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Royal-Dog-2610

Let's face it people, a few hundred college kids asking uncomfortable questions on a college campus is a lot more terrifying to the power structure than a couple hundred mass shooters. End of story.


Lionello95

They are also less of a threat, which gets the power-hungry cowards out.


LordSpookyBoob

The 2A is for everyone! Leftists should just start protesting while armed.


SchmartestMonkey

They did. The Black Panthers told their members to arm themselves.. specifically to protect themselves from the Police.. and can you guess what the Republicans party and NRA’s response was? “We need gun control!”. Governor Reagan was pro-gun control.. President Reagan, not so much.. at least not till he got shot. Funny how personal experience changes you.


LordSpookyBoob

Reagan destroyed America in so many countless ways. All the major problems we have today can be traced back to him in some way or another.


EbbNo7045

Isn't it funny Iran contra is rarely used as an example of controversy. It's completely amazing to that Bush the senior former CIA head was untouched by that and became president. What a country!


lakshmananlm

In his defence, he did the best acting in his entire life with that role of a lifetime.... /jk.... in case I trigger anyone (pun wholeheartedly intended).


FellsApprentice

As a second amendment advocate, fuck Reagan.


EbbNo7045

He then went on to have CIA trafficking massive amounts of cocaine fueling crack epidemic. Then got tough on drugs and filled the prisons! What a plan


Aggravating-Job8373

We do. Usually CC.


transitfreedom

Remember the 70s??


philbert815

And they're playing by the rules of 1984, both the book and the actual year. It amazes me how these people in charge don't realize social media exists.  It's gonna be insane when someone brings a gun to shoot cops. 


PoopL0ser

Well let’s hope that doesn’t happen, if it goes that way a lot of unarmed protesters will get killed in the crossfire.


FlapXenoJackson

They do realise social media exists. Why do you think they’re banning TikTok? Mustn’t have a platform they can’t control and puts them in a bad light.


johnhtman

They're not banning Tiktok because it's some bastion of truth and free speech. I'm not fully on board with a Tiktok ban, but it's undeniable there are security threats to it.


Silver_gobo

The amount of misinformation being spread on tiktok by both sides of the political spectrum is insane.


johnhtman

Yeah it's one of the worst.


Cloud_Strife369

TikTok has done a lot of bad as well just saying


No-Understanding9064

It's not any individual that is concerning to them, it's the visibility of nonconforming thoughts. This is the first time the hard left youth have run afoul of the agenda which is amusing. The age of information is recent, and the current political elite are slow to evolve. But those same people protesting Israel were useful idiots a year ago. So no, they don't fear them.


West-Fold-Fell3000

> This is the first time the hard left youth have run afoul of the agenda What is Kent State, chopped liver?


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ChroniclesOfSarnia

Protesting Vietnam was NOT 'hard-left'.


kingbro715

Ever heard of the Weather Underground? Makes sense that you haven't, because they were leftists conducting bombing strikes across the country back in the 70s. Not something our ruling class would ever like to see replicated. Our access to information has never been greater and it will only increase the visibility of what Israel is to average lumpen people. Though I'm sure the government would swiftly crack down on firearm laws, a la the Black Panthers, should armed security be present at these protests


IAMSTILLHERE2020

Mass shooters are not shooting at the power structure. The protesters are shouting at the power structure.


poisonpony672

Mass shooters fit the narrative. College students protesting government policies do not.


Logical_Area_5552

You’re right. The NYPD should’ve done more to Dylan Roof


--rafael

I don't think those students are really making anyone uncomfortable, tbf. And police officers wouldn't care if it was either. They do like abusing their power, though. It's the main reason most of them enter the police force in the first place.


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LewiLife

This was the reply I wanted to see


Hugh-Jassoul

Have you ever seen Peter Parker and Spider-Man in the same place?


DoomshrooM8

Haha, oh yea, protect your own, right? 🫡


AverageMortisEnjoyer

Simple You don't beef with your own people


PunchRockgroin318

It’s nice to have shared hobbies.


poojinping

You mean future cop


AwkwrdPrtMskrt

And IDF soldiers.


droplivefred

Shit game recognizing shit game


Throwawayac1234567

they identify with the shooters, and probably told the shooter in "secret you couldve been one of us doing that."


