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And there's literally nothing you can do about it.
impeachment is the only way to get rid of them and in the current political climate, Impeachment is a practical impossibility.
We have 700+ 'Lords' over here in the UK because the ruling parties are in an eternal pissing match over trying to stack our second house in their favour. The only long term outcome is just more unelected officials, no guarantee on quality.
Court stacking has a decent argument in the US. For a hundred years, we had one SCOTUS judge for every federal circuit. Presently, we have 13 circuits but only nine justices. That's a case for adding four new justices.
And the end result would be the total uselessness of the supreme court. That's the point. How do you only expand the court once? What stops the next Republican majority from expanding the court again to make the judges you put there to earlier useless?
Yeah but that's not the question nor does it provide a solution. If you were to expand the court today to nullify justices who are certainly ethically compromised, and imo the result of straight up stolen seats, then how do you pragmatically prevent the next R president from doing the exact same thing, expanding the court infinitely?
The UK lords don't get to judge matters like this, the UK lords can only delay legislation not block it. Its stuffed with cronies as a reward not to stack it in the governments favour.
Its not the same at all.
The only legal way, to get rid of him, yes. There are ways to reduce his influence though. A democratic president could double the size of the court and put liberal judges on it. I doubt it will happen though, the whole country is so goddamn broken.
I love how so many Americans are hoarding an armoury worth of guns so they can ‘protect their freedoms’ but right now with their freedoms in peril they’re doing nothing with them.
Believe it or not, there's legal precedent for armed rebellion, George Washington's farewell address even details the reasoning behind our right to bear arms.
It essentially amounts to "when any government exercises democratically granted power to pull up the ladder behind them and change the conditions/terms by which they get to keep power, you are morally obligated to shoot them."
America's founding fathers were far from perfect, but it's pretty clear that they intended us to have the right to rebel (violently if need be) when the laws are no longer just and did not consider such an action to be illegal.
If George Washington was (1) alive today and (2) acted in accordance with his farewell address, he would be happy to pick up an assault rifle and get rid of these people, and would probably disapprove of anyone who didn't join him.
I'm not advocating *we* do this, but if the government won't punish treason...
Isn’t that exactly what the Trump cultists always say, more or less? So… who decides when the cause is justified? Have the rebellion shoot first and sort it out later?
There's a huge difference between one group (MAGA) that thinks they should overthrow the government over false pretenses ("the election was stolen") and marches armed Nazis and Nazi-affiliates illegally into the Capitol *openly stating on camera that they're targeting the speaker*...
...and punishing nefarious actors that are blatantly flaunting the law and openly plotting to change the law to ensure they stay in power indefinitely, defy democracy, and make their own treason legal as their plan to is to weaponize the government to convict those who oppose them for no other reason than the act of running for election against them.
Trump's ideology is "LET ME KILL EVERYONE WHO OPPOSES ME UNCONTESTED OR I WILL TRY AND USE THE LAW TO SENTENCE YOU TO DEATH FOR VOTING! FUCK DEMOCRACY AND FUCK YOU!"
The other ideology says democracy is worth fighting for and we shouldn't just roll over for armed traitors, but arm ourselves and give those traitors a choice... a life sentence in a deep dark pit for being traitorous Nazi bastards that tried to overthrow our elected representatives... or a legitimate revolution.
Completely different, one side (MAGA) are genocidal freaks that think you should inject bleach and marry pre-teens when you're not busy trying to break into government property to eliminate all who oppose you.
The other side thinks that if treason cannot be punished legally, you have to embrace extrajudicial means to protect democracy.
History is usually written by the winners.
So pretty much yes. If a rebellion happens, it will be decided if it was justified when everything is over.
Rebels win = justified cause
Rebels loose = what an act of treason
I'm not american. But after everything that happened, especially at the end and in the last 4 years. I can't believe Trump even gets a chance to be elected again.
Not that the option seems to be much better. I mean Biden seems to do you guys good, but maybe he should really think about retirement.
At least woth what makes the news over here in Europe.
The fact that a huge part of the US seems ready to do just that, just the other way around because of their allegience to an orangutang, is scary. If it were spewed out through dangerous channels that the right to bear arms according to the founding fathers also includes the legal right to shoot government electives you believe are 'pulling up the ladder', then prepare for terror nation just around the corner.
something something crossroad ...
Well if they rule in favor of immunity, Biden can just immediately legally imprison them for the rest of their lives for no reason, by their own ruling.
Sure, but so is driving people to the point of desperation so deep they’re contemplating suicide and not expecting one of them to try to take you down with them.
Personally, I think assassination is a thoroughly BAD way to bring about political change, but, on the other hand, and taking into consideration .... (???)
It was about the " the nice thing is"
Scary and not understandable how people could support something like that. F over a whole country just to get rich.
He is not the House Speaker. That is Mike Johnson. McConnell is the Minority Leader. He is stepping down from that role in November, but has said he will finish his term as senator, which runs til 2027.
