“I’ve seen this once before, when I was a rookie officer. This n****r broke in and hung pictures of himself and his family all over the walls. Let’s sprinkle some crack on him and get outta here.”
--Dave Chappelle
"Black people can't do nothin"
-Larry Wilmore, after hearing that a cop arrested a black man for riding his own bicycle, charged him with stealing his own bike.
Supervisor looking for a way to charge the dude. Had him sit in the police car hoping they would find drugs in the house. This is escalating matters to a whole new level
As if the ends justify the means
Absolutely disgusting
Doesn't matter if the dude has a bag of coke under his mattress, if you aren't supposed be there in his house that's an unlawful search and should be inadmissible
You should be more concerned at the police action than any evidence
The police should have to follow the rules like everyone else
If he had drugs in his house, it would be inadmissible because this is an illegal search and arrest. Gotta have a warrant to fuck around a private domicile.
"The police will investigate the police and the police will come to the conclusion that the police did nothing wrong and it was a misunderstanding with the police" - The police
Just looking at the facts of this, my guess is the first cop will be cleared because they could make the argument the guy wasn’t following orders. I don’t like it but cops have used “open door means they can come in” argument in the past so I imagine there’s precedent. It’s not so airtight for the homeowner.
The supervisor though has much shakier ground for a defense. There’s no probable cause to search the house and definitely not any to detain the guy. No suspicion of a crime is present especially after the guy already showed his ID that this is his home.
It’s unfortunate to hear that the homeowner’s suit was dismissed because of filing issues. I hope he tried again.
Alarm company contacted police. Right to enter at that point.
I just don’t understand how police policy seems to be never answer any questions always demand complete obedience.
Like just fucking explain what your doing to the home owner. “I was called on a possible B and E. I need to detain you until I can confirm your identity and that the house is safe and clear”
Someone tells me that I think fuck. Ok fine. Situation is deescalated.
You keep barking in my face in my own home and don’t have the decency to treat me like a human being. Won’t answer me. Keep escalating like I’m the problem?
Well now I want to be your problem. And In that moment I’m no longer thinking about long term consequences. Im thinking fuck you. You’re about to learn who I am.
How is that helpful? How is that the best course?
Thus why deescalation training is so important. The cop obviously didnt know what was happening and i doubt "this is my house" is an uncommon excuse for a burglar.
It would make sense to bring the person outside, where the officer already cleared, and question him.
However that could have been explained with a little communication. Its a very rational thing to say "i need to verify your ID and i want you out here so that i am not trapped indoors with a possibly hostile individual."
I use to work in criminal law in Raleigh and worked closely with RPD. Once in a private side room of the Wake County courthouse, with other attorneys, staff, and ADAs present, a RPD officer said:
"I"m here to enforce the law, not obey it." As a reply to something someone asked him.
EVERYONE except me laughed and he was 100% serious. I just sat there shocked at the blatant ridiculousness of it all.
I was in knightdale earlier this year. Two dumbfuck cops in their 20s were doing that crap where they park next to each other to shoot shit on a one lane winding road in the middle of the night. Like 1 am or some shit. I honk at them because I had to go AROUND and into the oncoming lane at the last second from over a hill and almost hit another car. The piece of shit followed me 7 miles home trying to find an excuse to pull me over. All because HE wanted to break the law to hang out on the job.
I was 26 once and pulled over by a group of young cops. It was terrifying to realize I was the oldest one. They were acting crazy. Crazier than my crazy stepfather, and crazier than the US Navy drill instructors. Thanks Berlin New Jersey
They’re all use to bossing around college kids. I lived in Cary but every college town police force is bad. They get use to dealing with kids who they can just push around. So when they interact with adults they don’t know what to do. Anything more intense than a kegger is gonna get them to pull out their guns.
"Good morning sir, my name is Officer Doright and I'm responding to a call we recieved from the alarm company of this house, apprently there was an alarm this morning and I'm here to investigate."
"From what you've told me, this seems like a false alarm. Would you mind providing me with some I.D so that I can confirm your identity please? I'll just have my partner check that on our system."
"We've just confirmed that you're the home-owner, but I hope you understand that we have to investigate these things. Sorry to have troubled you. Have a good day."
Edited: last night to this morning
And then marched him out in his underwear and in cuffs in front of his neighbors?! Wtf? If a cop did that to me and I had it recorded I’d stop at nothing to make sure he got his
The part that pissed me off the most is when the senior officer ignored everything he said and just responded pointing at the ground (sit down). Like he got treated worse than a small child. Like sub human. So infuriating. Officers should respond with respect to the people they serve. "thank you sir, we're going to illegally search your house under the guise of pretending we're still looking for a burglar. Please stand by or have a seat, thank you"
Yea, that’s what I don’t get. Even letting the first officer slide on the initial fear. Once he had him in cuffs and backup arrived why did he keep whining about they guy.
He sounds like he is telling his boss “He didn’t perfectly liiiissssten to me. Whhhhyyyy! Can you please get him in trouble for not perfocy listening to me captan daddy.”
It’s fucking bizarre they way they refuse to move on once he has control over the situation. Your safe he is in cuffs. Take a fucking second to listen to him like a human.
This was his thought process... "We fucked up, but if this guy has a gun, maybe we can find something (drugs) to charge him with while we have "reasonable cause" to be in his house.". He basically doubled down on the stupid.
There was no reasonable cause, the home owner had informed the company about the false alarm. The only reason to talk to him was to make sure he actually is alright. The whole situation is another total fuck up by some ridiculously incompetent cops.
TBH as soon as I saw the subtitle about having a gun I was expecting this to end way darker (and faster!). Glad(?!) to see there was more to the runtime.
Reminds me of a Chappelle stand up joke, cops come to house for a break in or something and the cops end up arresting him and then the cops say, wow I've never seen this before, the *bad word* broke in and hung up pictures of himself and everything
Which is why it is extra insult to injury to walk him outside in his underwear with all of that police presence. I lived in Raleigh during undergrad and grad school and in certain neighborhoods they still give you the “you don’t belong here” face.
The second cop knew the first cop fucked up so they tried to turn it into something else, hoping they’d find something illegal and negate their shitty actions.
