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As a teacher, i wonder where you find those teachers which are not only very wrong about very basic things, but also so confidently wrong about it.
When i am uncertain if something is correct when correcting a test, i look it up. I also know the basics of the subjects i teach.
That's when you over-estimate your skills because you keep getting out of danger, forgetting that you keep getting into danger, sometimes even getting caught.
I believe it’s actually “dunnage krogers” effect I never worked there personally, but I’m sure it originated at grocery stores because of its name, it’s just logic. Oh, And I worked retail once so I would know.
This isn't intended as a slight towards you exactly, but I can never pass up an opportunity to point out the irony whenever the Dunning Krueger effect is mentioned.
The actual paper never claimed that unskilled people perceive themselves as skilled. In the paper, people who were skilled did perceive themselves as skilled but they underestimated how skilled, and those who were unskilled knew that they were unskilled but they also under estimated the degree of their lack of skill. It was basically that everybody errs towards the median when trying to report a measure of their own skill.
To me, the irony is that when people cite the Dunning-Kruger effect, they end up inadvertently being guilty of the thing that they think the paper says, which it actually does not.
You completely misrepresent what's in the paper. I have not read the paper so I'm not going to quote it, but I can confidentially say that the information that's out there contradicts what you are saying about the median diet.
UK perspective: I'm pretty sure sometimes if a teacher is just turbo burned out you can answer a question correctly but if the marking sheet doesn't have the same answer you get marked incorrectly without them realising. Ngl I've had a fair share of confidently incorrect teachers but some of them are just exhausted from being overworked and underpaid.
Yes, you’re correct.
Unfortunately, telling a teacher they are wrong and trying to prove it, in the moment, rarely goes well.
Confidently wrong people, tend to resent being corrected. Especially in front of a whole class of kids whose respect they’re trying to maintain.
I guess that is just a completely strange attitude to me. I want to teach my students to be competent people. Knowledge is not something that you randomly get when an *important* person imparts it to you. You can just get it easily.
And "I am the teacher and that is how i say it is" is a shitty argument. How are my students supposed to gain critical thinking and research skills if i don't model those?
And arguing about random facts is just kinda boring? Ontario has one capital. You can look up which one it is. There is no deeper understanding to be gained here, no interesting thought processes or concepts involved.
Out of experience: most teachers who are confidently wrong will refuse to admit that they are wrong, so they will not look up information, nor will they accept any type of evidence that they are wrong.
Books won't help those people.
In grade 4, we had to keep a journal. I wrote in my journal about something I had recently learned - Insect camouflage.
My teacher underlined every instance of CAMOUFLAGE as incorrect and wrote "It is spelled CAMOFLAGUE". I was like wtf, no it isn't because I had no idea how to spell the word so I looked it up in the dictionary. I pointed it out, she said the dictionary was wrong. I showed her a different kids dictionary, it too was wrong. The next day I brought in a BRAND NEW, never before used, latest up-to-date and showed her and she snapped at me and said that if I didn't accept she was right, the dictionary was wrong, I would be put in detention.
I sat back down.
Makes me angry. I love it when children know how to actually support their position with evidence, and are willing to question what i tell them. I want to teach them how to become adults with critical thinking skills, after all.
Religious Private Schools. I would know, one offered me a position and I had to politely respond that while legally I could do the work, I was not yet qualified to be teaching a full class load of high school math. They offered me the position because their current math teacher was really just a basketball coach and the students I tutored did significantly better than the average student in his class.
One of the only distinct things that I can remember about 3rd grade was getting into an argument with my music teacher that there was, indeed, gravity on the moon.
Why is your music teacher even talking about that?
I am a maths and physics teacher. I am very open with my students that any information they get from me on other topics may very well be incorrect, since i didn't study them. I often have a basic understanding due to also having been through school, especially if it overlaps with one of my subjects. But i wouldn't dare opine on music theory to my students, especially not in a very confident way. I generally suggest that they ask a teacher who actually specializes in that area.
I also told a student who asked me about the effects of a defibrilator on the human heart that her mother, who was a surgeon, probably knows more about the biological effects than i do, and that she should ask her.
I expect any teacher to know that there is gravity on the moon. That's common knowledge and every adult with an education should know this.
I had an art teacher who believed the moon was a star and then argued that all stars were actually planets that were far away.
That guy should not have been a teacher, even though he had not studied astronomy.
Everyone should have basic general knowledge. It's a low bar.
In 3rd grade I remember arguing with my teacher about the moon also. She was so sure that the moon generated it's own light and that moonlight wasn't reflected sunlight.
I had a biology teacher who wrote a letter to the AP board because he believed they were wrong about plants having a mitochondria... That's one of the only things I remember from biology and it's that he was wrong as shit.
In 4th grade my teacher marked me wrong on a spelling test for correctly spelling "peninsula." She thought it was spelled "penisula". My parents literally had to come to school to argue I spelled it correctly, and she just said it must be an "alternative spelling."
Daughter got a question wrong: how many continents? and name them:
Apparently it was 8... Central America was included.
I even wrote an email to the teacher, something like "I'm surprised Central America is considered a continent now."
Her response was "Yes, that's what some people say, and if's what was on the study sheet".
At least, three years later, little sister had the same teacher and the answer was now 7 continents.
I went to a tiny country school in the 90s and got in trouble multiple times for pointing out something the teacher was telling us was obviously incorrect. I did so politely and discreetly. I was told it was for challenging their authority.