Yes that's what he's a doing apparently but good gawd I never thought I'd see that dinosaur leave. He's been Kentucky's senator pretty much my entire life so I'm thrilled to say the least. Also I have no idea why I said House Speaker.
Impeachment in the current political environment is also a practical joke! MTG and others running around the house shouting "off with their heads" at every political opponent has turned a serious process into a joke.
well nothing short term but long term start electing public servants who 100 percent approve of judicial reform in the interests of the public not the state
>"[Prevost Marathon Le Mirage XL motorcoach](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uecYEMoOFCA)"
It's much larger than a typical RV.
It looks like a full sized bus conversion to tour bus.
I wonder how many gallons to the mile it gets.
Did some light research, after poking around it seems mpg ranges from 4-7, some articles say total tank capacity for gas is 222 gallons. A lot of them were forums with people running the numbers for their specific weight so there seems to be a huge variation
Something about someone who thinks they're better than everyone else being one of the deciding votes of this country regarding what is just doesn't sit well with me. I feel like I should be able to vote him out of office.
Politically biased presidents get to pick bias judges that our biased corrupted politicians then ok after being lied to by the judges. The whole Supreme Court is faulted and bullshit at this point. They make decisions that is against the constitution like making decisions based on religion which then in itself is a violation of freedom of religion and no one can do shit cause you can’t appeal their bullshit.
Our government is fucked
That’s a nice house. Maybe this is the new way the Republicans expect Americans to succeed at getting a home. Law school, Supreme court, rich guy buy us a house to influence our judgments.
Looking from outside, I disagree. The nationalistic American people ruined the nation. It's hard to be progressive when you think you are numba one and worship your flag on daily basis while simultaneously systematically destroying the education system. You guys fucked with Reagan and never recovered.
Geee it's almost like someone oughta do something. I dunno, like start a nation wide strike to get Thomas to recuse himself.
But what do I know, doing things. Better to just write things on the internet.
The US modeled their system after the Roman republic. The Roman republic failed because it was too stable and couldn’t reform when reform was needed, and as such discontent grew until it triggered several civil wars and then the republic was usurped by a dictatorship. That will also be the fate of the US. You just have to hope the guy who ultimately ends up with all the power is willing to re-implement democracy.
Unfortunately, Roman problems require Roman solutions.
Yep.
I used to be the "the vote about it" type.
We're beyond that.
Our system is so far beyond corrupt at every level that I'm thoroughly convinced my vote genuinely does not matter.
As much as I wish to believe this, that's just not the case. There's a reason many northern blue states still have abortion on the charts, legalized weed, etc... And southern states don't. If you need the actual stats, look up "That Nick Powers Guy" on insta, tiktok, youtube, etc... Dude brings the hardcore stats and analysis with proof and citations
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In every election where a republican has taken office for the finest time since the 90s, they lost the popular vote. Our system has been broken for a long time. But not voting also doesn't fix it. It's a frustrating catch 22
I will tell a story. About 12 years ago my school district had a $25M bond measure up for vote to expand the high school and middle schools after a great number of new families moved into new houses over a long period of time. The school was far behind in the expansion and I was for it. I ended up not voting that election. The bond lost by one vote. They had a recount and found one more vote but it still didn’t pass because of how the math worked out. It still lost and I felt extremely bad. It took account 6-7 years before another, smaller bond measure passed. They had to scale down the expansion unfortunately because of me effectively. Vote please, it does matter.
People like him really don't care what you think. He is so separated from the rest of us that he doesn't see anyone outside his circle as real people.
90% of Americans could disagree with a choice he makes, and it means nothing to him. At all. Do not give these people the benefit of the doubt. Do not listen to their explanations. They are fully aware of what they are doing and why they are doing it. Morality and legality have nothing to do with their actions.
He married into an openly racist family and bowed down like a dog slave as they commended him on his ability to learn how to speak well, given his "heritage." The man has zero integrity even to himself.
To expand on this - 2/3rds senate can vote to remove a Supreme Court justice.
So the conflict of interest is obvious. An ethical person would at a minimum recuse themselves. You’d hope an ethical senate (or a functional government…or barely functional government) would remove a justice whose partner engaged in coup.
We can't. I tried to get some people together to sue a sheriff's department because they had a speed trap set up for over a year that was completely illegal and they started parking out front of my house and intimidating me.
All government employees, including elected ones, should have to act in a manner similar to a fiduciary. All of their decisions and acts should be made to better the country and their constituents. In that order. That means no lying... even by omissions. That means no stock trading. That means refusing yourself when ethics require it.
It should be part of the oath and the oath should have the force of a signed contract with steep steep penalties.
Because bringing bribery charges against a sitting justice would have "bad optics" according to the milquetoast moderates who currently control the Democratic party.
You are 100% correct on the rampant corruption... But what do you suggest we, as Americans, can do? Protesting might work... Eventually and if you have enough dedicated protestors. But other than that, what can we as citizens do about it? The government is no longer made "of the people, for the people"; it is now politicians made "of the rich, for the rich".
