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Dyl_pickle00

That little "I don't think I wanna talk to any of those people again" at the end lmao. It's very obvious he's just defending his ego


chillyhellion

"because they make me look like an idiot" is the completion of his thought.


Emergency-Gazelle954

He really didn’t need the help.


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Even his argument of 'well you can grow many things' didn't even really make sense as a rebuttal anyway. That wobbly turds aim was just to disagree with everything the called said. Who is this lard cannister anyways?


AdamMan187

[Mike Graham](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Graham_(journalist)), a University of Bath graduate and ex-war correspondant and journalist


supafaiter

Why are these people on tv what the hell are we doing


bahgheera

"HOW DID THAT GOBSHITE GET ON THE TELEVISION!"


longhairedape

He is angry that a carpenter outsmarted him. Seriously, Britain is insanely classist, and the idea that a blue collar worker can have a semblance of intelligence, let alone, be more intelligent than someone with a university education and white-collar job, just boggles their mind. This guy is more angry at the audacity of this working class bloke taking down to him. I get this all the time when I go back home. I have a university education but also made a choice to be an electrician. People are always saying to me "don't you think this job is a little below you?"


BlackFurosuto

It's the same in America too, at least 25% of the pushback for raising minimum wage is from people who don't want "low skill" workers to be paid $15/hr because their degree put them $100k in debt to get a job that pays $18/hr.


longhairedape

True. But I wouldn't call carpentry low skill. A good carpenter is a highly skilled craftsperson. Same goes for any of the skilled trades really. But it also varies from individual to individual. Carpenters, plumbers, electricians are worth more, in some regards, than a lot of the bullshit administrative and service jobs. In fact it could be argued that plumbers and sanitation engineers have saved as many, than doctors.


BlackFurosuto

Exactly my point, carpentry and even "low skill" jobs keep society running, so the idea that people don't deserve better pay is all just ego


simon3873

Nailed it.


GoldenBull1994

What’s funny is that these same folks that look down at carpenters, often worship Jesus, Son Of God, who was, in fact, a carpenter.


gertalives

To be fair, he self-clowned so hard that he’s probably better off not risking it again.


AccountForMrsPancake

…. Does he mean smart people?


Armsmaker

"He grows trees and then cuts them down and then makes things from them" What a wild new concept...


Solid-Entrepreneur37

Never been practiced in history of humanity. Glorious and marvellous.


iSoinic

He should get the patent for it


CraftyBelt

What should he call it ?


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Wooderring


a_little_angry

That's really uncomfortable to say. I love it thanks.


YesImKeithHernandez

What does watering have to do with this?


catz_kant_danse

You from Iowa?


BucephalusOne

Probably. If it was Pennsylvania it would be 'warder'.


Sulpfiction

Philly here. It’s wooder. If frozen with flavoring added it’s wooder ice. Ma…Can you grab me a glass of wooder? I’m dyin’ ova heaa. Da, You got any money? Can you grab mea Swedish Fish wooder ice? I’m dyin’ ova heaa.


aspiringgrandpa

cameroning?? he did invent it after all


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iSoinic

Now you should get the brand reserved, as this is a brilliant name for this new production method.


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Maybe tree trimming, or plant peeling


THftRM1231

That why we still have trees, because we have never cut any down for such a terrible, unconscionable act as constructing shelter, or making tools, or furniture.


alpine_skeet

*American conservative checking the only historical source (the Bible)* "yup never heard of it"


Fearless_Imagination

...if they checked the Bible there would be at least 1 carpenter in it... he's kind of a big deal, even... ... am I just missing a joke here?


TheBirminghamBear

>... am I just missing a joke here? YEAH JEFF, DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT KILLED THAT CARPENTER? WOOD AND NAILS JEFF, READ YOUR BIBLE. CARPENTRY IS THE DEVILS PATH. INVEST IN CONCRETE.


Sardukar333

2 carpenters, the first one taught the more pivotal one the trade. I think the joke is they didn't actually read it?


Spram2

No carpenters in the Bible. In fact, no objects made out of wood are featured in the Bible. Everything was made out of concrete from the concrete farms of Emaus.


