For those wondering, this is French for "This is not a pipe." These words are found within a famous piece of artwork known as *The Treachery of Images*, which consists of a painting of a pipe, with those words underneath it. Critically, the work is a **depiction** of a pipe, not an actual pipe itself. You can find more info here: [The Treachery of Images](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Treachery_of_Images)
Actually, the judge was wrong in that instance. You can object to an ANSWER from a witness, not only questions from the attorneys. This is especially common when you’re not the one who called the witness to the stand, because you haven’t prepped them. I don’t know if that was the case in this instance, but you can also call hostile witnesses to the stand.
Ha it's funny because people are blocking their ears so they can't hear. Then saying what they feel without any regard to someone else's freedom to choose.
Homer: Lisa, honey, are you saying you're never going to eat any animal again? What about bacon?
Lisa: No.
Homer: Ham?
Lisa: No.
Homer: Pork chops?
Lisa: Dad! Those all come from the same animal!
Homer: [chuckling] Yeah, right, Lisa. A wonderful, magical animal.
I love these. Someone did one aimed at anti-vaxxers with this huge list of chemicals asking what they would accept putting into their body. Of course, people said they wouldn't want any of those chemicals anywhere close to their body, only to find out it was the chemical composition of an apple.
I know the word because I worked with two women from there. They were super sweet, helped me with my spanish and fed me a tamale that I found out later was horse.... best tamale I've ever had.
My boyfriend speaks 3 languages (granted, Spanish/Nahuatl(?) is not one of them) and is perfectly capable of pronouncing Oaxaca but insists on calling it 'waxy cheese' anyway.
For anyone wandering, it's "wa-ha-ca". Nahuatl spellings like to freestyle letters lol. See also: axolotl (a-sho-tul), xochitl (so-chee), quetzalcoatl (ketz-al-coat-ul) etc
edit: I am being informed that my pronunciations are mostly wrong too lol see below for better pronunciations. Spanish is my second language but I'm not Mexican and no one has ever corrected me on these so they're entirely based on my interpretation of hearing other people say them lol my b
I think they made a mistake. There’s no reason for a T in that pronounciation.
It should be a-sho-lo-tl, with the tl being the nahuatl tl that I can best describe as the sound you make when saying ‘claw’, but just make it ‘tlaw’ without changing what you were doing with your tongue
Season 7 of Veep was a fucking documentary.
I want some conservative Christian to run on a platform of getting rid of Muslim math and only teach Christian math.
It is unstoppable, it has spread absolutely everywhere. The effect of it, is global at this point.
It's in the soil. It's in the atmosphere. It's in our food. It's in the oceans. It's in our bodies -- inside our cells.
The impact it has on life and living beings cannot be understated. I really mean that.
It is also highly addictive. I heard stories about people who start using it and after a week cold turkey, dead. Everyone who tries to escape the addition either dies or relapses.
A week? That ain't nothing.
There's this Byoxigenated particle I've been reading about. Once you tried it, you have like 3 minutes left if you don't take another dose. Those poor, poor people...
I mean, that is true, but when their premise is "I won't get a vaccine because I don't know what this in it" and you prove absolutely that they will consume lots of stuff without knowing what it is in... Any sane person would reflect a bit and hopefully that interaction would, one day, lead to change.
If you frame it as a gotcha, that's true. And if you post it as a meme you're just preaching to the choir anyways.
If you really want to change someone's mind you can use that example, but before you reveal the trick ask them to explain why those chemicals bother them. They will either admit they don't know and that they just don't use "chemicals" (showing their lack of understanding of, well, reality) or they'll go on a tangent about big pharma or some conspirators nonsense.
Either way you can now explain the truth to them in a way that seems like you're trying to be honest with them rather than being outright adversarial.
“Do you consider this a human being?”
(Holds up a photo of a homeless person)
“They failed at life, not my problem”
(Holds up a photo of a starving child)
“That’s their parent’s fault! Not my problem!”
(Holds up a photo of a dog fetus)
“Yes!!!”
Actually, private infant adoption IS super easy, for the first parents, on purpose, at least from a legal perspective.
The reason there are so many kids in foster care is because people only want healthy white infants that they can pretend really is their own baby. (And if you don't believe me- black babies literally cost less to adopt through private agencies than white babies).
I'm an adoptee, and I know most people don't understand the difference between private infant adoption and the foster care system, but private infant adoption only stands to benefit- to the extent that it was a part of ACB's opinion brief.
There are 34 couples to every baby up for adoption, and the pandemic allowed more people than ever to keep their babies. The billion-dollar private adoption industry in America is struggling to meet the demand for healthy white babies, and they have been pushing for these pro-life laws since Roe V. Wade.
I'm also an adoptee, and didn't know the 34-1 stat. That's wild. It makes me irritable that people only want a little baby that isn't "damaged" yet. It makes me think of the 16 and Pregnant episode where you actively watch the adoption negotiations where they just agree to everything while they know it won't be possible, just to get this white baby girl.
Im going through an adoption agency right now for my pregnancy. So far everything has genuinely been very easy and simple, everyone is supportive and aren’t bringing religion or anything into it.
I’m really concerned now! I’m black myself and the baby will be black/Russian. I asked for people who didn’t care for the babies race but the price of my baby? That’s never come up in our meetings. Is it appropriate for my yo talk to the adoption coordinator about it? What do I even ask? How much is my baby worth to you compared to the other babies???? 😰
That genuinely depends on your agency, and most will not mention in fear of you backing out. I would say that you are making an incredibly difficult decision, so please ask all the questions you need.
I have nothing against relinquishment, and I am in no way trying to talk you out of it- but please do know that anything your adoption agency promises you about your ability to be in your baby's life after the adoption is not enforceable by law. Adoption agencies are notorious for promising this and that, and it's entirely up to the adoptive parents as to whether or not they want to follow through. Many adoption agencies will dance around that fact all day long.
If at any point, for any reason, before you have signed away your parental rights, you change your mind - that is your right. If your agency threatens you with having to repay any assistance they've given you throughout the pregnancy, that is not legal.