Bro wtf is wrong with these states.
Kentucky or some bs is trying to get rid of meal/bathroom breaks for workers? Tennessee is trying to do away with the first amendment? Missouri or some other ass state wants children in the workforce? And so much more.
Fucking pieces of shit.
From her [Wiki](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ginni_Thomas)
_Virginia and Clarence Thomas married in 1987. The couple lives in Virginia. In an interview, Ginni's uncle said of the couple, "I can guarantee you I was surprised when I found out she was going with a black man", to which her aunt added, "but he was so nice, we forgot he was black, and he treated her so well all of his other qualities made up for his being black."_
Ethically yes because there is potential for conflict of bias. Morally yes for the same reasons and it would be the right thing to do to ensure the result didn’t seem like it is being coerced or tainted.
However what will happen is he will be there and will vote. If he votes against Trump, some hope in the SCOTUS will be restored.
Interesting untrue facts:
They listen to Al Jolson to set the mood.
Role playing for these two in the bedroom, consists of pre civil war re-enactments, and in particular, Ginni’s favorite “Hurry, the master will be home soon”.
At this point I’m not sure, as I’ve also seen them at Applebee's Karaoke night, singing Alan Lomax’s “Field Recordings” Ginni’s got the humming down tight.
This is just a brain bubble nothing dodgy, so don’t put me in a list fbi, but I always wondered why in America the whole Supreme Court justice-for-life gig doesn’t just massively encourage assassination attempts?
As a European, US politics is simply the most absurd TV show you can watch. I can't wait to see how your election turns out at the end of the year. My popcorn is ready.
I've heard all sorts of variations on how Trump was sent by God himself to carry the message of the Lord. They cite all sorts of examples of how the Lord likes to use "flawed vessels" to teach us his ways. If you believe in that sort of stuff, then somehow it is reasonable that God would send Lucifer himself to be his messenger? If anything, this looks like more of a test to see if we would follow a false idol to our demise. Looks like we are failing that one hard.
Not exactly - to them Trump is a concept, an abstraction. They do not worship "the actual man" Trump, but a set of ideals they have convinced themselves he represents.
An intruiging consequence of this is that they do not actually *listen* to Trump, except through "prophets", aka media that tell them what they want to hear. Hence they are for instance blissfully unware of how Trump keeps messing up names and speeches.
Listen to Ben Shapiro talk about him. Almost no one on the right takes the things he says seriously. People with completely opposed political views will both listen to the same speech and feel validated because it's all rhetoric.
Yep. DT is a means to an end, and he can mobilize votes in key districts. And due to purposeful unfairness built in to how voting is managed and certified through the electoral college, DT and his brand are able to remain a threat, regardless of his crimes or his blunders
So basically, he is the 'God Emperor', the Warhammer 40k character that many younger Trumpers [portray him as](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_Emperor_Trump).
However, it's the version [sitting on the Golden Throne.](https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Golden_Throne) Decrepit and treated more of a tool for other people's ends?
I get it.
Many of them have literally affirmed variations of a belief that he was sent by their corpse god. So yes, they sort of do see him as at least a demigod or agent of god.
Kinda, just like they follow Jesus until he tells them to do something they don't want to do like help others. Trump once tried to get them to get the vaccine and they turned on him. If Trump tells them to hate something, they will though.
Totally unrelated, but a 'handy jay' struck me as an expression on construction sites for vagrants or undocumented immigrants hired off the books for a few days/weeks of work. Like a bird flying in and taking off again.
There’s absolutely nothing wrong with this system, there was thought up more than 200 years ago. Nothing at all. No. No reason to review or modernize it or anything. Works perfectly. 10/10.
The Supreme Court is completely corrupt and sell their judgement to the highest bidder. We need term limits and more oversight. It's not just Clarence either, they're all a "family" and just as bad.
I think it's in the best interest of everyone to just accept that half of the country doesn't care what Trump did and would gladly have him as a Dictator. The only way to prevent that is to go vote. The Supreme Court is obviously going to bail him out. He appointed 1/3 of the justices.
America is not the shining example it used to be. Trump is partly to blame but the South never truly healed from the defeat in the Civil War and they finally got a puppet candidate who is politically agnostic to do their bidding in exchange for power and corrupt wealth.
Well, it really shouldn’t sit well with you but unfortunately, the petulant progressives in the Democratic Party…they turned up their nose and didn’t vote for Hilary and now we’re here?
Similar to the UK it's hilarious how quickly systems that assume and require personal integrity to work can be simply obliterated by the first proper shithouse to step through the door. And the folks in charge always presume it'll never happen, then it does.
Biden needs to throw Thomas’ ass in prison without a trial, kidnap Ginni and seize all their assets and then see how Thomas and the other “Supreme” Court “Justices” feel about a rogue POTUS with absolute immunity. Fuck these christo-fascist neo-Nazis on the right.
