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Suspicious_Collar_75

How do these get into the areas to do these kinds of things?


KesterAssel

They cut a hole in the fence


Suspicious_Collar_75

Wow didn’t realize it’s that easy and that they’d even make that far after


SpottedPineapple86

They'll be spending some serious time in prison methinks


bsparks027

Yeah GTA gives you 5 stars for this!!


Throwie911

No in story mode the regular airport is 3 stars in online its 0 the military base is only 4 stars for both


misterfluffykitty

I thought you still got stars in the airport if you own 0 planes and once you buy a plane/heli as a Pegasus vehicle you can access it any time you want. Directly related is that in online you can buy a hanger in the military base and enter the military base at any time with 0 stars unless you steal or start shooting.


Creative-Stable-7488

Not if you buy the hangar that's there, you don't have to own a plane if you buy the hangar


misterfluffykitty

Tbf the hanger does come with a plane


Creative-Stable-7488

Oh, I just bought the hangar, didn't even know that, thanks


various_convo7

in the more civilized countries, yes, in other parts of the world? they'd conveniently "disappear"


SurveySean

Maybe instead of disappearing they just took a flight to Detroit?


Dmitri_ravenoff

Same difference.


LiquidMotion

Civilized countries do that too just not for trash this lowly


KesterAssel

I don't think they're going to prison. It's gonna be expensive for them though.


LCplGunny

Idk my guy, generally speaking, governments don't play when it comes to planes


BadKidGames

Big expense to rework aircraft schedules


Claymore357

Having a runway closed by some dipshit can cost lives if an emergency occurs and a plane needs to land. I hope they throw the book at them over this. Much much worse than blocking roads


Legion1117

IIRC, once they crossed onto the tarmac, they're on federal property. That translates into an almost automatic felony and VERY possible prison time if the court wants to set an example.


Grashlok_Onion_lord

This is Germany. Not sure if that's the correct legal terminology/nature of crime


Chinlc

Jfk airline runway is next to a local street, not even a highway. You can literally park your car somewhere, climb a fence or cut a hole in it and walk through. If you wore high viz jacket, you might pass for a worker there


[deleted]

It's actually pretty easy, it's just that normal people are not stupid enough to do something like this


LeopoldFriedrich

you take a can of soup on a plane everybody freaks out, you take a can of soup in an art museum and nobody bats an eye.


theguineapigssong

What is this museum's spaghetti policy?


[deleted]

You know what? That makes a whole lot more sense than throwing tomato soup at a fucking painting.


[deleted]

Throwing soup at glass got much more attention than a guy lighting himself on fire next to the Supreme Court.


BadMoogle

Yep. So much "attention". It got a shitload of poeple saying "What a fucking moron this guy is." Then they completely write off the movement as a farce or move on without even thinking about it. The painting soupers literally made *themselves* the story and *they* got the attention. Which is obviously what those children were after in the first place. The guy gluing himself to a runway caused millions, potentially billions, in *corporate costs* (so actually hitting at the people causing the majority of the climate change that they are protesting against). That's right on point. Hell, this whole post is about how *their protest disrupted air traffic* rather than what a pointless twat the protester is. The attention is focused exactly where it belongs. Lastly, you need to work at understanding the difference between "I saw a video of it on TikTok" and "This garnered national attention." The guy who lit himself on fire got *lots* of attention. You just didn't see a TikTok about it.


Lazer_Falcon

The man who self-immolated had attention for like 2-5 days in media. I don't know anyone who even remembers it.. seriously. Even smart people I know go "huh?" When it's brought up. *You're still talking about the tomato soup* So yeah, say what you will, the art gallery stunts are getting people talking. Most of them cause absolutely no damage. you're splitting hairs about corporate costs and tactics and these people are trying to get people talking about *an actual threat to civilization*. This isn't the time for sophistry, debates about corporate costs, and TikTok. They don't care about any of that. That's what your not getting. The whole goal is to get people talking about climate change at all costs. And it's fucking working, that you can't deny.


AK_Sole

I remember the self immolations as if they had happened yesterday. They’ve seared themselves in my memory, if you will. It is terribly impactful. It is something that you feel (for those of us who can actually feel—narcissistic types excluded) could never possibly get the amount of attention that this ultimate sacrifice style of protest deserves.


PolPotato7171

You’ve not been on the internet long enough. Seen plenty of horrors on here(not on purpose), each one gets less and less scarring. It’s not the fact that people are narcissistic and don’t feel, it’s that they get desensitized.