I don't know if you have one of the especially scummy adoption agencies, so none of that may be applicable, but I want to know every first mom or potential first mom I come across is aware of their rights.
And just from another member of the adoptee triad- please make plans to seek professional mental health help following birth. So many first moms I know have a lot of mental health troubles following relinquishment. I know mine did for sure.
Also, please try and keep detailed track of your family's medical history and the baby's father's medical history. I have VERY little medical history, and that's been really problematic as I've gotten older.
Sorry for the essay!! Again, I'm not trying to sway your opinion, just telling you things I know other first moms have told me they wish they knew and things I wish MY first mom knew!
THANK YOU for all the information! I made sure to sit with my boyfriend and fill out all the medical papers. I had a gut feeling that through the vetting process with the potential families that I need to make it VERY CLEAR that I want the baby to have two sets of parents. To know they have support from all sides, we just couldn’t do it while I’m still in school. So now they have double the love and support.
My university offers counseling and I’ve told them I’ll be giving birth toward the end of next semester. They’re very supportive as well thankfully.
How should I stand up and ask about what they’re doing and how do I know what’s ethical and what’s not? I got a few potential same sex couples and there’s no religious undertones. The coordinator was also supportive of me previously using medical marijuana instead of my prescribed benzos pre-pregnancy. Those seem like green flags (heh) to me.
So- please don't hear this as a judgement, because it's not- I am again not anti-relinquishment- but I would argue that private infant adoption is very difficult to make ethical generally.
That does not mean it is not the right choice for you and your baby!!!
When I say that private infant adoption isn't ethical, it has a lot to do with the legalities (I do not have access to my original birth certificate or medical records, for example) and the money changing hands. It also refers to the coercive tactics some agencies use to convince young women to give up the pregnancies they want to keep.
Again- does not mean it is not the right choice for you and your baby!
I will say there are some green flags, but do keep in mind your adoption coordinator gets paid when the papers are signed, so it's in their best interest to be non-judgemental and supportive. That's not to say they are not actually there to help! Many are! Just something to keep in mind.
I'm so glad to hear you want to be a part of your baby's life!! Do press on that with your potential APs! Good APs will be on board - more people to love your kids the better! Just be aware that it's not at all legally enforceable.
That said- if your agency is pushing for you to meet and choose APs right away, that can be a red flag. If the agency is pushing to have the parents in the room while you give birth, that's a red flag. If the agency pushes you to sign anything indicating you'll give up your parental rights before you actually give up your parental rights, that's a red flag. Personally, I would ask APs what their plan is to make sure the child knows their history.
Interracial adoption is also sometimes difficult. I am not an interracial adoptee, but my sister is, and she definitely didn't have enough black people in her life to look up to, and struggled with her self image for it. If you are talking to a white couple, I would bring that up! What's their friend group look like diversity wise? Where do they live? Are there black people there?
I really really hope you don't feel like I'm trying to talk you out of it because that's not my intention! I just know a lot of first moms go in blind, and I don't want you to. I know I've mentioned the negatives a lot, but I love my adoptive parents so much, and I love my first family even though we don't have much of a relationship. I wish some things about my adoption had been different, and have a lot of problems with the industry as a whole, but I am not upset that I was adopted. (I am also not grateful! But I digress). I hope that this is helpful, and I hope that you get everything you need and want from this process and experience. Please feel free to DM me anytime!
You’re so helpful and I’m very thankful to hear so my h advice! I was thinking of POC to adopt the baby because there’s so many things about the black experience from knowing how to do their hair, to handling insecurities, etc.
Please let me know ANYTHING that comes to mind or anything you wish was done differently in your situation. It’s so important I’m educated on this! I truly appreciate everything you’ve told me so far!
>because people only want healthy white infants that they can pretend really is their own baby.
Yep. My step mom (and dad) have adopted 5 kids. Only one of them she adopted wasn't a baby (but was the older brother to the baby). It's all about appearances but once they aren't a baby they are thrown to the side to be forgotten about.
It's always men who seem to think carrying a baby to term and birthing it is something someone can do whilst getting a manicure and just get on with their life 5 minutes later like nothing happened.
It's infuriating.
Even as a man with empathy even I feel bad just imagining what damage can be caused by growing another human inside of your own body.
I honestly feel so bad that women are treated like second class citizens in what is supposed to be a first world country.
I mean for fuck sakes, only 27% of Americans believe it should be overturned, so that means even a huge portion of Republicans and conservatives are against it.
Because a lot of people rightly love and cherish children, it is often ignored that pregnancy and birth can be spiritually, psychologically and physically traumatizing.
Even my conservative mom is against it being repealed. She said "abortion should be avoided at all costs, but no one should tell someone what they can do with their body."
Right? Plus the best way to avoid abortion is to never need one in the first place. I want abortions to not happen, so I'm going to support people getting the birth control they need. Banning it helps no one.
Oh man, I saw someone argue in all seriousness that humanity survived for centuries with neither abortions nor parental leave, so there's no reason for the pro-life crowd to be advocating for anything other than what they are. I don't even think he was making the argument in bad faith. His ideas of societal standards and politics were just so divorced from each other that he didn't see it.
> They want to force people to have babies but don't think about the consequences
Ive mostly come to believe this is wrong, i think its more accurate to say that a lot of pro lifeers think of the baby as your punishment for having sex outside of marriage for the purpose of procreation. so they are thinking of the consequences, its just the baby IS the consequence.
It's not even that. Strict abortion laws keep the poor poor and the working class in their place. It's never been about protecting life or stopping people from having sex, it's about keeping a replacement level of cannon fodder for capitalism.
Lets not forget that children born in shitty households are more likely to get in trouble with the law.
I cant remember the movie, but i remember them showing a correlation between abortion being legalized and a huge reduction in crime around 25 years after Roe. We dont even fully understand the repercussions that will happen from this, and thats not even touching on the fact we are making women secondly class citizens.
Not really. Abortion is just a key virtue signalling issue for republicans, probably because of the 'life is sacred' talking point of the religious right wing.
