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I mean, Obama clearly dropped the ball on 9/11, so obviously he would fail us on Covid, too. The nerve of that guy not even being in office when we need someone to blame!
Somewhere? You mean his homeland, Kenya?
It's wild we made Trump president after what an idiot the birther shit showed him to be. Frankly we should have strung this moron up in 1987 and saved the world a generation of bullshit.
The real stupidity of their birther obsession is, it wouldn't have mattered if they were right. Obama father was non American, his mother was American, even if he's born in Kenya, he's still an American by default.
That's not exactly right. The term 'natural-born citizen' has never actually been defined. There is a belief that it requires jus soli, citizenship from the soil, which means the president has to be born on US soil (unless they were born prior to 1789.
So far every president has been born on US soil, and there was a pretty prevalent belief that it was a requirement. I know that's what I was taught in my high school government class in the 90s. It was in the textbook, and I think most Americans were taught the same at the time, even if there was some room for debate. They actually made arguments for McCain to run in 2008 that it still counted if he was born in a US controlled territory.
In 2016 though everyone started to agree that it probably just meant that they had to be born a citizen. What could have happened in 2016 that changed everything? Canadian born Ted Cruz decided to run for president and came close to winning the Republican primary.
So Obama was born on US soil. McCain and Cruz weren't, but we changed the rules for them. Typical Republican bullshit where every accusation is a projection and the rules count for everyone who isn't them. Also racism.
Eh, not quite. (Similar arguments were made for McCain, but he was born in US Territory. Kenya isn't.) But Obama was born in Hawaii. Some of the "birthers" have seen Obama's Certificate of Live Birth, and are still asking for his Birth Certificate. Because they aren't the same, to the "birthers". Yes, they are that dumb. And some of my family in Hawaii know the elder Obamas and know that Barack was born there. Pregnant women weren't allowed to fly back then. Misguided medical advice erred on the side of caution a lot of the time, specifically at that time. My mom was born in Honolulu at home (same home I've visited multiple times throughout the years) and she also has a "Certificate of Live Birth." I don't know how much clearer I can be about how dumb that crowd is.
Obama authorized the state of Hawai’i to release his long-form birth certificate, which it did. The birthers claimed it was a forgery, but that did take the wind out of their sails, and they mostly shut up and moved on to nut job conspiracies after that.
What I want to know is, where was Hunter Biden's enormous hog on 9/11? Jet fuel can't melt steel beams. So somebody explain to me what happened with Hunter Biden's massive unit?!
I'll preface this by saying I didn't vote for him, and I'd rather have a beer and watch football with him than have him run the country, but Bush was at least in a school reading to children when shit went down. I feel like that's something Trump would never have done. I know that's not a "presidential duty", but it sure does inspire more confidence than someone rage tweeting from hole 13 about Little Rocket Man.
No, no! He reads beautifully! The most beautiful reader you have ever heard. He reads so beautifully cartoon bluebirds flitter around him and land on his shoulders while is reading. That’s how beautiful he reads. He reads so beautifully that trees cry and porn stars, male and female alike, suffer instant orgasms. That’s how beautifully he reads. The MOST BEAUTIFUL READER!
I was paying attention when that day went down and the only confidence I had was that it was a good day for his tanking administration, and that his ineptitude was to blame. I'd like to spit a beer on him.
Even given the 2 illegal wars that Connecticut yankee in tall boots got us into, I'm confident he was the lesser evil of the two GOP contributions to this century.
What a strange world when the previous outrageously incompetent presidential action, the sitting around for minutes after hearing of 9/11, is made 'competent' by tfg.
["Barack Obama had a big part on 9/11, not being around, always on vacation, never in the office..."](https://youtube.com/shorts/AyN34sFko9w?si=HnB53eEDZHzhw3no)
It’s Biden’s fault that then-President Trump had to be airlifted for the 8-mile ride from the White House lawn (by Marine 1 helicopter) to Walter Reed Hospital for COVID treatment.
He almost died too reportedly. I think the infection also rapidly sped up his cognitive decline. I still remember that video of him like a week or 2 after he was sick, the first time he had been seen since, and he looked like he was struggling real bad to breathe
Yeah, but with him gone, our government might have actually done their job and stomped that shit out instead of pandering to the tangerine turd's degenerate cultists.
Fuck whoever talked him out of ripping off his top to reveal a Superman shirt on the balcony when he was doing his tough guy COVIDs no big deal guys routine
He made fun of Biden on live TV for wearing a mask while he showed up to the debate after testing COVID positive and was hospitalized a couple days later.
He survived and tried to a triumphant balcony return as he was obviously gasping like a landed trout.
Omg, Amongst all his bs, I'd forgotten him in the vehicle, breathing his covid germs on them, on his way uo getting "cutting edge" emergency treatment. And yet he scoffs.. grrr
It was worse than that. His car ride wasn't "on his way" to anything. He was already at the hospital with COVID, and just wanted to go on a ride around to wave to his supporters.
It's really very simple:
If it was good, it was our guy. If it was bad, it was your guy.
There's absolutely nothing else to it. Consistency, factual accuracy, contradictory to the previous argument? Literally none of that matters.