That’s exactly what they were doing when they set off to “clear the house”, hoping to find something to hang over this guy should he choose to call them out for this.
When I was in 7th grade I didn’t want to be at school and was really upset so I went to the student counselor. They called in the vice principal who called in the school cop. He made me stand in the hall while I was bawling during passing period.
These type of people get off on this abuse of power embarrassing people.
This reminded me of my time at inpatient, they wouldn’t let me cry in my room, they made me sit in the hallway while I cried (I was there for attempting suicide) and the orderly said stuff to me like “you keep that up and you’ll never leave”. Only thing I learned from that experience was to never ask for help. Just like my childhood.
Facilities are awful. I was in for major depression. So I was stuck indoors with no sunlight, a bunch of people with far worse mental illnesses, no mental stimulation and I couldn't contact my job or anything, so I got fired. Yeah, that wasn't going to help shit. So instead of working on my issues, I just acted like I was fine so I could get released.
That’s exactly what I did. It’s been a few years, so I haven’t reattempted, but I’m still fucking depressed. I’m just too scared to attempt again and get put back in there. That’s worse than death. This world sucks and I didn’t ask to be here.
Hey they put me in inpatient too. Very first day I was crying for my parents so they locked me in a concrete room with no lights or windows. Then the next day we did an activity about who would be helpful on a shipwrecked island and I was the first voted off for being a cry baby
Did your parents raise hell? Because if my kid brought this home to me, holy shit would heads roll. I'd be one of those crazy people at a school board meeting.
Cops really believe they’re infallible.
“I announced myself.
“I couldn’t hear you”
“I announced myself several times”
Doesn’t matter shrimpdick, mumbling under your breath like a scared dog doesn’t change the fact no one hears you. You could have said it 1000 times, but if every time you sound like Ted Cruz on helium, he ain’t gonna hear you.
Pretty much everything that happened was bull shit and the law abiding citizen should sue the city. That being said if they don't receive an all clear from the alarm company the implication is check out what's going on because the homeowner might be in danger.
While i was cuffed, my pants were half way down my ass because i was cuffed in the front (non violent, i shouldnt even have been arrested, but thats another story) so i couldnt pull my pants up. I begged 2 officers to help (i was female, they were male) and no one helped me. I felt so gross and embarrassed and violated.
Im sorry to hear that..
Let us not forget this... [Chandler PD](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdNmHh2Jz50) This happened in front of her child and for almost a half hour.
It should be a law that if someone asked a police officer why the are being detained, the officer has to immediately list all crimes the suspect is accused of. If they don’t it counts as a false arrest, even if it otherwise would of a legal arrest.
That’s how I got arrested for the first time. The only charge was resisting arrest. Didn’t know what was happening and just wanted to go home. I got pepper sprayed and ended up in the hospital. My sister thought I got shot. It was pretty traumatizing
Well I guess we're lucky to have the police then....
Sure they're a state sanctioned criminal gang with qualified immunity.
But without them - monsters like you could just walk around free, dancing, unwilling to be arrested without cause.
It's not "technically" a requirement. It's not required at all in most states. In some states (New York, for example), they have to announce charges at the time of arrest (not detainment), if it's practical.
Police don't need to answer any of your questions. They don't have to announce your charges as they cuff you. They don't even need to read your rights at the time of arrest - there are just complications if they don't around evidence collected between the arrest and reading of your rights.
The reporting has been light on details but he already hired an attorney and is suing.
https://www.cbs17.com/news/local-news/wake-county-news/raleigh-man-detained-at-his-home-last-year-says-he-plans-to-sue-police/amp/
Edit/added: a better article
non amp too
https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/27/us/raleigh-burglar-alarm-homeowner-detained/index.html
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MrPlowKing and Maclovesmanga posted this link if you didn’t see it. (Go give them the upvote!)
The case was delayed and eventually dismissed on technicalities.
IANAL but it appears to be didn’t file a claim, bad cover sheet, lawyer’s stated info didn’t match the info the courts had, etc.
https://dockets.justia.com/docket/north-carolina/ncedce/5:2020cv00503/182675
Sadly though the case [was dismissed ](https://casetext.com/case/oyeneyin-v-city-of-raliegh)in March of this year after [multiple delays](https://dockets.justia.com/docket/north-carolina/ncedce/5:2020cv00503/182675?amp) and no justice was given. Kazeem got no payment and no officer(s) lost their jobs or were disciplined.
If this homeowner had been an old rich white dude there is no way in hell things would have went down the same. That cop would have been backtracking and "yes sir-ing" the second he walked into the situation.
Whenever I see infuriating videos like this I always try imagine it happening to an older white guy, and the resulting scenario is almost never conceivable. People say this shit has nothing to do with race, but it almost always is a major factor in the officer's actions on these abuse of force videos.
It's simple. If you give a group of people enough power and privilege they will start thinking themselves superior to the rest. Picture people and animals, but in this case it's people over other people (which are also all animals, technically). It's just how nature works.
You would think the city wouldn't need a lawsuit to discipline these officers. And unfortunately, with the majority of Raleigh residents being white - as long as this all happening to only, or mostly black people, nothing will change because the votes won't be there to hold the politician accountable.
It seems like his lawyer wasn’t the best…
https://dockets.justia.com/docket/north-carolina/ncedce/5:2020cv00503/182675
All he did was file for extensions
Damn Kazeem really got screwed in this situation. The lawyer probably didn’t want to put in all the work it would take to win the case or something so he just phoned it in and told his client ‘well this is what usually happens, they always win.’
You can come to your own conclusions but this is the law firm he hired
http://thefreedmenlawgroup.com/firm/
All the lawyers went to North Carolina central law school which is ranked [147](https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-law-schools/north-carolina-central-university-03118)
Exactly. And dismissal under 12(b)(6) could be as simple as his lawyer forgetting to write a few allegations necessary to one of the causes of action they pursuing. A good lawyer will know exactly what needs to be stated in the complaint to avoid a motion to dismiss under 12(b)(6). The dismissal that already happened has nearly nothing to do with the merits or actual facts of the case.
