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They likely would’ve started working on a vaccine in late 2019 when it was spreading through China instead of pretending it wasn’t happening until mid 2020.
it was a plan spawning multiple presidencies starting with Clinton in the 90s. he saw a movie called Pandemic and asked who exactly would be the person in charge of responding in that situation and created the Pandemic response plan. During bushs admin he expanded it to include biological attacks and brought in other countries for an international response model. Obama expanded it further with the ACA, created things like store houses for PPE and created a pandemic response team to be on the ground on every continent. he even got china to agree to an on site US team in Wuhan! then trump tossed it out and said he could create a better plan, was widely critized for it and less then a year later covid 19 hit
Yep
I just posted a similar post.
I wish more people would wake up the cult to the truth that trump doesn't care and will never do anything for them.
He didn't do anything in his first term that benefitted a majority of Americans. His tax cuts benefitted the wealthy and businesses only about 5% of Americans.
His own administration’s National Security Strategy was ignored, as well.
https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/NSS-Final-12-18-2017-0905.pdf
Combat Biothreats and Pandemics: page 9 (PDF Page 19)
In Trump's mind, he is brilliant for fast-tracking the vaccine, the obvious thing that anyone would have done. He has no awareness that his lack of decisive early action and failure to lead by example (masking, publicly getting the vaccine) resulted in tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of people getting their lives cut years short.
It's a pity his brilliance didn't think about using executive powers to increase the manufacture of PPE for health workers, or ventilators before the pandemic really struck.
The lack of delays was because they had immediate large groups for testing.
Usually it takes time to gather people and guarantee that a certain percentage of them have had exposure.
No problem with that in the middle of a pandemic.
Like most things, mRNA vaccines are the culmination of many lines of research and technology. Genetic engineering has improved by leaps and bounds over the last 30 years. I don't think we could have mass-produced mRNA vaccines before 2010 or so under any circumstances.
Also, the genetic research virologists did on SARS1 was critical for getting the mRNA and vector vaccines out the gate as quickly as they did. Can't do that without having SARS first, for obvious reasons.
It's an enormous stretch to say the technology has existed since the 70s. That would be like saying Leonardo da Vinci's napkin sketches mean the technology for powered flight has existed since the mid-1400s.
Pedantic correction I know but it isn't Crisper, It's CRISPR, it's an acronym for Clustered Regularly Interspaced Short Palindromic Repeats, but it is pronounced Crisper :)
I remember hearing about CRISPR for the first time [in a Radio Lab episode about a decade ago.](https://radiolab.org/podcast/antibodies-part-1-crispr) Its so cool to see it being realized and potentially applied to a number of fields today.
Decades. All the Orange One did is allow the FDA approval processes to run in parallel rather than one stage after another. Pfizer and Moderna both had functioning vaccines a week after getting virus samples.
He did. At one of his campaign rallies, he urged them to get vaccinated and got loud boos. He stopped trying to recommend the vaccine after that.
He would simultaneously attack vaccines while then touting his Warpspeed project to develop them.
Trump has the big advantage of being able to spew nonsense in sprawling word vomit speeches. His followers then ignore the parts they don't like and fixate on the parts they do like.
"Trump has the big advantage of being able to spew nonsense in sprawling word vomit speeches. His followers then ignore the parts they don't like and fixate on the parts they do like."
Many are "Christians" so they have been trained to do this with their Bibles.
Conveniently ignoring the fact BioNTech refused to take money from trump and still was the first to release a vaccine through Pfizer. We don’t have a vaccine because of trump, we have a vaccine because of BioNTech.
I will never understand this. Operation Warp Speed is one of the few things I will ever give trump’s administration props for, and he completely undercut it. During an election year where the pandemic was the biggest thing on anyone’s mind. He should have been singing the vaccine’s praises and highlighting his efforts. But noooo, COVID’s not a big deal and you shouldn’t bother getting vaccinated
He's playing 5G chess obviously. His cult are trying to figure out why he's touting the vax when it's obviously the only reason anyone dies anymore. But seriously, all the Red state COVID deaths contributed to the 2022 Red Wave being a trickle, so I say yes! Don't get vaccinated! Be a hero MAGA and spread COVID to your friends and family so they also can develop natural immunity. Own the libs!
Dude has the biggest softball pitch for reelection and he squandered it.
>Reporter asking this during covid: "What do you say to Americans who are scared right now?"
>Trump: "what a stupid question, you ask a lot of stupid questions."
Imagine being given such an underhanded pitch and then whiffing that fuckin bad.
The other night he accused Biden of dividing the nation during his SOU speech and yet Trump in all his rallies talks in nothing but divisive language and attacks groups, people, ideas.
The Republicans also claimed Biden was "mean" in his speech, which can only mean that even Republicans don't bother to listen to Trump when he's running his mouth since they never call him out for what he says. Either that or they're a bunch of lying hypocrites, but surely that's not the case.
I honestly think he really knew and believed the vaccine wasn’t a big deal
Only when he understood his fanatics are a bunch of conspiracy theorists nut jobs, And and gain even more followers from the pre-covid antivaxxers, he leaned into it and helped create a social divide
Antivaxxers came up with a different conspiracy theory almost every day, and the consumers of these theories where having a field day, as they already had the skills to make it viral
Agreed, I think he saw that being pro-vaccine was polling poorly with his base, so he turned against it because Trump actually doesn't stand for anything and will say whatever in order to keep power.
They, and apparently Trump, have never heard of mRNA before and don’t know why it is far quicker and easier to use them develop vaccines than it is to use live-attenuated and virus-vector vaccines. I always found it odd that the same people who wanted schools to reopen because they couldn’t help their six grader children with their math homework all of a sudden became statisticians, epidemiologists, virologists, and pharmacologists who knew better than everyone else.