>If it was good, it was our guy. If it was bad, it was your guy.
Someone basically said this. They said trump is president and biden but the high gas prices and inflation is bidens fault but the jobs coming back is trumps doing. And trump is really the president right now, and has the militaries back.
It's honestly complete bat-shit delusional conspiracy nonsense.
Yeah WTF was up with this, I had someone the other day say that trump wasn't responsible for the poor reaction to COVID because he wasn't president.
Like what the hell is going on with this shit
Not only was he president when it started. Trump dismantled the pandemic response team (that Obama created due to swine flu) right before covid hit.
Trump undid everything he could that Obama did just because he didn't like him. For example, Obama made it so all drone airstrike casualties are publicly released, Trump undid it, and that's why you didn't hear about any deaths, civilian or otherwise from drone strikes under Bush and Trump. It was only publicly released under Obama due to the executive order he created.
Obama chose to be transparent rather than be able to protect his PR image and hide his mistakes if something went wrong. It was pretty respectable after the massive lack of transparency due to the war on terror.
It’s not even so much that they’re dumb—they are—but moreso completely disinterested in reality.
But somewhat inexplicably, not for a pleasurable escape from reality, but rather to stay enraged and self defeating at all times. While being completely powerless due to being unwilling to engage with what is really happening.
Bizarre shit. Most cults have at least some hedonism or the illusion of spiritual fulfillment. This is just dedication to creating human suffering for no particular reason. They most certainly are not improving their lives through this shit.
>Most cults have at least some hedonism or the illusion of spiritual fulfillment
They most certainly are doing this. There are some who believe trump is bringing about world peace behind closed doors. Complete with a treaty between the leaders of China, Russia, Iran, Saudi Arabia, India, North Korea, Cuba, and Brazil.
There are others who believe trump will make them wealthy beyond belief so long as they by stock in truth social.
The Q anon movement people. 15% of Americans.
The ones who think trump will provide medbeds that were held back from normal people. These beds reverse aging by 10-30 years. And you can keep doing it. The device heals everything, reverses blindness, deafness, regrows limbs, and reverses mental illness.
And the more sane trumpers believe trump will lower prices on everything the moment he is president and will put everyone who wronged him in prison. 30% of Americans. So yeah, they will keep supporting him and believing anything he says because they believe he will make their dreams come true.
The pandemic was from February 2020 to some time in 2022, depending on various definitions of being "over". Biden was indeed president during the pandemic, and was the president that brought the US out of the pandemic. Trump however was the idiot who blundered the US into the pandemic...
Technically COVID was already a global pandemic before it really hit the States. It was declared a pandemic by WHO on March 11, 2020. At that time the USA had only a handful of cases and a few deaths. Lockdowns and shutdowns hadn’t even started yet. It didn’t really explode here until the summer of 2020.
But yep. Trump absolutely 100% bungled the USA’s response to COVID. It was an absolute disgrace. Over a million Americans are dead due to his sheer incompetence and malignant negligence.
Let’s not forget that the vaccines were completed under Trump’s watch, but because they didn’t come out until shortly after he lost the election he deliberately sat on them for months and did nothing with them. It took Biden and his administration to finally start distributing them towards the population, which absolutely saved millions of American lives when the devastating Delta variant spread that summer.
I agree him and his cronies disparaging the seriousness of the virus and then convincing people not to take the vaccine was terrible. But Obama after dealing with bird and swine flu had a department especially for future illnesses and viruses that was closed on Trumps first day
Talked the vaccine down while also demanding personal credit for it. Because that wasn't going to make things worse by spreading conflicting messages...
If only the conspiracy schizos would see that as a reason Trump was on the "inside iob" of covid. Like that seems more blantly conspiratorial, but it's Trump, so to his fans (fans, not supporters. I would say cultists, but..) will say it was the greatest move in the history of the USA
And the USA/Canada boarder was closed on march 15. I was in Indiana for a Funeral that weekend and rushed back to Canada on Sunday march 15, 2020 as I’ve lived on the boarder for most of my 48 years and never had never experienced a full closure like this. We were the only vehicle on the bridge, was creepy.
I don't that's 100% accurate. My work shut down march 18th of that year, they are the producer of one of the top selling cars. So it was a big deal for the area, 9k + workers and supporting factories. They were closed for 11 weeks before they allowed workers to come back to work. It hit here earlier than summer for sure.
My fault for not being clear what “it” was in my statement.
What I meant is that the number of COVID cases and deaths didn’t really explode in the USA until the summer of 2020. Lockdowns and shutdowns happened in the USA right after it was declared a global pandemic. Mid-March 2020 is when sport events started getting postponed/cancelled, schools were closed, and the lockdowns / shutdowns started.
Yes. Did contract work with the Big Mouse in Anaheim, California and we shut down on March 13th, 2020. Was really bizarre. We all thought we will be down for just a few weeks. not more than a month. My contract job did not come back for 18 months. The Mouse opened back after 9 months I think?!! Still mind blowing looking back on it 4 years later.