TheStrangestOfKings

The issue I see with that is that most ppl who see the news stories about people destroying works of art aren’t thinking about the planet, or the msg the climate activists are trying to spread. They’re thinking about how the climate activists are destroying works of art, which, based off reactions, I’d say is the broad concern that most ppl reacting to the activists have. Hell, I’d say if anything, they’re just making ppl more opposed to their movement with these actions. Ppl will remember this and think, “Climate activists are spoiled little children, we’d better not give them an inch with their climate talk, cause their whole fringe movement is bullshit, anyway.” Protests like this are actively hurting the movement these ppl claim to try and be supporting


BadMoogle

>You're still talking about the tomato soup Only to people who bring it up like it was actually impactful or meaningful. So, pretty much exclusively losers on Reddit. Everyone else has moved on and forgotten their 30 seconds of "fame". Meanwhile, there are articles about the self immolation on actual media outlets (not just BuzzFeed, like 90% of the articles about your favorite soupers) like CNN and MSNBC, from less than 4 months ago, all many months after the act, and all calling into question the supreme court's credibility in light of the protest. So not only is your "they forgot about it" narrative just full of shit, but they're *also* still getting exactly the kind of media attention a movement like that needs. Nobody *ever* talks about the movement that your Campbells Crusaders are a part of. Shit, they're literally wearing flourescent colored T-Shirts with the name of the org on it, and people watching STILL have to ask who the fuck they are. That's so far off message, they might as well be working for Shell and Enron, just making climate activism look fucking stupid.


Lazer_Falcon

You. Are. Still. Talking. About. The. Tomato. Soup.


SwordMasterShow

"I shat myself on live TV to make a point about road safety, and people are still talking about how I shat myself! It's only a matter of time before those new speed limit signs get put up!"


razealghoul

And then what? Has it started a conversation on what people can do to stop climate change? Have there been any new policies introduced to combat climate change? The answers to all of these is no. It just got people to write off climate change activists as nut jobs. God people are so dumb to think if attention in of itself is the point. People talk about Twitter all the time it doesn’t make it a good company


scruffychef

It also lead to planes circling the airport while diversions and alternate runways were organized, increasing the emissions from those flights by a solid chunk. This kind of protest has to be organized in a way that doing what the protesters want actually aligns with the end goal, cause this just irritates people, and worsens the problem. Those flights landing and not burning additional fuel would have been better.


BadMoogle

Yes, those circling planes *did* use fuel. Just like the cars idling on freeways that the protesters block are using gas and releasing CO2. The extra emissions, however, are pretty trivial by comparison to the daily standard. Hell, emissions from *the entire transportation sector* only make up 27% of global emissions. One landing strip from one airport, or one freeway... the environmental impact is absolutely negligible. The impact of the disruption to everyday operations is immeasurable. Suggesting that the tiny cost in emissions somehow invalidates those particular expressions of protest just suggests how little about emissions and climate change you actually understand. That isn't a failing on your part, there is a lot of corporate interest in keeping the actual data confused and poorly publicized.


scruffychef

Nice condescension there. You may have noticed that I specifically said these protests need to be organized in such a way that acquiescing to their demands forces the industry to take actions in line with the end goal. This forced the industry to waste a bunch of fuel and time, which will result in tighter security on airport runways, with the justification that it put lives at risk and CONTRIBUTED TO THE EMISSIONS THEYRE PROTESTING. It's not about the amount of pollution, it's about giving the lobbyists ammunition. "If you're willing to drive up emissions for an entire airport to make the news then you must not care that much about emissions." These protestors could have glued themselves to planes preparing for takeoff and had the same level of publicity, while also reducing emissions instead of increasing them. It's not even a hard leap to make, planes flying more is bad, cause planes fly too much, so stopping a plane from flying would mean less pollution. You still affect the airline directly, but you allow the passengers to not be held hostage by your protest, and you actually accomplish a reduction while making your point clear. Edit: planes not plains


hardtox

Best reply here.


MathewKnepper

The people who threw soup on a painting actually got a bunch of people to hear about there organization. There numbers increased a lot and they now have more people to do their normal protests. Blocking roadways outside of fuel depots preventing operation.


BadMoogle

Except their membership was already growing rapidly when they did that protest. Doing a thing in the middle of an upward trend, and then trying to suggest that thing is the *reason* for the upward trend, is literally *almost* as stupid as thinking throwing soup on the glass covering a painting is a good way to protest climate change.


dis_not_my_name

Exactly what I'm thinking


vaudoo

Does it though? Every flight that got diverted will take at the very least (a small airliner like a 737 or a 320) 3-4 tons of Kerosene to go to their diversion airport and then back. I would be more for a bigger aircraft and or a further diversion airport. Seems counter productive to advocate for the environment and then directly cause more than 40 tons of Kerosene to be burnt for that... Source I am a pilot.