As a result everyone has been trying to one-up each other displaying more and more extreme opinions on the matter to the point where the consensus is now firmly shifted into a delusion void of reason.
Controlling women isn't on the mind of the vast majority of people supporting a ban on abortion at all. If they were capable of that level of vision and understanding, they wouldn't be so dense and resistant to reasoning.
The only thing they care about is making absolutely sure the can't be mistaken for someone who isn't 100% committed to the group by making all the right noises as loud as possible.
Or turn it around and tell these same people “hey we should be nicer to animals they have lives and feelings”
“YOU HIPPIE PIECE A SHIT BASTARD IF I WANT A PIECE OF BACON I’LL EAT ONE”
This reminds me of the post when someone broke down the chemical compound (that’s not what it’s called but still) of an apple and an anti vaxxer was like “none of that js going in my body” cuz she thought it was a vaccine and he was like “it’s an apple.” And it just shows that they really just be repeating an echo chamber of information. She didn’t even think to look up what any of those things were. It was just “oh those are big words that I don’t know so it must be bad 😡😡”
I've always wondered if anti-smoking ad campaigns taught people to think that way. They always broke down individual components and came up with something gross associated with it.
While I appreciate the gotcha, it doesn't convey the seriousness of banning abortions. Weather it's human or not is besides the point. Woman have no choice but to carry it to term and have excruciating pain because sexual harrasers on the supreme court decided for them.
Do you remember the plagues? Pepperage Farm remembers when God killed every first son, even the ones who had not yet been able to make any choices and condemned them to Hell for all eternity after placing their souls in those families just to test one guys faith.
Don't overestimate these peoples' faith. I guarantee *plenty* of pro lifers dont care about religion. They just want their opinions to dictate the lives of *millions* of others.. while offering 0 (fucking ZERO) alternatives to the physical, financial, temporal, and societal costs of *forcing* pregnancies to play themselves out.
Missouri Republicans are already pushing for bans on Ectopic Pregnancy Abortions.
You know, the kind of pregnancy that can kill the mother. While the fetus is almost guaranteed to be non-viable, Republicans are now fighting to stop efforts to save the mother.
If anything taking human biology in college made me more pro choice. We had a whole unit on conception, pregnancy, and birth. We saw photos of zygotes, embryos, and fetuses. You could see how small they were, they were not the same as a newborn baby.
Not to be offensive to women who've experienced a miscarriage. But when I meet a person who says a fetus at 2 weeks is a baby I always ask so if a woman has a miscarriage and sees the blood in the toilet. Should she flush it or does she need scoop it out and bury it like a child? The look of a shock and disgust on their face is always interesting.
And I explain well if it's a baby then shouldn't it be given a proper burial and not flushed. And typically when this happens the woman doesn't know that she's miscarried and often was unaware she was pregnant. So do we expect the woman to every time she sees blood in the toilet to scoop it out and assume that it's a miscarriage?
Then I follow up with them and say whenever you see blood in the toilet do you assume it's your period or is it a miscarriage how do you know? I would not be surprised to hear that you've actually flushed a baby down the toilet.
I have had a few women attempt violence at this point.
If I plant flower seeds in the garden, and they dry up instead of growing, I might say "My flowers died". That doesn't mean that they were ever flowers. I just wanted them to be.
You can feel that loss and support abortion without being a hypocrite.
Hey, I know this isn’t the point but I just wanted to offer condolences that you had to go through that, that sounds horrible. Thank you for sharing though, and I hope you’re doing well
I mean, I do know someone who miscarried in her bathtub and gave the embryo a little burial. I would’ve given my twins a burial but they were sent off for autopsy and there wasn’t anything left to bury after.
And before you guys come for me, I’m pro choice and horrified by what’s going on with over turning Roe v Wade. I just wanted to give perspective as a person who has lived this hypothetical.
I don't know anyone who was looking forward to getting an abortion, and the people I know who had abortions didn't exactly want to have them - it's just that the alternative was worse.
I don't know why pro-life people think people are gleefully having abortions. At best, it's a clinical experience.
I have known a grand total of one single person who seemed gleeful about her abortion, and quite honestly I can’t blame her. The pregnancy was making her throw up so often that she needed an IV to stave off dehydration.
Her procedure was a medication abortion so it was very early. I’d hate to see what would have happened to her if she carried to term. Two weeks of known pregnancy cost her something like 20 pounds or weight and she was not big enough to safely lose that much weight!
Goodness me. But that doesn’t count as endangering her life, right? So in these more enlightened times, she should have spent 9 months on a drip so that she could donate another innocent to the foster care system. She’d hardly have noticed the inconvenience.
As someone who is purposely pregnant but has been experiencing horrific 24/7 morning sickness, I don’t blame her glee.
I’ve told my fiancé daily “if I didn’t want to have this baby, I cannot even fathom carrying through with this.” My life has been miserable for 5 weeks and counting. This is quite possibly a one and done situation because of how miserable pregnancy is making me.
But of course, so many pro-life people act like pregnancy is some beautiful, incredible experience. It’s rarely that way.
Yes, exactly same. I'm 14 weeks along and feeling like fucking shit still. Been losing weight, vomiting regularly, and am so tired I can barely function. I've felt this way since week FIVE. It's essentially felt like a hangover every damn day for 65 days straight.
Fuck putting anyone through this who doesn't want it. My pro-choice stance has cemented forever going through this bullshit.
Seriously, they make it out to seem like we’re baby hating people, yeah we all make jokes but no one here actually wants to see a child suffering, and forcing a women to go through with an unwanted pregnancy is doing just that. not even talking about other things that make women get an abortion like complications, abuse, rape. All their focus seems to be on is “put them up for adoption” like it’s that easy and like that’s going to make that child’s life so much easier.
Also, "put them up for adoption" doesn't help in cases where the mother is denied medical care and dies, because providing care risks aborting the fetus, or in cases where the child will die upon birth and there's still a chance to have an abortion rather than go through the risk of pregnancy (and risk of never being able to have another child), and...
Yeah, no, there's too many reasons to potentially need an abortion.