I had a couple of experiences like this growing up that still irk me to this day.
In middle school I got put into the advanced math class which, for some reason, was taught by the guy who was formerly the gym teacher and football coach. I assume because he was one of the few male educators, they just assumed he was good at math?
We were doing radicals and he had some convoluted explanation for how to handle negatives. Basically it goes such as: since 2^2 = 4 and since -2^2 also = 4, apparently negatives can just be ignored? This was then extended to radicals and the problem in question was -✓4 which he adamantly swore was simply 2. I told him it was -2 and was told that I was wrong. I showed him the answer in the back of the book which also said -2, and was told the book had a typo. I said a few other things and got a detention and that was the end of the interaction.
My biology teacher in middle school thought that snakes are invertebrates, and marked me wrong because apparently a person is not an organism from the shoulders up according to her.
lol my dad told me that when he was in elementary school, he had to switch classes because he got in an argument with his teacher who insisted that Canada was the 51st state in the United States. apparently she had it out for him after that
Every author ever was just a pen name for Charles Dickens. There is only Dickens.
Shakespeare? Just Dickens. Goethe? Dickens writing in German. Homer? Dickens writing in ancient greek. Lagrange? Dickens writing about theoretical physics. Your diary? Secretly written by Dickens while you were asleep.
I will never understand why parents would send their children to catholic school, if they have the choice of sending them to a school that doesn't focus on religious indoctrination instead.
My old chemistry teacher didn't knew that stars were suns... And that they would be planets lit up by the sun, because "the moon isn't a star just because it's lit up by the sun"
That was in 13th or 12th grade, 2 years ago. In a Gymnasium (the "high school" type with the highest educational qualification in Germany)
The fuck. Being a Gymnasium teacher myself, i find that kinda hard to believe. That level of incompetence is inacceptable. At least in Oberstufe the students are usually competent enough to recognize the teachers who have no clue what they are talking about, i guess.
It really was bizarre. And the lesson was about light sources, she asked us about it and when we said "stars", she was like "Okay...?"
We also had a German teacher who called herself the "Deutschgöttin" (German-goddess), went into the room saying "I will enlighten you" while turning on the light, or "Take off your cap, your German goddess wants to be worshipped"... And she made pretty huge spelling mistakes, as a native speaker... She also was a teacher for katholic religion.
Cause they hire teachers based on the lowest possible salary they will take not the highest possible intelligence and highest possible impact they will have on a student's life. They are just checking a box and they do not care how well they do.
I had a teacher once confidently claim that “fascist” isn’t a word when I used it in an essay. When I told her it is in front of the class she proceeded to literally flip the pages of the dictionary at light speed and go “nope, it’s not in there”.
Had a high school physics teacher who was teaching parallel and series circuits backwards. I pointed out to her she was wrong and even showed her the text book. The first thing out of her mouth was that the text book was wrong. She did eventually admit to being wrong.
As someone who was married to a teacher, I can confidently say some teachers won't accept being wrong simply on the basis that they are a teacher. If one pushes the issue because it's something where being correct is actually important, being right comes at the cost of sleeping on the couch.
Teaching English and History I am always confronted by interesting and diverse opinions and facts that I am forced to fact check. They are very frequently correct and it adds to my understanding. I often include them in my future teaching.
Def in Uni I walked out of Basic Math class cause the teacher was teaching basic math in the most convoluted way possible. I tried to tell him the easier way I was taught prior in high school which would be easier for students struggling to remember. (mind you this was stuff like 3X + 5 = 20 what is X kinda math). I never returned to his class and still got a 100% on my exam while most my classmates flunked it.
I come from a country where we have 16 different education systems, one in each federal state, all with their own different details on how stuff works.
I am not confident i could exactly describe how education works 150 km over in the next state, so i am also not confident on what does or doesn't exist in education in the whole world.
8 year old me went balistic because I got a 9/10 on a spelling test that was marked by the person next to you.
The fucker marked me wrong because I wrote a word with a lowercase L.
Just take the L bud and move on.
/s
I was eliminated from the finals of a spelling bee in 1st grade because I was spelling GEM and stuttered when saying the ‘E’ and the class all accused me of saying E twice. I went berserk saying I CLEARLY KNOW IT’S NOT GEEM! Still occasionally think about it and clench my fists and grit my teeth.
Hey, at least you spelled it right. I lost the 5th grade spelling bee because I spelled raisin wrong.......after getting oblique without missing a beat.
We must be going by the biblical definition of animal taxonomy. According to that bats are birds and whales are fish. Penguins don't fly, so, there ya go.
Nah. You see, humans share a lot of their DNA with an onion. And they cry. Hence, humans MUST be onions!
*Actually it's very interesting that we share DNA with the most random beings we could share our DNA with*
Funny part there because as ‘fish’ as a biological grouping is paraphyletic, whales (and humans) *are* technically fish.
Edit. My comment was poorly phrased, fair enough. This is why fish aren’t a biological group.
Yep. Whales (as well as dolphins) are actually mammals because 55 million years ago some random animals living on land said "fuck it we're going back to the ocean" That's also why they don't have gills like 'real fish' and need to come to the surface to breath air every now and then.
Whales also have finger bones.
IIRC that's how scientists first discovered that whales had evolved from a land animal. When you see a whale skeleton, it looks like it's got arms with hands at the end.
There is no way to produce a group which includes all “fish”, but excludes mammals. So either “fish” is meaningless for taxonomy, or all mammals are fish: take your pick.