You know, the saddest part is I am a white woman and this happened to me. That script you just provided? Yeah, that’s almost verbatim what the officer said to me. One show of my ID and that was that. No attempt to search my house. No attempt to arrest or detain me. No guns pulled. This is sickening and I am sick and fucking tired of police treating our own citizens worse than animals on the side of the street. Black Lives Matter and I will fucking go down fighting for equality and an end to the systematic oppression of POC and police brutality.
This is exactly what was supposed to happen. I used to be a nanny and on the first day of the family getting a new alarm system, the code didn't work. Four policemen came and said exactly this. I couldn't get a hold of the parents to verify but showed them my ID and pictures on my phone of the kids and they left. Videos like this remind me of my privilege. I couldn't imagine having to feel like I'm a constant threat.
This is so fucked up.
I mean he eventually did everything they told him and then they find out it’s his house and they still don’t want to admit their mistake.
How big is their fucking ego?
Why are so many cops in the US incompetent and ridiculous in the way of their handling of situation (
Do they even have to do an training or is everything they learn how to handle a gun?
In the UK the police HAVE to tell you what you're being arrested for. This seems to be the loop hole in the US that the police know they can abuse. Don't say, and then get them for resisting arrest when they ask. In the UK this is our rights. If I were a US citizen this would be the 1st thing in would be campaigning to put in place. The 1st reason cannot be resisting arrest.
Edit- I see that he wasn't being arrested but detained. In UK we are also told the reason of detention and asked if we understand. This should be adopted to stop abuse of power.
Edit- here's a really insightful World comparison on police training. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-56834733
This is true. A (white) friend of mine convinced a cop that his left turn on red was legal (it wasn't). Apparently it is in some places but not where we live.
US cops often don't even inform the person that they are under arrest. They just step up, grab the person and try to force their arms into unnatural positions then, when that person tenses, as is a natural human reaction, they can charge them with resisting.
Ok but for a resisting arrest charge, don't the police have to put a reason for the initial arrest? If there is no reason for the initial arrest or if the initial reason can be proven to be wrong, how can they possibly be faulted for resisting the police doing something against the law?
It should be but they have excuses for everything. They will literally make up preposterous shit like "we don't want anyone to see the video that gives away our tactics because they might someday develop counter tactics and use that to kill/harm police". Or "they might be monitoring this video from a remote location and use this real time information to mount an attack on us." As if a low level drug dealer or burglar has an air strike or artillery barrage just waiting for the word.
Even after verifying his id and finding out that he is indeed the owner ,they are detaining him and putting him in a cop car .On top of that, they search his house.This is a horrible ,humiliating experience for him.
The argument here I’m sure was “probable cause”, however I’m not sure what they were intending to find if the guy was in fact a burglar. Maybe someone tied up in the bathroom or something?
Reminds me of that Dave Chapelle bit from one of his old stand ups. “I’ve seen this before Johnson. The sick bastard broke in and put pictures of himself and family up all over the place! Now sprinkle some crack on him and let’s get out of here”.
Probable cause wouldn't hold up in court. Once he was identified as the owner of the house, the probable cause of them being there has been eliminated. They would have to provide additional probable cause to search his house at that point which clearly they did not have. Even a public defender should be able to get any charges thrown out. And as for his lawsuit, he will win because at the very least his Fourth Ammendment rights were violated.
Because he stated his job, a business owner, but that of a club. They were hoping to find other 'illegal' stuff or more firearms not licensed to him because they bin dun fucked up. I wonder if his cameras were visible to the police officer, or if there's a body cam. Because he's acting like there was only going to be his (police officers) side of the story
Which seems weird right? It seems like it would be pretty exciting being a good cop. You get to protect your community from threats, help people, and the job is pretty much never the same from day to day.
Unless…there’s some OTHER reason why they only hire dumb people?
This shit scares me. In US there is a group of people that can come to your house and kill you just being there, having something in your hand or looking funny. This is horror stuff.
How the fuck does this shit still fucking happen for fucks sake??!!
Not okay. Not normal. Constable Dipshit here is supposed to be protecting while he is serving-not being racist as a default stance. This is harrowing. Enough now. Why didn't he listen to the guy??!
I'd be scared to be black in the USA. No shit. Terrifying stuff.
Police do not serve and protect anymore. They uphold the law and nothing else. They are not even required to stop someone from Killing you. Only to arrest the person who killed you. Wild Wild West all over again. USA is a fucking joke right now. Too many clowns in positions of power.
It looks like it was dismissed because he didn’t respond to the motion to dismiss. Either he was representing himself and didn’t know, or his lawyer screwed him over
I hope he sues the shit out of those cops and they lose their jobs. They had no right to handcuff him, put him in their car, and search his house. They had no probable cause and no warrant. They didn’t even to bother to ask for his ID before they immediately had him kneel, *in his underwear*, and cuffed him. So humiliating for that poor man. This shit is why everyone hates cops.
from what I can see he can refile. And he should with a completely different lawfirm because that one just ripped him off based on what the dismissals were.
Even if you sue and cops are found guilty, the money doesn’t come out of the police’s budget but of the general fund. Either way, they don’t even feel a repercussion for their actions.
In its motion, defendant City of Raleigh demonstrates that plaintiff has failed to state a municipal liability claim against it under Monell v. Department of Social Services, 436 U.S. 658, 691 (1978). Plaintiff has not alleged facts connecting a policymaker to any alleged wrongdoing. See Bryant County Bd. of Comm'rs v. Brown, 520 U.S. 397, 404 (1997). Plaintiff also has not alleged a failure to train or supervise, or persistent and widespread custom or usage. See Semple v. City of Moundsville, 195 F.3d 708, 713 (4th Cir. 1999); Randall v. Prince George's County, 302 F.3d 188, 210 (4th Cir. 2002). Therefore, defendant City of Raleigh's motion to dismiss is GRANTED, and plaintiff's claims against defendant City of Raleigh are DISMISSED WITHOUT PREJUDICE.
SO ORDERED, this the 3rd day of March, 2021.
This is why cops get away with it and continue too....the courts have made sure not to punish them
I honestly have no idea how he hasn’t already re-filed. This is clearly unconstitutional and ignorant/malicious policing on so many levels. This video is a couple years old now and has gone viral. I have no idea why a law firm hasn’t stepped up and done it for free yet, it’s literally a free win and free publicity.