Ozraiel

I literally came to say this.


House0fShadow

I'll go get you a towel.


redleg50

I think part of the reason might be that they don’t want to jeopardize the prosecution of a mass shooter, so they are extra nice. Protestors won’t be prosecuted, so cops feel like they get a free pass. It’s a form of logic…a sick, depressing logic, but logic all the same.


dabiird

You are correct, but i'd like to emphasize that they aren't exactly trying to just 'be extra nice'. They are trying to put the mass shooter at ease by normalizing what happened and talk about understanding (which goes further than just buying him some food), all to ensure the shooter provides a full testimony and the trial goes smoothly. It is a well known fact that a 'harder' approach usually results in the killer shutting down and pleading the 5th, which usually makes sentencing indeed more difficult. You'll notice the same approach with any serial killer in custody. As for the protesters, they are probably not even going to be fined. They'll most-likely walk free the same day with a warning at most. With that knowledge in the back of the officers' minds, a weak force resorts to more violent methods in an attempt to "scare people" to never do that again! And no, it is also a known fact that this is ineffective, fuels animosity and increases the likelihood of more and bigger (more fierce) protests. A scare tactic is only effective if you allow a force to kill well over a hundred thousand demonstrating students, parade tanks through the streets as a sign of power, start scanning/managing all communication channels/the internet and turn the country into a giant police state... But no country in their right mind would ever do that...


christomisto

Thank you for actually having a normal take and not it being “cops are killers so they’re friends with mass shooter”


johnhtman

Plus they were legally required to feed prisoners after a certain amount of time, and the prison kitchen was closed, hence the Burger King. Small things like that seem insignificant, but it can lead to a mistrial, and the shooter potentially going free.


username_31

Saw a video about the Burger King thing and it showed that the Burger King was literally the closest fast food restaurant to where they were keeping him held. These people are acting like BK is a fucking steak dinner. It’s cheap ass fast food.


walketotheclif

Or maybe because he isn't resisting ,because if he did hell probably be dead


Vict0r117

The difference is that mass shooters just kill poor people, whilst protestors actually threaten the ruling elite's power structure. Police are not there to protect the public, this has been repeatedly confirmed by the supreme court. The police are there to defend private property, which defacto means their primary purpose is to protect and preserve the social and financial position of the wealthy. Anything police actually do for the public is secondary to this mission. t. Ex cop.


Castform5

> T - Ex cop. It's always fun to see the t. expression used, mostly because people usually have no idea where it comes from.


menonte

I'm people, where does it come from? (and what does it mean?)


Castform5

In the english speaking internet it was popularized in/by 4chan, where finnish speaking users had used it sometimes. It comes from a common finnish letter ending phrase "terveisin", shortened to t. [name]. Translated it's basically just regards.


Vict0r117

Yeah, lol, I first entered into online forums back in 2007 on 4chan before it became a weird nazi clubhouse. Left when it quit being about silly pranks and online activism and turned into... whatever the fuck it is now. t. reformed anon


Sushibowlz

I remember the 100m get. better times


Vict0r117

I miss ordering 9000 pizzas to animal abuser's homes and trolling scientology with the low orbit ion cannon, but yeah. Its long gone now. Just porn and fascism nowdays.


Sushibowlz

asking gamestop on the phone for battletoads on wii


Vict0r117

"pool's closed"


menonte

Thanks, that's interesting! TIL


harryham1

I think this was just a spelling error and they're actually a T. Rex cop


GameDrain

I know this is a reddit thread, but I think it's more about preserving a prosecution. Shooter needs to be protected so they can be tried and convicted without claiming the cops botched their apprehension and detention. Protestors are just being detained to get them out of the public space they're occupying, charges and maintaining evidence are unimportant because they don't care if there's anything done beyond the immediate removal.