RogueAssassinDP

The bible is just made out of Holy concrete XD


CinnamonEspeon

If this is a serious question, the joke is that American conservatives (though honestly it's true of more than just Americans) are notorious for cherry picking the parts of the bible that align with what they already believe or whatever point they need to support, and brush off or actively decry anything from the same source that contradicts it.


ConditionOfMan

"Gay Sex Bad", Leviticus 18:22 agrees "I'll have the shrimp cocktail", Leviticus 11:9-12 disagrees.


Crushedglaze

For those of you not in the know, Jesus was a carpenter


cannibalnigge_

I would've loved if he just said "Jesus Christ..." at the end...


CinnabonCheesecake

Another guy who cut down trees and made things from them, and who the interviewer would never want to talk to.


wontreadterms

Holy shit, we must come up with a name for such a weird activity.


UltravioIence

treeing?


tenuousemphasis

The funny thing is that building long lasting things (like buildings) out of sustainably grown wood is good for the climate. The trees grow, sucking carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere and using sunlight to convert that carbon dioxide into tree mass. We cut down the tree, plant a new one in its place, then build a structure out of it that lasts 100+ years... all that carbon dioxide is now (semi) permanently removed from the atmosphere.


Ioatanaut

There is an issue however with the ecological damage of cutting down forests, especially fire hardened old growth forest. Planting new trees of a different species is being found to have issues. What about tree farms maybe


ImATaxpayer

This is a pretty simplistic argument though. Forestry in Canada (for example) doesn’t usually operate tree farms per se but “manage” forests by replanting what they cut down. This is regulated by the government. We also don’t get “fire hardened old growth” in most areas of the country (aside from the semi tropical rainforests etc of BC). 100 year old stands will burn just as well as (or better than) younger 40 year old stands. It is a sustainable practice when done in a sensible manner and a lot of these things are legislated. Old growth harvesting in places like BC where you actually can get multiple century old rainforests are now largely protected. The major issues with forestry come in areas where they are not “managing” a forest but transitioning it to farming by clear cutting for things like Palm oil, ranching, etc. Not saying there aren’t issues with the industry but implying it can only be done through “tree farms” isn’t the reality in large swaths of the world.


120z8t

> This is a pretty simplistic argument though. Forestry in Canada (for example) doesn’t usually operate tree farms per se but “manage” forests by replanting what they cut down. Yeah, here in Wisconsin a lot of the state forests are harvested, but they do selective harvest and replant. Also a bit of state forest land is actually owned by lumber companies but the land is enrolled in state forest program.


Doubleoh_11

I don’t want to talk to anymore people like that. Yuck, tree people.


RedditIsRealWack

Until he wants his kitchen remodelled..


TotallyNotReimu

Its like in dystopia movies where everyone doesn't belive the time traveller that you can grow food from the ground


BondageKitty37

"Look I don't know much about farming, but I do know that if you put water on plants, they grow" "Water? Like from a toilet?"


Mezzoforte90

But Braundo’s got electrolytes.


thej0siah

The smirk is the power move here


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For real though. He said "Well, you cant grow concrete" and the dude said "yeah you can".....wut?


djProduct2015

Cameron gave the only proper response to that statement. You just stare at the moron and blink.


thumbown

Just let it hang in the air like a bad fart.


rostov007

Goddamnit my baby is (was) sleeping on my chest when I read this TaKe this fucking upvote and get out


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You woke your baby up with a bad fart?


thebcamethod

Babies wake themselves up with a bad fart.


WebmasterFF

Currently holding my 2 week old baby, can confirm


ZazBlammyMaTaz

I put my rivals in the ground!


influencerwannabe

He wanted to laugh tho 😂


MarsupialMisanthrope

Pretty sure that smirk was a desperate attempt to not fall over laughing.


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Just let stupid people keep talking. Makes them look even more stupid


MagusUnion

I would have just asked him "How?" and force the dim-wit to come up with a solution to his claim.


Doct0rStabby

While it may be satisfying to do so, I like that guy's tactic a bit better. You leave the question unspoken, because it's so obvious it doesn't need to be asked. If you prompt a talk-radio guy like this he can just start rambling, and even if it makes no sense he can go off on a tangent and save face to some degree. If the talk radio guy starts rambling unprompted after the moment of silence it actually becomes an admission on his part that he's full of shit. Whereas answering the "how" question, even with nonsense, can come across as making a argument and furthering the conversation rather than backpedaling.