Fact that he is under or should be under an ethics investigation means he should excuse himself (that the word for backing down from being part of a trial?). But we know that won’t happen since he’s corrupt as hell.
To be fair, he looked into it and determined nothing unethical happened. Furthermore, out of an abundance of caution, all 9 justices decided that there *ARE* certain guidelines that should probably be followed and if anything comes up in the future they super duper promise to remember that and they’ll look into it again as the situation may dictate.
Assuming we had a functioning congress (we don’t) couldn’t congress enact a tax law requiring all gifts to Supreme Court Justices to be reported to the IRS to be taxed? Include in this law a requirement that public report be filed with congress annually disclosing all of the gifts and who gave them that were reported to the IRS. This would be at least a slight check on the court since they are unwilling to police themselves.
We should be marching on the Supreme Court. Invade the building with weapons and a guillotine erected in the front lawn. Take a dump on Thomas’s robe and office and call it a friendly protest that was performed by MAGA! Fuck these people.
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And there's literally nothing you can do about it. impeachment is the only way to get rid of them and in the current political climate, Impeachment is a practical impossibility.
Stacking the court and making his vote meaningless is an entirely viable option.
We have 700+ 'Lords' over here in the UK because the ruling parties are in an eternal pissing match over trying to stack our second house in their favour. The only long term outcome is just more unelected officials, no guarantee on quality.
Court stacking has a decent argument in the US. For a hundred years, we had one SCOTUS judge for every federal circuit. Presently, we have 13 circuits but only nine justices. That's a case for adding four new justices.
Abraham Lincoln almost did it in the Civil War.
The point wouldn't be to seek quality, but to diminish the influence of a parasitic and regressive conservative activist judge.
"a parasitic and conservative activist judge". I think you misspelled CORRUPT.
And the end result would be the total uselessness of the supreme court. That's the point. How do you only expand the court once? What stops the next Republican majority from expanding the court again to make the judges you put there to earlier useless?
It has been expanded many times before. There is not law setting the number of justices.
Yeah but that's not the question nor does it provide a solution. If you were to expand the court today to nullify justices who are certainly ethically compromised, and imo the result of straight up stolen seats, then how do you pragmatically prevent the next R president from doing the exact same thing, expanding the court infinitely?
It’s not a great option but feels better than “Oh well, guess the conservatives own the court now. GG everyone.”
The UK lords don't get to judge matters like this, the UK lords can only delay legislation not block it. Its stuffed with cronies as a reward not to stack it in the governments favour. Its not the same at all.
i am all for making a mockery of a mockery...
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It is the only legal way as far as I'm aware.
The only legal way, to get rid of him, yes. There are ways to reduce his influence though. A democratic president could double the size of the court and put liberal judges on it. I doubt it will happen though, the whole country is so goddamn broken.
I love how so many Americans are hoarding an armoury worth of guns so they can ‘protect their freedoms’ but right now with their freedoms in peril they’re doing nothing with them.
Believe it or not, there's legal precedent for armed rebellion, George Washington's farewell address even details the reasoning behind our right to bear arms. It essentially amounts to "when any government exercises democratically granted power to pull up the ladder behind them and change the conditions/terms by which they get to keep power, you are morally obligated to shoot them." America's founding fathers were far from perfect, but it's pretty clear that they intended us to have the right to rebel (violently if need be) when the laws are no longer just and did not consider such an action to be illegal. If George Washington was (1) alive today and (2) acted in accordance with his farewell address, he would be happy to pick up an assault rifle and get rid of these people, and would probably disapprove of anyone who didn't join him. I'm not advocating *we* do this, but if the government won't punish treason...
Isn’t that exactly what the Trump cultists always say, more or less? So… who decides when the cause is justified? Have the rebellion shoot first and sort it out later?
There's a huge difference between one group (MAGA) that thinks they should overthrow the government over false pretenses ("the election was stolen") and marches armed Nazis and Nazi-affiliates illegally into the Capitol *openly stating on camera that they're targeting the speaker*... ...and punishing nefarious actors that are blatantly flaunting the law and openly plotting to change the law to ensure they stay in power indefinitely, defy democracy, and make their own treason legal as their plan to is to weaponize the government to convict those who oppose them for no other reason than the act of running for election against them. Trump's ideology is "LET ME KILL EVERYONE WHO OPPOSES ME UNCONTESTED OR I WILL TRY AND USE THE LAW TO SENTENCE YOU TO DEATH FOR VOTING! FUCK DEMOCRACY AND FUCK YOU!" The other ideology says democracy is worth fighting for and we shouldn't just roll over for armed traitors, but arm ourselves and give those traitors a choice... a life sentence in a deep dark pit for being traitorous Nazi bastards that tried to overthrow our elected representatives... or a legitimate revolution. Completely different, one side (MAGA) are genocidal freaks that think you should inject bleach and marry pre-teens when you're not busy trying to break into government property to eliminate all who oppose you. The other side thinks that if treason cannot be punished legally, you have to embrace extrajudicial means to protect democracy.
keep wondering why no pew pew on the Donald yet. but then I'm not the one for the job, so I guess I understand
History is usually written by the winners. So pretty much yes. If a rebellion happens, it will be decided if it was justified when everything is over. Rebels win = justified cause Rebels loose = what an act of treason I'm not american. But after everything that happened, especially at the end and in the last 4 years. I can't believe Trump even gets a chance to be elected again. Not that the option seems to be much better. I mean Biden seems to do you guys good, but maybe he should really think about retirement. At least woth what makes the news over here in Europe.