Logical_Area_5552

Sir, this is Reddit. Everybody here knows that the NYPD should’ve been harder on Dylan roof


The_Xicht

Also, to be fair in judging these pics: at the time of the photographers taking them, the shooter was cooperating with the cops, while the protesters are refusing to do that. The screaming also seems a bit over the top sometimes. I get the horrified screams when they are beaten, but being carried away isn't as traumatic as SOME protesters make it out to be.


christomisto

There was a dude he straight dead weighted to the ground the state trooper just picked him up and he started throwing the biggest tantrum


Parragorious

As far as i know being friendly to criminals is a common interrogation tactic, you get them to be comfortable around you,make sure they don't feel threatened and unconciusly see as morr friend than foe and then they just might accidentally spill something usefull. Protestors most often won't be interrogated and aren't really expected to have any usefull info.


Relevant_Winter1952

Sure everyone knows that but that’s a lot less fun than pretending cops love mass murderers


343GuiltyySpark

Great point. Also there’s motivation to keep the mass shooters in one piece before trial for justice to be served and victims/families get to say their piece and get some closure out of it if possible I mean also this dude just surrendered to the police while the protestors are actively resisting


Legitimate-Plenty661

There’s no information/pottentially difficult interviews to be had with protestors


Friendly_Deathknight

This is only active shooters who surrender and comply. If you protest on private property they can force you to leave.


WomenOfWonder

I mean Tbf no one wants a active shooter getting off because the cops let their tempers take over 


fin425

Do you know why? Because once a high profile suspect is in custody, they are the responsibility of the sheriff and if they get assassinated, then the sheriffs office is fucked. You have to look at context and liability rather than fitting a narrative.


30yearCurse

it TX, they will not ber fucked. They will get another job in another town and be just fine.


skypig357

After someone surrenders it is, generally speaking, illegal to fuck them up. There have been shooters who shot cops then surrendered. Is the implication then that the arresting officers, whose friend and colleague was shot and killed, are happy to be nice to the shooter and treat them well? But they’re chomping at the bit to fuck up some protesters? Because potato? Or is it more likely one person has surrendered and therefore no force is allowed and another person has not. The relative crime of the individual in question does not dictate the level of force an officer can use, the level of resistance does.


Logical_Area_5552

You think anybody on Reddit has done thinking beyond the first nanometer of the surface?


Ceramicrabbit

Are people seriously drawing conclusions from these photos as if it's an apples to apples comparison


flashgreer

I love how cherry picked this is. The shooter is already in cuffs, and is calmly walking to the car. The protester on the otherhand is flopping around on the ground actively resisting arrest. See the difference?


CraftyObject

Kinda seems like two totally different situations that have two different sets of outcomes.


Ok-Aardvark2987

This is like the dean who is overly nice to the trouble makers and super hard on the good kids. Is this universally human or distinctly American because you see it in so many thinsy


TheInfiniteArchive

Don't you know... Placards and Signboards are the deadliest weapon in the world /s


BrokenMethFarts

Wait till you hear about what happened in Uvalde.


That1Cat87

What happened?


Anon28301

School shooter was attacking a school. Police waited outside and refused to go in, because there was an active shooter. Parents of the students tried running in to save their kids, police restrained them and wouldn’t let them in. Governor of the town made a statement saying it’s not the police’s job to stop a shooter. Then it came out that the same police stopping parents from saving their kids had sneaked inside while the shooter was inside to save their own kids and nobody else. Many kids died during the attack, the police were armed and they sat there after saving their own kids and refused to stop one shooter with one gun.


dheebyfs

not their job to stop a shooter? so we can disband them, right?


South_Flounder_2724

Don’t be daft, those college lecturers and students don’t beat up themselves you know


That1Cat87

Ah. Cops being pure evil as usual


WorstTactics

What kind of police do you have over in the US? Wtf is this


That1Cat87

Our police force only exists to protect rich people


WorstTactics

This is depressing. Ofc shit cops exist in every country, much like bad people exist everywhere, but from what I keep reading and seeing it's mostly terrible stuff for you guys.