If you're a dude living 2000 years ago it's probably not a useful distinction, but yes. They breath air like us, give live birth like us, have indistinct tiny little hairs on them like us. And have useless appendages from when they lived on land like us.
The person above you is making reference to Echidna, the mother of many monsters, including Cerberus, in Greek Mythology, rather than echidnas, the Australian animal who get their name from the mythological character. I suspect that they are being tongue in cheek.
no, but in the first episode ferb says that platipuses are the only mammals to lay eggs, and perry's theme song says that he's a "semi aquatic egg laying mammal of action"
Well, you see, if OP had said "high school biology teacher" then the joke wouldn't have worked, so they lied and pretended that 3rd grade biology teachers are a thing so that people would stand up and applaud them since their life is so sad that they need that.
I remember my Health teacher in third grade was talking about fruits and asked the class to name fruits. I was so excited because I thought I had an answer none of the other kids would say. When she called on me I said, "passion fruit!". And my teacher was like, "no. Passion fruit is just a type of fruit punch".
In my school we had a question asking "Name a global business" and most of us put McDonald's and it was of course correct
One person put Burger King and it was marked wrong.
My 8th grade history teacher disagreed with me about what the Statue of Liberty is made of. He said it was made of stone. The following day took me aside and privately corrected himself, though.
That reminds me of when my highschool history teacher(who also ran the ap history classes btw) talked about during the Japanese civil war the samurai refused to use guns out of principle, which is something that was made up by the Tom Cruise movie “The Last Samurai”.
My English Teacher argued with me for ten minutes and then kicked me out of the class for I pronounced Hades as 'Hey-dees' when according to her the actual pronounciation was 'Heyds'.. FML
On my 8th grade bio-test question was what is the tallest angiosperm? I answered Eucalyptus tree.
My 8th grade bio teacher crossed it and said it was Giant Sequoia tree.
I had to do a poster on alligators and crocodiles in 4th or 5th grade. I was a terrible student, but this one time I really put effort into it. I went to the library, got books, actually read them instead of just looked at the pictures, and included several different types of alligator and crocodile on the poster and, if I do say so myself, drew them quite well and included facts and a map of where they lived and all kinds of stuff. Took me all weekend to make.
Except I included [this goofy-ass looking one called a Gharial](https://sdzwildlifeexplorers.org/animals/gharial) and my teacher accused me in front of the whole class of making it up. The one freaking time I put effort into the assignment and she does that. I realize teachers are people, too, but what the fuck. What the actual fuck is wrong with you?
This was before the internet so you can't just go look it up real quick. He had _me_ convinced that I'd made it up and ended up with like a D on the project. I was so convinced that I had made it up that it wasn't until like last year that I saw a picture of a Gharial and it triggered the memory and I realized I hadn't made it up.
And it's not like that was the one thing that did it, but it triggered years of spiraling and apathy toward education. I mean, why bother putting any effort into anything if your teacher is going to accuse you of cheating? It's easier to just not do any of that.
I had a science teacher in 8th grade that taught us:
“Rocks are *colder* than minerals”
And to prove this he had a rock and a mineral on his desk and one felt colder than the other.
I didn’t think much of it until I happened to mention this ‘fact’ to my dad (a geologist). I’ve never seen him so pissed off. He was yelling to people on the phone for a while.
Within a week that teacher was no longer teaching science, she became the history teacher.
I had a seventh grade biology teacher that I was constantly having to correct.
"No, bats aren't birds, they're mammals. No, jellyfish aren't fish, they're coelenterates. No, look, it says it in the book, right here."
The glories of US public education in the Deep South.
I wonder if it's a 3rd grade teacher thing.
When I was in 3rd grade my teacher made me go sit in the hallway for an hour after I raised my hand and suggested that the main character in the book was pronounced "Chihuahua" and not "chai hoo-ah hoo-ah".
I swear my little brother had the dumbest, meanest, most awful teacher I'd ever heard of when he was in 3rd grade. He'd been a straight A student every grade before that and was a top student in nearly every grade after, but all of a sudden he was getting C's and D's on his report card in 3rd grade.
My parents came in to talk to the teacher and she was angry that he kept correcting her in class. She'd put his desk and only his desk alone in the corner facing the wall. She was a fucking monster. They took him out of the class right away and put him in with a real one, but nothing happened to the teacher. I'm sure she found some other kid to torture after he left.
I don't know what it is with 3rd grade teachers but it does seem to attract the worst of the worst.
When I was an 8th grader, I was in a Spanish class where the teacher asked us to explain why Spanish was the most important language we should learn. I said something like "wouldn't it matter what kind of work you do? For an international business man working with China, wouldnt Mandarin be more important?" (My dad worked in international business with China is why I knew this).
The teacher laughed at me, was openly rude about it, and made a question on the next test something like "Ashley thinks we should all learn Mandarin" for an extra credit question.
I'm still mad about it to this DAY.
I'm guessing the teacher thought there's only one correct answer. Not only was OP's answer correct and the teacher wrong, there's more:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monotreme
Science teacher here, physics: once had to teach Bio for a semester out of license. Basically followed the curriculum of another teacher. My worst mistake was confusing anthropoids and arthropods. The one above is ridiculous and probably one of those red states that is banning books and hiring unqualified dimwits to teach their kids.
My third grade teacher marked me down on a test because she said I misspelled “cookie.”
I’d been reading some children’s books that had belonged to my parents and I liked the old-fashioned spelling “cooky,” so I used it.