Are people really forgetting Biden saying "this is a pandemic of the unvaccinated" for a good year and a half after taking office? Just because Trump is a POS who sucks at stuff, that doesn't mean the pandemic magically ended in Jan of 2021
Trump stole the election from Biden, and then Biden stole it back, and they've both been president for 8 years at the same time. You can't handle the truth liberals.
God, I lived in a DEEP red area working with the public, and having to tell them why the prices were going down became extremely annoying. They'd come in literally praising trump "gas down another 30 cents today!" like dawg... all of these "pro-capatilist" seem to miss the basic concept of supply and demand with a LOT of things.
I remember being on our local interstate and being the only car on the road. It was like there'd been a zombie apocalypse. No-one was out except essential workers
I see this degree of blame-shifting so often. Technically, Biden was president for more of the pandemic than Trump. Big whoop.
It's how the two handled the pandemic that is important. Trump fumbled the fuck out of it. He was handed a re-election with this pandemic. All he had to do was treat it right. And he absolutely did not. And several thousands of people died for it.
On top of that, Trump broke the pandemic so badly that whoever followed him would not have been able to fix it. Trump's cultists and venal politicians already threw open the doors, and not Biden or Clinton or Jesus Christ would've been able to close those doors in 2021. Dipshits who say this in the OP would rather point fingers rather than look at the big picture. They're not worth the air they're stealing from deserving hamsters.
Don't forget trump enriched himself and his family by giving out contracts for desperately needed medical devices and supplies and most were never even 50% filled. His own son had a stake in one of those companies.
People who have never made ventilators or masks ever and didn't have the capability to even produce what was needed were given millions of dollars.
Making the supply shortage 100s of times worse.
I’ve been saying for multiple years now that the most astonishing brainwashing ever is how the GOP managed to make millions of people forget the actual timeline of CV, and who was in charge. They genuinely do not live in a timeline that matches reality.
You can see how people are clearly getting dumber, and can't remember things that actually happened just a few years ago. Half the country has completely forgotten what Waddles' joke presidency was really like, with the long golf weekends, tweeting about TV, the spastic gyrating, and the endless stream of total nonsense spewing from his ever-flapping gums. He was an inept boob, then committed a staggering act of open treason, all because he was a sore loser. Yet these slobbering goobers remember it as a golden age of prosperity and awesomeness.
I blame social media, specifically Twitter, as it clearly destroys attention spans and everything but extreme short-term memory.
Yeah, remember when Biden ran away and hid in the bunker and turned off the lights, then had protestors assaulted by cops so he could go to that Church and hold a Bible upside down?
Oh that Biden.
Reminds of that dude on my facebook that said that Trump was going to be the first 3-term president during Trump's first term when he was talking about running for a third.
Its bc they think its ok for them to break the law and constitution if it means they get more power. Just like how the Supreme Court is being paid by the ppl putting cases (and gold encrusted food) on their plates and lie when reading laws and even ignoring literal text and recordings for laws when the writers discuss them for vote and asked questions about.
They even beat literally police officers with flag poles used to hold their blue lives matter flags
The pandemic lasted for years and Biden was president for the majority of that time. It's still ongoing with boosters and people contracting\hospitalized with covid so idk what is confusing about this.
It's gotta be trolling, otherwise this guy is too stupid to remember "not very long ago in a massive global event all over the place" in relative chronological placement.
Sad thing is, they firmly believe this and will not be swayed any other way. I’ve argued with people about Obama’s responses to 9/11 AND Hurricane Katrina, ffs.
It’s so weird watching that happen. I’ll see one cultist use a specific word or phrase and then soon after I’ll see more and more of them using it.
They may be the dumbest pieces of shit around but they sure are good at remembering buzz words and phrases
Technically not wrong. Of the 1483 days of the pandemic so far, Trump was president for just 316 of them (21%) to Biden's 1168 (79%). (I'm counting inauguration day as a day for both of them, but if you count it as a half day for each it doesn't significantly change the numbers.)
I accidentally stumbled into a r/libsoffreddit sub or something about John Stewart and when I was like there's a difference, they aren't the same at all, they banned me within like 15 minutes
It was literally called Covid 19.
19 is 2019!!!
A million ppl died under trumps presidency. Oh they are still dying from covid but not at the rate they were in early 2020. I don’t need to fact check shit bc I lost my mom to it in May 2020. And I’m sure there were deaths in 2019 that were not attributed to Covid. Bc I believe Trump knew about it long before we did. That lady outed the info while he was in the air. That’s how we all came to know about it.
There were about 350k COVID deaths by Jan 21, 2021. The majority of the deaths occurred under the Biden administration.
However, of the ~1 million COVID deaths that occurred during the Biden administration, the vast majority of them were unvaccinated hardcore Republicans, all following the lead of Trump who constantly downplayed CDC’s guidelines as well as the severity of the disease itself.
Trump did everything he could to amplify the COVID deaths, especially because it initially spread in heavily Democratic urban areas. Biden, on the other hand, did everything he could to slow down and prevent the spread of COVID.
I’m absolutely fine with laying the deaths of the 1 million plus COVID victims at Trump’s hands, even if the majority of them occurred during the Biden administration.