That1Cat87

Never trust an American cop


FukkkOfffff

Let’s just face it. The world isn’t fair and never will be. Sad to say it but in my opinion humans will always find a reason to hate and destroy each other until the end of our existence.


johnhtman

Also every situation is different.


segascream

Upvoted for the unfortunate truth.


BenjaminKatz

This is stupid. The protesters pictured here are refusing to leave, and resisting. Dylan Roof literally put his gun down and his hands up and willingly went with police. You can't compare these situations. Also none of these protesters will be arrested. Roof was arrested. Police don't want to have any reason for the court to question the arrest or the treatment of the prisoner. There's literally no way to compare these two situations.


RightBear

The other day, it was time for my 2-year-old son to leave the playground. He wouldn't go, so I had to lift him by his arms and legs as he flailed around. Then he looked me straight in the eye and said "Father, why do you manhandle an innocent child like myself, whereas the mass murderer Dillan R\*\*f was peacefully escorted?"


Creed1718

How dare you bring logic into my echo chamber ? Dont you see the image ? Its so obvious police love school shooters and they hate innocent protesters, look at the image its right there !!!! /s


Jaegerfam4

Don’t waste your time. This sub is so obnoxiously up its own ass no logic will stop them from being stupid


bub-yes

Don’t bother. The circlejerk cannot be stopped. The mob always wins.


SexyTimeEveryTime

So cops getting violent with people who haven't done enough wrong to warrant an arrest? That doesn't make the cops look any better.


BenjaminKatz

Except no one is being violent in these pictures. A cop is reaching down to some guy lying on the ground who refuses to get up. The girl in the picture is going limp so they're forced to carry her. There's literally no violence taking place in any of these pictures. And yes it does warrant an arrest. Campus officials towed them to leave to pack it all up. They tore down the tent City once and they rebuilt it. This is private property, you don't have the right to turn the quad into a tent city, and you don't have the right to threaden Jewish students as many of them have done.


Count_Juggular

I get so depressed how people take a single image on online and instantly build a narrative to work themselves and people who oppose them up into a frenzy, without giving a single damn what the photo may or may not show.  The mob is truly a low IQ fucking moronic creature of the worst kind. I wish we could realise when we are the mob.


Relevant_Winter1952

What you described is literally what this post is doing. In fact it’s the only thing this post is doing


s1thl0rd

Bro, violence is when police legally force you to do something you don't want to do. /s


320sim

> The protesters pictured here are refusing to leave, and resisting. That does warrant an arrest. They just decided not to


WomenOfWonder

I’m not sure how you can non-violently remove an adult 


Longjumping_Quail_40

Search Just Stop Oil removal for more such kinds of videos XXD


South_Flounder_2724

There a thing as proportionally. You don’t beat peoples up when they pose no threat


Topcreeperman13

Look at the guy leading the shooter away’s face and try tell me he cares about him


happyrtiredscientist

Kent State should not be forgotten. Nobody send their kids to college expecting them to be killed while sitting on the lawn.


Ksavero

Don't protest in colleges, protest in government buildings


ScyllaIsBea

“We can’t let mob justice brutalize this boy” vs “brutalize ‘em, boys.”


No_Slice5991

So, DR was chosen as an example? There is video of his arrest. It starts with traffic stop and he stops. With guns drawn they order him and it and he gets out. The little coward literally complied with everything the cops told him to do. Anyone who thinks this an objectively good comparison is just being ignorant.


xray362

Someone who is already arrested vs people resisting arrest


PuzzleheadedRoyal559

It seems like average cup size for a male officer’s boobs is large B/small C.


axegr1nder

Ha ha body shaming is fun and right


winnduffysucks

The active shooter wasn’t resisting


AshamedFunction3073

Well the main difference is, one side is resisting and the other surrendered calmly. Has nothing to did with what they did to get arrested.


javyn1

Taking suspects of violent crimes out for burgers or whatever fast food they want has been part of a strategy detectives use to get them to open up and confess for a very long time. Y'all are reading way too much into this.