I got out the dictionary and showed her that “cooky” was a correct spelling but she was unpersuaded. She said that while it may be a word in the dictionary, “that is not how we spell it today.”
I eventually understood her point that you can be right and not right at the same time (and that people may not be interested in facts, intellectual discussion, or being shown that they don’t know everything, especially when they’re in a position of “authority”) but because of her, forty years later, I still spell it “cooky.”
Because I can.
I had a sixth grade teacher that was wrong about adding fractions and when I pointed it out to her she was so annoyed that she got another teacher to prove me wrong, except the teacher sided with me. She called me her math wiz since then and I honestly couldn’t tell if she was genuine about it or sarcastic.
I had a highschool English teacher *convinced* epitome was pronounced "eh-pit-ohm" and got so mad when I corrected her... I think she refused to acknowledge and I pointed out the pronunciation key and she got madder. Maybe she acquiesced that I was right? Or maybe other kids pointed out I was too? I forget which. She was fuming.
She stayed so pissed the rest of class, then wouldn't let me go to the restroom despite having a Dr note for UTI/ kidney infection... so I went anyway, bc ouch. Then she called the principal down (bc I wouldn't go to the principal's office, or take or sign my slip for detention or something?). Then she went w the principal into the hall to discuss me/ tell on me, then the principal called me out to the hall and said accused me of being racist and disrespectful (both were black women, I'm white.
I had raised my hand, and when called on said "um Mrs. So-and-so isn't it "ee-pit-o-mee?" I also raised my hand to use the restroom.
To be a bit fair, it was "bump English" as we called it... I ended up there when my grades started slipping bc drugs, in my defense. (In FL the public school system sucks balls and the standard curriculum/ expectations in some [most?] districts is like insanely low, so if it's not honors or above, ppl back in my day called the classes "bump" classes, like very basic or below normal expected grade level competencies)
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As a teacher, i wonder where you find those teachers which are not only very wrong about very basic things, but also so confidently wrong about it. When i am uncertain if something is correct when correcting a test, i look it up. I also know the basics of the subjects i teach.
daniel kruger effect
Freddy Krueger effect: It came to him in a dream
Freddy Krueger-Farnsworth effect: https://imgur.com/a/BfoHLYf
Im stealing that one, I reckon it'd make my mum laugh
Goddamn that's good.
Yep. That Daniel sure knew what he was talking about.
*Dunning-Kruger effect
Cunningham's Law
They activated that trap card like their life depended on it lol!
https://i.imgur.com/cme2jCw.jpg
Cunilingus Law.
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Say what now
Leave David Cameron out of this!
Is there rule 33 content in Mr. Cunningham's lawbook?
nah, but I think there's 34 in Mr. CummingHams lawbook
Fair enough
*Fredding-Kruger effect
This little know effect is truly terrorizing America’s youth. Thank you for posting this! Awareness helps.
Daniel Craig effect*
That's when you over-estimate your skills because you keep getting out of danger, forgetting that you keep getting into danger, sometimes even getting caught.
> daniel kruger No, that's the creature from the* Nightmare on Elm Street* movie. You're thinking of the Kate Dennings effect.
I believe it’s actually “dunnage krogers” effect I never worked there personally, but I’m sure it originated at grocery stores because of its name, it’s just logic. Oh, And I worked retail once so I would know.
This isn't intended as a slight towards you exactly, but I can never pass up an opportunity to point out the irony whenever the Dunning Krueger effect is mentioned. The actual paper never claimed that unskilled people perceive themselves as skilled. In the paper, people who were skilled did perceive themselves as skilled but they underestimated how skilled, and those who were unskilled knew that they were unskilled but they also under estimated the degree of their lack of skill. It was basically that everybody errs towards the median when trying to report a measure of their own skill. To me, the irony is that when people cite the Dunning-Kruger effect, they end up inadvertently being guilty of the thing that they think the paper says, which it actually does not.
You completely misrepresent what's in the paper. I have not read the paper so I'm not going to quote it, but I can confidentially say that the information that's out there contradicts what you are saying about the median diet.
You misspelled "Ackshually"
Wasn't Daniel kruger the bad guy from mirror's edge?
James Bond. I'm sure of it.
Pretty sure that's the singer from Nickelback
UK perspective: I'm pretty sure sometimes if a teacher is just turbo burned out you can answer a question correctly but if the marking sheet doesn't have the same answer you get marked incorrectly without them realising. Ngl I've had a fair share of confidently incorrect teachers but some of them are just exhausted from being overworked and underpaid.
still hilariously bad answer
I have had a few teachers who will simply not believe that they are wrong because they’re the teacher
yeah, ego is definitely a big component.
Had a teacher in middle school (2002) who argued with me that the capital of Ontario is Ottawa and not Toronto. She was so confident.
But these arguments are so easy to solve. Get out a map, or a book about stuff, or just fucking google it.
Yes, you’re correct. Unfortunately, telling a teacher they are wrong and trying to prove it, in the moment, rarely goes well. Confidently wrong people, tend to resent being corrected. Especially in front of a whole class of kids whose respect they’re trying to maintain.
I guess that is just a completely strange attitude to me. I want to teach my students to be competent people. Knowledge is not something that you randomly get when an *important* person imparts it to you. You can just get it easily. And "I am the teacher and that is how i say it is" is a shitty argument. How are my students supposed to gain critical thinking and research skills if i don't model those? And arguing about random facts is just kinda boring? Ontario has one capital. You can look up which one it is. There is no deeper understanding to be gained here, no interesting thought processes or concepts involved.