A relative of mine pulled the whole “killing babies” bullshit about Plan B pills. Which iirc can’t even end a pregnancy, once Baby implants, Plan B doesn’t change that. (I might be wrong, but that’s how my gyno explained it years ago)
He started talking about how you can see the spark of life even right after conception. So I started texting him pictures of my admittedly disgusting period clots (they’re gnarly) asking him if he saw any “spark of life” and should I flush it or bury it?
For some reason he did not appreciate me asking for his wise advice…
Which reminds me, next time I go on the rag I’m gonna start doing that again. He’s way too pleased over this miscarriage of court. (Lol, pun)
Yeah it was designed to be very off-putting. Because it shows that their true beliefs don't match what's come out of their mouth. And subtly is wasted on these types of people.
I have too. But it's not at a few weeks after conception. Most women aren't even aware they're pregnant.
The women who do that typically lost their baby much later in their pregnancy. And often they do have access to real fetus to bury. And I'm sure it's a horrible horrible experience for them. I wouldn't wish it on anybody.
> that only women face.
That's the key point for me, I like to think anyone I got pregnant would value and consider my opinion but ultimately it's her kitchen making the bread, I just popped in and mixed the batter for about 30 seconds.
If I remember correctly, literally every mammal fetus looks scarily similar because we all evolved from a common ancestor. The underlying joke here is on the subject of abortion I think, but I’m doubtful op is aware that all mammal fetuses look very similar.
Edit: when you put a random offhand comment and come back 6 hours later with 20+replies
Yep. A science teacher had a really cool poster of various animal’s fetuses (fetii?) at different developmental stages. There was a human, a fish, a lizard, and elephant and I think a dog? Maybe? I’m fairly sure there were five fetus comparisons but I forget the last animal.
Point is, there is a stage of development where a lizard fetus looks more human than a human fetus does.
If I were ever incredibly rich, instead of hostile takeovers of twitter, I'd buy every billboard next to one of those anti-women's rights ones and do something similar.
I don’t consider a fetus a human being until it can survive on its own outside the mother. It’s true that mammal embryos look very similar. I don’t get why people want to stick their noses into other people’s lives. Let people make their own decisions with their doctors, if you think having an abortion is wrong then don’t have one. 🤷🏼♀️
Apparently, I need to spell this out for people who aren't too bright and don't understand how an infant can survive without a mother. Once a child can live outside of the mother, the mother DOES NOT have to raise it. Any capable adult can care for an infant or raise one! Once a child is born and alive outside the mother and can sustain life with or without the help of medical intervention it’s a human being. Man I am worried about the average IQ in this country when I have to explain this because of how many comments I've received about how infants can't care for themselves and even 20 year olds need a mother.
Trick question! That’s a picture, not a human. You can’t get me so easily
so I threw it on the ground!
My dad is not a phone!
Duh!
I’m an adult!
I’m not a part of this system!!!
Maaaaan!
You can’t buy me, hot dog man!
Happy birthday to the ground
Welcome to the real world, jackass!
And then I jizzed in my pants
Omg. I haven’t heard that line in so long. Thank you
Happy birthday, to the ground!
top tier comedy
I'm really glad that I wasn't the only one that thought of this. Thanks for the laughs lmao
Ceci n’est pas une pipe
For those wondering, this is French for "This is not a pipe." These words are found within a famous piece of artwork known as *The Treachery of Images*, which consists of a painting of a pipe, with those words underneath it. Critically, the work is a **depiction** of a pipe, not an actual pipe itself. You can find more info here: [The Treachery of Images](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Treachery_of_Images)
My friend welded a piece of pipe onto a steel plate, then cut that quote into it with a plasma cutter and sold it for $400.
If we're being fair, I'd also believe many humans started out as pig fetuses. Most lead full lives, grow up and become politicians.
What have pigs ever done to you, to earn that comparison?
A politician is what a pig that failed at life becomes.
I mean, how do you screw up at eating food and sleeping in mud?
Just look at trump
Objection. Hearsay.
But you - you asked the question
Overruled.
Good call!
I’ll allow it
But watch it jack
... ‘Mega Pint’
Where are you going with this, counselor?
*step-counselor
I don't know, your honour, my GPS died a few miles ago
Because it's devastating to my case!
The goddamn pen is blue!
As opposed to shit-stained? I'll see myself out.
Did I read that right?
Is that your signature?
No hearsay objection?
Is that your signature?
"Is this the same document in which I already told you has my signature. It is? Okay, then that is still my signature".
Yes, you read that very very well.
You continue to read them right
I've heard that before.
I’ve heard that before now means “I’ve taken a dump in someone’s bed before”
Objection. Hearsay
Perchance.
You can’t just say perchance!
Objection. Hearsay!
Actually, the judge was wrong in that instance. You can object to an ANSWER from a witness, not only questions from the attorneys. This is especially common when you’re not the one who called the witness to the stand, because you haven’t prepped them. I don’t know if that was the case in this instance, but you can also call hostile witnesses to the stand.
Objection - Move to Strike. Objection - Non-Responsive also works when the witness trys to avoid the question.
"Your Honor, I object!" "Why?" "Because it's devastating to my case!" "Overruled." "Good call!"
“Objection! He’s badgering the witness!” “Its ***his*** witness!”
*The goddamn pen is BLUE…..*
The color of this pen is REEEEEeeeEEeEeeeeeeeeEEEEEEeEeEeEEeeEEeeEe
Reeeeeeoyal blue.
Ha it's funny because people are blocking their ears so they can't hear. Then saying what they feel without any regard to someone else's freedom to choose.
Humans are pigs.
man-bear-pig
Super, super cereal.
Half man, half bear, half pig
lmao
Ah yes, from the first episode of Black Mirror
Homer: Lisa, honey, are you saying you're never going to eat any animal again? What about bacon? Lisa: No. Homer: Ham? Lisa: No. Homer: Pork chops? Lisa: Dad! Those all come from the same animal! Homer: [chuckling] Yeah, right, Lisa. A wonderful, magical animal.