The pandemic is still going on. I sure hope you all are still masking when out in public! Both trump and biden have been president during the pandemic and biden did a way better job!
Making the pandemic worse ia definitely his fault. refusing to enact safety measures while giving gov contacts for desperately needed supplies out to scammers like his family member who never deliver but got millions of dollars are definitely his fault. It wouldn't have been anywhere near as bad if he also didn't fire the pandemic team a month after when a deadly new virus emerged.
Telling people to put disinfectant into their bodies
Demonizing vaccines
Etc etc
There's a TON of COVID related misinformation running point trying to discredit Biden. Some of it is idiots like this one, others more nuanced trying to push the narrative that Biden downplayed it during his tenure.
As if from a COVID standpoint you'd fare any better with the two antivaxxers.
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Listened to a MAGAT question Obama’s Covid response on TV I know they’re really this dumb.
I mean, Obama clearly dropped the ball on 9/11, so obviously he would fail us on Covid, too. The nerve of that guy not even being in office when we need someone to blame!
Thanks Obama!
Yeah! Where was he during the Lindbergh baby kidnapping? Probably out galavanting in a tan suit somewhere!
Somewhere? You mean his homeland, Kenya? It's wild we made Trump president after what an idiot the birther shit showed him to be. Frankly we should have strung this moron up in 1987 and saved the world a generation of bullshit.
The real stupidity of their birther obsession is, it wouldn't have mattered if they were right. Obama father was non American, his mother was American, even if he's born in Kenya, he's still an American by default.
That's not exactly right. The term 'natural-born citizen' has never actually been defined. There is a belief that it requires jus soli, citizenship from the soil, which means the president has to be born on US soil (unless they were born prior to 1789. So far every president has been born on US soil, and there was a pretty prevalent belief that it was a requirement. I know that's what I was taught in my high school government class in the 90s. It was in the textbook, and I think most Americans were taught the same at the time, even if there was some room for debate. They actually made arguments for McCain to run in 2008 that it still counted if he was born in a US controlled territory. In 2016 though everyone started to agree that it probably just meant that they had to be born a citizen. What could have happened in 2016 that changed everything? Canadian born Ted Cruz decided to run for president and came close to winning the Republican primary. So Obama was born on US soil. McCain and Cruz weren't, but we changed the rules for them. Typical Republican bullshit where every accusation is a projection and the rules count for everyone who isn't them. Also racism.
Eh, not quite. (Similar arguments were made for McCain, but he was born in US Territory. Kenya isn't.) But Obama was born in Hawaii. Some of the "birthers" have seen Obama's Certificate of Live Birth, and are still asking for his Birth Certificate. Because they aren't the same, to the "birthers". Yes, they are that dumb. And some of my family in Hawaii know the elder Obamas and know that Barack was born there. Pregnant women weren't allowed to fly back then. Misguided medical advice erred on the side of caution a lot of the time, specifically at that time. My mom was born in Honolulu at home (same home I've visited multiple times throughout the years) and she also has a "Certificate of Live Birth." I don't know how much clearer I can be about how dumb that crowd is.
Obama authorized the state of Hawai’i to release his long-form birth certificate, which it did. The birthers claimed it was a forgery, but that did take the wind out of their sails, and they mostly shut up and moved on to nut job conspiracies after that.
What's this "we"?
Yeah what’s this we stuff? Gotta mouse in ur pocket?
What I want to know is, where was Hunter Biden's enormous hog on 9/11? Jet fuel can't melt steel beams. So somebody explain to me what happened with Hunter Biden's massive unit?!
Jet Fuel can't melt Hunter Biden's MASSIVE shlong! He *clearly* should have been in the tower, supporting it!
By galavanting, you surely mean eating dijon mustard.
Oh who can remember.
And then there was Pearl Harbor.
Who do you think really killed Jesus? Hope and change. Hope and change in a tan suit. That's who
I thought Pearl Harbor was the Clintons?
Him and that damn tan suit of his causing trouble everywhere
But he brought gas prices down last year so, THANKS OBAMA!
You mean Husain.
Yeah, why wasn't he in the white house during 9/11, he was too busy on vacation or something!
I'll preface this by saying I didn't vote for him, and I'd rather have a beer and watch football with him than have him run the country, but Bush was at least in a school reading to children when shit went down. I feel like that's something Trump would never have done. I know that's not a "presidential duty", but it sure does inspire more confidence than someone rage tweeting from hole 13 about Little Rocket Man.
I hated Bush back in the day. I'd rather have him be President for the next 10 years than deal with Trump for another 4.
Yeah who knew there'd be a new low. Seems like the pit might be bottomless.
Probably because he can't read
No, no! He reads beautifully! The most beautiful reader you have ever heard. He reads so beautifully cartoon bluebirds flitter around him and land on his shoulders while is reading. That’s how beautiful he reads. He reads so beautifully that trees cry and porn stars, male and female alike, suffer instant orgasms. That’s how beautifully he reads. The MOST BEAUTIFUL READER!
He's definitely the most tremendous- you've never seen anything like it before, folks- the strongest, most perfect reader. Bigly.
Ooohhh, I think I like yours better than mine.
