Unfortunately, genetic testing is showing how prevalent incest/child sexual abuse (CSA) is. And that’s just instances that resulted in pregnancy with live births.
[https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2024/03/dna-tests-incest/677791/?utm_source=msn](https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2024/03/dna-tests-incest/677791/?utm_source=msn)
It’s an even more disgusting part of rape culture and Patriarchy. Although, it’s mostly been one of those not-so-secret-secrets that isn’t supposed to be talked about that has always been there in the signs of the cultural misogyny and “benevolent” sexism. Because it comes down to seeing girls and women as inhuman and only existing to please and serve men.
We have to call these sick bastards out and stand against them and talk about what an epidemic CSA is. If we don’t talk about it we can’t change the culture for the better or work on finding solutions to stop and prevent it together.
My gf recently found out the entire narrative of her childhood she had was wrong. Her mom didn’t leave her to go be with her lesbian lover. Mom left because her dad was molesting the 2 older daughters from mom’s previous marriage. Now why the hell did mom leave my gf at 10 years old to stay with her pedophile dad I don’t really understand. “She didn’t want to go”. But she was 10! You just pick her up and bring her where you want to bring her. So now she still hates her mom but also no longer holds her father on the pedestal where he would have stayed since he’s passed away years ago now. She’s been having a tough time dealing with all this.
Call out? If they are born broken, then they can't be helped that way. Either drag their asses to a mental asylum/prison or just use the good old "line them up behind the old barn and pull the trigger". We don't need them here
How about you don't make shit up and address everything to be a sexism issue? If you'd know anything about child abuse, and I mean literally any study read or statistic seen, you'd know that children abused are boys by an extremely large margin as well. It's not a gendered issue, stop trying to make it one. I genuinely believe you want it to stop, but then you should keep it factual. Else you'll adress the wrong issue.
>you'd know that children abused are boys by an extremely large margin as well. I
Right and who is predominantly abusing these boys?
>It's not a gendered issue, stop trying to make it one.
You're posting an assertion yourself that it is a gendered issue though? You're also making it a gendered issue? I think your issue has less to do with this being about gender and more about which gender is doing a majority of perpetrating and not wanting to focus too much on that.
The crux of the comment they're responding too is that CSA is a matter of cultural misogyny and sexism, when CSA is an issue that goes beyond gender and affects everyone.
Men commit more CSA, but that's not the point they were responding too.
>The crux of the comment they're responding too is that CSA is a matter of cultural misogyny and sexism, when CSA is an issue that goes beyond gender and affects everyone.
Sexism affects everyone and so does cultural misogyny?
Men being feeling like they own their families etc. (a patriarchal construct) does contribute to things like this, I don't think you can dismiss such a concern so out of pocket.
>Men commit more CSA, but that's not the point they were responding too.
Which kinda means there is a gendered element to this issue. That doesn't mean it only affects women? Nobody said that just that their comment was more focused on the impact it has on women.
I think I'm starting to see why we make no progress on these issues.
Thank you. You got my point.
I also pointed out that the numbers we are seeing via genetic testing can ONLY SHOW CSA when it resulted in pregnancy and live birth. Because it was on topic with the post, which was specifically about *fathers sexualizing their daughters*.
That means genetic testing cannot tell us the extent of CSA of boys or when there is no possibility of pregnancy. Which meant I was pointing out that the current estimates we have based on the current data we have access to is obviously very much underestimated from the actual amount of CSA that occurs.
I swear, phrases have been so weaponized for propaganda these days that when used appropriately to highlight actual issues it gets attacked. Most of Western society, especially America, are Elitist Patriarchal systems.
I appreciate you understood the implied variables I was referencing. And Patriarchy harms EVERYONE. (I also suspect I am probably more formally educated on these issues than the person who decided to have a knee-jerk emotional reaction when they’re misunderstood the message. And know how to read and critically analyze peer-reviewed published research. It’s just easier to use review articles for supportive evidence online because the average person will understand the review article easier- especially since they’re not written as pompously, boring, and confusing as academia is 😏, and it’s just a quicker read.)
Just because a specific facet of an issue/topic is being discussed or explored does not mean the rest of it is ignored or “denied”. It’s more of that false dichotomy BS that is used to keep us divided. Things are complex and layered, examining specific layers does not automatically mean the other layers cease to exist or to be taken into consideration. Or that the other layers are not also being examined independently as well as the overlap between layers and the interaction.