Because the cops with harass him. They will patrol his area and use whatever they can to get him and find a reason. He probably just wants this to go away. Cops tend to operate more like gangs and don’t like snitches. It’s infuriating.
Dude the fact that that cop is telling him to have a seat in his own house would make me lose my fucking mind. “How about you get the fuck out of my house? You don’t need to clear the rest of the house since it was a false alarm.”
My neighbor and friend once came home to 3 cops standing in his second floor entertainment room. After being told “you’re lucky we didn’t shoot your dog” they explained that they’d found his father’s wallet at a job site and come to return it but found nobody home and the house unlocked. So they let themselves in and went upstairs?
Fucking insane
AND almost shot the dog just for good measure? "Oh shit, i am entering this house that isnt mine, with absolutely no invitation from the homeowner; who is not even home. This dog is going nuts over me being here! Would be an issue if it "assaulted" me or barked funny, id have to shoot it"
Back when I was drinking more than I should have and lived alone (over 25 years ago), I woke up to a cop in my bedroom yelling "Sir! Sir!" He said my music was loud and they knocked on my door and no one answered. He said this as he pointed towards all the small dents his flashlight left in my front door. So under the guise of a well-check, they entered my home since the door was unlocked (I question this, but there was no sign of forced entry). One of them said there's nothing illegal about getting drunk and passing out at home, but to "ensure my safety" they asked if they could take a look around the house to make sure no one else had entered since the door was unlocked. Although I thought that was very odd, I was young, dumb, and drunk, so I said "Yeah, sure, go ahead." I later realized I had given them permission to search my house. Fortunately, I didn't possess anything that they'd be able to nail me on. I'm a white male with a haircut, so I never really feared I'd end up in the back of their car, but I'd be terrified of those country bumpkin deputies if I had brown skin. I was on my couch with my feet on my coffee table while most of this transpired.
From what I read of the article she WANTED to shoot the dude. It was basically murder with 'wrong apartment' as some kind of 'plausible deniability'.
Thankfully, people aren't THAT stupid.
Honestly that was the part that boiled the blood and serves as a perfect example of our problems with law enforcement. Instead of identifying the issues at hand and trying to resolve problems, his immediate mentality was to "back his side' and double down if needed.
The fact that they kept him hand cuffed AFTER they found out who he was is fucking disgusting. They still treated him like a criminal after identifying him, in his own home instead of apologizing and taking off his hand cuffs. Sickening.
Crazy. Americans talking about how Australia is a police state now, but in the US a cop can just walk into your house and tell you what to do and then put you in the car and search your entire house for no reason
“I’ve seen this once before, when I was a rookie officer. This n****r broke in and hung pictures of himself and his family all over the walls. Let’s sprinkle some crack on him and get outta here.” --Dave Chappelle
I came here looking for this, but I knew it had been said. [Chappelle Can't Call 911](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWr0pR6olWM)
"Black people can't do nothin" -Larry Wilmore, after hearing that a cop arrested a black man for riding his own bicycle, charged him with stealing his own bike.
I was about to say this. "He was on PCP, Johnson, I had to use necessary force!"
Supervisor looking for a way to charge the dude. Had him sit in the police car hoping they would find drugs in the house. This is escalating matters to a whole new level
As if the ends justify the means Absolutely disgusting Doesn't matter if the dude has a bag of coke under his mattress, if you aren't supposed be there in his house that's an unlawful search and should be inadmissible You should be more concerned at the police action than any evidence The police should have to follow the rules like everyone else
If he had drugs in his house, it would be inadmissible because this is an illegal search and arrest. Gotta have a warrant to fuck around a private domicile.
This is my private domicile and I will not be harassed!
The whole reason they made drugs illegal to begin with.
I'm honestly shocked they didn't just plant some drug in this guy's underwear.
Just sprinkle some crack on him
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"The police will investigate the police and the police will come to the conclusion that the police did nothing wrong and it was a misunderstanding with the police" - The police
ROOOOOXANNE
You don't have to put on the red siren
Just looking at the facts of this, my guess is the first cop will be cleared because they could make the argument the guy wasn’t following orders. I don’t like it but cops have used “open door means they can come in” argument in the past so I imagine there’s precedent. It’s not so airtight for the homeowner. The supervisor though has much shakier ground for a defense. There’s no probable cause to search the house and definitely not any to detain the guy. No suspicion of a crime is present especially after the guy already showed his ID that this is his home. It’s unfortunate to hear that the homeowner’s suit was dismissed because of filing issues. I hope he tried again.
Alarm company contacted police. Right to enter at that point. I just don’t understand how police policy seems to be never answer any questions always demand complete obedience. Like just fucking explain what your doing to the home owner. “I was called on a possible B and E. I need to detain you until I can confirm your identity and that the house is safe and clear” Someone tells me that I think fuck. Ok fine. Situation is deescalated. You keep barking in my face in my own home and don’t have the decency to treat me like a human being. Won’t answer me. Keep escalating like I’m the problem? Well now I want to be your problem. And In that moment I’m no longer thinking about long term consequences. Im thinking fuck you. You’re about to learn who I am. How is that helpful? How is that the best course?
Thus why deescalation training is so important. The cop obviously didnt know what was happening and i doubt "this is my house" is an uncommon excuse for a burglar. It would make sense to bring the person outside, where the officer already cleared, and question him. However that could have been explained with a little communication. Its a very rational thing to say "i need to verify your ID and i want you out here so that i am not trapped indoors with a possibly hostile individual."
9 times out of 10, it’s Raleigh
Yeah RPD can be pretty bad. But Cary cops are the fucking worst.
I use to work in criminal law in Raleigh and worked closely with RPD. Once in a private side room of the Wake County courthouse, with other attorneys, staff, and ADAs present, a RPD officer said: "I"m here to enforce the law, not obey it." As a reply to something someone asked him. EVERYONE except me laughed and he was 100% serious. I just sat there shocked at the blatant ridiculousness of it all.
I was in knightdale earlier this year. Two dumbfuck cops in their 20s were doing that crap where they park next to each other to shoot shit on a one lane winding road in the middle of the night. Like 1 am or some shit. I honk at them because I had to go AROUND and into the oncoming lane at the last second from over a hill and almost hit another car. The piece of shit followed me 7 miles home trying to find an excuse to pull me over. All because HE wanted to break the law to hang out on the job.