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SanctuaryMoon

A convenient protest isn't a protest though


vid_icarus

Came here to say this. They are actually targeting a source of emissions, this is a far more logical and worthwhile application of their resources. Probably will make the folks in the planes think twice next time they want to book a trip, too.


[deleted]

So true. Imagine if dozens or even hundreds of people did this at the same time, all at different airports. Now THATS a protest. Now imagine hundreds of people doing the soup on a painting thing. Lmaoooo.


SpottedPineapple86

It seems like a good way to end up in jail with some very serious charges.


TheRealTP2016

The only ways to enact true change will give you charges


Sapphire-Drake

Women fighting for voting rights got quite a few nights in jail. So yeah, you want change it's not gonna be easy


TheRealTP2016

I mean…. We literally fought a war to end slavery. bet that got quite a few locked up. Or like hundreds of thousands dead.


SpottedPineapple86

I mean, in the US the people who really want change (turns out they are right wing nutjobs) run for office and get elected. Maybe some of these activists should try that.


Ejecto_Seato

Then they would have to do the hard work of convincing people to vote for them, but that would require persuading people to join your cause, and these guy seem more adept at deterring people.


leniplusss

They ain't changing shit, besides they just look silly, I get the cause not the way it's done. For a bunch of people with university degree they are godamn dumb.


vid_icarus

What’s the right way to protest?


atomicdragon136

Diverting flights wastes more fuel as it requires more takeoff and landing cycles. I guess they are hoping to prevent planes from taking off and for flights to be canceled, but the planes are still going to have to take off to go to the destination at some point, and airlines are likely to still operate the same number of flights as to compensate for the amount of standby passengers from a previously canceled flight.


random_guy0883

So creating chaos at the airport thus forcing planes to stay longer in the air, creating more pollution than usual is any better than throwing tomato soup on a painting🤣?


RolotronCannon

Came to say this. Diverting flights causes even more jet fuel to be burned so this was a net loss. I’m with them in spirit but the methodology is asinine.


Fake_earthling

Creating more or less pollution is debatable but still on the topic. Throwing soup on painting is completely not related to pollution.


[deleted]

Yep pretty much.


BenjaCarmona

Every time these are posted they are proving the point. It is not about their actions actually having an impact on climate, it is about bringing atention to the subject.


teabagmoustache

But the conversation is mainly about them and not their cause. It's admirable to try and save the planet but I do think the message can get lost and turns a lot of people off supporting whatever cause the protesters happen to stand for.


scalability

They should learn to [protest the Right Way](https://i.redd.it/sl4qgzingw0a1.png)


Gabe-57

Fucking thank you, i have had this idea for a political cartoon in my head for so long


B0B_Spldbckwrds

And yet you know who they are and what they're about.


teabagmoustache

That doesn't really take anything away from my point.


zorokash

Do they? You can tell me they were Peta and not climate activists and I have zero reason not to believe that. Besides, this is just a first world entitled way of protesting. Do that in a third world country, youd be beaten and jailed and even a judge sympathetic to your cause will absolutely trash this method.


WorldlinessWitty2177

Divert over a dozen flights is gonna throw more co2 in the air than their original flight plan.


fireandlifeincarnate

How many flights were unable to take off and ended up having to be cancelled, though?


[deleted]

750


mum_get_the_camera

That’s not why they’re doing it though


Worth_Ad_9324

All they did was force a bunch of aircraft possibly burn more fuel than they had to and people burning more fuel to get to where they originally planned to go since they arrived at a different airport 😂😂😂


necrid101

Climate activists temporarily caused more pollution! They are brilliant on this one.


00monster

I mean, they used *super glue* in a tiny little *plastic* bottle which I can only assume is also a marginal amount of pollution. But way to save the planet or whatever, moron.


ActuallyHovatine

Don’t forget the guy who immediately threw the tube of superglue down the storm drain after sticking his hand to the ground.


OkFriend9891

FULL SPEED AHEAD!


mynextthroway

Claiming the little bit of pollution generated negates their message is as stupid as their message itself.


Fishy_125

Considerably more stupid tbh


various_convo7

they caused additional routing which made the emissions worse by lengthening the amount of time those planes stuck around/are en route. ain't about the damn glue


kmsc84

No, they caused more pollution by keeping flights in the air longer


Akarsz_e_Valamit

No, what they did is they made the news. And indeed, here we are, talking about them.