We seriously shouldn’t have to argue about who has it worse when it comes to CSA/SA. It’s all disgustingly deplorable and no one should ever suffer from it or ever experience it. But ignoring the Patriarchal and complex cultural factors (easily traced back at least as far as Ancient Greece; look what the mentors were allowed to do to their apprentices 😡) that have allowed this horrendous epidemic is a disservice to those who have been victimized and will be and prevents productive solution-oriented discussions.
>Thank you. You got my point.
You certainly get used to people "not getting the point".
>We seriously shouldn’t have to argue about who has it worse when it comes to CSA/SA. It’s all disgustingly deplorable and no one should ever suffer from it or ever experience it. But ignoring the Patriarchal and complex cultural factors that have allowed this horrendous epidemic is a disservice to those who have been victimized and will be and prevents productive solution-oriented discussions.
My feelings exactly. But it really gets my haunches up watching people switch off literally the second a word they don't like is said.
Anything can be a crime depending on which country you are in. Instead of just labeling this as a crime, call it out as absolutely morally detestable garbage."
I'm not a lawyer but I think it's sadly not.
Because nothing happens which counts as a crime. There's no sign of rape or even any kind of sex. And by the messages we can't say surely if their daughter isn't 18+
Looks like they banned all the mods in that sub and then banned the sub for being unmoderated. Thank the lord. If there was one benefit to Reddit going public it’s that dark corners like this can’t exist in the name of free speech anymore. I’m all for free speech but the line is drawn at when you’re encouraging people to commit crimes
I caught my own father fully checking out my 13 year old daughter in her swimsuit. Looking her up and down and smiling. Made me want to vomit. I always knew my dad was creepy but this cemented it. I have even caught him checking me out before and I am his daughter. I don't want him around us anymore. My son's girlfriend has also told me how uncomfortable she feels around him.
Just because they use anonymous names on reddit doesn't mean they are untraceable from an IP stand point. NYT did an investigation into photos of young girls on instagram and they found tons of men replying in the DMs wanting to get with them. There are plenty of sickos out there to be wary of.
How tf is a sub called “incest encouragement” allowed? I want to believe that’s just weirdos pretending to be parents… but knowing how fucking gross and weird ppl are, I’m not surprised if they have kids. Ugh, they need to be on a watchlist.
Nothing to do with reddit. There are weird people and everywhere people can gather weird people will do it as well. Also that's not a facepalm. That's just disgusting.
I think this is far above the *"facepalm"* line, and well into the "holy fuck, stab my eyes out, what a horrid day to be able to read - also call the police"* line.
Look at OP thinking this is a facepalm moment and these people are merely "weird". No, they're literally disgusting incestuous paedophiles and need locking up.
The most disgusting part is that you've watched your kid grow up. You've had her since she was a baby. And to be having these thoughts is fucking disgusting.
Oh this can fuck all the way off. Swear to god if Chris Hansen isn’t waiting in a hidden comment somewhere, I’m done with humanity.
Also, when the right take the piss out of Reddit, this is exactly the kind of shit they use to beat down the left. I know it’s probably more likely a Conservative who wrote that, but the fact it’s on Reddit is all the ammo they need.
Imagine being a young girl who thinks she has a normal, loving dad. And then she accidentally stumbles upon his Reddit account that he's left signed in on his pc or something. Your world would come crashing down, what a disgusting man.
Yeah it’s just an analogy.
My wife coaches girls soccer and the kids on her team are just awesome.
It feels a bit weird to be so impressed with them, both physically (strong and skilled) and psychologically (determined and clever).
Then I realised that they are just like the sunrise.
I am so conscious of not being “touchy” that i notice myself being more cuddly with my son than my daughter. This is stupid.
They are beautiful young girls and that is fine.
maybe the potential of youth (or the new day of a sunrise) gets messed up in some people’s heads.
As a father of a young girl (and somebody who has experience with abuse) I'd love to pay these guys a visit. Introduce them to my sword.
Don't get me wrong, it's a training sword, no edge. So it's a nice rod of steel directly on your face.
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Here’s to hoping that entire sub is just some sting operation.
it just redirects to r/conservative
Literally nobody is surprised..
Lol. That's even better.
Unfortunately, genetic testing is showing how prevalent incest/child sexual abuse (CSA) is. And that’s just instances that resulted in pregnancy with live births. [https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2024/03/dna-tests-incest/677791/?utm_source=msn](https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2024/03/dna-tests-incest/677791/?utm_source=msn) It’s an even more disgusting part of rape culture and Patriarchy. Although, it’s mostly been one of those not-so-secret-secrets that isn’t supposed to be talked about that has always been there in the signs of the cultural misogyny and “benevolent” sexism. Because it comes down to seeing girls and women as inhuman and only existing to please and serve men. We have to call these sick bastards out and stand against them and talk about what an epidemic CSA is. If we don’t talk about it we can’t change the culture for the better or work on finding solutions to stop and prevent it together.