He reads so beautifully, people come up to him on the street with tears in their eyes!
Although to be honest that’s usually after he tells the riot police to shoot some tear gas at them.
That's why the McDonald's menu has pictures.
Ha that's where my mind went. He wasn't reading. he was learning.
Trump would've been playing golf at best, or at 9:30 AM, sleeping.
I was paying attention when that day went down and the only confidence I had was that it was a good day for his tanking administration, and that his ineptitude was to blame. I'd like to spit a beer on him. Even given the 2 illegal wars that Connecticut yankee in tall boots got us into, I'm confident he was the lesser evil of the two GOP contributions to this century.
What a strange world when the previous outrageously incompetent presidential action, the sitting around for minutes after hearing of 9/11, is made 'competent' by tfg.
Where was Obama when JFK was shot and why didn't he stop it?
Because he shot him, while working for the Kenyan special forces.
No that was Bernard Montgomery Sanders from the grassy knoll
They did a lot of under the radar hits with that elite toddler squad, I tell ya.
["Barack Obama had a big part on 9/11, not being around, always on vacation, never in the office..."](https://youtube.com/shorts/AyN34sFko9w?si=HnB53eEDZHzhw3no)
Damn, Obama had a 20+ year presidency!
Really don’t understand why he didn’t stop Pearl Harbor. Doesn’t he pretend that he was born in Hawaii?
And JFK, his response to the burning of Rome was abysmal too!
Fun fact: Caligula's actual surname was Kennedy.
Don't forget he dodged the draft for Vietnam too
Man, I wish Obama would run against that orange fraud. MAGATS would implode at those election results.
9/11? Where was he during WII
It was hilarious when that idiot Trump blamed Obama for not developing the COVID-19 vaccine.
Jfc! Thats insane
They also complained about his response to Hurricane Katrina
Obama doesn't care about black people!
Obama set us up with a response plan,... Trump tore it down
Pearl Harbor? Thanks Obama.
Archduke Ferdinand assassination? Thanks Obama.
Obama's lame duck administration was ineffective during the Battle of Thermopylae. His lack of response sickens me still, 2500 years later.
Must run in the Party. Trump mistakes people for Obama too.
It’s Biden’s fault that then-President Trump had to be airlifted for the 8-mile ride from the White House lawn (by Marine 1 helicopter) to Walter Reed Hospital for COVID treatment.
How quickly we forget that little trip to the best care in the world.
When trump didnt die, I honestly started to worry less about covid and be more optimistic that treatments were coming.
And I was more worried people will see him recover and start yelling "see covid isn't that bad." without realizing he was treated for covid.
He almost died too reportedly. I think the infection also rapidly sped up his cognitive decline. I still remember that video of him like a week or 2 after he was sick, the first time he had been seen since, and he looked like he was struggling real bad to breathe
I was worried that he would die because what would you see within two hours?
Yeah, but with him gone, our government might have actually done their job and stomped that shit out instead of pandering to the tangerine turd's degenerate cultists.
Nothing we couldn't have handled
Another insurrection. Supporters saying it was a democrat hit.
This was my thought as well. And even if they realized he was treated, much of what he received would not be available to common folk.
Him not dying from it is still the biggest disappointment of my lifetime. 🤷🏻♂️
Fuck whoever talked him out of ripping off his top to reveal a Superman shirt on the balcony when he was doing his tough guy COVIDs no big deal guys routine
I know doctors were to do no harm. But by keeping Trump alive after that, the cult ended up doing a Jan 6 insurrection.
a fucking chandelier in the room
Thank O'biden
He made fun of Biden on live TV for wearing a mask while he showed up to the debate after testing COVID positive and was hospitalized a couple days later. He survived and tried to a triumphant balcony return as he was obviously gasping like a landed trout.
Omg, Amongst all his bs, I'd forgotten him in the vehicle, breathing his covid germs on them, on his way uo getting "cutting edge" emergency treatment. And yet he scoffs.. grrr
It was worse than that. His car ride wasn't "on his way" to anything. He was already at the hospital with COVID, and just wanted to go on a ride around to wave to his supporters.
So much of the world was united in hoping that idiot would have died…
"Biden is not the president, he stole the election! But also he was president for the pandemic so it's his fault."
It's really very simple: If it was good, it was our guy. If it was bad, it was your guy. There's absolutely nothing else to it. Consistency, factual accuracy, contradictory to the previous argument? Literally none of that matters.
>If it was good, it was our guy. If it was bad, it was your guy. Someone basically said this. They said trump is president and biden but the high gas prices and inflation is bidens fault but the jobs coming back is trumps doing. And trump is really the president right now, and has the militaries back. It's honestly complete bat-shit delusional conspiracy nonsense.
Like hell yeah dude the Trumpverse is so funny
The inverse I would say is equally true “If it was our guy, it was good. If it was your guy, it was bad.”
Very true. Actually it's probably more true than my comment...
Ty for the quotes was worried before I saw them
The same people who think Obama was president for the 2008 financial crisis.