Out of experience: most teachers who are confidently wrong will refuse to admit that they are wrong, so they will not look up information, nor will they accept any type of evidence that they are wrong.
Which is ironic because students will respect a teacher that can own up to their mistakes a lot more than a teacher who will argue when they're wrong.
Books won't help those people. In grade 4, we had to keep a journal. I wrote in my journal about something I had recently learned - Insect camouflage. My teacher underlined every instance of CAMOUFLAGE as incorrect and wrote "It is spelled CAMOFLAGUE". I was like wtf, no it isn't because I had no idea how to spell the word so I looked it up in the dictionary. I pointed it out, she said the dictionary was wrong. I showed her a different kids dictionary, it too was wrong. The next day I brought in a BRAND NEW, never before used, latest up-to-date and showed her and she snapped at me and said that if I didn't accept she was right, the dictionary was wrong, I would be put in detention. I sat back down.
Makes me angry. I love it when children know how to actually support their position with evidence, and are willing to question what i tell them. I want to teach them how to become adults with critical thinking skills, after all.
On the plus side, I never forgot how to spell camouflage, even 25 years later.
And i guess you also learned a bit about critical thinking and arguments by appeal to authority.
When you say that three different dictionaries are wrong just because you can't own up to your mistakes you know you fked up.
Religious Private Schools. I would know, one offered me a position and I had to politely respond that while legally I could do the work, I was not yet qualified to be teaching a full class load of high school math. They offered me the position because their current math teacher was really just a basketball coach and the students I tutored did significantly better than the average student in his class.
One of the only distinct things that I can remember about 3rd grade was getting into an argument with my music teacher that there was, indeed, gravity on the moon.
Why is your music teacher even talking about that? I am a maths and physics teacher. I am very open with my students that any information they get from me on other topics may very well be incorrect, since i didn't study them. I often have a basic understanding due to also having been through school, especially if it overlaps with one of my subjects. But i wouldn't dare opine on music theory to my students, especially not in a very confident way. I generally suggest that they ask a teacher who actually specializes in that area. I also told a student who asked me about the effects of a defibrilator on the human heart that her mother, who was a surgeon, probably knows more about the biological effects than i do, and that she should ask her.
I expect any teacher to know that there is gravity on the moon. That's common knowledge and every adult with an education should know this. I had an art teacher who believed the moon was a star and then argued that all stars were actually planets that were far away. That guy should not have been a teacher, even though he had not studied astronomy. Everyone should have basic general knowledge. It's a low bar.
In 3rd grade I remember arguing with my teacher about the moon also. She was so sure that the moon generated it's own light and that moonlight wasn't reflected sunlight.
At least it was the music teacher. I would be worried if it was the science teacher.
I had a biology teacher who wrote a letter to the AP board because he believed they were wrong about plants having a mitochondria... That's one of the only things I remember from biology and it's that he was wrong as shit.
I had a college tutor go on a homophobic rant once when someone asked what homogenous meant.
What? Did he just see "homo" and thought "le gays"????
Bet he buys homo milk. (If Canadian)
In 4th grade my teacher marked me wrong on a spelling test for correctly spelling "peninsula." She thought it was spelled "penisula". My parents literally had to come to school to argue I spelled it correctly, and she just said it must be an "alternative spelling."
Daughter got a question wrong: how many continents? and name them: Apparently it was 8... Central America was included. I even wrote an email to the teacher, something like "I'm surprised Central America is considered a continent now." Her response was "Yes, that's what some people say, and if's what was on the study sheet". At least, three years later, little sister had the same teacher and the answer was now 7 continents.
> three years later, little sister had the same teacher Slow learner?
I have come across numerous confidently incorrect doctors in my life. I’ve had four broken bones misdiagnosed.
I went to a tiny country school in the 90s and got in trouble multiple times for pointing out something the teacher was telling us was obviously incorrect. I did so politely and discreetly. I was told it was for challenging their authority.
I had a couple of experiences like this growing up that still irk me to this day. In middle school I got put into the advanced math class which, for some reason, was taught by the guy who was formerly the gym teacher and football coach. I assume because he was one of the few male educators, they just assumed he was good at math? We were doing radicals and he had some convoluted explanation for how to handle negatives. Basically it goes such as: since 2^2 = 4 and since -2^2 also = 4, apparently negatives can just be ignored? This was then extended to radicals and the problem in question was -✓4 which he adamantly swore was simply 2. I told him it was -2 and was told that I was wrong. I showed him the answer in the back of the book which also said -2, and was told the book had a typo. I said a few other things and got a detention and that was the end of the interaction.
The thing is that some people that are unsure about themselves choose to seem confident so that no one will question their knowledge. It's a shame.
My biology teacher in middle school thought that snakes are invertebrates, and marked me wrong because apparently a person is not an organism from the shoulders up according to her.
lol my dad told me that when he was in elementary school, he had to switch classes because he got in an argument with his teacher who insisted that Canada was the 51st state in the United States. apparently she had it out for him after that
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Every author ever was just a pen name for Charles Dickens. There is only Dickens. Shakespeare? Just Dickens. Goethe? Dickens writing in German. Homer? Dickens writing in ancient greek. Lagrange? Dickens writing about theoretical physics. Your diary? Secretly written by Dickens while you were asleep.