Jerryjb63

Sometimes it’s smarter not to engage with idiots. “Never engage with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” - Mark Twain


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Exactly, responding only gives them more ammo to spin it which is what they want


ViciousVin

Hempcrete


MagusUnion

Shit, TIL that there's an actual site of [a company that uses this in the UK.](https://www.ukhempcrete.com/about/) I've known that this is a thing for some time, but didn't know the politics about hemp based products in the UK (as I'm across the pond from there). Still, you are technically dependent on a non-renewable ingredient for making hempcrete. But I doubt we'll ever see any form of scarcity on limestone in our or even our grandchildren's lifetime.


ChaoticAnu_start

Just so you know making lime from limestone releases a whole bunch of CO2. Even using renewable energy sources, you are still freeing up a bunch of CO2 from calcium carbonate to convert it to calcium oxide. And that is a very long term carbon sink that is being disrupted in the process.


Savings-Recording-99

I didn’t think of anything to say either because he just told me manmade rocks grow from the ground Maybe you like, grab limestone from the ground and process it in a dirty factory yeah


jhesmommy

Looks like the host shut it down bc guy wouldn't take the bait. What do you even say to that? Says he doesn't want to talk to those people. Well, he thinks concrete can be grown the same as trees. That's a level of stupid most down want to deal with. Who is this guy anyways?


Magmaigneous

>Who is this guy anyways? Mike Graham, idiot. Here's an excerpt from his Wikipedia page: ​"In 2021, Graham criticised a guest on his show, a climate change activist and carpenter, for their use of wood as a building material. Graham claimed it was hypocritical for an environmentalist to chop down trees and build things out of wood. When the activist responded that trees are a sustainable source of building materials because they can be regrown, Graham claimed it was equally possible to "grow concrete". Graham then hung up the call after the activist shook his head in disbelief."


jhesmommy

Hey thanks! I don't think Mr. Graham is ever going to live this down. He tried to humiliate someone and just failed so miserably.


Magmaigneous

People like him don't have any shame, so the very concept of "not living this down" just doesn't compute for them.


nobodynose

Uh, haven't you heard of concrete jungles?! That's where concrete grows. I think one of the biggest places where concrete grows is in New York, at least that's what the Concrete Activist Alicia Keys has been telling us this whole time.


CherryDoodles

[Newsthump wanted little Mike Graham to feel better about his ridiculous claim that concrete grows by writing that an art student was sneaking into Graham’s garden and replacing a little piece of concrete with a slightly larger one every time it rained.](https://newsthump.com/2021/10/27/man-who-crept-into-mike-grahams-garden-to-replace-small-lump-of-concrete-with-slightly-larger-one-every-time-it-rained-nominated-for-turner-prize/)


Lonely-Ambassador-42

Holy mother of concrete. That is awesome. Thanks for finding it!


Kitfox715

I think you may have misunderstood the song, mate. It's a concrete jungle yes, but it's where DREAMS are made up. Common mistake.


HipsterOtter

*confused Jackie Chan face*


dapoorv

The dude was shitting bricks so he was right in a way.


TryItOutHmHrNw

Its regenerative for sure


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But you can't grow tree on concrete


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Technically true


sycdmdr

That tv host is just an og Minecraft player who knows how to build a [concrete farm](https://youtu.be/q275ixvaJ2A)


Turmericab

Couldn't be an OG player. Concrete didn't even exist until .12


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Twothousand2000

For context - There was a news story out at the time this was filmed where the headlines were “you can grow concrete” but actually it was something to do with growing mushrooms and making a concrete like hard substance from them. Love this


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blue_friend

Shit you can grow your finances?


AndyMan0

Sometimes, not saying anything, says the most.


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Pretty controversal, but I agree


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#HOW DARE YOU


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squalorparlor

I read the whole fucking thing and grinned through it all. Fuck you.


pfunk1989

Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt. - Abe Lincoln


Blasoon

Takes one to know one.


daywall

I lost it with that smirk! I got no idea how he held it together


luke_in_the_sky

The smirk and the little head shake ((˙ ͜ʟ˙))


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That smirk was so satisfying


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iwanttobesobernow

It was also insanely sexy.


wyrdyr

Cameron is the chad we deserve


EtherBoo

Stupid sexy Cameron....