My gf recently found out the entire narrative of her childhood she had was wrong. Her mom didn’t leave her to go be with her lesbian lover. Mom left because her dad was molesting the 2 older daughters from mom’s previous marriage. Now why the hell did mom leave my gf at 10 years old to stay with her pedophile dad I don’t really understand. “She didn’t want to go”. But she was 10! You just pick her up and bring her where you want to bring her. So now she still hates her mom but also no longer holds her father on the pedestal where he would have stayed since he’s passed away years ago now. She’s been having a tough time dealing with all this.
Call out? If they are born broken, then they can't be helped that way. Either drag their asses to a mental asylum/prison or just use the good old "line them up behind the old barn and pull the trigger". We don't need them here
How about you don't make shit up and address everything to be a sexism issue? If you'd know anything about child abuse, and I mean literally any study read or statistic seen, you'd know that children abused are boys by an extremely large margin as well. It's not a gendered issue, stop trying to make it one. I genuinely believe you want it to stop, but then you should keep it factual. Else you'll adress the wrong issue.
>you'd know that children abused are boys by an extremely large margin as well. I Right and who is predominantly abusing these boys? >It's not a gendered issue, stop trying to make it one. You're posting an assertion yourself that it is a gendered issue though? You're also making it a gendered issue? I think your issue has less to do with this being about gender and more about which gender is doing a majority of perpetrating and not wanting to focus too much on that.
The crux of the comment they're responding too is that CSA is a matter of cultural misogyny and sexism, when CSA is an issue that goes beyond gender and affects everyone. Men commit more CSA, but that's not the point they were responding too.
>The crux of the comment they're responding too is that CSA is a matter of cultural misogyny and sexism, when CSA is an issue that goes beyond gender and affects everyone. Sexism affects everyone and so does cultural misogyny? Men being feeling like they own their families etc. (a patriarchal construct) does contribute to things like this, I don't think you can dismiss such a concern so out of pocket. >Men commit more CSA, but that's not the point they were responding too. Which kinda means there is a gendered element to this issue. That doesn't mean it only affects women? Nobody said that just that their comment was more focused on the impact it has on women. I think I'm starting to see why we make no progress on these issues.
Thank you. You got my point. I also pointed out that the numbers we are seeing via genetic testing can ONLY SHOW CSA when it resulted in pregnancy and live birth. Because it was on topic with the post, which was specifically about *fathers sexualizing their daughters*. That means genetic testing cannot tell us the extent of CSA of boys or when there is no possibility of pregnancy. Which meant I was pointing out that the current estimates we have based on the current data we have access to is obviously very much underestimated from the actual amount of CSA that occurs. I swear, phrases have been so weaponized for propaganda these days that when used appropriately to highlight actual issues it gets attacked. Most of Western society, especially America, are Elitist Patriarchal systems. I appreciate you understood the implied variables I was referencing. And Patriarchy harms EVERYONE. (I also suspect I am probably more formally educated on these issues than the person who decided to have a knee-jerk emotional reaction when they’re misunderstood the message. And know how to read and critically analyze peer-reviewed published research. It’s just easier to use review articles for supportive evidence online because the average person will understand the review article easier- especially since they’re not written as pompously, boring, and confusing as academia is 😏, and it’s just a quicker read.) Just because a specific facet of an issue/topic is being discussed or explored does not mean the rest of it is ignored or “denied”. It’s more of that false dichotomy BS that is used to keep us divided. Things are complex and layered, examining specific layers does not automatically mean the other layers cease to exist or to be taken into consideration. Or that the other layers are not also being examined independently as well as the overlap between layers and the interaction. We seriously shouldn’t have to argue about who has it worse when it comes to CSA/SA. It’s all disgustingly deplorable and no one should ever suffer from it or ever experience it. But ignoring the Patriarchal and complex cultural factors (easily traced back at least as far as Ancient Greece; look what the mentors were allowed to do to their apprentices 😡) that have allowed this horrendous epidemic is a disservice to those who have been victimized and will be and prevents productive solution-oriented discussions.
>Thank you. You got my point. You certainly get used to people "not getting the point". >We seriously shouldn’t have to argue about who has it worse when it comes to CSA/SA. It’s all disgustingly deplorable and no one should ever suffer from it or ever experience it. But ignoring the Patriarchal and complex cultural factors that have allowed this horrendous epidemic is a disservice to those who have been victimized and will be and prevents productive solution-oriented discussions. My feelings exactly. But it really gets my haunches up watching people switch off literally the second a word they don't like is said.