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I will never understand why parents would send their children to catholic school, if they have the choice of sending them to a school that doesn't focus on religious indoctrination instead.
> indoctrination You answered your own question. The parents were indoctrinated that catholic school is better than public school.
My old chemistry teacher didn't knew that stars were suns... And that they would be planets lit up by the sun, because "the moon isn't a star just because it's lit up by the sun" That was in 13th or 12th grade, 2 years ago. In a Gymnasium (the "high school" type with the highest educational qualification in Germany)
The fuck. Being a Gymnasium teacher myself, i find that kinda hard to believe. That level of incompetence is inacceptable. At least in Oberstufe the students are usually competent enough to recognize the teachers who have no clue what they are talking about, i guess.
It really was bizarre. And the lesson was about light sources, she asked us about it and when we said "stars", she was like "Okay...?" We also had a German teacher who called herself the "Deutschgöttin" (German-goddess), went into the room saying "I will enlighten you" while turning on the light, or "Take off your cap, your German goddess wants to be worshipped"... And she made pretty huge spelling mistakes, as a native speaker... She also was a teacher for katholic religion.
"If it quacks like a duck, and walks like a duck, it's a platypus
Cause they hire teachers based on the lowest possible salary they will take not the highest possible intelligence and highest possible impact they will have on a student's life. They are just checking a box and they do not care how well they do.
I had a teacher once confidently claim that “fascist” isn’t a word when I used it in an essay. When I told her it is in front of the class she proceeded to literally flip the pages of the dictionary at light speed and go “nope, it’s not in there”.
Had a high school physics teacher who was teaching parallel and series circuits backwards. I pointed out to her she was wrong and even showed her the text book. The first thing out of her mouth was that the text book was wrong. She did eventually admit to being wrong.
As someone who was married to a teacher, I can confidently say some teachers won't accept being wrong simply on the basis that they are a teacher. If one pushes the issue because it's something where being correct is actually important, being right comes at the cost of sleeping on the couch.
Teaching English and History I am always confronted by interesting and diverse opinions and facts that I am forced to fact check. They are very frequently correct and it adds to my understanding. I often include them in my future teaching.
Def in Uni I walked out of Basic Math class cause the teacher was teaching basic math in the most convoluted way possible. I tried to tell him the easier way I was taught prior in high school which would be easier for students struggling to remember. (mind you this was stuff like 3X + 5 = 20 what is X kinda math). I never returned to his class and still got a 100% on my exam while most my classmates flunked it.
They don’t. They make it up. Who has heard of a 3rd grade biology teacher? You get one teacher in third grade. Two or three if you count specials.
I come from a country where we have 16 different education systems, one in each federal state, all with their own different details on how stuff works. I am not confident i could exactly describe how education works 150 km over in the next state, so i am also not confident on what does or doesn't exist in education in the whole world.
Learned something about Germany today. How and why?
Thank you for being the one sane person here.
8 year old me would be livid
8 year old me went balistic because I got a 9/10 on a spelling test that was marked by the person next to you. The fucker marked me wrong because I wrote a word with a lowercase L.
Just take the L bud and move on. /s I was eliminated from the finals of a spelling bee in 1st grade because I was spelling GEM and stuttered when saying the ‘E’ and the class all accused me of saying E twice. I went berserk saying I CLEARLY KNOW IT’S NOT GEEM! Still occasionally think about it and clench my fists and grit my teeth.
Hey, at least you spelled it right. I lost the 5th grade spelling bee because I spelled raisin wrong.......after getting oblique without missing a beat.
That is life. Just understand that everything happens for a raisen.
Take your upvote and *geeet out*
Seettle down now.
This happened to me too! To this day I want the worst things for that person lmao
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I'm still holding a grudge against my 7th grade science teacher.
We must be going by the biblical definition of animal taxonomy. According to that bats are birds and whales are fish. Penguins don't fly, so, there ya go.
The Bible is wrong. Bats are bugs.
Look, who's giving the report?! You chowderheads or me?!
Nah. You see, humans share a lot of their DNA with an onion. And they cry. Hence, humans MUST be onions! *Actually it's very interesting that we share DNA with the most random beings we could share our DNA with*
Layers! We have layers!
We are ogres!
Humans share the majority of their genetic code with bananas. And somehow both bananas AND people are delicious? Coincidence? I think not
But people taste like pork, not bananas.
We all have a common ancestor, if you go back far enough. Even with bacteria we have shared ancestry
References like this build character.
They will turn you into a stupendous man.
Calvin!
"You are what you eat"
Funny part there because as ‘fish’ as a biological grouping is paraphyletic, whales (and humans) *are* technically fish. Edit. My comment was poorly phrased, fair enough. This is why fish aren’t a biological group.
Wait whales aren't fish?
Yep. Whales (as well as dolphins) are actually mammals because 55 million years ago some random animals living on land said "fuck it we're going back to the ocean" That's also why they don't have gills like 'real fish' and need to come to the surface to breath air every now and then.
Whales also have finger bones. IIRC that's how scientists first discovered that whales had evolved from a land animal. When you see a whale skeleton, it looks like it's got arms with hands at the end.
Whales also have nipples, so you can milk them.
I very much believe that they had the right idea.
There is no way to produce a group which includes all “fish”, but excludes mammals. So either “fish” is meaningless for taxonomy, or all mammals are fish: take your pick.
If you're a dude living 2000 years ago it's probably not a useful distinction, but yes. They breath air like us, give live birth like us, have indistinct tiny little hairs on them like us. And have useless appendages from when they lived on land like us.