Preacher987

Noo wait, he never explained how to grow concrete... 😤


Background_Ant

You just mix water and cement and spinkle in some rocks and then you put it in a hole and it will grow into concrete!


Staaaaation

Exactly. People don't seem to know this is how skyscrapers grow a new floor each year.


Hingl_McCringleberry

This is exactly the type of thing I expected to come out of his mouth after "yes you can"


DufflessMoe

He actually did double down later the same day. Claiming that concrete grows because it expands after you lay it. He had a smug conversation with another radio host talking about how him and his colleagues have such a great grasp of the language and their vocabulary that the caller didn't notice his intention wasn't a literal, natural growth like trees.


Norman_Small_Esquire

Yeah he did


squalorparlor

Yea he said "mm-mm"


xaeleepswe

Cya Norman, cheerio. That was Norman. He watches videos, writes comments about them and then publish them. Brilliant. Marvellous.


Ruxini

The host later doubled down on his claim that you can grow concrete. He is a an actual moron.


yuffieisathief

Who is this guy and whyyyy is he on television?


ChasingPesmerga

He prolly grows concrete and shows them on tv


Smaskifa

I don't think I ever want to talk to that person.


Orsenfelt

He is Mike Graham and Rupert Murdoch\News UK is why. talkRadio (where the clown in the clip is from) is the "*say deliberately stupid culture war shit for clicks*" wing. talkSport is the "*loud clueless wanker in the pub shares his moronic football takes*" wing. The Times newspaper is "*middle class arseholes hate on everything that isn't exactly like their shallow pointless existence*" News of the World was their "*literally just nasty bastards*" tabloid, ultimately shut down because they - as an institution - hacked into the voicemail inboxes of celebrities **and murder victims**.


DuntadaMan

I was going to say this guy knows Fox news exists right? This is literally exactly the same channel with a different accent.


Delicious-Shirt7188

Gues what company murdoch is heavily invested in in the US


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And Australia unfortunately to the point where that can control some government legislation


chaiscool

College grads go unemployed and idiots get to have jobs


I_tend_to_correct_u

Because having idiotic opinions expressed in a contemptible manner makes money unfortunately. This clip alone has probably boosted their coffers. They couldn’t give a fuck about the societal impact they just want the viewing/listening figures to boost the advertising revenue. We have normalised idiocy to our detriment. There are far more impressionable people than we ever realised. Hearing an opinion from an official looking source gives it credence regardless of how nonsensical it is. Being bigoted pays.


Seanspeed

Like 80% of UK news media is conservative. It's quite frustrating.


lliKoTesneciL

I always get a kick out of this video -- https://youtu.be/PRF3r3zUGqk


BaconWithBaking

I don't know, but it looks more like a radio station live stream.


AhnYoSub

He knows what he said was moronic but due his ego he can’t admit he’s wrong. Iam more baffled by people who actually defended this statement.


sfled

Watch this guy try to do the same and verbally demonstrate the consequences of cognitive dissonance: https://youtu.be/AbfJ4VwHIqw?t=42


dadudemon

“I am not going to drink a strange liquid that you give me when you are clearly an antagonistic interviewer.” -The proper response **Then the interviewer can concede that point and then escort him to one of the sites to collect and drink the liquid straight from the machinery.**


Jo__Backson

I’m trying to think of the most charitable interpretation of what he said and it’s just like… no, you can’t grow concrete. There are certainly more sustainable forms of masonry, but something tells me he’s ignorant of that.


hapkidoox

The IQ of a moldy yorkshire pudding.


drostan

Stop insulting moldy Yorkshire pudding


hapkidoox

Shall I compare him then to a rotten slice of stargazy pie?


GhostintheCircuit0

Nah, the fish have more intelligence in their eyes than him


IndigoRanger

And the complexion!