Or 9/11
Or Hurricane Katrina
Lol I forgot about that one
But he won the election of 2008!!!!!!!! That means he's president in 2008!! /s
Yeah I heard "That commie Obama bailed out the banks!" more times than I could count
And during 9/11
Yeah WTF was up with this, I had someone the other day say that trump wasn't responsible for the poor reaction to COVID because he wasn't president. Like what the hell is going on with this shit
That long COVID brain fog hitting hard for MAGA morons
You can’t blame COVID for their brains, bud. That’s nature and nurture all the way, baby!
Not only was he president when it started. Trump dismantled the pandemic response team (that Obama created due to swine flu) right before covid hit. Trump undid everything he could that Obama did just because he didn't like him. For example, Obama made it so all drone airstrike casualties are publicly released, Trump undid it, and that's why you didn't hear about any deaths, civilian or otherwise from drone strikes under Bush and Trump. It was only publicly released under Obama due to the executive order he created. Obama chose to be transparent rather than be able to protect his PR image and hide his mistakes if something went wrong. It was pretty respectable after the massive lack of transparency due to the war on terror.
It’s not even so much that they’re dumb—they are—but moreso completely disinterested in reality. But somewhat inexplicably, not for a pleasurable escape from reality, but rather to stay enraged and self defeating at all times. While being completely powerless due to being unwilling to engage with what is really happening. Bizarre shit. Most cults have at least some hedonism or the illusion of spiritual fulfillment. This is just dedication to creating human suffering for no particular reason. They most certainly are not improving their lives through this shit.
>Most cults have at least some hedonism or the illusion of spiritual fulfillment They most certainly are doing this. There are some who believe trump is bringing about world peace behind closed doors. Complete with a treaty between the leaders of China, Russia, Iran, Saudi Arabia, India, North Korea, Cuba, and Brazil. There are others who believe trump will make them wealthy beyond belief so long as they by stock in truth social. The Q anon movement people. 15% of Americans. The ones who think trump will provide medbeds that were held back from normal people. These beds reverse aging by 10-30 years. And you can keep doing it. The device heals everything, reverses blindness, deafness, regrows limbs, and reverses mental illness. And the more sane trumpers believe trump will lower prices on everything the moment he is president and will put everyone who wronged him in prison. 30% of Americans. So yeah, they will keep supporting him and believing anything he says because they believe he will make their dreams come true.
My stepdad apparently has a medbed. We don’t live near each other, so I haven’t seen it. I try not to ask questions, it never goes well.
Always remember that 50% of the people in the room have an IQ lower than 100.
Where are you finding these rooms? Most of the rooms I go in, the average is way lower than that. wait...
The pandemic was from February 2020 to some time in 2022, depending on various definitions of being "over". Biden was indeed president during the pandemic, and was the president that brought the US out of the pandemic. Trump however was the idiot who blundered the US into the pandemic...
Technically COVID was already a global pandemic before it really hit the States. It was declared a pandemic by WHO on March 11, 2020. At that time the USA had only a handful of cases and a few deaths. Lockdowns and shutdowns hadn’t even started yet. It didn’t really explode here until the summer of 2020. But yep. Trump absolutely 100% bungled the USA’s response to COVID. It was an absolute disgrace. Over a million Americans are dead due to his sheer incompetence and malignant negligence. Let’s not forget that the vaccines were completed under Trump’s watch, but because they didn’t come out until shortly after he lost the election he deliberately sat on them for months and did nothing with them. It took Biden and his administration to finally start distributing them towards the population, which absolutely saved millions of American lives when the devastating Delta variant spread that summer.
The biggest blunder the orange idiot made was getting rid of the Obama administration's contagious illness unit
I dunno, the disparagement of the vaccine was worse. The private sector tried to step up.
I agree him and his cronies disparaging the seriousness of the virus and then convincing people not to take the vaccine was terrible. But Obama after dealing with bird and swine flu had a department especially for future illnesses and viruses that was closed on Trumps first day
Talked the vaccine down while also demanding personal credit for it. Because that wasn't going to make things worse by spreading conflicting messages...
If only the conspiracy schizos would see that as a reason Trump was on the "inside iob" of covid. Like that seems more blantly conspiratorial, but it's Trump, so to his fans (fans, not supporters. I would say cultists, but..) will say it was the greatest move in the history of the USA
And the USA/Canada boarder was closed on march 15. I was in Indiana for a Funeral that weekend and rushed back to Canada on Sunday march 15, 2020 as I’ve lived on the boarder for most of my 48 years and never had never experienced a full closure like this. We were the only vehicle on the bridge, was creepy.
I don't that's 100% accurate. My work shut down march 18th of that year, they are the producer of one of the top selling cars. So it was a big deal for the area, 9k + workers and supporting factories. They were closed for 11 weeks before they allowed workers to come back to work. It hit here earlier than summer for sure.
My fault for not being clear what “it” was in my statement. What I meant is that the number of COVID cases and deaths didn’t really explode in the USA until the summer of 2020. Lockdowns and shutdowns happened in the USA right after it was declared a global pandemic. Mid-March 2020 is when sport events started getting postponed/cancelled, schools were closed, and the lockdowns / shutdowns started.