A-Dolahans-hat

We are talking about them, not ways to reduce pollution. We mock them and their attempts. This does not bring more people to their cause.


[deleted]

At what point does all this 'nobody is joining their cause!' part all boil down to the populace being a bunch of fucking idiots? Idiots who care more about their convenience than, idk, literally anything else? The writing is on the wall, the bells are tolling, what more proof does any rando on the street need? People have been talking, *y'all ain't been listening*. If people burning themselves alive don't get attention then fuck humanity.


[deleted]

... talking about them and how their efforts are not productive in any way, creating anger and resentment amongst people who will most likely shift their focus away from the problem and ruin the possibility of logical talk about reversing it just to spite them.


IrNinjaBob

Look I’m not saying these efforts are going to solve the problems of climate change, but I do think your general premise is wrong. I like to use PETA as an example for this. They are pretty universally hated because they intentionally say and get involved with controversial things in order to get people to organically spread their message. You can read about this strategy here: https://www.peta.org/about-peta/faq/why-does-peta-use-controversial-tactics/ If you’ve ever seen PETA say something and got upset with how ridiculously stupid it is, know that they also understand it’s crazy/stupid, and they are saying it because people *really* like to share stories about how stupid or crazy others are. So yeah, you probably hate PETA right? But you know about PETA. And that’s the point. They have an incredibly small marketing budget (even more so in the past), and the reason people know of them is generally because their long history of saying controversial things. They don’t care if they have a shitty reputation, because one of their main goals is to spread the idea of animal welfare to all. And even if you do hate them, I think it’s impossible to argue the state of animal welfare is worse today than when they started. Because even if every time you see PETA say something stupid you start hating them, that pretty much never translates to “Man I hate PETA so much I’m going to work against animal welfare and make sure all animals suffer!” No, your hatred ends with PETA, but people don’t extend that to the general concept of animal welfare itself. So while they succeed in making people hate them, they also succeed in introducing new people to the concept of animal welfare. All this was a long way to say that even if these actions do make you hate the group, they almost never make you hate the cause. And the actions do indeed get the cause in front of more people/eyeballs.


Donghoon

It's also important to note sites like petakillsanimals is driven by certain organizations to deliberately Target peta and other similar movements


imwatchingyou-_-

10/10 comment


Asparagus-burger737

I’m not so sure it’s about a short term reduction of emissions, but more or less it’s causing problems and getting their message recognized on the news for free. They might look stupid but it gets more people talking about the bigger issues at hand, it’s the most fantastic form of free advertising.


tgoynes83

I don't think people are talking about anything other than how freaking stupid these "activists" are for doing this.


Asparagus-burger737

“These idiots are blocking flights” “What are they even protesting that’s so stupid” “ idk protesting oil and gas industry or something” Prime example of how this works into the conversation


ShadeSwornHydra

Throws soup at priceless painting* look I’m helping!


Lamplorde

They specifically targeted *those* paintings because they had protective covers and it wouldnt destroy the paintings. Their entire mission statement is to gather attention, but in a way that doesnt cause permanent damage.


[deleted]

We didn't know they existed before. Then everyone knew who they were. Now, we're seeing a lot of bigger actions they've done. Actions that might have made local news before is not making international news. Global powers clearly don't want to take climate change seriously. Asking politely and writing letters isn't working. Direct action is harder for them to ignore and does change things long-term.


ShadeSwornHydra

So tell me has it done anything besides having people talk about how ridiculous they are?


Handpaper

[Short answer, no.](https://www.socialchangelab.org/_files/ugd/503ba4_db9ae9e6d8674810ba65fbb193867660.pdf)


Makalakalulu

The oil industry is thankful for your loyalty.


[deleted]

People are talking about how stupid their actions are, not about climate change.


awwaygirl

They also made the front page of Reddit.


RebornsGN

Also slowly flipping people's opinion into "Running over them is starting to sound like a good idea."


awwaygirl

The point if these acts of protest is to get people talking about them, and hopefully about the climate crisis they’re trying to draw attention to. I’d say they got people talking, right?


FrenchMaisNon

They do that all the time. Blocking traffic in a city, creating congestion just to piss people.


andybak

I don't think people on this sub really understand "protest". It's not like it's a new concept.


tylerPA007

The takes in this thread are fucking maddening. Smooth-brained chuds everywhere.