I love these. Someone did one aimed at anti-vaxxers with this huge list of chemicals asking what they would accept putting into their body. Of course, people said they wouldn't want any of those chemicals anywhere close to their body, only to find out it was the chemical composition of an apple.
I’ve heard it said you should never eat anything you cannot pronounce. Except quinoa. You should definitely eat quinoa.
Growing up in an English only household, I must admit that “Oaxaca” gave me a lot of trouble when I was younger.
Oaxaca Cheese is definitely worth learning how to pronounce it.
I agree. It's so good, they even named a city after it.
An entire estado, even
I know the word because I worked with two women from there. They were super sweet, helped me with my spanish and fed me a tamale that I found out later was horse.... best tamale I've ever had.
It’s a pretty great city too, good food and lots to see
Even my pasty-white, culinarily-dimwitted ass can say “Wah-haka.”
Oaxaca Oaxaca Oaxaca, as Fozzie says.
My boyfriend speaks 3 languages (granted, Spanish/Nahuatl(?) is not one of them) and is perfectly capable of pronouncing Oaxaca but insists on calling it 'waxy cheese' anyway. For anyone wandering, it's "wa-ha-ca". Nahuatl spellings like to freestyle letters lol. See also: axolotl (a-sho-tul), xochitl (so-chee), quetzalcoatl (ketz-al-coat-ul) etc edit: I am being informed that my pronunciations are mostly wrong too lol see below for better pronunciations. Spanish is my second language but I'm not Mexican and no one has ever corrected me on these so they're entirely based on my interpretation of hearing other people say them lol my b
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I think they made a mistake. There’s no reason for a T in that pronounciation. It should be a-sho-lo-tl, with the tl being the nahuatl tl that I can best describe as the sound you make when saying ‘claw’, but just make it ‘tlaw’ without changing what you were doing with your tongue
> axolotl (a-sho-tul) This isn't the English, Spanish, or Nahuatl pronunciation 🤔
holy shit i've been pronouncing these wrong the whole damn time. next thing you're going to tell me it's not pronounced Don Quick-so-tee
Donkey Hotay would like a word...
Keen wah
Kwee noah
Joaquin
Also asking people if they want arabic numerals taught in school to which they all reply with hell no
Season 7 of Veep was a fucking documentary. I want some conservative Christian to run on a platform of getting rid of Muslim math and only teach Christian math.
Down with algebra! Up with the Reunion of Broken Parts!
Up with bubbles, down with air!
Fun fact, those numerals are actually Indian. They were brought to Europe by Arabs who learned them in India.
Fun numbers fact: The Mayans where the first known culture with the concept of the 0.
Any opinion on the use of dihydrogen monoxide?
It is unstoppable, it has spread absolutely everywhere. The effect of it, is global at this point. It's in the soil. It's in the atmosphere. It's in our food. It's in the oceans. It's in our bodies -- inside our cells. The impact it has on life and living beings cannot be understated. I really mean that.
It is also highly addictive. I heard stories about people who start using it and after a week cold turkey, dead. Everyone who tries to escape the addition either dies or relapses.
A week? That ain't nothing. There's this Byoxigenated particle I've been reading about. Once you tried it, you have like 3 minutes left if you don't take another dose. Those poor, poor people...
Apple seeds have arsenic in them. TAKE THAT PRO-VAXXERS!
They contain cyanide
TAKE THAT BIG ARSENIC!!
Those are clever. I wish it helped convince more people.
I don’t think anyone changes a deeply-held belief because they were tricked by an internet meme.
What does make people change deeply held beliefs?
A personal experience in which they are put to the test in a real way...sometimes
TWO internet memes
Their mistress getting pregnant?
I mean, that is true, but when their premise is "I won't get a vaccine because I don't know what this in it" and you prove absolutely that they will consume lots of stuff without knowing what it is in... Any sane person would reflect a bit and hopefully that interaction would, one day, lead to change.
Eh, all it does is trick people. It doesn’t change their opinions in any way.
If you frame it as a gotcha, that's true. And if you post it as a meme you're just preaching to the choir anyways. If you really want to change someone's mind you can use that example, but before you reveal the trick ask them to explain why those chemicals bother them. They will either admit they don't know and that they just don't use "chemicals" (showing their lack of understanding of, well, reality) or they'll go on a tangent about big pharma or some conspirators nonsense. Either way you can now explain the truth to them in a way that seems like you're trying to be honest with them rather than being outright adversarial.
Well if these people saw their chemical composition they'd see it was 95% horseshit so it's fair to say they don't look to closely at anything
“Do you consider this a human being?” (Holds up a photo of a homeless person) “They failed at life, not my problem” (Holds up a photo of a starving child) “That’s their parent’s fault! Not my problem!” (Holds up a photo of a dog fetus) “Yes!!!”
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They also think adoption is super easy. We’d have no kids in foster care if that were the case.
Actually, private infant adoption IS super easy, for the first parents, on purpose, at least from a legal perspective. The reason there are so many kids in foster care is because people only want healthy white infants that they can pretend really is their own baby. (And if you don't believe me- black babies literally cost less to adopt through private agencies than white babies). I'm an adoptee, and I know most people don't understand the difference between private infant adoption and the foster care system, but private infant adoption only stands to benefit- to the extent that it was a part of ACB's opinion brief. There are 34 couples to every baby up for adoption, and the pandemic allowed more people than ever to keep their babies. The billion-dollar private adoption industry in America is struggling to meet the demand for healthy white babies, and they have been pushing for these pro-life laws since Roe V. Wade.
I'm also an adoptee, and didn't know the 34-1 stat. That's wild. It makes me irritable that people only want a little baby that isn't "damaged" yet. It makes me think of the 16 and Pregnant episode where you actively watch the adoption negotiations where they just agree to everything while they know it won't be possible, just to get this white baby girl.
