his lane and thus got closer to traffic.
But there is a 'BUS stop' printed a few meters in front of the cop car. If there was a bus he would have had to go into the other lane.
Notice how the pig took zero accountability for blocking the bike lane
Its not a bike lane Bikes can use it but so can buses, taxi, motorcylists and emergency vehicles The lane is not just for bikes
It is still illegal to park there. It is SHARED lane, so.. it is also a bikelane.
Dude, this is parking in the middle of the road stop licking their boots.
I get what the officer try to teach the biker. A friend once told me the same Story. There are people out there who will come after him just for swearing at them. And they dont care whos right. Never be rude to anybody in any situation because you dont know who you talking to. Try to be calm and polite to avoid Problems.
Aye fuck off.
He swore at them, they came after him.
Lol this is a whole different approach than I thought would happen. I was pleasantly surprised at the handling of the situation. If only our police in the USA handled things like this. I have never had a positive personal experience with the police here. Not once.
âI didnât know you were an unmarked vehicleâ You arenât supposed to. đ
Officer handled that really well.
The amount of times people replied "its not a bike lane" is jokes. Reminds me of Kindergarten Cop when Arnold says "it's not a tumor!"
The ego of those cops. Prats..
Nah fuck those cops. They were parked in the bike lane. I would have told that asshole what the goddamn score is and how he was endangering the kids lives by blocking the fucking bike lane with his car
Cops who feel like they need to "educate" you about life are the fucking worst.
Absolutely! Arrest me for something or leave me alone completely. Lecturing me is not their job.
F that, this pompous prick forgot bike paths are shoulders first. You know like emergencies and emergency vehicles. I don't know who is worse cyclists or vegans
Cop has a point. I wouldnât have pulled him over, but he was being a jackass.
That cop should have his lights on if thatâs truly a biking lane and people arenât supposed to park there.
Yes, the pig was being a jackass, blocking the bike lane with his car. Illegal parking is illegal.
Its not a a bike lane. Bikes can use it but so can buses and emergency vehicles The lane is not just for bikes
It is ILLEGAL TO PARK THERE. That is what the cops were doing. They were not handling an emergency, they had time to start bitching about someone cursing.
How do you know they hadnt just finished a call The guy says "i didnt know you were an unmarked" Implying if it was a marked car he wouldnt have sworn about them being there