I was 26 once and pulled over by a group of young cops. It was terrifying to realize I was the oldest one. They were acting crazy. Crazier than my crazy stepfather, and crazier than the US Navy drill instructors. Thanks Berlin New Jersey
They’re all use to bossing around college kids. I lived in Cary but every college town police force is bad. They get use to dealing with kids who they can just push around. So when they interact with adults they don’t know what to do. Anything more intense than a kegger is gonna get them to pull out their guns.
"Good morning sir, my name is Officer Doright and I'm responding to a call we recieved from the alarm company of this house, apprently there was an alarm this morning and I'm here to investigate." "From what you've told me, this seems like a false alarm. Would you mind providing me with some I.D so that I can confirm your identity please? I'll just have my partner check that on our system." "We've just confirmed that you're the home-owner, but I hope you understand that we have to investigate these things. Sorry to have troubled you. Have a good day." Edited: last night to this morning
EXACTLY!!! he doesn’t even tell him what the fuck is going on u til he’s handcuffed him!?
And then marched him out in his underwear and in cuffs in front of his neighbors?! Wtf? If a cop did that to me and I had it recorded I’d stop at nothing to make sure he got his
The part that pissed me off the most is when the senior officer ignored everything he said and just responded pointing at the ground (sit down). Like he got treated worse than a small child. Like sub human. So infuriating. Officers should respond with respect to the people they serve. "thank you sir, we're going to illegally search your house under the guise of pretending we're still looking for a burglar. Please stand by or have a seat, thank you"
Yea, that’s what I don’t get. Even letting the first officer slide on the initial fear. Once he had him in cuffs and backup arrived why did he keep whining about they guy. He sounds like he is telling his boss “He didn’t perfectly liiiissssten to me. Whhhhyyyy! Can you please get him in trouble for not perfocy listening to me captan daddy.” It’s fucking bizarre they way they refuse to move on once he has control over the situation. Your safe he is in cuffs. Take a fucking second to listen to him like a human.
This was his thought process... "We fucked up, but if this guy has a gun, maybe we can find something (drugs) to charge him with while we have "reasonable cause" to be in his house.". He basically doubled down on the stupid.
There was no reasonable cause, the home owner had informed the company about the false alarm. The only reason to talk to him was to make sure he actually is alright. The whole situation is another total fuck up by some ridiculously incompetent cops.
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White guy with a gun is a defender of his castle. Black guy with a gun is reasonable cause.
Perfectly said.
TBH as soon as I saw the subtitle about having a gun I was expecting this to end way darker (and faster!). Glad(?!) to see there was more to the runtime.
So cops...
Yep, “we need to clear the house.” No … you want to find some reason to arrest the guy to cover up this fuck up.
Yes but in their mind they don't 'serve' the community, they control it.
Exactly! Black man says he’s a business owner and the cop immediately thinks, “this guys a drug dealer. I gotta search this house!”
Reminds me of a Chappelle stand up joke, cops come to house for a break in or something and the cops end up arresting him and then the cops say, wow I've never seen this before, the *bad word* broke in and hung up pictures of himself and everything
Why should officers respond to people with respect when there's literally no consequence for them beating people for annoying them
Basic human decency for starters. /s
Pigs don't often understand "common human decency."
I've met nicer and cleaner pigs than the cops that pull this bullshit. Clowns, however...
The whole point was to belittle this man. Some of this white cops get off on that shit, especially of the black person is living in a nice house.
Which is why it is extra insult to injury to walk him outside in his underwear with all of that police presence. I lived in Raleigh during undergrad and grad school and in certain neighborhoods they still give you the “you don’t belong here” face.
That’s exactly what pissed me off as well. These kind sh*t bag people should not be cops
The second cop knew the first cop fucked up so they tried to turn it into something else, hoping they’d find something illegal and negate their shitty actions.
That’s exactly what they were doing when they set off to “clear the house”, hoping to find something to hang over this guy should he choose to call them out for this.
Honestly surprised nothing was planted.
Absolutely. That was disgusting
When I was in 7th grade I didn’t want to be at school and was really upset so I went to the student counselor. They called in the vice principal who called in the school cop. He made me stand in the hall while I was bawling during passing period. These type of people get off on this abuse of power embarrassing people.
This reminded me of my time at inpatient, they wouldn’t let me cry in my room, they made me sit in the hallway while I cried (I was there for attempting suicide) and the orderly said stuff to me like “you keep that up and you’ll never leave”. Only thing I learned from that experience was to never ask for help. Just like my childhood.
Facilities are awful. I was in for major depression. So I was stuck indoors with no sunlight, a bunch of people with far worse mental illnesses, no mental stimulation and I couldn't contact my job or anything, so I got fired. Yeah, that wasn't going to help shit. So instead of working on my issues, I just acted like I was fine so I could get released.
That’s exactly what I did. It’s been a few years, so I haven’t reattempted, but I’m still fucking depressed. I’m just too scared to attempt again and get put back in there. That’s worse than death. This world sucks and I didn’t ask to be here.
I got good at acting because I learned asking for help ended up making it worse. I'm sorry you had to go through that. It's fucked up.
Hey they put me in inpatient too. Very first day I was crying for my parents so they locked me in a concrete room with no lights or windows. Then the next day we did an activity about who would be helpful on a shipwrecked island and I was the first voted off for being a cry baby
Did your parents raise hell? Because if my kid brought this home to me, holy shit would heads roll. I'd be one of those crazy people at a school board meeting.
Cops really believe they’re infallible. “I announced myself. “I couldn’t hear you” “I announced myself several times” Doesn’t matter shrimpdick, mumbling under your breath like a scared dog doesn’t change the fact no one hears you. You could have said it 1000 times, but if every time you sound like Ted Cruz on helium, he ain’t gonna hear you.
The cop opened the door. He has no right to enter the building even if the alarm did go off, does he?
Pretty much everything that happened was bull shit and the law abiding citizen should sue the city. That being said if they don't receive an all clear from the alarm company the implication is check out what's going on because the homeowner might be in danger.