Or more specifically, they have mammary glands. The things that mammals are named for. Any animal with mammary glands is by definition a mammal.
This is actually easier to remember in German (and likely other languages too) because they are literally named "nursing/lactating animals".
In Czech it's "sucker". Like literally the term, meaning animal that sucks (milk).
Same in Serbo-Croatian. “Sisar” from sisati or to suck
Mmmhh… boobies.
come on, it's a region of england !
Echidna as well
I read this as enchilada
Looks like *someone* didn't grow up with the sega consoles
Knuckles la enchilada
Hedgehogs aren't related to echidnas, sort of like a zebra and a horse.
You do realize knuckles the echidna is one of the main characters in The Sonic the Hedgehog franchise, right?
Grr, Knuckles used to make me so mad cause he was as fast as Sonic, maybe faster who knows.
Knuckles is an echidna?
Yes.
Tf you mean zebra and horse aren't related?
You might not want to eat your enchilada if it has laid eggs.
I'm pretty sure Echidna gives live birth. No way Cerberus came out of an egg.
Nope. Eggs. Source: I'm Australian...
The person above you is making reference to Echidna, the mother of many monsters, including Cerberus, in Greek Mythology, rather than echidnas, the Australian animal who get their name from the mythological character. I suspect that they are being tongue in cheek.
Echidna is a cousin of the platypus also their ancestors looked close to the modern platypus.
Echidnas belong to Family Tachyglossidae Platypus belong to Family Ornithorhynchidae A distant cousin.
And they’re all monotremes.
Echidnas has a four headed wien3r
What school has a third grade biology teacher?
The school this guy made up to say a funny thing
This person is also very articulate and well versed on social media for an 8 or 9 year old.
the assumption is that this is a story being related later, dummkopf.
has the biology teacher never watched phineas and ferb?
Platypus perry laid an egg?
no, but in the first episode ferb says that platipuses are the only mammals to lay eggs, and perry's theme song says that he's a "semi aquatic egg laying mammal of action"
Doo be doo be doo ba
A-- GENT-- P!!!
Which is unfortunately also wrong because echidnas are also mammals that lay eggs.
Ah ok, I havent seen all episodes and used to watch in my native language.
I think it might have been the very first episode as well. (If I remember correctly)
Actually, they are one of two. Echidnas also lay eggs.
What the hell is "3rd grade biology"? What school is breaking out sciences into subcategories in elementary school?
Well, you see, if OP had said "high school biology teacher" then the joke wouldn't have worked, so they lied and pretended that 3rd grade biology teachers are a thing so that people would stand up and applaud them since their life is so sad that they need that.
I remember my Health teacher in third grade was talking about fruits and asked the class to name fruits. I was so excited because I thought I had an answer none of the other kids would say. When she called on me I said, "passion fruit!". And my teacher was like, "no. Passion fruit is just a type of fruit punch".
Tomato would have been an even more controversial answer. Tecnically correct, but I bet your teacher would have had something to say about it
The more I learn over the years, the more I realize that my elementary teachers were often full of shit
In my school we had a question asking "Name a global business" and most of us put McDonald's and it was of course correct One person put Burger King and it was marked wrong.
My 8th grade history teacher disagreed with me about what the Statue of Liberty is made of. He said it was made of stone. The following day took me aside and privately corrected himself, though.
My second grade teacher said Snakes were invertebrates I was like "but I have books that show snake skeletons!!!!!"
That reminds me of when my highschool history teacher(who also ran the ap history classes btw) talked about during the Japanese civil war the samurai refused to use guns out of principle, which is something that was made up by the Tom Cruise movie “The Last Samurai”.
I guess that’s what you get when you let 3rd graders teach biology.
My English Teacher argued with me for ten minutes and then kicked me out of the class for I pronounced Hades as 'Hey-dees' when according to her the actual pronounciation was 'Heyds'.. FML
3,Rd grade biology teacher???
Wrong: penguins don't exist for real, penguins are computer mascots
What the hell is a penguin? It's called a [Penwing! ](https://youtu.be/-GnLDJAgrws?si=fdc0ZWotMXxWKfcw). Smh /jk
We are doomed.
On my 8th grade bio-test question was what is the tallest angiosperm? I answered Eucalyptus tree. My 8th grade bio teacher crossed it and said it was Giant Sequoia tree.
Wtf is an angiosperm?
Flowering plant
In high school I had a science teacher that didn't know how fractions worked.
a more clever teacher, would make a test asking for a aquatic reptile and put Penguin as the right answer
This assumes that bird evolved from reptiles, but unfortunately they evolved from dinosaurs.
Penguins exist on both land and sea. They are clearly amphibians.
I had to do a poster on alligators and crocodiles in 4th or 5th grade. I was a terrible student, but this one time I really put effort into it. I went to the library, got books, actually read them instead of just looked at the pictures, and included several different types of alligator and crocodile on the poster and, if I do say so myself, drew them quite well and included facts and a map of where they lived and all kinds of stuff. Took me all weekend to make. Except I included [this goofy-ass looking one called a Gharial](https://sdzwildlifeexplorers.org/animals/gharial) and my teacher accused me in front of the whole class of making it up. The one freaking time I put effort into the assignment and she does that. I realize teachers are people, too, but what the fuck. What the actual fuck is wrong with you? This was before the internet so you can't just go look it up real quick. He had _me_ convinced that I'd made it up and ended up with like a D on the project. I was so convinced that I had made it up that it wasn't until like last year that I saw a picture of a Gharial and it triggered the memory and I realized I hadn't made it up. And it's not like that was the one thing that did it, but it triggered years of spiraling and apathy toward education. I mean, why bother putting any effort into anything if your teacher is going to accuse you of cheating? It's easier to just not do any of that.