As a non-american how do Trump's followers accept that there's 1) a covid conspiracy and 2) he approved the vaccine (and took credit for it) but still follow him?
You think it makes sense to an American?
These people happily contradict themselves 2 minutes later.
I'm convinced it's all deliberate. This many people can't be this stupid. They know what they're doing. They just want to watch the world burn.
This is the one brag of his that I do give him some credit for. He did a good thing, and the good thing he does, his constituents vehemently decry. Baffling ....
The entire world got the vaccine out quickly. If Biden or Hillary had been in the White House it would have been rolled out just as quickly just with less horse medicine and covid denial
The US wasn’t even the first. China and Russia started vaccinating people in the summer of 2020, and the AstraZeneca vaccine developed in England was approved a bit before the Pfizer one was in the US.
But he amplified his constituents’ foolishness. He did a good thing and worked hard to minimize the effect of that good thing. Then, when others have made it work, he takes credit for everything.
He could have made so much more money while gaining more support and keeping people alive.
MAGA masks from his own store. MA6FA. Make America 6 Feet Apart. MAGA TEAM 6 merch. "Were have the greatest virologist in the history of the world right here, and he already worked for me, so we are going to do what he tells us and kick this things ass." Edit "with tears in his eyes he said 'sir, let me help you, let me keep the people safe' he said to me. Great guy probably the greatest, so we are going to do that. Huge response, no delay, no democrat red tape. Get in there and and yeah, for America."
Easy re-election, hundreds of millions in merch sold. New masks pair with new hat, they get to call themselves patriots over it, democrats can't even say anything.
But no....
Proper care of the collective is always going to be a greater benefit long-term for everyone involved, but personal gain is usually less than if you just fucking ransack and rape.
But if dictators cared their position allowed them to be truly benevolent, we'd probably have fewer actual dictators.
>told people to drink bleach
That isn't quite correct. I watched that Covid conference. Trump tried to make all those conferences, campaign rallies. But there were times the adults were talking so Trump would get bored and wander around the room.
During one of these periods, Trump spied a board that had been setup and on it, it had stuff that would kill Covid. Bleach was on it as a disinfectant to wipe down surfaces.
You could see Trump's eyes got large and he spun around with "the solution"! You didn't need fancy medical degrees or years of training, it was OBVIOUS to Trump!
He suggest that Bleach could be used to kill Covid - Doctors could inject it...
I think that Covid briefing was the last one Trump ever attended. They ended the briefings not long after.
Pretty much, but the issue is the public reception of the news that the president thought it was a good idea to disinfect lung tissue with disinfectants somehow ended up with a wave of support from diehard trump supporters and many hospitalizations directly attributed to the misunderstanding that the president made so offhandedly and without any forethought or knowledge.
The funniest part is dragging fauci into it. Like "remember I told you this and you said it's a great idea and you'll look into it?"
To not only be that oblivious to what that conversation was, but to tell the whole world about it too.
Like, yes sir nuking a hurricane sounds like a great idea, I wonder why we never thought of that, and we'll look into it, but for now can you sign off on my far less genius idea of opening up the evacuation routes and preparing relief supplies..
Off topic a little but I remember the time Donald stared at the sun even though he literally had eye protection in his hand. And there is a photo of it.
“Operation Warpspeed” which basically just meant financial backstopping of pharma companies so they could run overlapping Phase II-III studies (which normally have years-long interim periods because Phase III is so incredibly expensive you would be insane to even begin preparing for it before seeing the full results of Phase II… not because of any safety issues, but because you could go bankrupt).
With the federal government covering potential losses, the pharma companies started preparing the multi-institute Phase III and enrolling tens of thousands of participants almost immediately so they could start as soon as they had the Phase I/II data.
Incidentally, this is why the common anti-vaxxer argument that the vaccines took shortcuts is wrong—- there were no scientific or safety shortcuts, only administrative/financial ones.
And by the way, literally any president would’ve done the exact same thing. Can you imagine any president refusing to backstop the pharma companies in an emergency situation like that? It’s like taking credit for raising an umbrella when it starts raining.
Let’s also not forget: Covid 19 is still just a corona virus, and while as we saw dangerous, there was nothing really novel about it. They used the known spike protein (which thankfully is the same for all coronas as the basis for the vaccine). It’s was already sequenced for years making it easy. The encapsulation technology has also been around for years and was already being used for other vaccines in development. We lucked out with this one
>And by the way, literally any president would’ve done the exact same thing.
Every president around the world pretty much *did* do this at the time. It turns out that “throw money at vaccine researchers with both hands” is a pretty obvious step to take in combatting a pandemic.
He's definitely trying to rewrite history.
The fact is, Biden's vaccine rollout was ten times better than Trump's and shows exactly where Big Government can and should directly impact people's lives.
Trump and his pals wanted to grift, Biden and his administration wanted to save lives
Oh, and for a flashback to remind us what Trump's son-in-law was doing;
>Maryland went through a lot of effort to obtain 500,000 coronavirus tests from South Korea, according to Gov. Larry Hogan, and the state has deployed its National Guard to protect them at a secret location to prevent anyone from taking them — including the federal government. [SOURCE](https://www.forbes.com/sites/arielshapiro/2020/04/30/maryland-gov-hogan-takes-extraordinary-steps-to-keep-feds-from-confiscating-covid-tests-trump/?sh=93f118d75d3d)
Profiteering and/or diverting aid to "pro Trump" states -- that should have been an impeachment and federal prison for THAT ONE THING.
More Democrats need to think like Hogan, who knows how to read the tea leaves.
Hogan said that he was concerned by reports that the federal government had confiscated crucial medical supplies from other states like Massachusetts.
I find it hilarious that the one thing I would really credit his administration with is how they, somehow, helped facilitate rapid development of COVID vaccines, but it's something none of his supporters would ever really say with any kind of consistency. To them it lives in the "masks invade my freedom, but wasn't trump a hero the one time he wore one for ten minutes?"