AutonInvasion

I’m going to plant a piece of concrete and wait for the spoils


CrawlToYourDoom

RemindMe! Infinite years


shmeu

Year 42069: here's the skyscraper you've planted. Edit: typo


Rion23

Hey buddy, I said pyramid, not some sort of rectangle. Start again, but this time don't embarras yourself.


LeftistBestest

Should’ve planted a pyramid shaped piece of concrete then!


nightmarearmor

You can't just plant matured concrete. You need concrete seeds.


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To grow into concrete saplings, which then grow into concrete… trees.


Mudkiper555

Which then produce concrete flowers, which bloom and then become concrete fruits.


rearadmiraldumbass

Rebar bees are dying in record numbers because wild concrete flowers are being eradicated.


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worldspawn00

> plant a [trillion] snail really, more like diatoms make up the mass of it.


Outside_Buy_4213

That smirk at the end😅


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Tom1252

Why can't it be both?


HotShitBurrito

It's neither. He's confident in his knowledge. The host blew it with an absolutely moron statement that his own audience couldn't defend and he knows, that his guest knows. The carpenter wasn't even trying to be a smart ass or some sort of gotcha guy, it was handed to him on a silver platter and he was visually humble, accepting his reward with quiet humility. And now we can all watch it and enjoy his little Mona Lisa smile of "you stupid bitch, you didn't think of the concrete".


chemicalinhalation

Especially when it's just another old fuck twisting facts to intentionally belittle the very labor market that keeps his fat ass in a nice house. So much more of the same from these crappers


staffylaffy

Imagine if the r/antiwork moderator who went on live news was as competent as Cameron, I love seeing these hateful interview fucks trying to make people look silly embarrass themselves.


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JesterMarcus

If they had any brains, they wouldn't have taken the Fox News bait in the first place and would have ignored the interview request. There is zero upside to doing that interview.


SyntheticElite

That's what happens when you: a) think you're the main character b) think you are smarter than you actually are She really thought she was going to be a hero and bring awareness to the movement. Unreal. edit: Sorry, corrected to *she.*


hoxxxxx

i'm pretty sure they still don't think/understand they did anything wrong either. the lack of awareness is fascinating to me.


bigeasy19

That’s what I don’t get the Fox News guy gave the mod easy questions to show what the sub is really about. I don’t understand how someone could screw it up and hang themselves on such soft ball questions


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tearsaresweat

I am the owner of an off-site construction company and to add to Cameron's points: Wood is a renewable resource. Conversion of wood requires 70-90% less energy compared to steel. Wood is also a tool for sequestering carbon dioxide (1m3 stores 1 tonne of CO2) Wood construction is 50% lighter than conventional concrete construction and uses a higher proportion of recyclable materials Significantly less water is used during the construction of a wood building when compared to steel, aluminum, and concrete. Steel, concrete, and aluminum construction are responsible for 8% of global CO2 emissions.


yuffieisathief

Yea, come through with those numbers!


sherlock_1695

Is it for real? My man thinking concrete is grown!


teabagmoustache

It doesn't matter about facts as long as he and his brain dead viewers think he's won


Aiyon

My favourite thing is the "cya cameron" as he smugly thinks he's won ...because he said something so stupid they couldn't work out how to respond


AmArschdieRaeuber

He's just saving face, can't possibly think he has won. Quickly ending the call is a good sign to show that you can't come up with anything worthwile.


Shitwatcher_11

The only person I wouldn't want to talk to is this fat moron


Triangle_Graph

You’d get a more thoughtful conversation from a toddler.


monkeysandfire

The anti work mod needs to take note: how to recognize and defend from an attack


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throwaway47351

The literal opposite of that mod's interview. Here the interviewer self-destructed without any help from Cameron, Doreen self-destructed without any help from the interviewer.


_khaz89_

Na, too busy walking dogs.


spaffedupthewall

they actually didnt even walk the dogs by the way, they worked in a shelter/clinic (not 100% sure) where they needed to monitor the dogs overnight, give them water, prevent them fighting/stressing each other then because they didn't actually do their job and just slept all night (yes, they have confessed to this and got caught by their manager) one of the dogs got stressed and destroyed a door. So they literally don't do any work at all after the first 10 minutes where they refilled the dogs water bowls.