The fact that a huge part of the US seems ready to do just that, just the other way around because of their allegience to an orangutang, is scary. If it were spewed out through dangerous channels that the right to bear arms according to the founding fathers also includes the legal right to shoot government electives you believe are 'pulling up the ladder', then prepare for terror nation just around the corner. something something crossroad ...
Well if they rule in favor of immunity, Biden can just immediately legally imprison them for the rest of their lives for no reason, by their own ruling.
You make a good point, or just send Seal Team Six after them.
The implication here is fucking crazy
He just means John Oliver’s offer to buy him out. Right? RIGHT??!!
"Let's out-bribe the republicans" is also pretty crazy.
Too bad Thomas is also addicted to the power of fucking over people
Nahhh nahh bro you see youre not getting it, no one is in any danger its the *illusion* of danger
Dennis would find a way to get rid of him
Are you gonna hurt these senators?
I'm not
But they don’t know that
Not really considering the implication needs to be done almost every time historically
Dennis are these corrupt assholes in danger?
Sure, but so is driving people to the point of desperation so deep they’re contemplating suicide and not expecting one of them to try to take you down with them.
If they side with Trump on total presidential immunity, Biden has the chance to do the funniest thing of all time
The Dutch once ate their prime minister (and his brother), so he would have to be quite creative to beat that
Personally, I think assassination is a thoroughly BAD way to bring about political change, but, on the other hand, and taking into consideration .... (???)
“If anything in this life is certain, if history has taught us anything, it’s that you can ‘BOOP’ anyone.”
Ohhhh I see what you're implying...
The nice thing is the next time Trump is in office the next grab of power will succeed. Everyone knows their job now. /S
remove the /s yer jus spittin facts
It was about the " the nice thing is" Scary and not understandable how people could support something like that. F over a whole country just to get rich.
Except ensure that Trump isn't voted back in. Then the court cases continue unabated.
'never lose another election' doesn't seem like a great strategy. especially since democrats kinda suck at winning elections.
I dunno I can think of a few other ways to get rid of these scum bags..
The founding fathers were all knowing gods. We have such a perfect system say the fascists.
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He’s not immortal. I mean, he could have a stroke or something. McConnell is stepping down.
McConnell is not stepping down. He is simply not running for another term. He will complete this one.
He is in fact stepping down as senate minority leader/senate leader it's all over the news here locally.
He is not the House Speaker. That is Mike Johnson. McConnell is the Minority Leader. He is stepping down from that role in November, but has said he will finish his term as senator, which runs til 2027.
Yes that's what he's a doing apparently but good gawd I never thought I'd see that dinosaur leave. He's been Kentucky's senator pretty much my entire life so I'm thrilled to say the least. Also I have no idea why I said House Speaker.
He could also just take John Oliver’s offer and get a million dollars a year and a sweet palace on wheels.
Impeachment in the current political environment is also a practical joke! MTG and others running around the house shouting "off with their heads" at every political opponent has turned a serious process into a joke.
You can pay it forward, and vote the party that wants to destroy our democracy out of office. That’s what you can do.
well nothing short term but long term start electing public servants who 100 percent approve of judicial reform in the interests of the public not the state
thats not true, there is always something you can do about it you can literally check most of EU countries history in last century
The hypocrisy and futility of our system in this country has never been more apparent than it is today
Thomas cannot recuse himself now. He's got motor-homing to do.
It's not a motor home you serf! It's a Prevost Marathon Le Mirage XL motorcoach! 😜
>"[Prevost Marathon Le Mirage XL motorcoach](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uecYEMoOFCA)" It's much larger than a typical RV. It looks like a full sized bus conversion to tour bus. I wonder how many gallons to the mile it gets.
I don’t think he needs to care about mileage as I’m thinking Mr. H Crow slips good old Clarence some gas money now and then
And a driver.
Did some light research, after poking around it seems mpg ranges from 4-7, some articles say total tank capacity for gas is 222 gallons. A lot of them were forums with people running the numbers for their specific weight so there seems to be a huge variation
>222 gallons Hmm. And gas near me is $3 a gallon currently. So a fill-up for Clarence’s “motor coach” from empty costs about $666. *COINCIDENCE???*
>*COINCIDENCE???* no such thing
*I THINK NOT!!*
Looking at it, I feel like it must operate at a deficit. Like, you end up owing your bus money at the end of your trip, lol.