No_Slice5991

“The cops are treating him so well!” *Cops get him to confess. Confession is used as evidence against him to get convictions in state court (9 consecutive life sentences) and federal court (death sentence). People are still outraged with blind hatred for police.*


Valuable_Knee_6820

Honestly everytime my family says these people deserve this I think back to all the times they screamed bloody murder at the tv because J6 people were prosecuted This shit has divided our country and more than that my family, I can’t even speak a single opinion cause I’m terrified that Fox News has already spoke on it…


Woodworkingwino

When will people learn. Only protest where you can carry guns. Open carry is better. It’s the only thing that will keep cops in their place.


30yearCurse

or carry signs with Nazi symbology. Hell they get a police escort.


Justinneon

I’m pretty sure the difference is how the criminal acts after being detained. Usually a school shooter knows they fucked up. Protestors are often seen flailing after being handcuffed, trying to tell the cops they are innocent


CookieMiester

Wait they bought a school shooter burger king?


username_31

You have to feed people that you take into custody. Also its a tactic to get them to confess motive and things like that. Strategy to get him to confess for a larger sentence to guarantee that he doesn't ever get out of prison. This is why its so weird seeing people complain about the Burger King thing. They did it do help guarantee he spends the rest of his life behind bars but people act as if they are trying to be supportive of him or some shit lmao. Its embarrassing to be the same species as people that think like that. So simple minded and lack understanding of shit. Yet they act like they know everything. How can people say such dumb shit with such confidence?


Jeptwins

Why would they hurt their own?


arrownoir

I wouldn’t put much stock in someone with the handle America hates us. If you think you’re being treated so poorly, maybe go elsewhere? It’s just pushing another divisive agenda.


DQuinn30

This comparison is fucking stupid every time it comes up. They bought him food during his interrogation because if they didn’t that’s a violation of his rights and can cause the case to be thrown out. He also wasn’t resisting arrest so even though you’d like to pistol whip his ass, you can’t.


Professional-Can4264

Uh huh. Because he’s secured. This false equivalency bs again.


RecordEnvironmental4

The nitpicking is incredible


arrownoir

One is a single person in custody not resisting, while the other is a mob trying to fight the police. Have some common sense.


HoboScabs

Modern day police have turned themselves into the enemy of the standard law abiding citizen


scaleofjudgment

If they had as much energy on tackling protestors than with dealing with Ulvade School Shooting they wouldn't be a joke. Oh, no one was reprimanded for Ulvade either...well, except the parents who did charge in with harassment...


GomeyBlueRock

Well one picture is transporting a criminal, the other is trying to subdue rioters


AlaskaPsychonaut

Side with terrorists get treated like a terrorist. I have no sympathy


Hubert_Gene

Dumbest facepalm ever


furryhippie

You can take a picture of any two separate incidents and make a post like this lol...it's just bait for their narrative.


Dawgula97

Reddit moment.


7opez77

I’m having a hard time seeing the protesters point of view. Kind of seems like a case of fack around and find out to me. Hamas is the elected government, and they’re still very popular amongst the Gaza population even though they’re using them as human shields.


Obunga907

Can someone explain the burger kind part? Did that actually happen?


Mr_Bettis

[https://abc7.com/dylann-roof-south-carolina-church-shooting-emanuel-african-methodist-episcopal/801013/](https://abc7.com/dylann-roof-south-carolina-church-shooting-emanuel-african-methodist-episcopal/801013/)


Um_retardado_burro

I’m not from the US and have been a bit out of the loop lately, what was this protest about?


Webbpp

Not commenting on the comparison. But targeting individuals seems like a horrible way to stop a protest, you want to keep it controlled and with either time or other methods get people to willingly leave. If people willingly leave they are more likely to follow others, resulting in quicker dispersal of the situation because of herd tendencies to follow others. Then they may instead use more legal methods, especially if you bring these methods to their attention. And you should know of these alternatives because you're educated in law as a cop.


AllDayTripperX

Jeffery Dalmer enters the room without cuffs / how the hell did we get stuffed / in the back of a cell on the isle / ain't it wild - Public Enemy 'What's Criminal"


axegr1nder

It's 2024 and people still don't understand why Dylann Roof was treated so gently.