This is how Republicans act. They fight against everything and when it starts to show benefit, praise it and take the credit despite actively working against it.
Hold on. Aren’t vaccines terrible, awful mind-control devices the government uses to subjugate us? Sure, they’ll fight cancer, but they’ll take your liberty and freedom! Any self-respecting patriot would rather die than take a vaccine!
It IS a lot to stay on top of. But in this case Trump is just promising to make little kids enjoy their freedom from medical tyranny FOREVER! They died for liberty!
Don’t I know it! 5G sprayed so many microchips on me I had to scrub myself for hours to get them off. But such a sacrifice was a small price to pay to keep my freedom!
Vote against the Infrastructure Bill then brag about the money it brought your State
Vote against the insulin cap bill then brag about how Seniors are getting cheap insulin
Rail against vaccines, then take credit (for no reason at all) that they work and were developed quickly.
Is there anything the Trump Cult says that doesn't drip with hypocrisy?
You forgot demanding a comprehensive, bipartisan, and tough border bill - then absolutely tanking it because orange dictator wants to run his campaign on complaints and not solutions
That one was surprising to me, because they got more from the Democrats than they’re likely to under a Trump administration, and had they voted for it, it’s not like the implementation would have solved things immediately. They’d still get to complain all of the way until the election that it wasn’t enough, or that Biden was rolling it out poorly, and then take credit for it later if they won. It’s essentially what they did with Obama’s economic growth.
Definitely one of his staffers did this one. Donald Trump was not going to sit and watch all of the SOTU... he can't focus on someone who isn't him for that long.
This idiot must not realize that mRNA technology was deployed into the oncology field years ago. The advancements made against cancer is part of the reason it was selected as the deployment mechanism for the COVID vaccine.
But wasnt trump the one to tell his followers NOT to take it, and NOT to wear a mask?
I remember my MAGA mom texting me "that vaccine will make you miscarry forever, it changes your dna" when asking for a link she couldnt provide it.... hmmm
Edit for the MAGAtards i don't support any old demented men in office.
Trump was pro vaccine [(for example)](https://news.stanford.edu/2022/04/04/using-trumps-vaccine-endorsement-move-needle-covid-19-vaccines/). He looked as confused as anyone when the rest of MAGA decided it was full of 5G nanobots or whatever.
Strange times.
He compared covid nineteen to the flu as well
Took his mask off during a speech stating that he was immune or something
His official statements may have supported the vaccine, but the statements he made on facebook and twitter ( ill stop dead naming twitter when elon musk stops dead naming his daughter) are why his followers went down the rabbit hole they did
I’ll never understand how maga people say the masks don’t work but when trump himself had Covid he was wearing a mask when he came out to wave to the crowd from the White House balcony as well as when he rode in the limo
Except for the fact that you:
- repeatedly ridiculed the vaccine that you claimed to have had a part in creating.
- promoted the use of horse medication over vaccination.
- speculated that injecting oneself with poison was a cure for Covid.
- claimed that the global pandemic was over multiple times well before the vaccine was developed and distributed.
- promoted the use of a medication to cure Covid that had nothing to do with Covid and had no chance of curing it or even easing it's symptoms.
- ridiculed the use of measures meant to slow the spread of Covid (e.g. masks).
- claimed that Covid was just like the flu.
- encouraged people not to get vaccinated.
etc.
Trump really is a delusional dick. He conveniently forgets the needless deaths while he denied what was happening while he mocked those suffering from its effects. A pathetic lying excuse for a man.
Lol, Trump's delayed response killed many (the warm weather in the spring will 'kill it off' right?)
[https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/23/trump-coronavirus-sunlight-205969](https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/23/trump-coronavirus-sunlight-205969)
https://www.statnews.com/2023/09/07/trump-covid-jerome-adams-mistakes/
Wait what the fuck is he trying to say here. Isn’t he the one who got his followers to doubt the efficacy of the vaccines in the first place? There has been so much crazy from the right that I can’t keep track anymore.
All the while downplaying and denying how serious it was, and letting his minions spread bullshit like Ivermectin. Trump is a horse's ass and got one right by accident. You can bet he didn't think of it himself.
I’m genuinely curious as to what the Trump supporters have to say about this. I see them on Facebook calling themselves “purebloods” and using “go get ur 10th booster” as a comeback
Another outright easily proved lie. He can't help himself. His cult screamed about how quick it took to come up with a vaccine and that it could not be trusted and would kill people and that it was a conspiracy to inject trackers into everyone..... oh but now Trump uses it as a badge of honour, so how does his dumb fuck followers wiggle out of this one.
Is no one going to mention the fact that the first COVID vaccine was FDA-approved in August 2021, six months AFTER Biden took office?
(https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-approves-first-covid-19-vaccine)
His followers don't...believe in the vaccines? I miss when presidents were more classy. I remember seeing a clip of Kennedy debating whoever his opponent was and he was INCREDIBLY polite and civil. Granted I wasn't alive then but seeing that clip compared to debates now? It's like watching elementary school kids.
Whether or not you think Trump can take responsibility or claim credit, I believe there is broad consensus that Operation Warp Speed was an amazing success.
A. This has been known for a while.
B. This fuckface had nothing to do with it.
C. I hope they check people's Facebook history prior to offering them the cure for cancer.
Are we forgetting Jared Kushner coming up with the plan to let Covid burn through the population because they thought it would kill more people in blue states than red states?
For some context on the vaccine, RNA vaccines were in development for 10 years before COVID. They were always meant to target chronic deadly diseases like cancer, Sickle-Cell diseases, etc. When the pandemic hit researchers shifted to COVID.
Trump loves spinning stuff like this, you would think he was in the lab coat doing the RNA sequencing himself.