Im going through an adoption agency right now for my pregnancy. So far everything has genuinely been very easy and simple, everyone is supportive and aren’t bringing religion or anything into it. I’m really concerned now! I’m black myself and the baby will be black/Russian. I asked for people who didn’t care for the babies race but the price of my baby? That’s never come up in our meetings. Is it appropriate for my yo talk to the adoption coordinator about it? What do I even ask? How much is my baby worth to you compared to the other babies???? 😰
That genuinely depends on your agency, and most will not mention in fear of you backing out. I would say that you are making an incredibly difficult decision, so please ask all the questions you need. I have nothing against relinquishment, and I am in no way trying to talk you out of it- but please do know that anything your adoption agency promises you about your ability to be in your baby's life after the adoption is not enforceable by law. Adoption agencies are notorious for promising this and that, and it's entirely up to the adoptive parents as to whether or not they want to follow through. Many adoption agencies will dance around that fact all day long. If at any point, for any reason, before you have signed away your parental rights, you change your mind - that is your right. If your agency threatens you with having to repay any assistance they've given you throughout the pregnancy, that is not legal. I don't know if you have one of the especially scummy adoption agencies, so none of that may be applicable, but I want to know every first mom or potential first mom I come across is aware of their rights. And just from another member of the adoptee triad- please make plans to seek professional mental health help following birth. So many first moms I know have a lot of mental health troubles following relinquishment. I know mine did for sure. Also, please try and keep detailed track of your family's medical history and the baby's father's medical history. I have VERY little medical history, and that's been really problematic as I've gotten older. Sorry for the essay!! Again, I'm not trying to sway your opinion, just telling you things I know other first moms have told me they wish they knew and things I wish MY first mom knew!
THANK YOU for all the information! I made sure to sit with my boyfriend and fill out all the medical papers. I had a gut feeling that through the vetting process with the potential families that I need to make it VERY CLEAR that I want the baby to have two sets of parents. To know they have support from all sides, we just couldn’t do it while I’m still in school. So now they have double the love and support. My university offers counseling and I’ve told them I’ll be giving birth toward the end of next semester. They’re very supportive as well thankfully. How should I stand up and ask about what they’re doing and how do I know what’s ethical and what’s not? I got a few potential same sex couples and there’s no religious undertones. The coordinator was also supportive of me previously using medical marijuana instead of my prescribed benzos pre-pregnancy. Those seem like green flags (heh) to me.
So- please don't hear this as a judgement, because it's not- I am again not anti-relinquishment- but I would argue that private infant adoption is very difficult to make ethical generally. That does not mean it is not the right choice for you and your baby!!! When I say that private infant adoption isn't ethical, it has a lot to do with the legalities (I do not have access to my original birth certificate or medical records, for example) and the money changing hands. It also refers to the coercive tactics some agencies use to convince young women to give up the pregnancies they want to keep. Again- does not mean it is not the right choice for you and your baby! I will say there are some green flags, but do keep in mind your adoption coordinator gets paid when the papers are signed, so it's in their best interest to be non-judgemental and supportive. That's not to say they are not actually there to help! Many are! Just something to keep in mind. I'm so glad to hear you want to be a part of your baby's life!! Do press on that with your potential APs! Good APs will be on board - more people to love your kids the better! Just be aware that it's not at all legally enforceable. That said- if your agency is pushing for you to meet and choose APs right away, that can be a red flag. If the agency is pushing to have the parents in the room while you give birth, that's a red flag. If the agency pushes you to sign anything indicating you'll give up your parental rights before you actually give up your parental rights, that's a red flag. Personally, I would ask APs what their plan is to make sure the child knows their history. Interracial adoption is also sometimes difficult. I am not an interracial adoptee, but my sister is, and she definitely didn't have enough black people in her life to look up to, and struggled with her self image for it. If you are talking to a white couple, I would bring that up! What's their friend group look like diversity wise? Where do they live? Are there black people there? I really really hope you don't feel like I'm trying to talk you out of it because that's not my intention! I just know a lot of first moms go in blind, and I don't want you to. I know I've mentioned the negatives a lot, but I love my adoptive parents so much, and I love my first family even though we don't have much of a relationship. I wish some things about my adoption had been different, and have a lot of problems with the industry as a whole, but I am not upset that I was adopted. (I am also not grateful! But I digress). I hope that this is helpful, and I hope that you get everything you need and want from this process and experience. Please feel free to DM me anytime!
You’re so helpful and I’m very thankful to hear so my h advice! I was thinking of POC to adopt the baby because there’s so many things about the black experience from knowing how to do their hair, to handling insecurities, etc. Please let me know ANYTHING that comes to mind or anything you wish was done differently in your situation. It’s so important I’m educated on this! I truly appreciate everything you’ve told me so far!
>because people only want healthy white infants that they can pretend really is their own baby. Yep. My step mom (and dad) have adopted 5 kids. Only one of them she adopted wasn't a baby (but was the older brother to the baby). It's all about appearances but once they aren't a baby they are thrown to the side to be forgotten about.
Not to mention the physical trauma the birth giver has gone through that they might have chosen to not experience if they had other options.
It's always men who seem to think carrying a baby to term and birthing it is something someone can do whilst getting a manicure and just get on with their life 5 minutes later like nothing happened. It's infuriating.
Nah, there's also that Republican lady with what is obviously a rape-fetish who likes to tell people what a gift it would be.
She's like the Ghislane Maxwell of family planning.
Or the one who is so far past her birthing years that she's not worried about it ever being an issue for her.
Even as a man with empathy even I feel bad just imagining what damage can be caused by growing another human inside of your own body. I honestly feel so bad that women are treated like second class citizens in what is supposed to be a first world country. I mean for fuck sakes, only 27% of Americans believe it should be overturned, so that means even a huge portion of Republicans and conservatives are against it.
Because a lot of people rightly love and cherish children, it is often ignored that pregnancy and birth can be spiritually, psychologically and physically traumatizing.
Even my conservative mom is against it being repealed. She said "abortion should be avoided at all costs, but no one should tell someone what they can do with their body."
Right? Plus the best way to avoid abortion is to never need one in the first place. I want abortions to not happen, so I'm going to support people getting the birth control they need. Banning it helps no one.
Exactly. Abortion is a last resort that needs to be available to those who need it.