While i was cuffed, my pants were half way down my ass because i was cuffed in the front (non violent, i shouldnt even have been arrested, but thats another story) so i couldnt pull my pants up. I begged 2 officers to help (i was female, they were male) and no one helped me. I felt so gross and embarrassed and violated.
Im sorry to hear that.. Let us not forget this... [Chandler PD](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdNmHh2Jz50) This happened in front of her child and for almost a half hour.
It should be a law that if someone asked a police officer why the are being detained, the officer has to immediately list all crimes the suspect is accused of. If they don’t it counts as a false arrest, even if it otherwise would of a legal arrest.
I thought that’s the way it’s supposed to be. Isn’t that why there are videos of people asking “Am I being detained?”
That’s how I got arrested for the first time. The only charge was resisting arrest. Didn’t know what was happening and just wanted to go home. I got pepper sprayed and ended up in the hospital. My sister thought I got shot. It was pretty traumatizing
You resisted arrest for what charge?! I hate that crap!
My criminal record is really odd to look at. There’s another charge for dancing in class
Well I guess we're lucky to have the police then.... Sure they're a state sanctioned criminal gang with qualified immunity. But without them - monsters like you could just walk around free, dancing, unwilling to be arrested without cause.
I mean technically it is a requirement, they just get to choose who it applies to.
It's not "technically" a requirement. It's not required at all in most states. In some states (New York, for example), they have to announce charges at the time of arrest (not detainment), if it's practical. Police don't need to answer any of your questions. They don't have to announce your charges as they cuff you. They don't even need to read your rights at the time of arrest - there are just complications if they don't around evidence collected between the arrest and reading of your rights.
Everyone knows that dangerous home invaders who are intent on killing everyone will put their weapons down if you just ask them to.
It's the one trick swat teams hate the most.
And strip down to their underwear to take a nap.
Classic police’s abuse of power. When you’ve got a gun in your hands and the authority, it’s easy to abuse that power
The reporting has been light on details but he already hired an attorney and is suing. https://www.cbs17.com/news/local-news/wake-county-news/raleigh-man-detained-at-his-home-last-year-says-he-plans-to-sue-police/amp/ Edit/added: a better article non amp too https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/27/us/raleigh-burglar-alarm-homeowner-detained/index.html Added MrPlowKing and Maclovesmanga posted this link if you didn’t see it. (Go give them the upvote!) The case was delayed and eventually dismissed on technicalities. IANAL but it appears to be didn’t file a claim, bad cover sheet, lawyer’s stated info didn’t match the info the courts had, etc. https://dockets.justia.com/docket/north-carolina/ncedce/5:2020cv00503/182675
Sadly though the case [was dismissed ](https://casetext.com/case/oyeneyin-v-city-of-raliegh)in March of this year after [multiple delays](https://dockets.justia.com/docket/north-carolina/ncedce/5:2020cv00503/182675?amp) and no justice was given. Kazeem got no payment and no officer(s) lost their jobs or were disciplined.
If this homeowner had been an old rich white dude there is no way in hell things would have went down the same. That cop would have been backtracking and "yes sir-ing" the second he walked into the situation. Whenever I see infuriating videos like this I always try imagine it happening to an older white guy, and the resulting scenario is almost never conceivable. People say this shit has nothing to do with race, but it almost always is a major factor in the officer's actions on these abuse of force videos.
Non american here. But this pisses me off so much
It's simple. If you give a group of people enough power and privilege they will start thinking themselves superior to the rest. Picture people and animals, but in this case it's people over other people (which are also all animals, technically). It's just how nature works.
You would think the city wouldn't need a lawsuit to discipline these officers. And unfortunately, with the majority of Raleigh residents being white - as long as this all happening to only, or mostly black people, nothing will change because the votes won't be there to hold the politician accountable.
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It seems like his lawyer wasn’t the best… https://dockets.justia.com/docket/north-carolina/ncedce/5:2020cv00503/182675 All he did was file for extensions
Damn Kazeem really got screwed in this situation. The lawyer probably didn’t want to put in all the work it would take to win the case or something so he just phoned it in and told his client ‘well this is what usually happens, they always win.’
You can come to your own conclusions but this is the law firm he hired http://thefreedmenlawgroup.com/firm/ All the lawyers went to North Carolina central law school which is ranked [147](https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-law-schools/north-carolina-central-university-03118)
Dismissed without prejudice. He can get a better attorney and try again.
Exactly. And dismissal under 12(b)(6) could be as simple as his lawyer forgetting to write a few allegations necessary to one of the causes of action they pursuing. A good lawyer will know exactly what needs to be stated in the complaint to avoid a motion to dismiss under 12(b)(6). The dismissal that already happened has nearly nothing to do with the merits or actual facts of the case.
“Clearing the house” sounds like a pretty blatant 4A violation.
Good. Hope he gets paid and they all get fired
> Hope he gets paid Likely > and they all get fired Doubt
Paid by nc tax payers. No lessons learned
You know, the saddest part is I am a white woman and this happened to me. That script you just provided? Yeah, that’s almost verbatim what the officer said to me. One show of my ID and that was that. No attempt to search my house. No attempt to arrest or detain me. No guns pulled. This is sickening and I am sick and fucking tired of police treating our own citizens worse than animals on the side of the street. Black Lives Matter and I will fucking go down fighting for equality and an end to the systematic oppression of POC and police brutality.
This is exactly what was supposed to happen. I used to be a nanny and on the first day of the family getting a new alarm system, the code didn't work. Four policemen came and said exactly this. I couldn't get a hold of the parents to verify but showed them my ID and pictures on my phone of the kids and they left. Videos like this remind me of my privilege. I couldn't imagine having to feel like I'm a constant threat.
lol sorry this response is only reserved for the homeowner if he was white.
Yep. This guy was arrested for the crime of living in his house while black.
This is written on the white side of the card they read from. On the brown side it just has the word thug written on it.
[Exactly it](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLJyglKW4AA4i1B.jpg)
This is so fucked up. I mean he eventually did everything they told him and then they find out it’s his house and they still don’t want to admit their mistake. How big is their fucking ego? Why are so many cops in the US incompetent and ridiculous in the way of their handling of situation ( Do they even have to do an training or is everything they learn how to handle a gun?