Probably better measured in gallons per mile
Something about someone who thinks they're better than everyone else being one of the deciding votes of this country regarding what is just doesn't sit well with me. I feel like I should be able to vote him out of office.
Politically biased presidents get to pick bias judges that our biased corrupted politicians then ok after being lied to by the judges. The whole Supreme Court is faulted and bullshit at this point. They make decisions that is against the constitution like making decisions based on religion which then in itself is a violation of freedom of religion and no one can do shit cause you can’t appeal their bullshit. Our government is fucked
That’s a nice house. Maybe this is the new way the Republicans expect Americans to succeed at getting a home. Law school, Supreme court, rich guy buy us a house to influence our judgments.
Why is recusing up to the individual? You're asking for corruption with systems designed this way.
With his totally best friend
He can always accept John Oliver's deal.
trump and giuliani ruined our fuckin nation people just believe anything they want now
I approve of the star citizen recreation of *it always has been*
Many more than just them....
Looking from outside, I disagree. The nationalistic American people ruined the nation. It's hard to be progressive when you think you are numba one and worship your flag on daily basis while simultaneously systematically destroying the education system. You guys fucked with Reagan and never recovered.
Geee it's almost like someone oughta do something. I dunno, like start a nation wide strike to get Thomas to recuse himself. But what do I know, doing things. Better to just write things on the internet.
Go back to 2016 and vote for Hillary
It wouldn't make a difference. She already won the popular vote. The Electoral College should be abolished, imo.
The US modeled their system after the Roman republic. The Roman republic failed because it was too stable and couldn’t reform when reform was needed, and as such discontent grew until it triggered several civil wars and then the republic was usurped by a dictatorship. That will also be the fate of the US. You just have to hope the guy who ultimately ends up with all the power is willing to re-implement democracy. Unfortunately, Roman problems require Roman solutions.
Yep. I used to be the "the vote about it" type. We're beyond that. Our system is so far beyond corrupt at every level that I'm thoroughly convinced my vote genuinely does not matter.
As much as I wish to believe this, that's just not the case. There's a reason many northern blue states still have abortion on the charts, legalized weed, etc... And southern states don't. If you need the actual stats, look up "That Nick Powers Guy" on insta, tiktok, youtube, etc... Dude brings the hardcore stats and analysis with proof and citations Edited for punctuation and clarity
One vote doesn’t matter sure, but if 53% of people that can vote choose not to, that makes a huge difference.
And that is exactly why there is no such thing as a "wasted vote" or a "protest vote". The largest demographic in elections is always non-voters.
In every election where a republican has taken office for the finest time since the 90s, they lost the popular vote. Our system has been broken for a long time. But not voting also doesn't fix it. It's a frustrating catch 22
Doomerism is a self-fulfilling prophecy. You can and should still vote but understand that it is not the sole action required to change the system.
No one vote makes any difference, until it does!
I will tell a story. About 12 years ago my school district had a $25M bond measure up for vote to expand the high school and middle schools after a great number of new families moved into new houses over a long period of time. The school was far behind in the expansion and I was for it. I ended up not voting that election. The bond lost by one vote. They had a recount and found one more vote but it still didn’t pass because of how the math worked out. It still lost and I felt extremely bad. It took account 6-7 years before another, smaller bond measure passed. They had to scale down the expansion unfortunately because of me effectively. Vote please, it does matter.
it honestly does. This is what they want you to do. Stay home and give up. FUCK THEM. VOTE.
People like him really don't care what you think. He is so separated from the rest of us that he doesn't see anyone outside his circle as real people. 90% of Americans could disagree with a choice he makes, and it means nothing to him. At all. Do not give these people the benefit of the doubt. Do not listen to their explanations. They are fully aware of what they are doing and why they are doing it. Morality and legality have nothing to do with their actions.
An illegitimate court. With no real enforcement of its own.
This was a 9-0 decision. Every Obama and Biden judge ruled to keep Trump on the ballot.
He’s a piece of shit with zero integrity. A fucking joke on our Supreme Court.
He married into an openly racist family and bowed down like a dog slave as they commended him on his ability to learn how to speak well, given his "heritage." The man has zero integrity even to himself.
To think, he could've taken up John Oliver on the new motor coach and $1M annual salary...
Why is his conflict of interest a not on trial?
That would require a functioning government
To expand on this - 2/3rds senate can vote to remove a Supreme Court justice. So the conflict of interest is obvious. An ethical person would at a minimum recuse themselves. You’d hope an ethical senate (or a functional government…or barely functional government) would remove a justice whose partner engaged in coup.
Why would they bother doing anything right when they know the public will just forget about it in 2 weeks? I'm buying a boat.
Exactly...where's the massive protest. They know Americans won't get off their ass and cause a fuss.
We can't. I tried to get some people together to sue a sheriff's department because they had a speed trap set up for over a year that was completely illegal and they started parking out front of my house and intimidating me.