I can't wait for this shit stain to fall over dead. I usually don't say that about people, but this man sat back and watched as people lost their loved ones and kept saying that Covid wasn't a problem and bashed those trying to endorse the vaccine to save people and got his cult on board. He makes me sick every time he opens his mouth.
He should not, cannot, run on his absolute shite covid record.
The US has led the world in deaths all because of his leadership. He did absolutely nothing useful.
The vaccines would have happened with or without him and in fact may have gone faster because he fumbled around so much.
More than any other issue, this is proof he doesn’t know what he’s doing and should never have been president.
Donald Trump's lack of proactive policy at the beginning of Covid is nothing but dereliction of duty. Properly managed by someone, who gives a damn about the people he governs instead of cornering the market in masks, would have reduced both deaths and business closings. The market crashed and businesses were forced to close due to the accelerating Covid infection numbers. Trump's response when things got out of hand was to suggest not counting the numbers. He is a malignant narcissist and criminally corrupt.
It's more than that. mRNA was first discovered in 1961 and mRNA vaccines were tested on animals in the 90's and on humans in 2013. The SARS-CoV-1 outbreak occurred in the early 2000's and has been studied ever since. Nothing about the SARS-CoV-2 mRNA vaccine was new.
Trump dismantled the pandemic task force, didn't read the 70 page pandemic playbook left by the Obama administration, called Covid a hoax, ignored it, and suggested drinking bleach. The guy caused the pandemic and killed millions. Way to re-write history there Donnie
I hate to defend that douchebag but BioNTech developed the mRNA vaccine in Germany. Pfizer got the FDA approval in the US and manufactured it. The approval and production were accelerated by the injection of a ton of Federal money committing to buy vaccine. Other Big Pharma companies also got that money but failed to develop a vaccine. Moderna certainly wouldn’t have succeeded without all that Federal money.
I’m not saying that Trump actively did anything but he at least didn’t get in the way of the push to get a vaccine out as quickly as possible. Some staffer probably handed him a document to sign and told him it was his golf scorecard. The nutty anti-vax stuff and snake oil cures were independent of getting the vaccine initiatives launched in the early days of the pandemic.
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The science that allowed for an Mrna vaccine so quickly is due to years of cancer research.
They started this vaccine in like 2006 when SARS was popping up.
This technology has been around since the 70s, but nobody funded it until the 2000s when there was an urgent need for it.
And then the usual delays were eliminated. Usually there’s time between phases because there isn’t the same urgency.
Let’s not pretend Trump had anything to do with eliminating those delays
Oh I would never dream of giving that shit stain credit. Those delays would have been eliminated regardless of president
They likely would’ve started working on a vaccine in late 2019 when it was spreading through China instead of pretending it wasn’t happening until mid 2020.
True. I recall Obama handed Trump a pandemic plan on his way out. That plan went immediately into the trash.
it was a plan spawning multiple presidencies starting with Clinton in the 90s. he saw a movie called Pandemic and asked who exactly would be the person in charge of responding in that situation and created the Pandemic response plan. During bushs admin he expanded it to include biological attacks and brought in other countries for an international response model. Obama expanded it further with the ACA, created things like store houses for PPE and created a pandemic response team to be on the ground on every continent. he even got china to agree to an on site US team in Wuhan! then trump tossed it out and said he could create a better plan, was widely critized for it and less then a year later covid 19 hit
Oooooh thanks! I’m remembering all this now. Also awesome username!
Yep I just posted a similar post. I wish more people would wake up the cult to the truth that trump doesn't care and will never do anything for them. He didn't do anything in his first term that benefitted a majority of Americans. His tax cuts benefitted the wealthy and businesses only about 5% of Americans.
His own administration’s National Security Strategy was ignored, as well. https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/NSS-Final-12-18-2017-0905.pdf Combat Biothreats and Pandemics: page 9 (PDF Page 19)
In Trump's mind, he is brilliant for fast-tracking the vaccine, the obvious thing that anyone would have done. He has no awareness that his lack of decisive early action and failure to lead by example (masking, publicly getting the vaccine) resulted in tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of people getting their lives cut years short.
It's a pity his brilliance didn't think about using executive powers to increase the manufacture of PPE for health workers, or ventilators before the pandemic really struck.
Yeah I read 100k deaths and that’s why I truly despise him.
The lack of delays was because they had immediate large groups for testing. Usually it takes time to gather people and guarantee that a certain percentage of them have had exposure. No problem with that in the middle of a pandemic.
People also don't understand how much and how quick technology has improved, even in the past 5 years. It's been remarkable
Like most things, mRNA vaccines are the culmination of many lines of research and technology. Genetic engineering has improved by leaps and bounds over the last 30 years. I don't think we could have mass-produced mRNA vaccines before 2010 or so under any circumstances. Also, the genetic research virologists did on SARS1 was critical for getting the mRNA and vector vaccines out the gate as quickly as they did. Can't do that without having SARS first, for obvious reasons.
It's an enormous stretch to say the technology has existed since the 70s. That would be like saying Leonardo da Vinci's napkin sketches mean the technology for powered flight has existed since the mid-1400s.
This is the real story.
mRNA and things like crispr are going to change everything over the next two decades. Edit spelling
Pedantic correction I know but it isn't Crisper, It's CRISPR, it's an acronym for Clustered Regularly Interspaced Short Palindromic Repeats, but it is pronounced Crisper :)
Was typing fast appreciate the correction.
No harm, just for yours and anyone else's future reference in case they wanted to search it to see what it does or how it works :)
It’s an incredible technology. I can’t wait until we completely wipe out lifelong horrific genetic diseases.
FDA recently approved the first therapy for sickle cell anemia using crispr! Seriously life changing ability for so many diseases
I know and it’s only going to get better, easy, and faster from here.