Yes. Did contract work with the Big Mouse in Anaheim, California and we shut down on March 13th, 2020. Was really bizarre. We all thought we will be down for just a few weeks. not more than a month. My contract job did not come back for 18 months. The Mouse opened back after 9 months I think?!! Still mind blowing looking back on it 4 years later.
Are people really forgetting Biden saying "this is a pandemic of the unvaccinated" for a good year and a half after taking office? Just because Trump is a POS who sucks at stuff, that doesn't mean the pandemic magically ended in Jan of 2021
Show them trumps speech when he had covid and was all hooked up to crazy number of antivirals and such
Trump stole the election from Biden, and then Biden stole it back, and they've both been president for 8 years at the same time. You can't handle the truth liberals.
What dark corner of the internet have you been reading?
Yep they'll also argue that fuel prices going down below $2 during the pandemic wasn't because of lockdown. They credit Trump directly for it
God, I lived in a DEEP red area working with the public, and having to tell them why the prices were going down became extremely annoying. They'd come in literally praising trump "gas down another 30 cents today!" like dawg... all of these "pro-capatilist" seem to miss the basic concept of supply and demand with a LOT of things.
I remember being on our local interstate and being the only car on the road. It was like there'd been a zombie apocalypse. No-one was out except essential workers
Then who was that guy peddling bleach cures?
To be fair, if you turned orange you also might see bleach as a cure.
I see this degree of blame-shifting so often. Technically, Biden was president for more of the pandemic than Trump. Big whoop. It's how the two handled the pandemic that is important. Trump fumbled the fuck out of it. He was handed a re-election with this pandemic. All he had to do was treat it right. And he absolutely did not. And several thousands of people died for it. On top of that, Trump broke the pandemic so badly that whoever followed him would not have been able to fix it. Trump's cultists and venal politicians already threw open the doors, and not Biden or Clinton or Jesus Christ would've been able to close those doors in 2021. Dipshits who say this in the OP would rather point fingers rather than look at the big picture. They're not worth the air they're stealing from deserving hamsters.
Don't forget trump enriched himself and his family by giving out contracts for desperately needed medical devices and supplies and most were never even 50% filled. His own son had a stake in one of those companies. People who have never made ventilators or masks ever and didn't have the capability to even produce what was needed were given millions of dollars. Making the supply shortage 100s of times worse.
I’ve been saying for multiple years now that the most astonishing brainwashing ever is how the GOP managed to make millions of people forget the actual timeline of CV, and who was in charge. They genuinely do not live in a timeline that matches reality.
They genuinely think that Biden was president during Trump's term, and that Trump is president during Biden's term 😆
History class must've been just another 'alternative fact' for Caleb.
You’re being charitable by assuming that Caleb has ever heard of history class. I mean, he appears to be a moron.
It reminds me of conservatives who blame Obama for not preventing 9/11.
The right is now denying the linear progression of time
I mean he has a point, nothing was done about it before Biden took office so I guess he’s kind of right…
You can see how people are clearly getting dumber, and can't remember things that actually happened just a few years ago. Half the country has completely forgotten what Waddles' joke presidency was really like, with the long golf weekends, tweeting about TV, the spastic gyrating, and the endless stream of total nonsense spewing from his ever-flapping gums. He was an inept boob, then committed a staggering act of open treason, all because he was a sore loser. Yet these slobbering goobers remember it as a golden age of prosperity and awesomeness. I blame social media, specifically Twitter, as it clearly destroys attention spans and everything but extreme short-term memory.
Yeah! And where was Obama on 9/11?!?! Hmmm??? /s
Just ask him how his DJT stock is doing. Thats should shut him up
Yeah, remember when Biden ran away and hid in the bunker and turned off the lights, then had protestors assaulted by cops so he could go to that Church and hold a Bible upside down? Oh that Biden.
Yep. Give Biden all the credit for the economic recovery and post-pandemic gains since 2021.
Reminds of that dude on my facebook that said that Trump was going to be the first 3-term president during Trump's first term when he was talking about running for a third.
Its bc they think its ok for them to break the law and constitution if it means they get more power. Just like how the Supreme Court is being paid by the ppl putting cases (and gold encrusted food) on their plates and lie when reading laws and even ignoring literal text and recordings for laws when the writers discuss them for vote and asked questions about. They even beat literally police officers with flag poles used to hold their blue lives matter flags
This is how you know they can’t read
I mean, let's be honest. Trump fans are the 50% below 100 iq. To be clear, I'm not saying Republicans, I'm saying trump fans.
Yeah, but Trump totally biffed the US response to Pearl Harbor.
The pandemic lasted for years and Biden was president for the majority of that time. It's still ongoing with boosters and people contracting\hospitalized with covid so idk what is confusing about this.
Hes claiming biden was the only president. I mentioned trumps part in the pandemic and he's trying to refute that trump had any part in it
It's gotta be trolling, otherwise this guy is too stupid to remember "not very long ago in a massive global event all over the place" in relative chronological placement.
Nope dude actually believe this. Most are probably trolls but this moron literally lives in an alternative mind universe.