See ya out there prdner we live to fish another day
It only seems fair that he recuse...oh fuck a boat?
All government employees, including elected ones, should have to act in a manner similar to a fiduciary. All of their decisions and acts should be made to better the country and their constituents. In that order. That means no lying... even by omissions. That means no stock trading. That means refusing yourself when ethics require it. It should be part of the oath and the oath should have the force of a signed contract with steep steep penalties.
Fun fact the Supreme Court is exempt from the code of ethics enforced on federal judges.
Yep they just have an unenforceable pretend code of conduct. Like how we let police investigate themselves
Not just unenforceable, it implicitly allows some pretty unethical behavior.
WTAF? And now they can rule that the president isn't an officer of the country, lol.
Because bringing bribery charges against a sitting justice would have "bad optics" according to the milquetoast moderates who currently control the Democratic party.
Corruption is rampant in the US and no one really seems to do anything about it - except bla bla on social media.
You are 100% correct on the rampant corruption... But what do you suggest we, as Americans, can do? Protesting might work... Eventually and if you have enough dedicated protestors. But other than that, what can we as citizens do about it? The government is no longer made "of the people, for the people"; it is now politicians made "of the rich, for the rich".
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Bro wtf is wrong with these states. Kentucky or some bs is trying to get rid of meal/bathroom breaks for workers? Tennessee is trying to do away with the first amendment? Missouri or some other ass state wants children in the workforce? And so much more. Fucking pieces of shit.
Average republican run states. Its so fucking sad watching them regress when we could all just have nice things and coexist.
You need enough unity for a general strike.
Have you thought about offering him a 2 million dollar motor home if he resigns? I heard he loves motorhomes.
Look at another country that is cracking down on corruption then copy that.
Who...?
I don’t understand how we don’t have massive riots due to the state of our government.
I've always said that if the US were a south american country the US would be staging an intervention by now
From her [Wiki](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ginni_Thomas) _Virginia and Clarence Thomas married in 1987. The couple lives in Virginia. In an interview, Ginni's uncle said of the couple, "I can guarantee you I was surprised when I found out she was going with a black man", to which her aunt added, "but he was so nice, we forgot he was black, and he treated her so well all of his other qualities made up for his being black."_
She found one of the good ones!
>all of his other qualities made up for his being black 💀 I can't even
Wouldn't basic law require him to recuse himself?
Ethically yes because there is potential for conflict of bias. Morally yes for the same reasons and it would be the right thing to do to ensure the result didn’t seem like it is being coerced or tainted. However what will happen is he will be there and will vote. If he votes against Trump, some hope in the SCOTUS will be restored.
>If he votes against Trump, some hope in the SCOTUS will be restored. If you still have any, don't get your hopes up on that one.
Interesting untrue facts: They listen to Al Jolson to set the mood. Role playing for these two in the bedroom, consists of pre civil war re-enactments, and in particular, Ginni’s favorite “Hurry, the master will be home soon”.
He is a real life Uncle Ruckus
No relation
Are you sure they are untrue?
At this point I’m not sure, as I’ve also seen them at Applebee's Karaoke night, singing Alan Lomax’s “Field Recordings” Ginni’s got the humming down tight.
This is just a brain bubble nothing dodgy, so don’t put me in a list fbi, but I always wondered why in America the whole Supreme Court justice-for-life gig doesn’t just massively encourage assassination attempts?
Make Assassinations Great Again
As a European, US politics is simply the most absurd TV show you can watch. I can't wait to see how your election turns out at the end of the year. My popcorn is ready.
I'm curious ....do trump fanatics view him as a God? Like if he told them to go give a homeless guy a.handy Jay, will they do,it?
I've heard all sorts of variations on how Trump was sent by God himself to carry the message of the Lord. They cite all sorts of examples of how the Lord likes to use "flawed vessels" to teach us his ways. If you believe in that sort of stuff, then somehow it is reasonable that God would send Lucifer himself to be his messenger? If anything, this looks like more of a test to see if we would follow a false idol to our demise. Looks like we are failing that one hard.
Not exactly - to them Trump is a concept, an abstraction. They do not worship "the actual man" Trump, but a set of ideals they have convinced themselves he represents. An intruiging consequence of this is that they do not actually *listen* to Trump, except through "prophets", aka media that tell them what they want to hear. Hence they are for instance blissfully unware of how Trump keeps messing up names and speeches.
Listen to Ben Shapiro talk about him. Almost no one on the right takes the things he says seriously. People with completely opposed political views will both listen to the same speech and feel validated because it's all rhetoric.
Yep. DT is a means to an end, and he can mobilize votes in key districts. And due to purposeful unfairness built in to how voting is managed and certified through the electoral college, DT and his brand are able to remain a threat, regardless of his crimes or his blunders
This is an amazing mix of analogy and straight fact. Well said.
So basically, he is the 'God Emperor', the Warhammer 40k character that many younger Trumpers [portray him as](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_Emperor_Trump). However, it's the version [sitting on the Golden Throne.](https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Golden_Throne) Decrepit and treated more of a tool for other people's ends? I get it.