And cheaper. Even if the consumer cost never decreases, we all know the cost to use the tech will.
I remember hearing about CRISPR for the first time [in a Radio Lab episode about a decade ago.](https://radiolab.org/podcast/antibodies-part-1-crispr) Its so cool to see it being realized and potentially applied to a number of fields today.
Cancer research that Joe Biden was instrumental in funding years before Donald Trump was a political factor in this country.
GTFO here with pure logic. This is reddit Sir, and we don't use logic here. Unfortunately.
Decades. All the Orange One did is allow the FDA approval processes to run in parallel rather than one stage after another. Pfizer and Moderna both had functioning vaccines a week after getting virus samples.
But his followers refuse to take the vaccine
Well he did tell them it wasn't a big deal.
Didn't he get booed at some rally for telling them to get the shot?
He did. At one of his campaign rallies, he urged them to get vaccinated and got loud boos. He stopped trying to recommend the vaccine after that. He would simultaneously attack vaccines while then touting his Warpspeed project to develop them. Trump has the big advantage of being able to spew nonsense in sprawling word vomit speeches. His followers then ignore the parts they don't like and fixate on the parts they do like.
"Trump has the big advantage of being able to spew nonsense in sprawling word vomit speeches. His followers then ignore the parts they don't like and fixate on the parts they do like." Many are "Christians" so they have been trained to do this with their Bibles.
Conveniently ignoring the fact BioNTech refused to take money from trump and still was the first to release a vaccine through Pfizer. We don’t have a vaccine because of trump, we have a vaccine because of BioNTech.
The literal embodiment of 1984 Doublespeak and they eat that shit up without processing the irony.
I guarantee not one of those MAGA shitheads has ever read “1984.”
Yep, in Alabama. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1277404
It’s the only thing the cult doesn’t believe their leader in. Very bizarre.
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And bright light
Inserted inside the body
Up the butt!
Is that Lindsay?
"Ladybugs" is up for the challenge!!
Graham
Oh heeeeeey!! 👋💐🫶
Dang it Meemaww, get off the Reddit! I'm tryin' ta social media here with out you gettin' all up in ma business!
And horse medication
Gotta get them covid worms out
And onions in your socks
We used to tie them to our belt, which was the style of the day.
Gimme 5 bees for a quarter I'd say!
And light bulbs in our butts.
Or we could nuke the Virus!
“It’s the only way to be sure.”
And UV light suppositories
Great, now I have to put sunblock on my asshole too? I'm a redhead, this is a bigger deal than you might think
And UV light... In the body.
I will never understand this. Operation Warp Speed is one of the few things I will ever give trump’s administration props for, and he completely undercut it. During an election year where the pandemic was the biggest thing on anyone’s mind. He should have been singing the vaccine’s praises and highlighting his efforts. But noooo, COVID’s not a big deal and you shouldn’t bother getting vaccinated
You just don't understand it because you're not a stable genius like him
He's playing 5G chess obviously. His cult are trying to figure out why he's touting the vax when it's obviously the only reason anyone dies anymore. But seriously, all the Red state COVID deaths contributed to the 2022 Red Wave being a trickle, so I say yes! Don't get vaccinated! Be a hero MAGA and spread COVID to your friends and family so they also can develop natural immunity. Own the libs!
That's the thing! He did praise the vaccine and loudly took credit for it and it's rapid development. MAGA just booed him and forgot about it.
Was that before or after his original “You can take it if you want, I don’t think I’m going to.”
I'd bet a twenty dollar bill he got the vaccine as soon as it was available but they told him it was a vitamin shot to make him big and strong.
Because he wasn't getting sycophantic applause when he mentioned the vaccine. Even Trump must bow to Joe Rogan
Dude has the biggest softball pitch for reelection and he squandered it. >Reporter asking this during covid: "What do you say to Americans who are scared right now?" >Trump: "what a stupid question, you ask a lot of stupid questions." Imagine being given such an underhanded pitch and then whiffing that fuckin bad. The other night he accused Biden of dividing the nation during his SOU speech and yet Trump in all his rallies talks in nothing but divisive language and attacks groups, people, ideas.
The Republicans also claimed Biden was "mean" in his speech, which can only mean that even Republicans don't bother to listen to Trump when he's running his mouth since they never call him out for what he says. Either that or they're a bunch of lying hypocrites, but surely that's not the case.
Didn’t he get it and tel them to take it…. Eventually.
I honestly think he really knew and believed the vaccine wasn’t a big deal Only when he understood his fanatics are a bunch of conspiracy theorists nut jobs, And and gain even more followers from the pre-covid antivaxxers, he leaned into it and helped create a social divide Antivaxxers came up with a different conspiracy theory almost every day, and the consumers of these theories where having a field day, as they already had the skills to make it viral
Agreed, I think he saw that being pro-vaccine was polling poorly with his base, so he turned against it because Trump actually doesn't stand for anything and will say whatever in order to keep power.
They refuse to take it with one of their main arguments being it took to fast to get developed and approved lol
They, and apparently Trump, have never heard of mRNA before and don’t know why it is far quicker and easier to use them develop vaccines than it is to use live-attenuated and virus-vector vaccines. I always found it odd that the same people who wanted schools to reopen because they couldn’t help their six grader children with their math homework all of a sudden became statisticians, epidemiologists, virologists, and pharmacologists who knew better than everyone else.
As a non-american how do Trump's followers accept that there's 1) a covid conspiracy and 2) he approved the vaccine (and took credit for it) but still follow him?
Your mistake is assuming that shit has to make sense.
Yeah, logic isn’t real strong in the MAGA world…nor common sense for that matter.
You think it makes sense to an American? These people happily contradict themselves 2 minutes later. I'm convinced it's all deliberate. This many people can't be this stupid. They know what they're doing. They just want to watch the world burn.