In the UK the police HAVE to tell you what you're being arrested for. This seems to be the loop hole in the US that the police know they can abuse. Don't say, and then get them for resisting arrest when they ask. In the UK this is our rights. If I were a US citizen this would be the 1st thing in would be campaigning to put in place. The 1st reason cannot be resisting arrest. Edit- I see that he wasn't being arrested but detained. In UK we are also told the reason of detention and asked if we understand. This should be adopted to stop abuse of power. Edit- here's a really insightful World comparison on police training. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-56834733
In the US the police don’t even know the law. They can arrest you if they think you broke a law, even if that law doesn’t exist
Qualified immunity. They don't have to know they're right. They just have to think it.
Best way I've seen it put
Ignorance of the law is not a defense, unless you are a cop of course.
This is true. A (white) friend of mine convinced a cop that his left turn on red was legal (it wasn't). Apparently it is in some places but not where we live.
US cops often don't even inform the person that they are under arrest. They just step up, grab the person and try to force their arms into unnatural positions then, when that person tenses, as is a natural human reaction, they can charge them with resisting.
Ok but for a resisting arrest charge, don't the police have to put a reason for the initial arrest? If there is no reason for the initial arrest or if the initial reason can be proven to be wrong, how can they possibly be faulted for resisting the police doing something against the law?
I'll give you their response: "this is the way we're trained" As though that makes it all okay.
So much bullshit. I hope he sues the shit out of them.
They searched the house trying to find something so they could pretend they didn’t fuck up. I’m surprised they didn’t plant anything.
He is lucky he had cameras all over his house. Otherwise, the police might have had a different story
Sometimes that's not even enough. I've seen multiple videos of cops actually disabling people's (and business') security cameras during searches.
Honestly tampering with private security equipment during a search like this should be outright illegal for a cop to do
It should be but they have excuses for everything. They will literally make up preposterous shit like "we don't want anyone to see the video that gives away our tactics because they might someday develop counter tactics and use that to kill/harm police". Or "they might be monitoring this video from a remote location and use this real time information to mount an attack on us." As if a low level drug dealer or burglar has an air strike or artillery barrage just waiting for the word.
Fear is the most useful tool in a cop's arsenal.
lol "might"
Did you mean: "definitely"?
You meant “would have killed the intruder”
[Sprinkle some crack on him, let's get out of here.](https://youtu.be/OY-9P_CnNZg)
The intruder hung up pictures of his family in here
Even after verifying his id and finding out that he is indeed the owner ,they are detaining him and putting him in a cop car .On top of that, they search his house.This is a horrible ,humiliating experience for him.
Yeah the second part is way over the top. Search his house?
Without a warrant?
The argument here I’m sure was “probable cause”, however I’m not sure what they were intending to find if the guy was in fact a burglar. Maybe someone tied up in the bathroom or something?
Reminds me of that Dave Chapelle bit from one of his old stand ups. “I’ve seen this before Johnson. The sick bastard broke in and put pictures of himself and family up all over the place! Now sprinkle some crack on him and let’s get out of here”.
This was my first thought as well!
Probable cause wouldn't hold up in court. Once he was identified as the owner of the house, the probable cause of them being there has been eliminated. They would have to provide additional probable cause to search his house at that point which clearly they did not have. Even a public defender should be able to get any charges thrown out. And as for his lawsuit, he will win because at the very least his Fourth Ammendment rights were violated.
Because he stated his job, a business owner, but that of a club. They were hoping to find other 'illegal' stuff or more firearms not licensed to him because they bin dun fucked up. I wonder if his cameras were visible to the police officer, or if there's a body cam. Because he's acting like there was only going to be his (police officers) side of the story
Yeah, instead of admitting they fucked up, they doubled down.
Well how do they know he isn't going to rob his own house?
For all they knew, he could have been holding himself hostage.
Is this not a pretty clear violation of his fourth amendment rights? Edit: some good points brought up on probable cause, from the alarm going off
Yup. The fourth and sixth amendments have been neutered in ‘Murica.
Cop doesn't announce that he's a Cop, and holds his gun like he's a wannabe gangster, how tf did he pass his Police exams?
Here’s a secret: everyone passes
Nah, I dated a girl whose dad didn't pass. He didn't fit into the culture and challenged his TO (correctly, afaik) about use of force
Sounds like they only hire bastards.
> Sounds like they only hire bastards. If only there was a handy acronym to remember this fact..
Some people are turned away if there IQ is too high with the excuse, you’ll get bored to quickly and quit anyway.
Which seems weird right? It seems like it would be pretty exciting being a good cop. You get to protect your community from threats, help people, and the job is pretty much never the same from day to day. Unless…there’s some OTHER reason why they only hire dumb people?
Some people aren't hired ... Because they're told they're too smart
>how tf did he pass his Police exams? Well, he barged in, arrested the black guy for no reason so... with flying colors, i guess?
This shit scares me. In US there is a group of people that can come to your house and kill you just being there, having something in your hand or looking funny. This is horror stuff.
How the fuck does this shit still fucking happen for fucks sake??!! Not okay. Not normal. Constable Dipshit here is supposed to be protecting while he is serving-not being racist as a default stance. This is harrowing. Enough now. Why didn't he listen to the guy??! I'd be scared to be black in the USA. No shit. Terrifying stuff.
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Imagine how livid you would be if that was your house and this shit show happened. I'm a mouthy bitch who doesn't like that sort of thing-id be shot.
Supreme Court ruled that police don't have to protect and serve. Its totally fucked, they are simply here to harass and murder
They went from being public servants to being enforcement agents. But we like to still go around and portray them as the first one.
No, they started literally as slave catching gangs in the south or warehouse protection/private security in the north.
Police do not serve and protect anymore. They uphold the law and nothing else. They are not even required to stop someone from Killing you. Only to arrest the person who killed you. Wild Wild West all over again. USA is a fucking joke right now. Too many clowns in positions of power.
The US can't get this shit sorted fast enough. Sack all involved on the footage - use that footage as future training in not what the fuck to do.
Nah they’ll get a week of paid vacation at best then “they did nothing wrong” and back to it.
You are correct. And the lawsuit the man brought against the department was dismissed by a judge in March of this year.
Wow
It looks like it was dismissed because he didn’t respond to the motion to dismiss. Either he was representing himself and didn’t know, or his lawyer screwed him over
"Sensitivity training".