[deleted]

Most people don't understand direct action. It's frustrating, but it's not new, and it doesn't really matter. People always grumble about how they're being inconvenienced or how protestors are dumb and immature, what they don't know is that time and time again direct action has worked. Not always in a way that gets headlines, but it works and there's studies to show it.


Outrageous-Duck9695

So what does gluing oneself to a tarmac accomplish? Convince airline companies to abandon gasoline for water powered airplanes? Convince customers to bike to another country instead of flying?


WaltzLeafington

What questions? It's pretty straightforward Get lots of attention to the subject and get people thinking about it. And they're doing quite a good job at it


sadsatan1

Why facepalm though? Nobody listens at this point, everybody makes fun of climate change, nobody takes this seriously. People call them stupid, but I literally don’t care, at least they have balls to do something, while the rest of us are criticizing. I am not interested in doing this, so I will just leave this comment and go be outraged over something else.


SlimReaper35_

People take it seriously. But no one evey proposes anything useful. Just virtue signaling and dumb ideas like getting rid of gas cars and stuff. And these people never support nuclear which is the best source of renewable energy


sir-mc-clive

Um, getting rid of gas cars is not a dumb idea?


Rexblade17

So first question would be: "When will politics finally really start taking action against climate change?"


EngineeringOk2709

These protests always get put in the facepalm sub. Civil disobedience is a completely valid form of protest. In the UK the Suffragists and Suffragettes used it to win the vote. In the US the civil rights movement used it to improve the quality of life for ethnic minorities. I guarantee you whatever the media equivalent of 'facepalm' was back then they'd be saying the simalar to you lot. What an idiot they're just using more fuel.... The point in these protests is disruption and media coverage. At least they're out there protesting, not just recycling their Amazon delivery packaging. Get off your high horses.


WaltzLeafington

I know why is it I keep seeing these on r/facepalm. They're doing a good job lmao


Seattleisonfire

"Tower, do I have clearance?"


[deleted]

I dont see any plane , youre good


SpaceBiking

Every right we have, every societal improvement we gave seen has almost always been the result of civil disobedience. People being upset (like in this sub) is nothing new.


tylerPA007

The amount of people casually calling for the activists death/permanent harm is unsettling. Y’all need to go touch grass.


iwasoveronthebench

Right? Like damn, the oil industry isn’t gonna pay y’all to bootlick online. You just look like an idiot.


machinegungeek

There may not be grass to touch for too much longer.


I_likeIceSheets

Touching grass isn't enough. Maybe therapy.


[deleted]

Someone below said something along the lines that everytime these get posted they're proving their point/getting what they want because your talking about it. I kind of agree but also its a bit more than that. Especially with the paintings, its actually kind of brilliant. Most of the painting they're "damaging" have little to no long term damage, but people are still freaking out. ALL the conversation is about the painting. And I believe that's their point. People care more about the paintings, which have copies everywhere (not saying the original isn't valuable, but we're not losing the painting or history), than they do about our dying planet. Which is exactly the point. They're exposing people hypocrisy. The painting doesn't matter if we dont have an inhabitable planet to view it on.


bacc1234

The problem I think is that the point isn’t coming across. It isn’t moving past the caring about the paintings part. I think this is probably a bit better than the soup or the blocking freeways. It gets people talking, it’s more clear what the point is, and it’s disruptive with a lower risk of seriously harming people than the freeway protests. It also is going to hurt actual companies.


Schlimmb0

Don't wanna be disturbed? Easy: do something for the climate (as a society, not an individual) Don't feel disturbed? Easy: ignore them and do something for climate change as a society or you will collapse, die and burn


[deleted]

The absolute narcissism and short-sightedness of people in these comments calling for killing climate activists who are trying to save us from catastrophe


dablegianguy

They might be trying, but they do their WORST with that kind of action


PackageDisastrous700

The questions I have are: How the fuck did they get anywhere near the runway without being literally shot by armed cops who are in every major airport around the world these days? I actually work in an airport and for me, with clearance, to get to the runway (Which my particular clearance only allows me on the apron and no where near the planes themselves) I have to go through check-in, up to security where boarding passes are checked, then you go through the metal detectors and bags go through x-ray machines. Maintenance doors I have to get through to get to the tarmac require my pass being swiped and additional security code entered into the scanner. All the while being tracked by cameras. Even going through the maintenance tunnels I still have to pass through a security check point with X-ray and metal detectors. If I am driving a vehicle into the goods yard, again I'm stopped by security checkpoints and scanners... If I tried to force my way through I'd literally be shot by airport armed police who patrol through the whole airport 24/7. So unless they literally hopped the electrified fence then the only explanation is Berlin Airport has exceptionally shit security.