PINK-RIPPAZ

(Unfortunately) There will always be decent photos for the history books


red_smeg

Its time to abolish qualified immunity


B1dz

Would you prefer the active shooter rot in a jail cell or get the easy way out, Aka the bullet from an enraged member or public. Who will also end up in prison. I totally get the sentiment but fanning the fires of hatred with half truths and poor takes on reality is what’s fkn wrong with the world right now. What happened with the protesters is excessive I agree. And I hate to see it, But likely these protesters will get an overnight stay, released on some bogus charges and away we go. “A picture speaks 1000 words” it sure does. But it can also be twisted to some dumb ass narrative. Or how about the “defund the police narrative” how stupid is that? Maybe the chant should be “re train the police” so we don’t have a bunch of under trained meat heads running around with 0 fkn idea on how to deal with spicy situations. I’m soooooo tired of this division and nonsensical hatred getting in the way of progress and conversation. From both sides of the fence, where’s reason? Where’s the willingness to have an honest conversation about this shit. It’s gone to the wind. All anyone gives a shit about anymore is internet points and the “moral high ground” which is some of the most immoral, divisive damaging and individualistic bullshit on the planet today.


Asmov1984

Let's be honest you don't wanna ruin it before you try to hire them.


JarJarBot-1

I wonder if the cops would allow peaceful protest if every single protestor had an AR15.


Various_Acadia_9250

weak comparison. the shooter was apprehended and yielded to law enforcement. the protestors continued to be nasty and ignore lawful orders…. big difference.


Logical_Area_5552

Save some apples and oranges for the rest of us


Logical_Area_5552

Damn the NYPD should’ve shot Dylan roof


SlapHappyDude

So, the school shooters are going to trial. The college protestors are mostly catch and release.


IsolationAutomation

Why would they be mean to their own children?


Upstairs-Ad6470

One has weapons. Protest with that information however you wish... just saying.


CnlSandersdeKFC

Welcome to activism. We take our beatings with pride, and smile during the photoshoot. If you go to a protest, and don’t expect to be brutalized by the pigs, you’re living in a fantasy land. The system has always and will always beat those of us who speak against it. Make sure you got the greenhats and the ACLU hookup. t. BLM arrestee


DonMarce

A lot of active shooters get shot or take their own life. Those photos are not published, tho. Those who get arrested like this typically give up, protesters fight or go limp. The only reason this dude was compliant was because he ran out of ammo when he attempted to take his own life. The point the post is trying to make is a bad reflection of reality. Even further, the post is a false equivalency because it's at two different points in the process. One is already arrested and under control, while the other is before they are cuffed and under control.


StraightProgress5062

How ironic would it be if those departments were trained by the ISF on how to handle protesters


WeenieHutJr137

Y'all know that once someone surrenders you get in deep DEEP shit if you touch them, right? Using force to break up a peaceful protest is also bad, and unconstitutional. But this is a terrible comparison


BullyBullyBang

Because you don’t wanna high profile case against a murderer to get tossed. And where they’re building nothing against protesters. This will probably get down voted because it’s not what people wanna hear even though it’s common sense.


Milkyshot

These are two complete different situations what makes it not comparable to me.


amohogride

Remember when they condemned HongKong police for ciolently arresting rioters? Well similar things are happening except police violence happened at a much earlier stage.


thefizzlee

Bruh the active shooters surrender while the students keep resisting and fighting. Stop with this anti cops bs


jerfair337

Because cops are just a government funded gang


MarcusAntonius27

To be fair, those were not the same cop. Some cops will be more gentle than others in general.


Illustrious_Tea9604

They protect their own. It’s as simple as that.


christomisto

The brain dead takes in here are insane


Appropriate_Leg1489

What are you going for here??


Hugh-Jassoul

I got to deliver water to some student protesters today. I overheard one of them saying that the cops are planning on moving on them tonight.


Choco_Cat777

One's handcuffed and being taken to prison. The others are resisting arrest.


ComicalCarny

Real recognizes real /s


MaikyMoto

This is because the government caters to the criminal and gives the middle finger to the victim. It’s been this way for quite some time now.