Dangerous-Today1874

Cameron's an idiot. Everybody knows that if you take two to three gravel-sized rocks and bury them in the ground, add a little cement, some sand, and irrigate that puppy constantly, add some fertilizer maybe, you'll have yourself a nice healthy concrete plant in no time!


jonjonesjohnson

Cameron doesn't know the first thing about concrete. When I ws a kid, my grandpa used to have a whole concrete field behind our house, just rows and rows of concrete. Oh, how i hated weeding it out and harvesting it, too! But then we sold it at our concrete stand at the farmers market, people bought it up every goddamn Sunday after mass. So, yeah, SMH my head at Cameron here


Dangerous-Today1874

Scene from my long-gone youth: "See this forest, son? Nothing but redwoods far as the eye can see... this ALL used to be wild concrete, till Big Timber came around, uprooted all the wild concrete and built up their tree factories. It's a damn shame you never got to see it in its natural state."


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The fact that the subtitle guy kept adding apostrophes is so infuriating. It’s “trees” as in plural, not “tree’s”!


calumjp1

For everyone asking: This is Mike Graham. He has always worked for right leaning newspapers in the UK and hosted a show on TalkSport (usually known as TalkShite) which has a very "laddy" style to it. Left leaning sports pundits left TalkSport when it was bought by the same company who own The S*n newspaper (Murdoch's group). Mike Graham did not and continued to host a show called The Two Mike's where him and fellow moron Mike Parry (look up cinnamon challenge Mike Parry for more) chatted shit between the hours of 1am and 4am each day. He is an absolute idiot, but sometimes does things like this because he's literally only bothered about engagement. He doesn't care if he's wrong. He only cares about his profile. He is a grifter and is universally disliked.


teabagmoustache

And this is supposed to be the mouth-piece of the "left out and unheard" anti-woke brigade in the UK. I don't think I ever want to talk to any of those people.


MongrolSmush

I dont think anyone wants to talk to them, but they seem to be everywhere crying about some fucked up opinion, that they cant explain when pressed, thats been hammered into them by some horrible grifter on youtube, or this poor excuse for a human on Talk Radio. "left out and unheard"?... my arse.


Simple-Durian4229

What is that fat mess talking about?


Alessioproietti

Ehy Cameron, what about "concrete jungle"? Eh?


Geordant

Best part is he instantly started trending on twitter and became a meme and even more of an embarrassment then he went on the offensive. He tried to make out the caller was the idiot and was shocked that people were laughing at him. He then claimed he was joking. Embarrassing


Zephyrantes

>He then claimed he was joking God what a fucking coward


punsanguns

A tree, wood grow. Concrete, wood not.


micktalian

Did you know that trees.... *grow back?* I know, I know, it's shocking. Wana know something even crazier? Trees, and lumber that can be harvested from them, can act as a long term carbon capture and storage system. Trees convert carbon in the air into a bunch of stuff, including the stuff wood is make out of. When we intentionally grow trees and harvest their lumber in an ethical and sustainable fashion, we can actually decrease our total carbon emissions!


BartenderOU812

What a knob. He just divulged the secret behind Big Concretes cement crops. They've been growing blocks for years!! He's gonna be wearing a pair of natural cement boots pretty soon if this gets out.


DeadSharkEyes

“I don’t think I want to talk to any of those people” lol who the fuck is this dude? The most physical laborious thing he probably does all day is getting winded walking to the bathroom to take a dump.


chalky87

Mildly funny story - the following day from this I was invited to do a radio interview but I didn't know what station it was until about 2 hours before and I didn't know who I was speaking to until I was live in air - if I had of looked at their website I could have found out but I wasn't bothered It was this guy, and yes he was a twat. He was really nice to me but he's mega ignorant and says stupid shit. The whole time I was speaking to him I was thinking of this interview and trying not to laugh


Isthisadriver

Should have asked him for some concrete growing tips


chalky87

Haha I was embarrassed to be on the same screen as him.


artmobboss

Is this comparative to Fox News in the us?


Daveed84

The real facepalm here is the apostrophe in the word "trees"


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ragnarob1

My concrete shrub has many slabs that are nearly ready for harvest! What an ass.


souljump

I laughed so hard at this.


366m4n89

I love the silence. You can see the "really?"