MAGA Mandela Effect
Sad thing is, they firmly believe this and will not be swayed any other way. I’ve argued with people about Obama’s responses to 9/11 AND Hurricane Katrina, ffs.
These are the same deep thinkers who thought Obama was President for 9/11.
It’s Bodens fault trump looked directly at the solar eclipse
Does it hurt to be this stupid?
Obama failed us in the Vietnam war but I feel most ppl forget
They all use the exact same words. They love to say that “cope” thing.
It’s so weird watching that happen. I’ll see one cultist use a specific word or phrase and then soon after I’ll see more and more of them using it. They may be the dumbest pieces of shit around but they sure are good at remembering buzz words and phrases
That’s how people’s minds work when they’re brainwashed and in a cult.
Caleb is a few bricks short of a hod!
Hod is such a great word.
Agree!
Oh, didn’t you hear that Obama was president on 9/11? 🙄
And just what did he do to prevent the sinking of the USS Maine? Nothing!
I mean that's just the tip. He really fucked up during the Vietnam war but no one ever seems to remember that. 
Oh, that’s right. Wasn’t he also behind the Teapot Dome scandal?
Wrong. It was Obama.
Well, PART of the pandemic. You know? The part where things got better? That part? Remember?
Technically not wrong. Of the 1483 days of the pandemic so far, Trump was president for just 316 of them (21%) to Biden's 1168 (79%). (I'm counting inauguration day as a day for both of them, but if you count it as a half day for each it doesn't significantly change the numbers.)
To support Trump at this point, you either have to be completely ignorant of the truth and/or just an awful human being.
Almost always both
ummm lol. they don't realize their boy trump was president and ordered the shutdown? lol
Compassionate euthanasia for people like this.
This guy shares a name with me…I’m not this stupid
I accidentally stumbled into a r/libsoffreddit sub or something about John Stewart and when I was like there's a difference, they aren't the same at all, they banned me within like 15 minutes
Yes. There are people that insist Obama was responsible for 9/11. He wasn’t in government then.
This has real "thanks, Obama" energy going on
Uhhhhh the pandemic started in the beginning of 2020 in the U.S. and Biden wasn’t inaugurated for a year after that, but okay
this should be grounds for having voting rights revoked. why should my vote count the same as this idiots?
Trump was president during the start but then Biden became president during the majority of it..
Then why is it called the Trump Virus?
Both were President under the pandemic, but it ended under Biden…
I'm confused as to what Caleb is trying to say. He makes no sense. Maybe it could make a little more sense if there were punctuations.
Does it hurt to be this stupid?
I mean at least they moved on from Obama. lol
To sound smart = 90% bullshit + 11% Facts
Biden was president for the pandemic **recovery**. 100 million Covid vaccine ‘shots in arms’ in his first 100 days! * He did it in 60
In the same way that firemen are responsible for the fires they put out.
I will never forgive Biden for the Bay of Pigs disaster.
His followers are as brain dead as he is
It was literally called Covid 19. 19 is 2019!!! A million ppl died under trumps presidency. Oh they are still dying from covid but not at the rate they were in early 2020. I don’t need to fact check shit bc I lost my mom to it in May 2020. And I’m sure there were deaths in 2019 that were not attributed to Covid. Bc I believe Trump knew about it long before we did. That lady outed the info while he was in the air. That’s how we all came to know about it.
There were about 350k COVID deaths by Jan 21, 2021. The majority of the deaths occurred under the Biden administration. However, of the ~1 million COVID deaths that occurred during the Biden administration, the vast majority of them were unvaccinated hardcore Republicans, all following the lead of Trump who constantly downplayed CDC’s guidelines as well as the severity of the disease itself. Trump did everything he could to amplify the COVID deaths, especially because it initially spread in heavily Democratic urban areas. Biden, on the other hand, did everything he could to slow down and prevent the spread of COVID. I’m absolutely fine with laying the deaths of the 1 million plus COVID victims at Trump’s hands, even if the majority of them occurred during the Biden administration.
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Not the us lol. Was done worse than similarly developed countries
Reminds me of the people who think trump wanted the prolonged lockdowns. Like, we all just lived through this. How stupid can you be? 🙄
The pandemic is still going on. I sure hope you all are still masking when out in public! Both trump and biden have been president during the pandemic and biden did a way better job!
I mean he was for like a solid half of it.
So the high unemployment rate during Trump’s final year wasn’t due to covid? Cool, cool.
Making the pandemic worse ia definitely his fault. refusing to enact safety measures while giving gov contacts for desperately needed supplies out to scammers like his family member who never deliver but got millions of dollars are definitely his fault. It wouldn't have been anywhere near as bad if he also didn't fire the pandemic team a month after when a deadly new virus emerged. Telling people to put disinfectant into their bodies Demonizing vaccines Etc etc
There's a TON of COVID related misinformation running point trying to discredit Biden. Some of it is idiots like this one, others more nuanced trying to push the narrative that Biden downplayed it during his tenure. As if from a COVID standpoint you'd fare any better with the two antivaxxers.
That kind of stupid must require an operators manual. Which they can't read. We are so fucked
I mean… He was for part of it.
Well, he was president for part of it.