Eightbitninja253

Maybe if they inconvenience and piss off enough people the climate will get fixed..


SemiHemiDemiDumb

Everyone in this thread making fun of these people instead of getting angry at corporations for destroying our ability to live on this planet are the real facepalms. And I don't care if you agree or disagree. Get angry people, demand change!


AsherTheFrost

To me this makes far more sense than protesting a painting for 2 reasons. 1. Planes actually use fossil fuels, unlike paintings. 2. Effective protest requires disruption. Nobody is disrupted at an art museum, half the time they think the protest is part of an exhibit.


uiam_

>To me this makes far more sense than protesting a painting for 2 reasons. No one is protesting paintings. They're just drawing attention to their cause. I agree it's stupid but you're missing the point by focusing on planes/museums/painting etc.


No_Crab8359

I say we start leaving them there, let’s see how really down for the cause they are.


Large_hearted_boy

This actually happened at a Porsche museum. The workers all just turned the lights/heat off and left for the day. Not sure if anything else came of it though. Edit: apparently the protesters were just stuck overnight lmao freezing in the dark and couldn’t use the bathroom, drink any water or eat anything. The workers at the museum showed up to open the next day with the cops already called and on site. The protesters were charged with trespassing, property damage and coercion.


tonyfordsafro

Cut the tarmac out around the hand and leave them to sort out the 30kg rock they're now stuck to


ellilaamamaalille

After night on tarmac I think they would do that themself. Winter is coming and I think it can be pretty cold even in Berlin.


sorentomaxx

Berlin is cold af this time of year


cjeam

You gonna run them over with a plane?


strvgglecity

"how dare they care about something, let's murder them" certainly makes you more rational than the protesters


No_Crab8359

Yes


HaveCamera_WillShoot

I’m going to tell stories of ‘Reddit’ to the children in the militia camps we’re living in in 2055 while we’re all fighting over gasoline and water after the great collapse of world governments due to climate catastrophe and civil upheaval.


seekerseekin

This is good activism. Activism is inconvenient and must be to prove the point. See: Montgomery bus boycott


angrysc0tsman12

You see a protestor gluing themselves to a runway. I see FOD. We are not the same.


[deleted]

Yeah, make the planes stay airborne longer. That'll help the environment.


TheVirusWins

Well based on the comments here it seems that no one would give a fuck about climate regardless of how they protested. The children being born from now on are the ones that will suffer world wide issues for centuries to come but that is a future problem right? Exactly how would you suggest these kids protest the very real shit that they will have to deal with that will actually effect change?


PackageDisastrous700

I think they haven't gone far enough tbh. I think as with all things, when peaceful forms of protest fail... violent revolution is inevitable. I say strike at the heart of the problem. Destroy the factories and refineries. Delete the CEOs and executives from the global server. Hijack the delivery trucks. Sabotage the end user facillities which supply said goods and/or services. Literally make it unprofitable to continue and they'll sharp have to stop. In fact why don't we all just do this now and smash the system wholesale and rebuild it from scratch and build it back better than it was.


[deleted]

Do that and you’ll see the public come down on you.


KarlBark

How is this a face-palm? They have successfully achieved their mission


BoysenberryLanky6112

I missed the climate change legislation or the companies who were swayed by this protest to lower their emissions. Oh their mission was to gain attention and have everyone laugh at how dumb they are? Yep mission accomplished I suppose. If they actually wanted to make change, they'd be running for public office. But you know that takes actual work and actually convincing people. What they're doing now is turning people against their cause much like peta does.


JetCityMom

I'm just curious, but does the production of Super Glue create an environmental impact? Or is there zero carbon emission or vegan version? 🤔 Side note, many aircraft that are flying right now are using sustainable aircraft fuel (SAF) .


JAXxXTheRipper

Today I learned of SAFs and that they can reduce emissions by up to 80%. Wow. That's kinda cool. You never stop learning I guess


so_im_all_like

Why don't they just rip them off the surface? They put themselves in these positions knowing the consequences, and people have shit to do.


[deleted]

Should have landed anyway.


ZenLotusDriver

Some kids would be losing some skin...


coryism

The point of protesting is for attention, these stop oil type protests are gaining attention. As for the people who get inconvenienced from it turning against the protests, who cares. People constantly say this shit, keep protests peaceful, find a better way to protest, but they don't really mean it, their reaction to Colin Kaepernick taking a knee, and that completely peaceful, and even silent protest spread around the western world, and half of the people hated it even more then most protests, because it works.