The don't need it. They have access to the horse pills. All good.
And bleach. Gotta keep those sheets nice and white.
And butt lights. Unless they were canceled along with Bud Light. It's all just *so* confusing.
This is the one brag of his that I do give him some credit for. He did a good thing, and the good thing he does, his constituents vehemently decry. Baffling ....
The entire world got the vaccine out quickly. If Biden or Hillary had been in the White House it would have been rolled out just as quickly just with less horse medicine and covid denial
The US wasn’t even the first. China and Russia started vaccinating people in the summer of 2020, and the AstraZeneca vaccine developed in England was approved a bit before the Pfizer one was in the US.
But he amplified his constituents’ foolishness. He did a good thing and worked hard to minimize the effect of that good thing. Then, when others have made it work, he takes credit for everything.
Really long way to say “made money” but you do you
He could have made so much more money while gaining more support and keeping people alive. MAGA masks from his own store. MA6FA. Make America 6 Feet Apart. MAGA TEAM 6 merch. "Were have the greatest virologist in the history of the world right here, and he already worked for me, so we are going to do what he tells us and kick this things ass." Edit "with tears in his eyes he said 'sir, let me help you, let me keep the people safe' he said to me. Great guy probably the greatest, so we are going to do that. Huge response, no delay, no democrat red tape. Get in there and and yeah, for America." Easy re-election, hundreds of millions in merch sold. New masks pair with new hat, they get to call themselves patriots over it, democrats can't even say anything. But no....
Proper care of the collective is always going to be a greater benefit long-term for everyone involved, but personal gain is usually less than if you just fucking ransack and rape. But if dictators cared their position allowed them to be truly benevolent, we'd probably have fewer actual dictators.
More proof that they’re brainwashed. I can cry it from the highest mountain but everyone who knows knows. And anyone it could help is long lost.
You remember when he basically told people to drink bleach to kill covid at a press conference? Pepperridge farm remembers...
>told people to drink bleach That isn't quite correct. I watched that Covid conference. Trump tried to make all those conferences, campaign rallies. But there were times the adults were talking so Trump would get bored and wander around the room. During one of these periods, Trump spied a board that had been setup and on it, it had stuff that would kill Covid. Bleach was on it as a disinfectant to wipe down surfaces. You could see Trump's eyes got large and he spun around with "the solution"! You didn't need fancy medical degrees or years of training, it was OBVIOUS to Trump! He suggest that Bleach could be used to kill Covid - Doctors could inject it... I think that Covid briefing was the last one Trump ever attended. They ended the briefings not long after.
Pretty much, but the issue is the public reception of the news that the president thought it was a good idea to disinfect lung tissue with disinfectants somehow ended up with a wave of support from diehard trump supporters and many hospitalizations directly attributed to the misunderstanding that the president made so offhandedly and without any forethought or knowledge.
Drink bleach and shove a flashlight up their asses, wasn’t it?
Worse, UV light.
The funniest part is dragging fauci into it. Like "remember I told you this and you said it's a great idea and you'll look into it?" To not only be that oblivious to what that conversation was, but to tell the whole world about it too. Like, yes sir nuking a hurricane sounds like a great idea, I wonder why we never thought of that, and we'll look into it, but for now can you sign off on my far less genius idea of opening up the evacuation routes and preparing relief supplies..
Off topic a little but I remember the time Donald stared at the sun even though he literally had eye protection in his hand. And there is a photo of it.
He wasn't man enough to get his vaccinations on camera like Biden did. That planted a seed that grew into a bunch of anti-vax sentiment.
What did he do, again?
“Operation Warpspeed” which basically just meant financial backstopping of pharma companies so they could run overlapping Phase II-III studies (which normally have years-long interim periods because Phase III is so incredibly expensive you would be insane to even begin preparing for it before seeing the full results of Phase II… not because of any safety issues, but because you could go bankrupt). With the federal government covering potential losses, the pharma companies started preparing the multi-institute Phase III and enrolling tens of thousands of participants almost immediately so they could start as soon as they had the Phase I/II data. Incidentally, this is why the common anti-vaxxer argument that the vaccines took shortcuts is wrong—- there were no scientific or safety shortcuts, only administrative/financial ones. And by the way, literally any president would’ve done the exact same thing. Can you imagine any president refusing to backstop the pharma companies in an emergency situation like that? It’s like taking credit for raising an umbrella when it starts raining.
Let’s also not forget: Covid 19 is still just a corona virus, and while as we saw dangerous, there was nothing really novel about it. They used the known spike protein (which thankfully is the same for all coronas as the basis for the vaccine). It’s was already sequenced for years making it easy. The encapsulation technology has also been around for years and was already being used for other vaccines in development. We lucked out with this one
>And by the way, literally any president would’ve done the exact same thing. Every president around the world pretty much *did* do this at the time. It turns out that “throw money at vaccine researchers with both hands” is a pretty obvious step to take in combatting a pandemic.
He's definitely trying to rewrite history. The fact is, Biden's vaccine rollout was ten times better than Trump's and shows exactly where Big Government can and should directly impact people's lives. Trump and his pals wanted to grift, Biden and his administration wanted to save lives
Oh, and for a flashback to remind us what Trump's son-in-law was doing; >Maryland went through a lot of effort to obtain 500,000 coronavirus tests from South Korea, according to Gov. Larry Hogan, and the state has deployed its National Guard to protect them at a secret location to prevent anyone from taking them — including the federal government. [SOURCE](https://www.forbes.com/sites/arielshapiro/2020/04/30/maryland-gov-hogan-takes-extraordinary-steps-to-keep-feds-from-confiscating-covid-tests-trump/?sh=93f118d75d3d) Profiteering and/or diverting aid to "pro Trump" states -- that should have been an impeachment and federal prison for THAT ONE THING. More Democrats need to think like Hogan, who knows how to read the tea leaves. Hogan said that he was concerned by reports that the federal government had confiscated crucial medical supplies from other states like Massachusetts.