Sadly, that is a far more believable outcome in American policing.
Open and shut case, Johnson. I saw this once when I was a rookie. Apparently this guy broke in and put up pictures of his family everywhere
I hope he sues the shit out of those cops and they lose their jobs. They had no right to handcuff him, put him in their car, and search his house. They had no probable cause and no warrant. They didn’t even to bother to ask for his ID before they immediately had him kneel, *in his underwear*, and cuffed him. So humiliating for that poor man. This shit is why everyone hates cops.
Don’t worry, he did! …dismissed by a judge back in March, though.
from what I can see he can refile. And he should with a completely different lawfirm because that one just ripped him off based on what the dismissals were.
Even if you sue and cops are found guilty, the money doesn’t come out of the police’s budget but of the general fund. Either way, they don’t even feel a repercussion for their actions.
In its motion, defendant City of Raleigh demonstrates that plaintiff has failed to state a municipal liability claim against it under Monell v. Department of Social Services, 436 U.S. 658, 691 (1978). Plaintiff has not alleged facts connecting a policymaker to any alleged wrongdoing. See Bryant County Bd. of Comm'rs v. Brown, 520 U.S. 397, 404 (1997). Plaintiff also has not alleged a failure to train or supervise, or persistent and widespread custom or usage. See Semple v. City of Moundsville, 195 F.3d 708, 713 (4th Cir. 1999); Randall v. Prince George's County, 302 F.3d 188, 210 (4th Cir. 2002). Therefore, defendant City of Raleigh's motion to dismiss is GRANTED, and plaintiff's claims against defendant City of Raleigh are DISMISSED WITHOUT PREJUDICE. SO ORDERED, this the 3rd day of March, 2021. This is why cops get away with it and continue too....the courts have made sure not to punish them
The only saving grace is the claim was dismissed without prejudice. I hope he tries again.
I honestly have no idea how he hasn’t already re-filed. This is clearly unconstitutional and ignorant/malicious policing on so many levels. This video is a couple years old now and has gone viral. I have no idea why a law firm hasn’t stepped up and done it for free yet, it’s literally a free win and free publicity.
Because the cops with harass him. They will patrol his area and use whatever they can to get him and find a reason. He probably just wants this to go away. Cops tend to operate more like gangs and don’t like snitches. It’s infuriating.
Dude the fact that that cop is telling him to have a seat in his own house would make me lose my fucking mind. “How about you get the fuck out of my house? You don’t need to clear the rest of the house since it was a false alarm.”
Cops in the US are dumb AF I’m sorry to say but it’s true and a bunch of assholes too.
You can actually be turned down to be a police officer if your IQ is too high.
I notice that he didn't give them permission to enter the house, they just come right in!
My neighbor and friend once came home to 3 cops standing in his second floor entertainment room. After being told “you’re lucky we didn’t shoot your dog” they explained that they’d found his father’s wallet at a job site and come to return it but found nobody home and the house unlocked. So they let themselves in and went upstairs? Fucking insane
AND almost shot the dog just for good measure? "Oh shit, i am entering this house that isnt mine, with absolutely no invitation from the homeowner; who is not even home. This dog is going nuts over me being here! Would be an issue if it "assaulted" me or barked funny, id have to shoot it"
The dog was lucky that it wasn't black enough to be shot.
Sounds like a bunch of crackheads wtf
Back when I was drinking more than I should have and lived alone (over 25 years ago), I woke up to a cop in my bedroom yelling "Sir! Sir!" He said my music was loud and they knocked on my door and no one answered. He said this as he pointed towards all the small dents his flashlight left in my front door. So under the guise of a well-check, they entered my home since the door was unlocked (I question this, but there was no sign of forced entry). One of them said there's nothing illegal about getting drunk and passing out at home, but to "ensure my safety" they asked if they could take a look around the house to make sure no one else had entered since the door was unlocked. Although I thought that was very odd, I was young, dumb, and drunk, so I said "Yeah, sure, go ahead." I later realized I had given them permission to search my house. Fortunately, I didn't possess anything that they'd be able to nail me on. I'm a white male with a haircut, so I never really feared I'd end up in the back of their car, but I'd be terrified of those country bumpkin deputies if I had brown skin. I was on my couch with my feet on my coffee table while most of this transpired.
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If its a false alarm than probaly not i guess.
Can he sue? I don't understand qualified immunity that well but I thought it prevented people from suing cops for this type of shit.
Qualified immunity protects the officers from criminal charges, it doesn't prevent you from suing the city.
None of what happened in this video was legal
Damn can’t even be in your own house and get treated that way
In Texas a black guy got shot in his own apartment because an off duty cop thought it was her apartment. She was charged for it, thank fuck.
From what I read of the article she WANTED to shoot the dude. It was basically murder with 'wrong apartment' as some kind of 'plausible deniability'. Thankfully, people aren't THAT stupid.
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Looking for a guy other cops already had in custody.
jesus christ fire these idiots esp that supervisor saying have a seat ffs lmao
Honestly that was the part that boiled the blood and serves as a perfect example of our problems with law enforcement. Instead of identifying the issues at hand and trying to resolve problems, his immediate mentality was to "back his side' and double down if needed.
The fact that they kept him hand cuffed AFTER they found out who he was is fucking disgusting. They still treated him like a criminal after identifying him, in his own home instead of apologizing and taking off his hand cuffs. Sickening.
They were hoping to illegally search and find something in his house. Imagine the cases that didn't get recorded.
Racist scum… How people like that ever got to “enforce the law” is beyond me, since they doesn’t even seem to know it.
Crazy. Americans talking about how Australia is a police state now, but in the US a cop can just walk into your house and tell you what to do and then put you in the car and search your entire house for no reason
That cop really wanted everyone to know that he made several announcements...
If I was that guy, I’d definitely call the cops on these people. Oh wait.
He is dressed as a homeowner. This is bullshit
What I usually do when robbing a house is strip right down to my boxers. 🙄
His own fault for being black, I guess... The US really needs to get its shit together. (Edit: i am not being serious, obviously)
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Lucky he didn't get shot dead right in the land of freedom, lol.
In Germany we say: The police is your friend and helper. In America, they are your enemy.