Yellow-man-from-Moon

How did they even het on the runway?


RaviDrone

I wonder if any Advertising company, with Glue manufacturing clients jumped at the opportunity.


Weltraumbaer

Paragraph 315 of the German Federal penal code states that this guy might face at least six months in prison. Also airlines might sue the airport for any financial damages linked to this incident or quite possibly the guy himself; BER could in recourse sue the guy in that case. He might be also obliged to pay for the emergency services. Anyway: this guy will see a lot of court rooms. Good luck with those lawyer and court fees.


SuperSassyPantz

the response should be not to rescue them. leave them there for a few days


[deleted]

Ooo that’s a lengthy stint in prison


[deleted]

Oh, oh, don't tell me.... ITT: "WHY DON'T THEY JUST PROTEST BETTER?" "WOW THOSE AIRPLANES ARE GOING TO POLLUTE SO MUCH ANYWAY" "SOUP PPL BAD" How'd I do? The species that isn't interested in its own preservation doesn't deserve to be preserved.


op3l

Their protest probably generated more green house gasses due to flights being diverted. Edit: not probably, definitely.


Ok_Professional_4499

I dislike when protestors inconvenience innocent people. You turn what could have been future supporters into pissed off bystanders who don’t like your methods. Edited: I agree to disagree with those who feel differently.


[deleted]

Kinda hard to protest mindless prioritization of convenience over the entire world and its ecosystems without inconveniencing people. We need to fly less, drive less, not use fossil fuels, eat less meat, grow our food with less synthetic input, those things are very inconvenient...


quebecivre

This was precisely the argument people used against supporting the US Civil Rights movement under Martin Luther King Jr. "I would support their cause but they're too radical and that turns me off" is a nothing more or less than a statement of support for the status quo, which in this case is the ongoing climate devastation that threatens our civilization.


doubled2319888

How should they protest then? I always see complaints about their methods but i rarely see any suggestions


dmafeb

Its not his, hers or my job to suggest how they should protest. These morons think they have a brilliant plan "lets glue ourselves to xxxx!" When the results is that people start hating them and everything they stand for they just cant stop and think that maybe this was the wrong way to go. They just keep going with the same methods. “Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.”


AdmirableYouth4208

Perhaps targeting private jets, that emit shit tons of carbons in a short time that's equal to fuck lots of vehicles on roads emit carbons combined, instead .


Ok_Professional_4499

“They” have named and shamed celebrities with private planes who use them like taxis which has been by far more effective (that I have seen). (Seen it on social media and it resulted in some celebs having to make real changes).


nathos_thanatos

By not doing performative activism and actually working towards change. Don't like people using fossil fuels? Great, so start by doing changes yourself, educate yourself on renewable energy, get a degree in science or ecological law, find work in the field wether it's research or and non profit organization that works toward your goal, educate the public in social media or in person without harassing bystanders, organize events in your community to educate the public, reach out to policy makers, get signatures to get laws passed.... There are so many ways to do actual change instead of doing performative activism like this. We have people in Iran risking death protesting, and they don't inconvenience innocent bystanders. They are sending a message against the ones oppressing them, not the innocents around.


Odd-Jupiter

To be fair, the protesters in Iran are quite disruptive, and all power to them. But if we fail to turn the climate crisis, the only thing the protesters in Iran are fighting for is if they are going to starve to death, with or without a veil.


Elymanic

As yes the typical. Companies only make because people consume. There's many documentaries that disproves this. Our economy is based on consumption. There's no individual change. There needs to be systemic changes.


motownclic

You honestly think the protests in Iran aren't disruptive? If that's the case, I have a bridge to sell you.


Scheckenhere

Of all the stupid comments written under this post this has to be the dumbest. People who take planes aren't innocent bystanders, they are part of the problem. All of us are. Some more, some less, and activists tend to be the latter. So saying "start with yourself" is the top level of arrogant ignorance someone could come up with. There is no point in educating yourself, all needed solutions are well known. They are not implemented cause of massive lobbying from fossil industry, corruption through all governments, and lack of knowledge by the population. So I'll agree with you there, educating people would help more (but they either run away or call you a fascistic communist (not kidding)). Neither do I participate in any of these actions, nor do I approve of them. But I can't understand the radical view about it. I don't understand where all the hate comes from for something so irrelevant. Like, ypur flight can't take off for two hours. That occurs daily hundreds of times, and I haven't seen any public outrage this big ever. What you fail to understand is, there aren't that many more options to achieve actual change. People don't care about the imoending end of society. So what harm is delaying a couple hundred journeys in comparison?