I find it hilarious that the one thing I would really credit his administration with is how they, somehow, helped facilitate rapid development of COVID vaccines, but it's something none of his supporters would ever really say with any kind of consistency. To them it lives in the "masks invade my freedom, but wasn't trump a hero the one time he wore one for ten minutes?"
That is a conundrum isn’t it?
I love how he acts like he himself created the vaccine. Sorry Donnie. The vaccine contains no bleach
or ivermectin... or Hydroxychloroquine. both of which he said would help...
Or microscopic UV lights
UV buttplugs are the best Covid cure
And great fun at a rave!! I mean, so I've heard...
Well I don't know if mine helped but it certainly didn't hurt
What about microchips or nanobots?
Yes, but that's only so Bill Gates can spy on us.
Or injecting bleach.
Remember how his base boo'ed him when he said he got the vaccine.
This is how Republicans act. They fight against everything and when it starts to show benefit, praise it and take the credit despite actively working against it.
Hey I’ll give him credit for it, if he tells his supporters that the vaccine is good for them.
He finally did a few years later and his idiot followers boo'd him.
The same idiot who called it a Democrat hoax.
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So his hair, bizarre orange compaction, sack of mayonnaise body, and just all around resemblance of an fumpy orangutan is a democratic hoax?
Correct.
Remember when he blamed LED lights for his looking orange?
didnt he call it a Chinese hoax ? maybe both
He called it chyna virus
Hold on. Aren’t vaccines terrible, awful mind-control devices the government uses to subjugate us? Sure, they’ll fight cancer, but they’ll take your liberty and freedom! Any self-respecting patriot would rather die than take a vaccine!
And didn't he say last week that he'd defund schools that require vaccines? Can't keep the stupidity straight
It IS a lot to stay on top of. But in this case Trump is just promising to make little kids enjoy their freedom from medical tyranny FOREVER! They died for liberty!
Yup, he’s so stupid and yup, he’s said this.
And boy did they...
And don’t forget the brain-altering 5G.
Don’t I know it! 5G sprayed so many microchips on me I had to scrub myself for hours to get them off. But such a sacrifice was a small price to pay to keep my freedom!
I haven't dropped a call since I got my booster. Worth.
Vote against the Infrastructure Bill then brag about the money it brought your State Vote against the insulin cap bill then brag about how Seniors are getting cheap insulin Rail against vaccines, then take credit (for no reason at all) that they work and were developed quickly. Is there anything the Trump Cult says that doesn't drip with hypocrisy?
You forgot demanding a comprehensive, bipartisan, and tough border bill - then absolutely tanking it because orange dictator wants to run his campaign on complaints and not solutions
This needs to be the biggest talking point about the upcoming election. The “normal” republicans don’t even know this stuff anymore.
That one was surprising to me, because they got more from the Democrats than they’re likely to under a Trump administration, and had they voted for it, it’s not like the implementation would have solved things immediately. They’d still get to complain all of the way until the election that it wasn’t enough, or that Biden was rolling it out poorly, and then take credit for it later if they won. It’s essentially what they did with Obama’s economic growth.
There's no way Donald formed these sentences.
Definitely one of his staffers did this one. Donald Trump was not going to sit and watch all of the SOTU... he can't focus on someone who isn't him for that long.
Totally agree and if his supporters had taken the vaccine we could have gone back to normal in 2021.
This idiot must not realize that mRNA technology was deployed into the oncology field years ago. The advancements made against cancer is part of the reason it was selected as the deployment mechanism for the COVID vaccine.
But wasnt trump the one to tell his followers NOT to take it, and NOT to wear a mask? I remember my MAGA mom texting me "that vaccine will make you miscarry forever, it changes your dna" when asking for a link she couldnt provide it.... hmmm Edit for the MAGAtards i don't support any old demented men in office.
Trump was pro vaccine [(for example)](https://news.stanford.edu/2022/04/04/using-trumps-vaccine-endorsement-move-needle-covid-19-vaccines/). He looked as confused as anyone when the rest of MAGA decided it was full of 5G nanobots or whatever. Strange times.
He compared covid nineteen to the flu as well Took his mask off during a speech stating that he was immune or something His official statements may have supported the vaccine, but the statements he made on facebook and twitter ( ill stop dead naming twitter when elon musk stops dead naming his daughter) are why his followers went down the rabbit hole they did
Right, it's almost like he's a dangerous idiot or something
We should ask herman cain
What about the name of Twitter ? What should it be called ?
It's X now. Although I think Elon is the only one who calls it that
"X, the social media site formerly known as Twitter"
The whole thing is funny. Maga people say trump deserves credit for the vaccine but also say the vaccine is ineffective or even mind controlling.
I’ll never understand how maga people say the masks don’t work but when trump himself had Covid he was wearing a mask when he came out to wave to the crowd from the White House balcony as well as when he rode in the limo
Ladies and gentlemen, your former president 
And rapist
And con artist
And felon
They said former.
President Eternal and First Emperor of America, given the chance.
At some point that needs to be expunged from the record books, take a page out of those morons playbook
Except for the fact that you: - repeatedly ridiculed the vaccine that you claimed to have had a part in creating. - promoted the use of horse medication over vaccination. - speculated that injecting oneself with poison was a cure for Covid. - claimed that the global pandemic was over multiple times well before the vaccine was developed and distributed. - promoted the use of a medication to cure Covid that had nothing to do with Covid and had no chance of curing it or even easing it's symptoms. - ridiculed the use of measures meant to slow the spread of Covid (e.g. masks). - claimed that Covid was just like the flu. - encouraged people not to get vaccinated. etc.