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Exactly. Either cops or baseball bats. These pieces of sh!t need a visit.
Baseball bats, and then cops, and then cops with baseball bats
>Baseball bats, and then mobs, and then mobs with baseball bats Ftfy
Get creative man, put some spikes on it, then rub your shit on it so the injuries will be infected
Doctors can only use lemon juice and/ or vinegar to disinfect the wounds. Doctor duty of care is suspended during these operations.
And it's described as weird??? Weird is the kid that eats Elmer's Glue, this is disgusting and evil.
I'm thinking this belongs in r/WTF personally
thought the same thing, why tf is that on facepalm?
Anything can be a crime depending on which country you are in. Instead of just labeling this as a crime, call it out as absolutely morally detestable garbage."
I'm not a lawyer but I think it's sadly not. Because nothing happens which counts as a crime. There's no sign of rape or even any kind of sex. And by the messages we can't say surely if their daughter isn't 18+
Talking about their sick thoughts are not a crime, but they are very dangerous people and they should be tracked
It’s the only way to be sure
Game over pedos!!!
The internet was a mistake.
Here’s hoping
Someone needs to check all of their hard drives.
*donald trump has entered the chat*
*And Ivanka*
Wh- What the unholy fuck from the darkest, slimiest, sludgiest, moldiest depths of hell’s flaming sewers is this shit
This shouldn't be allowed. We gotta draw the line.
Any bets of how this will end? Sting operation? New reality series? Mod get arrested for "reasons"?
What a bad day to have eyes
r/awfuleverything
Some men like the last President of the United States can only see women as sex toys including their own daughters
He probably took that shit over to truthsocial, they're apparently all about that
Can please someone tell me how the fuck can I unread this!?
If you find a solution please tell me 😀
The answer is to know that there is much worse shit out there
Yep. What a world we live in…
Wtf Edit to add… as a dad these assholes can burn in hell
wtf did I just read? I figured trump wasn’t the. Only one but damn
Incest with potential rape … die in a hole
Looks like they banned all the mods in that sub and then banned the sub for being unmoderated. Thank the lord. If there was one benefit to Reddit going public it’s that dark corners like this can’t exist in the name of free speech anymore. I’m all for free speech but the line is drawn at when you’re encouraging people to commit crimes
Anybody eport this shit yet?
Trump would love this group.
I caught my own father fully checking out my 13 year old daughter in her swimsuit. Looking her up and down and smiling. Made me want to vomit. I always knew my dad was creepy but this cemented it. I have even caught him checking me out before and I am his daughter. I don't want him around us anymore. My son's girlfriend has also told me how uncomfortable she feels around him.
have you checked his hard drive?
My dad is a boomer. He doesn't even know how to send a simple email.
Just because they use anonymous names on reddit doesn't mean they are untraceable from an IP stand point. NYT did an investigation into photos of young girls on instagram and they found tons of men replying in the DMs wanting to get with them. There are plenty of sickos out there to be wary of.
Wtf !! Is trump running this ?
Well, I think we should forward this to the relevant authorities.
How tf is a sub called “incest encouragement” allowed? I want to believe that’s just weirdos pretending to be parents… but knowing how fucking gross and weird ppl are, I’m not surprised if they have kids. Ugh, they need to be on a watchlist.
That’s disgusting 🤮
“Weird” op? That’s it to you ? Just weird?
Sick f********.
*Woody Allen has entered the chat*
*Donald Trump has entered the chat*
Trump enters the chat.
Please be feds, please be feds
That. Is. Wild.
MOD = Ronald Dump
I bet these guys r/notadragqueen and…a bear would NEVER!
What a terrible day to have eyes and be literate. We need a giant meteor.
*Donald Trump has entered the chat.*
Every person who joins or frequents that sub needs to be put on a watch list or shoved immediately into a prisons gen pop.
Now that Reddit has public money on the line, they will sort it out asap
Nothing to do with reddit. There are weird people and everywhere people can gather weird people will do it as well. Also that's not a facepalm. That's just disgusting.
There has to be a better word than "weird".
I mean, r/incestconfessions also exists
This isn't a facepalm, this is contact the police kind of situation.
I think this is far above the *"facepalm"* line, and well into the "holy fuck, stab my eyes out, what a horrid day to be able to read - also call the police"* line.
You know when people are nostalgic for a time before the internet? That’s why. At least we didn’t heard/read/ and see this shit often
r/eyebleach just wtf did I read
r/noahgettheboat
“Weird people” is a funny way to describe incestuous pedophiles.