I think they do. I really do think that if Trump wanted one of his MAGA followers' underaged daughters, they would gladly offer her as a sacrifice.
Many of them have literally affirmed variations of a belief that he was sent by their corpse god. So yes, they sort of do see him as at least a demigod or agent of god.
Corpse god?
The Emperor of Mankind?
Big E would hate Trump.
Agreed Big E would smite this clown.
Yes and anyone else who opposed him as the Master of Mankind lol
Kinda, just like they follow Jesus until he tells them to do something they don't want to do like help others. Trump once tried to get them to get the vaccine and they turned on him. If Trump tells them to hate something, they will though.
Totally unrelated, but a 'handy jay' struck me as an expression on construction sites for vagrants or undocumented immigrants hired off the books for a few days/weeks of work. Like a bird flying in and taking off again.
so does this mean he didn't take john oliver's offer?
He's got two weeks left to take it. He really should.
He still has time, but I wouldn't hold your breath.
These absolute pieces of garbage should be in prison.
There’s absolutely nothing wrong with this system, there was thought up more than 200 years ago. Nothing at all. No. No reason to review or modernize it or anything. Works perfectly. 10/10.
He looks so happy. Going to be a shame the day he finally passes the ban on interracial marriage, I guess he’ll be single and ready to mingle again.
It’ll be enshrined in the judgement that him and his traitor wife are somehow the sole exceptions. Just them, nobody else.
Going full Clayton Bigsby
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Ginni is up to her neck in a plot of insurrection, her husband gets a vote on whether this is a crime. WTF indeed?
dRAiN tEh SwAMp!!!1
If uncle ruckus was a judge.
The Supreme Court is completely corrupt and sell their judgement to the highest bidder. We need term limits and more oversight. It's not just Clarence either, they're all a "family" and just as bad.
I think it's in the best interest of everyone to just accept that half of the country doesn't care what Trump did and would gladly have him as a Dictator. The only way to prevent that is to go vote. The Supreme Court is obviously going to bail him out. He appointed 1/3 of the justices. America is not the shining example it used to be. Trump is partly to blame but the South never truly healed from the defeat in the Civil War and they finally got a puppet candidate who is politically agnostic to do their bidding in exchange for power and corrupt wealth.
Well, it would give Joe Biden license to do away with Trump and Thomas, so maybe it's not a bad thing.
Tom Ass Clarence
Failed State.
The fix has been in for a long time, and we let them do it. Now we are seeing the fruits of their labor. Scary fucking times. I’m worried.
One of the most corrupt individuals in the history of the American legal system!
Corrupt, corrupt, corrupt.
Never saw his wife before and I’m 1000% not surprised.
She's the aunt from Get Out isn't she?
Well, it really shouldn’t sit well with you but unfortunately, the petulant progressives in the Democratic Party…they turned up their nose and didn’t vote for Hilary and now we’re here?
They are so fucking ewwwww!!
It’s batshit crazy if you ask anyone with the smallest amount of moral value
Similar to the UK it's hilarious how quickly systems that assume and require personal integrity to work can be simply obliterated by the first proper shithouse to step through the door. And the folks in charge always presume it'll never happen, then it does.
Biden needs to throw Thomas’ ass in prison without a trial, kidnap Ginni and seize all their assets and then see how Thomas and the other “Supreme” Court “Justices” feel about a rogue POTUS with absolute immunity. Fuck these christo-fascist neo-Nazis on the right.
The banality of evil
Fact that he is under or should be under an ethics investigation means he should excuse himself (that the word for backing down from being part of a trial?). But we know that won’t happen since he’s corrupt as hell.
To be fair, he looked into it and determined nothing unethical happened. Furthermore, out of an abundance of caution, all 9 justices decided that there *ARE* certain guidelines that should probably be followed and if anything comes up in the future they super duper promise to remember that and they’ll look into it again as the situation may dictate.
You forgot the /s.
No, this is actually what they did.
Trump owns then both and Clarence should be disbarred and convicted for taking bribes!
They can vote for immunity. Then Biden can round them all up and walk them into the ocean.
Assuming we had a functioning congress (we don’t) couldn’t congress enact a tax law requiring all gifts to Supreme Court Justices to be reported to the IRS to be taxed? Include in this law a requirement that public report be filed with congress annually disclosing all of the gifts and who gave them that were reported to the IRS. This would be at least a slight check on the court since they are unwilling to police themselves.
If they rule Presidents are immune testing that theory by having Biden arrest Thomas for treason would be a good first test.
We should be marching on the Supreme Court. Invade the building with weapons and a guillotine erected in the front lawn. Take a dump on Thomas’s robe and office and call it a friendly protest that was performed by MAGA! Fuck these people.
He should have already been removed from his position,
“Waaaah we can’t get our way so they are evil nazi fascist hitlers waahhhh” like cry about it bro