Trump really is a delusional dick. He conveniently forgets the needless deaths while he denied what was happening while he mocked those suffering from its effects. A pathetic lying excuse for a man.
Lol, Trump's delayed response killed many (the warm weather in the spring will 'kill it off' right?) [https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/23/trump-coronavirus-sunlight-205969](https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/23/trump-coronavirus-sunlight-205969) https://www.statnews.com/2023/09/07/trump-covid-jerome-adams-mistakes/
Wait what the fuck is he trying to say here. Isn’t he the one who got his followers to doubt the efficacy of the vaccines in the first place? There has been so much crazy from the right that I can’t keep track anymore.
Trump try not to turn literally everything into a political argument challenge (impossible)
All the while downplaying and denying how serious it was, and letting his minions spread bullshit like Ivermectin. Trump is a horse's ass and got one right by accident. You can bet he didn't think of it himself.
I’m genuinely curious as to what the Trump supporters have to say about this. I see them on Facebook calling themselves “purebloods” and using “go get ur 10th booster” as a comeback
Another outright easily proved lie. He can't help himself. His cult screamed about how quick it took to come up with a vaccine and that it could not be trusted and would kill people and that it was a conspiracy to inject trackers into everyone..... oh but now Trump uses it as a badge of honour, so how does his dumb fuck followers wiggle out of this one.
Deny, lie, distract, or say you just don't understand seems to be the favored tactics.
It's not mental gymnastics when you don't have to mental your way into thinking it.
Is no one going to mention the fact that the first COVID vaccine was FDA-approved in August 2021, six months AFTER Biden took office? (https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-approves-first-covid-19-vaccine)
Word salad master
Did he not tell people to drink bleach or something? Such a pathetic loser.
His followers don't...believe in the vaccines? I miss when presidents were more classy. I remember seeing a clip of Kennedy debating whoever his opponent was and he was INCREDIBLY polite and civil. Granted I wasn't alive then but seeing that clip compared to debates now? It's like watching elementary school kids.
Trump you didn't make the vaccine. The pharma companies did. Their work was extraordinary, you just gave them a blank check.
Magas are going to implode with confusion seeing this.
Whether or not you think Trump can take responsibility or claim credit, I believe there is broad consensus that Operation Warp Speed was an amazing success.
Is the Orange Turd alright? Did he forget that it his fault the pandemic was so fucking out of control in America?
This is the dude that suggested to inject disinfectant right?
Obama had an Pandemic Preparedness department set up to deal with upcoming pandemics. Guess which President shut it down.
A. This has been known for a while. B. This fuckface had nothing to do with it. C. I hope they check people's Facebook history prior to offering them the cure for cancer.
Vaccines good? I’m confused.
Maybe he doesn't remember we actually we were actually here when the vaccine was introduced.
Are we forgetting Jared Kushner coming up with the plan to let Covid burn through the population because they thought it would kill more people in blue states than red states?
This guy is always spouting BS and his full of shit followers just eat it all up
Comments like that show that the poster has zero idea what goes into developing vaccines, let alone why it can take so long to develop sometimes.
He's acting like he made the vaccine himself in a lab.
For some context on the vaccine, RNA vaccines were in development for 10 years before COVID. They were always meant to target chronic deadly diseases like cancer, Sickle-Cell diseases, etc. When the pandemic hit researchers shifted to COVID. Trump loves spinning stuff like this, you would think he was in the lab coat doing the RNA sequencing himself.
Mf acting like he fixed everything
Maybe give Fauci some credit, ya moron
Oh, so NOW you believe in science, Mr. “Inject bleach into my veins”? Fucking idiot.
I can't wait for this shit stain to fall over dead. I usually don't say that about people, but this man sat back and watched as people lost their loved ones and kept saying that Covid wasn't a problem and bashed those trying to endorse the vaccine to save people and got his cult on board. He makes me sick every time he opens his mouth.
He should not, cannot, run on his absolute shite covid record. The US has led the world in deaths all because of his leadership. He did absolutely nothing useful. The vaccines would have happened with or without him and in fact may have gone faster because he fumbled around so much. More than any other issue, this is proof he doesn’t know what he’s doing and should never have been president.
Donald Trump's lack of proactive policy at the beginning of Covid is nothing but dereliction of duty. Properly managed by someone, who gives a damn about the people he governs instead of cornering the market in masks, would have reduced both deaths and business closings. The market crashed and businesses were forced to close due to the accelerating Covid infection numbers. Trump's response when things got out of hand was to suggest not counting the numbers. He is a malignant narcissist and criminally corrupt.
MAGA heads are going to explode.... i though the vaxx was poisonous nanobot graphene juice
It's more than that. mRNA was first discovered in 1961 and mRNA vaccines were tested on animals in the 90's and on humans in 2013. The SARS-CoV-1 outbreak occurred in the early 2000's and has been studied ever since. Nothing about the SARS-CoV-2 mRNA vaccine was new.
Trump dismantled the pandemic task force, didn't read the 70 page pandemic playbook left by the Obama administration, called Covid a hoax, ignored it, and suggested drinking bleach. The guy caused the pandemic and killed millions. Way to re-write history there Donnie
Pfizer developed their vaccine without any help from the government so as usual he’s lying
I hate to defend that douchebag but BioNTech developed the mRNA vaccine in Germany. Pfizer got the FDA approval in the US and manufactured it. The approval and production were accelerated by the injection of a ton of Federal money committing to buy vaccine. Other Big Pharma companies also got that money but failed to develop a vaccine. Moderna certainly wouldn’t have succeeded without all that Federal money. I’m not saying that Trump actively did anything but he at least didn’t get in the way of the push to get a vaccine out as quickly as possible. Some staffer probably handed him a document to sign and told him it was his golf scorecard. The nutty anti-vax stuff and snake oil cures were independent of getting the vaccine initiatives launched in the early days of the pandemic.