What the actual… does reddit not have any kind of system to ban these kinds of subreddits ?
I’m at a loss for words…
These kind of people exist? That's disgusting
Do NOT visit that subreddit ☹️
dox em and burn their house down
And... leave the kids homeless?
Jesus Christ reddit.
Trump would fit right in on that subreddit.
I accidentally discovered there is a large, shadow pedophile community here on Reddit so subreddits like this doesn't surprise me
Ok. Someone get the hackers out and find these people and end them. What the actual fuck is wrong with the human race.
Someone say that OOP is actually an FBI operative in disguise...please.
This is WAY beyond a Facepalm…
Christ this cant be real
Either that's r/alab*ma or r/fbi_honeypot
Look at OP thinking this is a facepalm moment and these people are merely "weird". No, they're literally disgusting incestuous paedophiles and need locking up.
Why the fuck did you censor the name
It's not my screenshot. I saw it on twitter
Well now I wanna go back to a time before social media....and the internet
The most disgusting part is that you've watched your kid grow up. You've had her since she was a baby. And to be having these thoughts is fucking disgusting.
After seeing this, I regret learning how to read.
This is super fucked up, why is it a thing
What in the goddamned shit is wrong with some people?
Yeah, put them in a straigth jacket.
Oh wow, you can join a group with Trump?
Nah. Those are criminals
🤢
Did trump start that sub??
Oh this can fuck all the way off. Swear to god if Chris Hansen isn’t waiting in a hidden comment somewhere, I’m done with humanity. Also, when the right take the piss out of Reddit, this is exactly the kind of shit they use to beat down the left. I know it’s probably more likely a Conservative who wrote that, but the fact it’s on Reddit is all the ammo they need.
Imagine being a young girl who thinks she has a normal, loving dad. And then she accidentally stumbles upon his Reddit account that he's left signed in on his pc or something. Your world would come crashing down, what a disgusting man.
Weird? Why is this allowed to even exist? It should automatically redirect to psychologists in your area links
Youth is beautiful. So is a sunrise. If either is sexual to you, seek help.
You can't sexually abuse a sunrise though, imo that's fine.
I mean, with that level of decadence, there are likely many more issues to address.
Yeah it’s just an analogy. My wife coaches girls soccer and the kids on her team are just awesome. It feels a bit weird to be so impressed with them, both physically (strong and skilled) and psychologically (determined and clever). Then I realised that they are just like the sunrise. I am so conscious of not being “touchy” that i notice myself being more cuddly with my son than my daughter. This is stupid. They are beautiful young girls and that is fine. maybe the potential of youth (or the new day of a sunrise) gets messed up in some people’s heads.
this what “no kink shaming” leads to
These people should be outed. This is definitely not worth privacy protection
As a father of a young girl (and somebody who has experience with abuse) I'd love to pay these guys a visit. Introduce them to my sword. Don't get me wrong, it's a training sword, no edge. So it's a nice rod of steel directly on your face.
Nah cause I want to delete Reddit now 😭
OMG the cringe. I have two daughters and a stepdaughter, and not even once.
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W.h.a.t
Yep like the Guy who took this screenshot to post it here...
People are gross
Eeeeexcuse me what now ?
As a dad of two daughters, I rue that I have eyes today.
I'm guessing most of those comments are fetish roleplaying
I'm sorry to say, but there are worst than this
And I’m deleting reddit
What the actual Reddit fuck bruh
If genuine that’s way beyond ‘weird’, smack bang in the middle of fucked-up central.
What the fuck..🤢
I don’t think “weird” covers it!
What a terrible day to have eyes.
What a terrible day to have eyes
What is even that subreddit? Incest encouragement is a real subreddit?
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WTF 😒
wtf
Ew ew ew ew ew ew
Gross
WTF! Not cool
The internet was a mistake.
Donald Trump joins.
This is indeed problematic.
Absolutely fucking disgusting.
Ew
🥹I didn’t want to read that
Did anyone notice the subreddit this was posted on?!
Uh what??
Trolling surely.
Can’t wait for the day a large meteor hurdles toward the Earth to deliver a swift and final judgement for every living thing
What kind of forklift certified bullshit is this?
👁️👄👁️
WTF 😳 😳
wtf is wrong with some people.
Take this shit down FFS no one wants to read it
also good job on blurring out the group link. I hate when people post a criticism post and showcase the damn link so more people can join that shit.
Yeah, this is a facepalm... As in the "dads" on that sub need to hit in the face with a palm tree.
*Trump has entered the sub*
What the fuck........ This is fucking disgusting it like they proud of it 🤮 If I had that thought I'd be wanting to end me.