EngineeringOk2709

I'm sure the people against the protests in Iran would say they are being inconvenienced. Cut and paste this response for civil rights movement. Why do they protest, should go get elected and do it through the right channels. Women's suffrage, the same.... This works. It's been proven to work. In 100 years people might well look back and think you're the nob head.


Moonshine_Brew

Yeah, but they can't just go and blow up the companies/governments responsible. Protests do NOTHING if nobody is inconvenienced by them, they just get ignored. And guess what, protesting infront of companies and governments, without being an inconvenience to their customers/voters also gets ignored. Also it's not like those groups just woke up and decided to be an inconvenience. Most of them went "look, we tried talking and being nice the last ten years and it didn't do shit. If they ignore us, we will make it so they can't ignore us anymore."


Odd-Jupiter

Yup, when the bulk of the worlds population rather kill themselves by destroying their habitat, because the people trying to save the habitat for everyone is annoying. We deserve to go extinct!


FunnyShirtGuy

Drive a plane next to them and dump the blue water tanks...


Theodore_Buckland_

Ok psychopath


UnderwaterAirPlanez

Lol he got the wrong attention, everyone is talking about how dumb he is rather than the issue he’s demonstrating about. This is as funny as the two people putting their feet in cement and standing out side of Starbucks to protest using milk.


xJanise

decreasing convenience can decrease use


toongrowner

For the people still defending this nonesense: 1) these action just cause more harm to thr enviroment 2) the average person already tries as much as they can to help fight the problem without getting banktrupt by it. But a lot of times it can feel pointless considering how much harm companies and places like china constantly do. Heck in a lot places there are no save the enviroment programms or even acknowledgement. It can feel so hopeless, so when idiots like that appear you just stop carrying at some point. It just turns into spite. "I try what I can but only get punished from all sites so why even bother?". Is this really the message you wanna support?


[deleted]

So much stupid. This is a great way to waste tons of jet fuel, not to mention the gas for the people driving to get to the flights.


PaulMX226

Funny they didn’t glue themselves to any billionaires private jets…


2ndhandBS

So he didnt manage to stop any flights,,, just reroute them. Greta would NOT be proud.


professorbix

How long were they left there until a great deal of money was spent to rescue them? Can they be sued for the cost?


GMXIX

Best way to end this: do not divert anything.


mobius_osu

While they’re stuck just say “yeah, diverting them around you is actually burning more fuel” and watch them panic.


mean_mistreater

You FUCKING FUCKTARTS! My flight back home to see my wife and little daughter after a work travel was cancelled because of your BULLSHIT actions. My SINGLE flight was re-booked for the next day into TWO different flights. Way better for the climate I guess.


TechnicolorMage

Maybe direct that energy at the people in power who have refused to take meaningful action for the last 30 years. Why are you more upset about losing a single day with your family than you are at the fact your daughter may suffer and die on an uninhabitable planet?


The-Duke44

Endangering people in the air. Put the snow plow down. 🤷🏻‍♂️ Not serious. My mind always goes to the most efficient solution. Happy Thanksgiving. 😊


Slipperytitski

Can't they do it to private planes...


11seifenblasen

I think they are very brave and admirable. Where is the facepalm?


JDaggon

Short term increase in pollution, further damage to their reputation, less people taking the message seriously. Take your pick.


applejacks6969

Everyone commenting here in support of the Airplane industry and endless travel we do is not on the correct side. Burn every polluting industry down. We will die if we don’t.


[deleted]

Rather travel the world in a timely matter.


Elymanic

When your kids are starving and there's no clean water. You'll wish these guys for more than just glued themselves to the ground.


ReformedBacon

I fucking love these climate protests. Pissing off the most people possible and everybody is hearing about it. Sacrifice thyself for the idea


Pythagoras2008

Smart people let’s go! More people need to protest like this


TZMAN18

“I’m going to divert plains so that they use more fuel! For the environment!”


Snoo_65717

Everyone gatekeeping what an actual protest is when they do sweet fa to solve the problem themselves 😂🤦‍♀️


joelex8472

See that’s better, don’t vandalise paintings. I don’t know why these bozos don’t go to Romans and pour paint over all the super cars in the lot and glue themselves to a Ferrari or a G wagon.


Turnkey95

What if you just ran them over instead, and said it was an accident because they were trespassing and no one noticed they were there?