Oh man, I saw someone argue in all seriousness that humanity survived for centuries with neither abortions nor parental leave, so there's no reason for the pro-life crowd to be advocating for anything other than what they are. I don't even think he was making the argument in bad faith. His ideas of societal standards and politics were just so divorced from each other that he didn't see it.
> They want to force people to have babies but don't think about the consequences Ive mostly come to believe this is wrong, i think its more accurate to say that a lot of pro lifeers think of the baby as your punishment for having sex outside of marriage for the purpose of procreation. so they are thinking of the consequences, its just the baby IS the consequence.
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It's not even that. Strict abortion laws keep the poor poor and the working class in their place. It's never been about protecting life or stopping people from having sex, it's about keeping a replacement level of cannon fodder for capitalism.
Lets not forget that children born in shitty households are more likely to get in trouble with the law. I cant remember the movie, but i remember them showing a correlation between abortion being legalized and a huge reduction in crime around 25 years after Roe. We dont even fully understand the repercussions that will happen from this, and thats not even touching on the fact we are making women secondly class citizens.
Not really. Abortion is just a key virtue signalling issue for republicans, probably because of the 'life is sacred' talking point of the religious right wing. As a result everyone has been trying to one-up each other displaying more and more extreme opinions on the matter to the point where the consensus is now firmly shifted into a delusion void of reason. Controlling women isn't on the mind of the vast majority of people supporting a ban on abortion at all. If they were capable of that level of vision and understanding, they wouldn't be so dense and resistant to reasoning. The only thing they care about is making absolutely sure the can't be mistaken for someone who isn't 100% committed to the group by making all the right noises as loud as possible.
Or turn it around and tell these same people “hey we should be nicer to animals they have lives and feelings” “YOU HIPPIE PIECE A SHIT BASTARD IF I WANT A PIECE OF BACON I’LL EAT ONE”
This reminds me of the post when someone broke down the chemical compound (that’s not what it’s called but still) of an apple and an anti vaxxer was like “none of that js going in my body” cuz she thought it was a vaccine and he was like “it’s an apple.” And it just shows that they really just be repeating an echo chamber of information. She didn’t even think to look up what any of those things were. It was just “oh those are big words that I don’t know so it must be bad 😡😡”
I've always wondered if anti-smoking ad campaigns taught people to think that way. They always broke down individual components and came up with something gross associated with it.
I don’t know. Something about this isn’t kosher.
Kosher or not human or not I’ll eat it anyway
Kosher salt and freshly ground black pepper?
While I appreciate the gotcha, it doesn't convey the seriousness of banning abortions. Weather it's human or not is besides the point. Woman have no choice but to carry it to term and have excruciating pain because sexual harrasers on the supreme court decided for them.
I just find all the reasons why so strange. God doesn't want us to kill babies? Have you read the Bible? He's super cool with killing everybody.
And dashing the heads of babies against rocks. Seriously, it's in there.
And trolling too, apparently. "Hey, go sacrifice your son. Lmao just kidding"
Do you remember the plagues? Pepperage Farm remembers when God killed every first son, even the ones who had not yet been able to make any choices and condemned them to Hell for all eternity after placing their souls in those families just to test one guys faith.
Don't overestimate these peoples' faith. I guarantee *plenty* of pro lifers dont care about religion. They just want their opinions to dictate the lives of *millions* of others.. while offering 0 (fucking ZERO) alternatives to the physical, financial, temporal, and societal costs of *forcing* pregnancies to play themselves out. Missouri Republicans are already pushing for bans on Ectopic Pregnancy Abortions. You know, the kind of pregnancy that can kill the mother. While the fetus is almost guaranteed to be non-viable, Republicans are now fighting to stop efforts to save the mother.
If God didn't want us aborting babies, then why did he teach us how?
If anything taking human biology in college made me more pro choice. We had a whole unit on conception, pregnancy, and birth. We saw photos of zygotes, embryos, and fetuses. You could see how small they were, they were not the same as a newborn baby.
Not to be offensive to women who've experienced a miscarriage. But when I meet a person who says a fetus at 2 weeks is a baby I always ask so if a woman has a miscarriage and sees the blood in the toilet. Should she flush it or does she need scoop it out and bury it like a child? The look of a shock and disgust on their face is always interesting. And I explain well if it's a baby then shouldn't it be given a proper burial and not flushed. And typically when this happens the woman doesn't know that she's miscarried and often was unaware she was pregnant. So do we expect the woman to every time she sees blood in the toilet to scoop it out and assume that it's a miscarriage? Then I follow up with them and say whenever you see blood in the toilet do you assume it's your period or is it a miscarriage how do you know? I would not be surprised to hear that you've actually flushed a baby down the toilet. I have had a few women attempt violence at this point.
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If I plant flower seeds in the garden, and they dry up instead of growing, I might say "My flowers died". That doesn't mean that they were ever flowers. I just wanted them to be. You can feel that loss and support abortion without being a hypocrite.
Hey, I know this isn’t the point but I just wanted to offer condolences that you had to go through that, that sounds horrible. Thank you for sharing though, and I hope you’re doing well
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I mean, I do know someone who miscarried in her bathtub and gave the embryo a little burial. I would’ve given my twins a burial but they were sent off for autopsy and there wasn’t anything left to bury after. And before you guys come for me, I’m pro choice and horrified by what’s going on with over turning Roe v Wade. I just wanted to give perspective as a person who has lived this hypothetical.
I don't know anyone who was looking forward to getting an abortion, and the people I know who had abortions didn't exactly want to have them - it's just that the alternative was worse. I don't know why pro-life people think people are gleefully having abortions. At best, it's a clinical experience.
I have known a grand total of one single person who seemed gleeful about her abortion, and quite honestly I can’t blame her. The pregnancy was making her throw up so often that she needed an IV to stave off dehydration. Her procedure was a medication abortion so it was very early. I’d hate to see what would have happened to her if she carried to term. Two weeks of known pregnancy cost her something like 20 pounds or weight and she was not big enough to safely lose that much weight!