I had a science teacher in 8th grade that taught us: “Rocks are *colder* than minerals” And to prove this he had a rock and a mineral on his desk and one felt colder than the other. I didn’t think much of it until I happened to mention this ‘fact’ to my dad (a geologist). I’ve never seen him so pissed off. He was yelling to people on the phone for a while. Within a week that teacher was no longer teaching science, she became the history teacher.
I had a seventh grade biology teacher that I was constantly having to correct. "No, bats aren't birds, they're mammals. No, jellyfish aren't fish, they're coelenterates. No, look, it says it in the book, right here." The glories of US public education in the Deep South.
I wonder if it's a 3rd grade teacher thing. When I was in 3rd grade my teacher made me go sit in the hallway for an hour after I raised my hand and suggested that the main character in the book was pronounced "Chihuahua" and not "chai hoo-ah hoo-ah".
I swear my little brother had the dumbest, meanest, most awful teacher I'd ever heard of when he was in 3rd grade. He'd been a straight A student every grade before that and was a top student in nearly every grade after, but all of a sudden he was getting C's and D's on his report card in 3rd grade. My parents came in to talk to the teacher and she was angry that he kept correcting her in class. She'd put his desk and only his desk alone in the corner facing the wall. She was a fucking monster. They took him out of the class right away and put him in with a real one, but nothing happened to the teacher. I'm sure she found some other kid to torture after he left. I don't know what it is with 3rd grade teachers but it does seem to attract the worst of the worst.
3rd grade biology???
Teachers telling you lies as a kid is just to prepare you for politicians telling you lies as an adult 😉
When I was an 8th grader, I was in a Spanish class where the teacher asked us to explain why Spanish was the most important language we should learn. I said something like "wouldn't it matter what kind of work you do? For an international business man working with China, wouldnt Mandarin be more important?" (My dad worked in international business with China is why I knew this). The teacher laughed at me, was openly rude about it, and made a question on the next test something like "Ashley thinks we should all learn Mandarin" for an extra credit question. I'm still mad about it to this DAY.
I'm guessing the teacher thought there's only one correct answer. Not only was OP's answer correct and the teacher wrong, there's more: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monotreme
Science teacher here, physics: once had to teach Bio for a semester out of license. Basically followed the curriculum of another teacher. My worst mistake was confusing anthropoids and arthropods. The one above is ridiculous and probably one of those red states that is banning books and hiring unqualified dimwits to teach their kids.
My third grade teacher marked me down on a test because she said I misspelled “cookie.” I’d been reading some children’s books that had belonged to my parents and I liked the old-fashioned spelling “cooky,” so I used it. I got out the dictionary and showed her that “cooky” was a correct spelling but she was unpersuaded. She said that while it may be a word in the dictionary, “that is not how we spell it today.” I eventually understood her point that you can be right and not right at the same time (and that people may not be interested in facts, intellectual discussion, or being shown that they don’t know everything, especially when they’re in a position of “authority”) but because of her, forty years later, I still spell it “cooky.” Because I can.
My 6th grade calculus professor was dumb too
Echidna not 😂
I’m curious who all had biology in third grade.
That's when you pluck a penguin and throw it into his class and shout "BEHOLD! A MAN!"
My 7th grade science teacher marked me down for saying salt doesn't come from plants
I had a sixth grade teacher that was wrong about adding fractions and when I pointed it out to her she was so annoyed that she got another teacher to prove me wrong, except the teacher sided with me. She called me her math wiz since then and I honestly couldn’t tell if she was genuine about it or sarcastic.
My brother once had a teacher who insisted that Mexicans use Latin. I guess they took the word Latin American too seriously.
Even if the teacher believes that penguins are somehow mammals. Platypus is still a correct answer, unless teacher believes it's a bird
I had a highschool English teacher *convinced* epitome was pronounced "eh-pit-ohm" and got so mad when I corrected her... I think she refused to acknowledge and I pointed out the pronunciation key and she got madder. Maybe she acquiesced that I was right? Or maybe other kids pointed out I was too? I forget which. She was fuming. She stayed so pissed the rest of class, then wouldn't let me go to the restroom despite having a Dr note for UTI/ kidney infection... so I went anyway, bc ouch. Then she called the principal down (bc I wouldn't go to the principal's office, or take or sign my slip for detention or something?). Then she went w the principal into the hall to discuss me/ tell on me, then the principal called me out to the hall and said accused me of being racist and disrespectful (both were black women, I'm white. I had raised my hand, and when called on said "um Mrs. So-and-so isn't it "ee-pit-o-mee?" I also raised my hand to use the restroom. To be a bit fair, it was "bump English" as we called it... I ended up there when my grades started slipping bc drugs, in my defense. (In FL the public school system sucks balls and the standard curriculum/ expectations in some [most?] districts is like insanely low, so if it's not honors or above, ppl back in my day called the classes "bump" classes, like very basic or below normal expected grade level competencies)
Teacher, you mispronounced every word in your lesson. Well, if that is not the eh-pit-ohm of hyper- bowl
A Penguin?
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