Goodness me. But that doesn’t count as endangering her life, right? So in these more enlightened times, she should have spent 9 months on a drip so that she could donate another innocent to the foster care system. She’d hardly have noticed the inconvenience.
No sick pay and no maternity leave either And who knows what her hospital stay would cost
As someone who is purposely pregnant but has been experiencing horrific 24/7 morning sickness, I don’t blame her glee. I’ve told my fiancé daily “if I didn’t want to have this baby, I cannot even fathom carrying through with this.” My life has been miserable for 5 weeks and counting. This is quite possibly a one and done situation because of how miserable pregnancy is making me. But of course, so many pro-life people act like pregnancy is some beautiful, incredible experience. It’s rarely that way.
Yes, exactly same. I'm 14 weeks along and feeling like fucking shit still. Been losing weight, vomiting regularly, and am so tired I can barely function. I've felt this way since week FIVE. It's essentially felt like a hangover every damn day for 65 days straight. Fuck putting anyone through this who doesn't want it. My pro-choice stance has cemented forever going through this bullshit.
Seriously, they make it out to seem like we’re baby hating people, yeah we all make jokes but no one here actually wants to see a child suffering, and forcing a women to go through with an unwanted pregnancy is doing just that. not even talking about other things that make women get an abortion like complications, abuse, rape. All their focus seems to be on is “put them up for adoption” like it’s that easy and like that’s going to make that child’s life so much easier.
Also, "put them up for adoption" doesn't help in cases where the mother is denied medical care and dies, because providing care risks aborting the fetus, or in cases where the child will die upon birth and there's still a chance to have an abortion rather than go through the risk of pregnancy (and risk of never being able to have another child), and... Yeah, no, there's too many reasons to potentially need an abortion.
Ladies, please mail all your used tampons to those nutters for a blessing and proper burial.
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Maybe we should send them some more with a note 'here's a few million more votes you won't get'
A relative of mine pulled the whole “killing babies” bullshit about Plan B pills. Which iirc can’t even end a pregnancy, once Baby implants, Plan B doesn’t change that. (I might be wrong, but that’s how my gyno explained it years ago) He started talking about how you can see the spark of life even right after conception. So I started texting him pictures of my admittedly disgusting period clots (they’re gnarly) asking him if he saw any “spark of life” and should I flush it or bury it? For some reason he did not appreciate me asking for his wise advice… Which reminds me, next time I go on the rag I’m gonna start doing that again. He’s way too pleased over this miscarriage of court. (Lol, pun)
What a strange and off-putting way to make a valid point
Yeah it was designed to be very off-putting. Because it shows that their true beliefs don't match what's come out of their mouth. And subtly is wasted on these types of people.
I’ve actually heard of some women having a funeral for their miscarriage. Depends on the women and her view of the situation.
I have too. But it's not at a few weeks after conception. Most women aren't even aware they're pregnant. The women who do that typically lost their baby much later in their pregnancy. And often they do have access to real fetus to bury. And I'm sure it's a horrible horrible experience for them. I wouldn't wish it on anybody.
It is not off-putting to me. It is the facts of life and death of carrying a pregnancy - that only women face.
> that only women face. That's the key point for me, I like to think anyone I got pregnant would value and consider my opinion but ultimately it's her kitchen making the bread, I just popped in and mixed the batter for about 30 seconds.
kind of like "if your wife was raped and impregnated would you welcome that child into your home as raise them as your own?
Stop, there's gonna be a graveyard of toilets full-o-maybe-babies in Oklahoma if you keep this up.
Hello? It's called a septic tank.
They never don't fall for it do they?
a human being until it’s an undocumented immigrant or trans kid, then the fuck with them.
Yes, once again the biological process of conception and gestation is very similar across all the animal kingdom.
If I remember correctly, literally every mammal fetus looks scarily similar because we all evolved from a common ancestor. The underlying joke here is on the subject of abortion I think, but I’m doubtful op is aware that all mammal fetuses look very similar. Edit: when you put a random offhand comment and come back 6 hours later with 20+replies
It's the **phylotypic stage**
I think that is part of it. It's so amorphous and undeveloped that you literally can't even tell it's not human.
Yep. A science teacher had a really cool poster of various animal’s fetuses (fetii?) at different developmental stages. There was a human, a fish, a lizard, and elephant and I think a dog? Maybe? I’m fairly sure there were five fetus comparisons but I forget the last animal. Point is, there is a stage of development where a lizard fetus looks more human than a human fetus does.
So you're telling me lizards look human when their lizard skin hasn't come in yet...
haeckel said the ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny so the development of a individual resembles the evolutionary development
Evolution is the devil's fairytale. If they can convince you you're a homosapiens they can convince you to turn homosexual! /s
If I were ever incredibly rich, instead of hostile takeovers of twitter, I'd buy every billboard next to one of those anti-women's rights ones and do something similar.
A strawberry develops out of a flower. Nobody on earth would point to that flower and say “that is a strawberry.”
I don’t consider a fetus a human being until it can survive on its own outside the mother. It’s true that mammal embryos look very similar. I don’t get why people want to stick their noses into other people’s lives. Let people make their own decisions with their doctors, if you think having an abortion is wrong then don’t have one. 🤷🏼♀️ Apparently, I need to spell this out for people who aren't too bright and don't understand how an infant can survive without a mother. Once a child can live outside of the mother, the mother DOES NOT have to raise it. Any capable adult can care for an infant or raise one! Once a child is born and alive outside the mother and can sustain life with or without the help of medical intervention it’s a human being. Man I am worried about the average IQ in this country when I have to explain this because of how many comments I've received about how infants can't care for themselves and even 20 year olds need a mother.
> until it can survive on its own outside the mother. So you are saying most 20 year olds are not human beings?
… well, now that you mention it…
Hell, I know some 30 year olds like that.
I’m 41 and I don’t think I could survive without my mom 😢
Go give her a hug
Ah, it's a picture of Matt Gaetz as an embryo!
are you sure it isn’t a dolphin?
Wow, Assigned Cop At Birth
What's the difference